Lache Seastrunk - RB - Baylor (2 Viewers)

[Brunell4MVP]

He is not an NFL caliber rb. A 3rd down rb that can't pass protect or play special teams. His long run was against 2 players that won't be in the nfl that both took a bad angle. He only caught 9 passes in his last 2 years of college. He will go on the practice squad and they'll maybe use him if someone gets injured.

 

[Second Sight]

Teams like the falcons, colts, and jags would be wise to be looking at this guy.

 

[3C's]

He is not an NFL caliber rb. A 3rd down rb that can't pass protect or play special teams. His long run was against 2 players that won't be in the nfl that both took a bad angle. He only caught 9 passes in his last 2 years of college. He will go on the practice squad and they'll maybe use him if someone gets injured.

Uh oh, now you've done it.

 

[amnesiac]

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[3C's]

teams must be tripping over themselves

 

[3C's]

Still nothing but waiver claims can take time to sort out. Still rolling in...

 

[3C's]

Washington added Thompson to PS so to me that could mean Lache's been claimed (he knows nothing apparently) by another team. Could mean several things though.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

He wasn't claimed. Choosing between Practice Squad offers apparently, and he might be salty about getting beat out by Redd in Washington, who knows.

 

[3C's]

Or it could be that he just isn't as good as some here thought.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Or it could be that he just isn't as good as some here thought.

Rumblings on twitter about his attitude issues keeping teams away, as well.

 

[3C's]

Or it could be that he just isn't as good as some here thought.

Rumblings on twitter about his attitude issues keeping teams away, as well.

While that could be, I seriously doubt that "attitude" would keep a future "star" from being picked up. It's obvious whoever started this thread really has no clue.

 

[DexterDew]

I like then "he will be better than CJ" comment

 

[Casting Couch]

Or it could be that he just isn't as good as some here thought.

Bingo !!

Most NFL scouts had this guy virtually undraftable, but some in the FBG set were "irrationably exuberant" about him.

(Quote used without permission from the Alan Greenspan archives)

 

[jwb]

Or it could be that he just isn't as good as some here thought.

Bingo !!

Most NFL scouts had this guy virtually undraftable, but some in the FBG set were "irrationably exuberant" about him.

(Quote used without permission from the Alan Greenspan archives)

Last year, he was a consensus top 5 guy in devy drafts. Many went Lee, Watkins, Seastrunk.

 

[Casting Couch]

Or it could be that he just isn't as good as some here thought.

Bingo !!

Most NFL scouts had this guy virtually undraftable, but some in the FBG set were "irrationably exuberant" about him.

(Quote used without permission from the Alan Greenspan archives)

Last year, he was a consensus top 5 guy in devy drafts. Many went Lee, Watkins, Seastrunk.

I remember this. Before his senior season, he was going high in devy drafts

 

[CR69]

Looks like he can be dropped now. Sucks, I thought he had some potential.

 

[3C's]

Or it could be that he just isn't as good as some here thought.

Bingo !!

Most NFL scouts had this guy virtually undraftable, but some in the FBG set were "irrationably exuberant" about him.

(Quote used without permission from the Alan Greenspan archives)

Last year, he was a consensus top 5 guy in devy drafts. Many went Lee, Watkins, Seastrunk.

So last year they (FF types) were even more wrong than this year apparently.

 

[3C's]

Did he sneak through and they forgot about him?

ETA: Washington, so stupid to cut him.

 

[identikit]

Mike Jones @MikeJonesWaPo

Source says Seastrunk hasn't signed to practice squad because last minute, team informed his camp they were going a different direction.

 

[EBF]

Well I was wrong about this dude. At least I only ate the poison pill in one league. I thought he looked reasonably good in the preseason, so I'm surprised nobody has even given him a practice squad shot. He's rumored to be a pretty big mental case. Maybe that played a role.

 

[amnesiac]

oops

 

[cstu]

Well I was wrong about this dude. At least I only ate the poison pill in one league. I thought he looked reasonably good in the preseason, so I'm surprised nobody has even given him a practice squad shot. He's rumored to be a pretty big mental case. Maybe that played a role.

His fingernails are creepy.

 

[Brewtown]

Well I was wrong about this dude. At least I only ate the poison pill in one league. I thought he looked reasonably good in the preseason, so I'm surprised nobody has even given him a practice squad shot. He's rumored to be a pretty big mental case. Maybe that played a role.

