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LA Lakers Thread: Welcome Brandon Ingram! (1 Viewer)

JMon348 said:
Pray for a top 2 pick and a good offseason.
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It all starts with getting rid of Byron. This needs to happen now. Already losing hope in this offseason, as keeping Byron not only means more of the worst coaching in league history and failure to develop the young players, but also that none of the free agents we want are going to come to the Lakers.

 
Shrugs said:
It all starts with getting rid of Byron. This needs to happen now. Already losing hope in this offseason, as keeping Byron not only means more of the worst coaching in league history and failure to develop the young players, but also that none of the free agents we want are going to come to the Lakers.
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Thankfully they've started down the correct path.  I'm a big fan of getting Luke as the replacement.  Polar opposite in terms of approach with young guys.

 
Heard on the radio last night that Kupchak said that if they keep their 1st rounder this year, they're considering trading it away. No mention of what for.

 
rodg12 said:
Thankfully they've started down the correct path.  I'm a big fan of getting Luke as the replacement.  Polar opposite in terms of approach with young guys.
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Yes, I am full of optimism now. Luke was the guy I hoped they'd get. There's some risk there. We don't know how he will do building his own team. But the retread route wasn't working. Everyone knew the last three coaches weren't going to work as soon as they were hired. Luke has the coaching pedigree and players like him. Everybody likes him. The Lakers wanted him and he wanted them. It's nice to get your top choice for once and make a decisive hire, rather than wait 3 months and take what you can get. If everything goes well, he has the potential to be Lakers coach for the next two decades. Now it's all about keeping that pick in less than two weeks, preferably in the top 2.

 
Short Corner said:
Paul George seems to be the flavor of the week.
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The report I heard was from Jeff Biggs on 710 during the Max and Idiot show. Max went on to talk about dealing the pick for Demarcus Cousins in and effort to entice Durant or something like that. It all seems pretty far fetched to me. I think they'd be better off trading it for another 1st rounder in a future season plus whatever else they could get.

 
It's happening! Get a promising coach. Check. Get a top-two pick. Check. Now let's see what we can do with $60 mil in cap space.

 
The next year would have been awful had we gotten the bad end.  Now we are staring at two players that could each go #1.

Please just no DDR or Horford.  A waste of cap-space.  Whiteside is worth the gamble.

Russell, Clarkson, Ingram, Randle and Whiteside would be my best case.  Cap space going forward.  

 
Daywalker said:
Russell, Clarkson, Ingram, Randle and Whiteside would be my best case.  Cap space going forward.  
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Luke, Ingram and Whiteside would be a great offseason, and they are perhaps two-thirds of the way there. I'd be happy locking that up and then adding Westbrook next year.

 
The more I hear the more it sounds like Ingram is the guy I'd like them to draft.

Dan Patrick was saying the Lakers are looking to deal Russell - anyone else hearing that?

 
Gr00vus said:
The more I hear the more it sounds like Ingram is the guy I'd like them to draft.

Dan Patrick was saying the Lakers are looking to deal Russell - anyone else hearing that?
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I heard that...I just don't see it happening. Apparently they just want another top 7 pick for him? Don't see why you give up on him already for another unknown later in the draft?

 
Gr00vus said:
Character/judgement/stupidity issues.
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:shrug:  Those don't seem like issues that can't be fixed. He's only 20.

Now, if they really think his talent isn't good enough to be a core player, then they should all seriously just go quit right now.  You don't take a guy #2 overall and within a year determine he's not good enough to be a franchise player. If you ####ed up the #2 pick, then you're probably going to #### up the next pick.

 
Chad Ford is the source of that D'Angelo rumor.  While I've followed his draft stuff for a long time, he's not the most credible analyst out there.  

Russell is a much better shooter than I thought, I think it would be a big mistake to deal him. Seems like a perfect guard in today's NBA.  

 
Bucky86 said:
Now, if they really think his talent isn't good enough to be a core player, then they should all seriously just go quit right now.  You don't take a guy #2 overall and within a year determine he's not good enough to be a franchise player. If you ####ed up the #2 pick, then you're probably going to #### up the next pick.
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It's very possible that this is where things are. I agree with your take here.

 
100% chance Richard Jefferson is now on Luke's staff, right?  

Will be great to have him on board. His leadership and ability to relate will be invaluable.  

 
"Coach" Richard Jefferson? This is what I have to be excited about? Why would he want to be an assistant coach for the Lakers anyway? Why would we want that?

 
Really like what the Lakers did tonight. 

Ingram is a great fit, but I also really like what I'm reading about Zubac. DraftExpress has him ranked highly and calls him a steal. Pelton at ESPN had him way up on his statistical rankings too. Supposedly Zubac is a huge lakers fan and has a bunch of lakers jerseys (including a Bynum jersey buried somewhere in his closet). He says he stayed up all night to watch Kobes last game. 

Was hoping Davis would slip 1 more pick, but I'm liking this Zubac kid. 