Get this same speech ready about Sankey!

I still think that Seastrunk could be a force in the NFL with a little hard work and dedication -maybe this is a blessing for him?

 

[identikit]

Well I was wrong about this dude. At least I only ate the poison pill in one league. I thought he looked reasonably good in the preseason, so I'm surprised nobody has even given him a practice squad shot. He's rumored to be a pretty big mental case. Maybe that played a role.

 

[fatness]

Source says Seastrunk hasn't signed to practice squad because last minute, Redskins informed his camp they were going a different direction.

Mike Jones, Redskin beat reporter for the Washington Post. https://twitter.com/MikeJonesWaPo/status/506268459681189889

 

[Braktastic]

Being rather new to dynasty, how long do I wait around to cut a guy like Seastrunk or Charles Johnson from my roster?

 

[fatness]

If a guy isn't on an NFL roster by the start of the season I wouldn't carry him on a dynasty roster unless you have a really big roster.

 

[coolnerd]

Being rather new to dynasty, how long do I wait around to cut a guy like Seastrunk or Charles Johnson from my roster?

1st depends on whether or not you have any faith in either one's athletic talent or football skill. if all you know about them is what I or what anyone tells you about them then be skeptical.

Second, Depends on roster size and whether or not you have a taxi squad...a large roster and/or a taxi squad is the place for guys with things that you may like, but might need the right situation. Nice place for dice rolls with large upside.

 

[jwb]

Or it could be that he just isn't as good as some here thought.

Bingo !!

Most NFL scouts had this guy virtually undraftable, but some in the FBG set were "irrationably exuberant" about him.

(Quote used without permission from the Alan Greenspan archives)

Last year, he was a consensus top 5 guy in devy drafts. Many went Lee, Watkins, Seastrunk.

So last year they (FF types) were even more wrong than this year apparently.

Yea, kinda. But that happens sometimes with devy players. It's hard predicting the draft a year-plus out. And a #3 devy pick carries value.

The only reason he had/has any buzz at all was because of that. A bit of hope was invested in this guy.

 

[Xue]

He must have really rubbed some people the wrong way. I mean Jerick McKinnon is basically the same player, athletically and lacking pass game skills, yet went in 3rd. Tre Mason, too, hands but no pass pro.

Would make a great replacement for CJ Spiller since Spiller doesn't play on 3rd downs.

 

[cstu]

He must have really rubbed some people the wrong way. I mean Jerick McKinnon is basically the same player, athletically and lacking pass game skills, yet went in 3rd. Tre Mason, too, hands but no pass pro.

Would make a great replacement for CJ Spiller since Spiller doesn't play on 3rd downs.

There's definitely something up outside of his ability. He averaged 4.4 YPC in the preseason and caught 2 catches for 88 yards and a TD. A guy with his obvious talent doesn't get cut, ignored by every other team, and not even put on the PS unless there are things we don't know about going on behind the scenes.

 

[Eminence]

Those nails are pretty creepy.

 

[Eminence]

You would think at some point, somebody would want this guy returning kicks for their team?

 

[Nero]

Well I was wrong about this dude. At least I only ate the poison pill in one league. I thought he looked reasonably good in the preseason, so I'm surprised nobody has even given him a practice squad shot. He's rumored to be a pretty big mental case. Maybe that played a role.

His fingernails are creepy.

Mental case or homosexual? Nothing creepy about those nails. I've just never seen them on a straight male.

 

[JFS171]

Chris Kouffman ‏@ckparrot 9h
The fact Lache Seastrunk isn't on a roster or even on the Skins practice squad speaks volumes about his character/off-field issues.

 

[JFS171]

Being rather new to dynasty, how long do I wait around to cut a guy like Seastrunk or Charles Johnson from my roster?

1st depends on whether or not you have any faith in either one's athletic talent or football skill. if all you know about them is what I or what anyone tells you about them then be skeptical.

Second, Depends on roster size and whether or not you have a taxi squad...a large roster and/or a taxi squad is the place for guys with things that you may like, but might need the right situation. Nice place for dice rolls with large upside.

I've got him on the end of my bench in a 16-team 20-man roster league… not sure how long I'll keep holding. He's clearly talented, but apparently he's a handful off the field and in the locker room, and that's quite problematic in the NFL.