 
Lakers take Brandon Ingram with second pick of draft


http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2016/story/_/id/16458661/2016-nba-draft-los-angeles-lakers-take-brandon-ingram-no-2-pick

NBA Draft: Lakers select Brandon Ingram at No. 2 to add star power back in L.A.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2016-nba-draft-lakers-select-brandon-ingram-at-no-2-to-add-star-power-back-in-l-a/

Lakers select Brandon Ingram with No. 2 pick in 2016 NBA draft

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/06/23/brandon-ingram-los-angeles-lakers-2016-nba-draft

Prep highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0k46dtm_7Q

Duke highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB5-pxzQP-g

* 6'9", 7'3" wingspan, 9'2" standing reach, 40% from 3 point line this year, unusually natural handle given his length, instinctive defender, great potential as a shot blocker and rim protector, new HC Luke Walton brings GS scheme concepts

 
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Dare I say: :excited: Zubac seems a bit Frankensteinish, maybe he can take some dance lessons or something to improve his agility. But he's probably already an upgrade defensively over what they've had at the 5 the last couple of years.

Now we just have to pray they don't screw things up in free agency. Keep the cap space clear, don't commit to any big money clowns and make a run at Westbrook next year.

 
EYLive said:
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Freaking Pterodactyl*.

Ingram, Randle and Russell are a nice young and talented trio nucleus and core to build from, but it sounds like Ingram in particular (in physical stature, game and skill set reminiscent of Kevin Durant at a comparable stage of development for many scouts) is talented enough to potentially be the one that makes the greatest impact in restoring the team to respectability and competitiveness again. Though about his only cited weakness (WEAKNESS, slight bordering on frail) could be significant. He is just 18 and will naturally get bigger and stronger, but it will be a multi-year unfolding process. If that transpires, he has the kind of upside and seemingly limitless ceiling to emerge as a dominant player.  

* Reminds me of the dude wearing a turban with extendable arms in Master of the Flying Guillotine (1:50 mark)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ91PVV_GLM

 
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Bob Magaw said:
Freaking Pterodactyl*.

Ingram, Randle and Russell are a nice young and talented trio nucleus and core to build from, but it sounds like Ingram in particular (in physical stature, game and skill set reminiscent of Kevin Durant at a comparable stage of development for many scouts) is talented enough to potentially be the one that makes the greatest impact in restoring the team to respectability and competitiveness again. Though about his only cited weakness (WEAKNESS, slight bordering on frail) could be significant. He is just 18 and will naturally get bigger and stronger, but it will be a multi-year unfolding process. If that transpires, he has the kind of upside and seemingly limitless ceiling to emerge as a dominant player.  

* Reminds me of the dude with the extendable arms turban in Master of the Flying Guillotine (1:50 mark)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ91PVV_GLM
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Brandon "Inspector Gadget" Ingram

 
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Great offseason so far.

Getting Luke is going to totally change the culture here.  I think it gives us a fresh, exciting, and "new" look.  I think his voice/vision in free agent meetings is going to be huge.  Love Ingram, so much potential and checks every box for this new era type player.

I love the young nucleus of D'Angelo, Ingram, and Randle.  I think they all have all star potential, a little down on Julius but want to see him in Luke's system.  Solid rotation/bench players in Clarkson and Nance.  And some nice end of the bench potential in Brown, Black, and Zubac. 

Another big offseason.  I trust Mitch and would be ok with what he decides.  Personally I want to avoid Derozan and paying a near max salary to mid tier type guys.  If we strike out on the big names we need to be smart and structure contracts so we have at least two max slots available next year.  More big names and hopefully our young guys develop enough to be a more attractive destination.

If we don't get any major names, I think a nice offseason would be something like Bazemore, Eric Gordon, and Mozgov. Trade Lou Williams for a vet like Trevor Ariza. Resign Bass and Huertas.

Russell, Clarkson, Huertas

Bazemore, Gordon

Ariza, Ingram, Brown

Randle, Nance, Bass

Mozgov, Black, Zubac

Potentially a nice closing small ball 5 in

Russell, Clarkson, Bazemore, Ingram, Randle

 
Lakers usher in the post-Kobe era by drafting Ingram

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-lakers-ingram-20160624-snap-story.html

Lakers Draft Ivica Zubac With 32nd Pick  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHI6_dliiss

Ivica Zubac Highlights - impressive feet quickness, agility, body control, overall athleticism, coordination, hands, ambidextrous, though looks strictly like a low post player, only 19, 7'`1" and 265 lbs., he could get bigger and stronger while retaining his outstanding, exceptional movement skills for a big man.     

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKYxipqojag

The Lakers reportedly viewed him as a potential lottery-type talent, and Kupchak likened him to Marc Gasol.  

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/43216/lakers-draft-croatian-center-ivica-zubac-at-no-32

 
Bob Magaw said:
The Lakers reportedly viewed him as a potential lottery-type talent, and Kupchak likened him to Marc Gasol. 
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I saw an interview with Zubac the other night, and he said Marc Gasol was his role model and who he was trying to emulate with his game. It'll be interesting to see if Zubac can pull that off, and if Walton can figure out what to do with an old school post up 5 on offense. He'll have to rely more on his Shaq/Phil past life than his more recent GS life for that.