 

[3C's]

The writing was on the wall. "behind the 8 ball" and "coming along at a slower place than I would probably like" are not what you want to hear.

http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/gruden-seastrunk-bit-behind-eight-ball

Haven't found anything to support the "character issues" other than a few tweets where people are guessing that is the reason. Washington still has 2 spots open on their PS. Could still add him but they've said they have no plans.

 

[jmo87usc]

Most teams probably did due diligence with pre draft scouting. The fact that he lasted til 6th round and now no one even has room on a PS for him is real bad. I stashed him on my taxi squad in a 30 man roster 14 team dynasty.(offense only).

However it looks like the jury is already out on this guy. I'm seriously considering dropping him for Marion Grice at this point. Since he actually made a team.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

I'd love to read more about these character issues. Never heard of em.

 

[Bojang0301]

I'm holding in both my PPR with full 3-4-3 and 3-3-3 IDP with 45 man rosters. My eyes don't deceive me. Brandon Marshall was a mental case, you have Ray Rice knocking out his GF and various other random craziness in the NFL. Maybe he'll have to pay his dues on a PS or CFL squad to start out but it's worth it to me to hold him until I am in dire straits for another roster spot.

 

[JFS171]

The writing was on the wall. "behind the 8 ball" and "coming along at a slower place than I would probably like" are not what you want to hear.

http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/gruden-seastrunk-bit-behind-eight-ball

Haven't found anything to support the "character issues" other than a few tweets where people are guessing that is the reason. Washington still has 2 spots open on their PS. Could still add him but they've said they have no plans.

I agree the writing was on the wall in Washington, but you could've argued the same thing about Crowell in Cleveland prior to that fourth preseason game.

Lache produced with the ball in his hands, but to not even be invited to the practice squad despite spots open and to not be claimed by another team speaks volumes.

I like the kid's ability to run the football and make plays, but there are clearly other issues at play here. This league rosters dudes you wouldn't exactly want your daughter hanging out with. The NFL puts murderers, thiefs, liars, swindlers, etc on the field when they can play. To get passed on by all those teams after making explosive plays all preseason is a major red flag IMO.

 

[3C's]

The writing was on the wall. "behind the 8 ball" and "coming along at a slower place than I would probably like" are not what you want to hear.

http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/gruden-seastrunk-bit-behind-eight-ball

Haven't found anything to support the "character issues" other than a few tweets where people are guessing that is the reason. Washington still has 2 spots open on their PS. Could still add him but they've said they have no plans.

I agree the writing was on the wall in Washington, but you could've argued the same thing about Crowell in Cleveland prior to that fourth preseason game.

Lache produced with the ball in his hands, but to not even be invited to the practice squad despite spots open and to not be claimed by another team speaks volumes.

I like the kid's ability to run the football and make plays, but there are clearly other issues at play here. This league rosters dudes you wouldn't exactly want your daughter hanging out with. The NFL puts murderers, thiefs, liars, swindlers, etc on the field when they can play. To get passed on by all those teams after making explosive plays all preseason is a major red flag IMO.

Exactly. Teams will turn a blind eye to a guy who can contribute. To me his is not about character. He's a major project in pass protection and his route running isn't good. He's fast. So are thousands of other guys. Fast all by itself won't cut it.

 

[3C's]

I'd love to read more about these character issues. Never heard of em.

Same here. Only thing I know of was the issue with Oregon.

 

[Bojang0301]

The writing was on the wall. "behind the 8 ball" and "coming along at a slower place than I would probably like" are not what you want to hear.

http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/gruden-seastrunk-bit-behind-eight-ball

Haven't found anything to support the "character issues" other than a few tweets where people are guessing that is the reason. Washington still has 2 spots open on their PS. Could still add him but they've said they have no plans.

I agree the writing was on the wall in Washington, but you could've argued the same thing about Crowell in Cleveland prior to that fourth preseason game.Lache produced with the ball in his hands, but to not even be invited to the practice squad despite spots open and to not be claimed by another team speaks volumes.

I like the kid's ability to run the football and make plays, but there are clearly other issues at play here. This league rosters dudes you wouldn't exactly want your daughter hanging out with. The NFL puts murderers, thiefs, liars, swindlers, etc on the field when they can play. To get passed on by all those teams after making explosive plays all preseason is a major red flag IMO.

Exactly. Teams will turn a blind eye to a guy who can contribute. To me his is not about character. He's a major project in pass protection and his route running isn't good. He's fast. So are thousands of other guys. Fast all by itself won't cut it.

It is definitely about his character. Teams LOVE fast. They hold guys for fast and nothing else. Jerome Mathis and Trindon Holiday made careers out of fast. Jeff Demps keeps getting tries because of it. He'll get another shot unless he's out there doing meth (which I guess is not out of the realm of impossible) and I'm going to try and hold him until then.

 

[3C's]

Or it could be that he just isn't as good as some here thought.

Bingo !!

Most NFL scouts had this guy virtually undraftable, but some in the FBG set were "irrationably exuberant" about him.

(Quote used without permission from the Alan Greenspan archives)

You should see the skins forums and fan tweets. Apparently everyone but the coaching staff sees his immense talent.

 

[3C's]

The writing was on the wall. "behind the 8 ball" and "coming along at a slower place than I would probably like" are not what you want to hear.

http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/gruden-seastrunk-bit-behind-eight-ball

Haven't found anything to support the "character issues" other than a few tweets where people are guessing that is the reason. Washington still has 2 spots open on their PS. Could still add him but they've said they have no plans.

I agree the writing was on the wall in Washington, but you could've argued the same thing about Crowell in Cleveland prior to that fourth preseason game.Lache produced with the ball in his hands, but to not even be invited to the practice squad despite spots open and to not be claimed by another team speaks volumes.

I like the kid's ability to run the football and make plays, but there are clearly other issues at play here. This league rosters dudes you wouldn't exactly want your daughter hanging out with. The NFL puts murderers, thiefs, liars, swindlers, etc on the field when they can play. To get passed on by all those teams after making explosive plays all preseason is a major red flag IMO.

Exactly. Teams will turn a blind eye to a guy who can contribute. To me his is not about character. He's a major project in pass protection and his route running isn't good. He's fast. So are thousands of other guys. Fast all by itself won't cut it.

It is definitely about his character. Teams LOVE fast. They hold guys for fast and nothing else. Jerome Mathis and Trindon Holiday made careers out of fast. Jeff Demps keeps getting tries because of it. He'll get another shot unless he's out there doing meth (which I guess is not out of the realm of impossible) and I'm going to try and hold him until then.

Okay, show me where there is anything concrete about character.

 

[Bojang0301]

The writing was on the wall. "behind the 8 ball" and "coming along at a slower place than I would probably like" are not what you want to hear.

http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/gruden-seastrunk-bit-behind-eight-ball

Haven't found anything to support the "character issues" other than a few tweets where people are guessing that is the reason. Washington still has 2 spots open on their PS. Could still add him but they've said they have no plans.

I agree the writing was on the wall in Washington, but you could've argued the same thing about Crowell in Cleveland prior to that fourth preseason game.Lache produced with the ball in his hands, but to not even be invited to the practice squad despite spots open and to not be claimed by another team speaks volumes.

I like the kid's ability to run the football and make plays, but there are clearly other issues at play here. This league rosters dudes you wouldn't exactly want your daughter hanging out with. The NFL puts murderers, thiefs, liars, swindlers, etc on the field when they can play. To get passed on by all those teams after making explosive plays all preseason is a major red flag IMO.

Exactly. Teams will turn a blind eye to a guy who can contribute. To me his is not about character. He's a major project in pass protection and his route running isn't good. He's fast. So are thousands of other guys. Fast all by itself won't cut it.

It is definitely about his character. Teams LOVE fast. They hold guys for fast and nothing else. Jerome Mathis and Trindon Holiday made careers out of fast. Jeff Demps keeps getting tries because of it. He'll get another shot unless he's out there doing meth (which I guess is not out of the realm of impossible) and I'm going to try and hold him until then.

Okay, show me where there is anything concrete about character.

I could say the same thing about your theory. Plenty of players have been cut before getting a chance to shine. You already know that being a Steelers fan. James Harrison was cut once by the Ravens and 3 or 4 time by the Steelers and had some personality issues.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

The writing was on the wall. "behind the 8 ball" and "coming along at a slower place than I would probably like" are not what you want to hear.

http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/gruden-seastrunk-bit-behind-eight-ball

Haven't found anything to support the "character issues" other than a few tweets where people are guessing that is the reason. Washington still has 2 spots open on their PS. Could still add him but they've said they have no plans.

I agree the writing was on the wall in Washington, but you could've argued the same thing about Crowell in Cleveland prior to that fourth preseason game.Lache produced with the ball in his hands, but to not even be invited to the practice squad despite spots open and to not be claimed by another team speaks volumes.