 
I too am fine with Durant not coming.  Frankly, the timing isn't right for him.  The Lakers will need a few years to develop.  Durant's time is now.  Whiteside is supposedly the real target, though I imagine he stays in Miami.  Horford rumored to be potentially paired with Durant in Boston - they have room for 2 max caps.  That actually makes a lot of sense. 

As for the Lakers, you couldn't ask for 2 better talents than Russell and Ingram.  These guys should be superstars in the NBA.  Russell has to prove he can step up mentally and get past the Nick Young BS and earn the respect of the locker room.  He showed flashes of superstardom last year.  Those 2 guys will bring the big free agents.  Randle will be a solid contributor but has limitations.  You have a good coach.  Now the young players have to step up.  If they do, it will all come together.  Pieces will be easy to add.

 
USA Today, few noteworthy points, Ingram eating six meals a day to bulk up for expected NBA rigors/banging, also, while not always overtly intense before games, he plays with a killer instinct during them. 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/draft/2016/06/23/brandon-ingram-lakers-nba-draft-second-pick/86310520/

LA Times Bill Plaschke on something about the shot of Ingram the Lakers will find helpful - It goes in. :)  

http://www.latimes.com/sports/nba/la-sp-lakers-draft-plaschke-20160623-snap-story.html

 
Mozgov for 4/64. Two years too many. Hope he gets dealt before the end of that deal or that its as heavily front loaded as can be.

Looks like they're going to resign Clarkson though for 4/50. That's a good thing.

 
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I'll give the Lakers FO this...they're at least adding pieces to supplement the young core this year instead of chasing the big fish and striking out.  Killed them last year.  Ed Davis would look sooooo good playing C with this crew.  Moz is a good fit here.  $ is crazy, but the fit is good.

 
rodg12 said:
I'll give the Lakers FO this...they're at least adding pieces to supplement the young core this year instead of chasing the big fish and striking out.  Killed them last year.  Ed Davis would look sooooo good playing C with this crew.  Moz is a good fit here.  $ is crazy, but the fit is good.
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Yeah, I like the guy for their situation, I don't like the contract. He'll be a placeholder while they figure out if Zubac is worth anything. Mozgof's a guy who obviously can handle collecting a paycheck on the bench, he won't be a road block to playing time for Zubac if he develops. I wonder if they calculated that Mozgov's deal is what they need to get to the cap floor next year.

I imagine they're going to tank again this year to try and keep their 1st rounder one more time, then make a serious push for quality FA next year.

 
They did go after Batum, but couldn't match Charlotte's $ or years.  At this point, just roll with the youngsters and let them develop in Luke's system.  Best chance of having a good squad and competing for FAs in 2017.

 
Wish we payed a little more for a Biyombo/Bazemore combo instead but we have to trust the front office.

Need a vet PG to help Russ and keep enough cap to sign a max guy next year.

 
JMon348 said:
Great offseason so far.

Getting Luke is going to totally change the culture here.  I think it gives us a fresh, exciting, and "new" look.  I think his voice/vision in free agent meetings is going to be huge.  Love Ingram, so much potential and checks every box for this new era type player.

I love the young nucleus of D'Angelo, Ingram, and Randle.  I think they all have all star potential, a little down on Julius but want to see him in Luke's system.  Solid rotation/bench players in Clarkson and Nance.  And some nice end of the bench potential in Brown, Black, and Zubac. 

Another big offseason.  I trust Mitch and would be ok with what he decides.  Personally I want to avoid Derozan and paying a near max salary to mid tier type guys.  If we strike out on the big names we need to be smart and structure contracts so we have at least two max slots available next year.  More big names and hopefully our young guys develop enough to be a more attractive destination.

If we don't get any major names, I think a nice offseason would be something like Bazemore, Eric Gordon, and Mozgov. Trade Lou Williams for a vet like Trevor Ariza. Resign Bass and Huertas.

Russell, Clarkson, Huertas

Bazemore, Gordon

Ariza, Ingram, Brown

Randle, Nance, Bass

Mozgov, Black, Zubac

Potentially a nice closing small ball 5 in

Russell, Clarkson, Bazemore, Ingram, Randle
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This was a helluva call JMon. Pretty close on Bazemore as well. 

 
The Mozgov deal is awful. Indefensible.  Now that he's on board, I'll hope he surprises everyone by blossoming and being the screener/finisher/defensive presence that we sorely lack, but I'm skeptical.  

I'll say this - they have a nice, solid 9 man rotation.  Gotta hope Randle and Russell make the leap, and Ingram steadily improves while growing into his body. Nance Jr is going to surprise some folks.  

I think they're looking at 35-40 wins, and much more fun to watch with the young guys and new system.  

 
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tommyGunZ said:
This was a helluva call JMon. Pretty close on Bazemore as well. 
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These contracts are crazier than I thought.  The Mahimi deal made me feel better about Moz.  I anticipated the Bazemore numbers but was expecting a lot less money and years for Mozgov and Gordon.

Heres to a 35 win season, young guys improving, and getting lucky in the lottery.

 
I'd like to see the Lakers go after someone like Harkless, especially if Crabbe gets a bigger offer.  It'll be interesting with how much they are paying Turner if Blazers match both. 

 
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