I like the kid's ability to run the football and make plays, but there are clearly other issues at play here. This league rosters dudes you wouldn't exactly want your daughter hanging out with. The NFL puts murderers, thiefs, liars, swindlers, etc on the field when they can play. To get passed on by all those teams after making explosive plays all preseason is a major red flag IMO.

Exactly. Teams will turn a blind eye to a guy who can contribute. To me his is not about character. He's a major project in pass protection and his route running isn't good. He's fast. So are thousands of other guys. Fast all by itself won't cut it.

It is definitely about his character. Teams LOVE fast. They hold guys for fast and nothing else. Jerome Mathis and Trindon Holiday made careers out of fast. Jeff Demps keeps getting tries because of it. He'll get another shot unless he's out there doing meth (which I guess is not out of the realm of impossible) and I'm going to try and hold him until then.

Okay, show me where there is anything concrete about character.

I could say the same thing about your theory. Plenty of players have been cut before getting a chance to shine. You already know that being a Steelers fan. James Harrison was cut once by the Ravens and 3 or 4 time by the Steelers and had some personality issues.

I understood 3Cs theory to just want the "character issues" theorists to support it. They aren't doing that right now. Maybe you could help with providing actual information.

 

[fatness]

The writing was on the wall. "behind the 8 ball" and "coming along at a slower place than I would probably like" are not what you want to hear.

http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/gruden-seastrunk-bit-behind-eight-ball

Haven't found anything to support the "character issues" other than a few tweets where people are guessing that is the reason. Washington still has 2 spots open on their PS. Could still add him but they've said they have no plans.

I agree the writing was on the wall in Washington, but you could've argued the same thing about Crowell in Cleveland prior to that fourth preseason game.Lache produced with the ball in his hands, but to not even be invited to the practice squad despite spots open and to not be claimed by another team speaks volumes.

I like the kid's ability to run the football and make plays, but there are clearly other issues at play here. This league rosters dudes you wouldn't exactly want your daughter hanging out with. The NFL puts murderers, thiefs, liars, swindlers, etc on the field when they can play. To get passed on by all those teams after making explosive plays all preseason is a major red flag IMO.

Exactly. Teams will turn a blind eye to a guy who can contribute. To me his is not about character. He's a major project in pass protection and his route running isn't good. He's fast. So are thousands of other guys. Fast all by itself won't cut it.

It is definitely about his character. Teams LOVE fast. They hold guys for fast and nothing else. Jerome Mathis and Trindon Holiday made careers out of fast. Jeff Demps keeps getting tries because of it. He'll get another shot unless he's out there doing meth (which I guess is not out of the realm of impossible) and I'm going to try and hold him until then.

Okay, show me where there is anything concrete about character.

I could say the same thing about your theory. Plenty of players have been cut before getting a chance to shine. You already know that being a Steelers fan. James Harrison was cut once by the Ravens and 3 or 4 time by the Steelers and had some personality issues.

I understood 3Cs theory to just want the "character issues" theorists to support it. They aren't doing that right now. Maybe you could help with providing actual information.

He could not pass block worth a crap. His role would have been to come in on passing downs and that was not going to happen when he couldn't block.

As far as character issues, I've seen nothing reported during preseason by any of the Redskins beat reporters. There's a decent chance that, in the future when people talk about Seastrunk's character issues and are asked for substantiation, they'll link to this thread. Which so far substantiates no character issues.

Redd outplayed him in training camp and he's a UDFA. Thompson could block somewhat, could catch and could run, which is a longer list than what Seastrunk could do and Thompson didn't make the team. Royster could block, catch, and run moderately well which is a longer list than what Seastrunk could do, and Royster didn't make the team.

Seastrunk could run real fast and that's it. Impressive speed, tons of casual Redskin fans loved him for it, but he didn't earn a place on the team.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

If he was good he'd be on the Redskins. They drafted him and wanted to give him a chance more than any other team. They cut him...not even practice squad. Nobody has picked him up. Character issues aside, if the guy could play he'd be getting a chance.

Redskins fans love to fall in love with underachieving backup position players ... Brandon Banks, Marko Mitchell, Hankerson, Malcolm Kelly, Sage Rosenfelds, Skip Hicks, Colt Brennan. Show me where any amounted to anything. Latest case...Lache Seastrunk