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Thank you, this happened 12 years ago but was still an unfortunate circumstance.
What is this business of the police naming Collins publicly?
You'd think what you just posted would be common sense. But apparently here, if the police want to speak with you, then obviously you're guilty.
This is wildly inappropriate. You're becoming obnoxious about stuff like this.cstu said:
Why would they?
I'm sure his compassion is appreciated.
I don't think anyone in here thinks that. Maybe one person in the whole thread. But the fact that Collins name has now been tarnished and his livelihood affected is real and true. Plus given his social status, you gotta think this is either terrible timing or maybe there is more to it. We are just trying to make heads and tails out of the information we are fed. If anyone is saying he is guilty or not guilty at this point they are wrong. But I don't think anyone has said that. And the one guy who did backed off of it.
As I understand it understanding news is breaking every minute, he has taken his request to the nflpa, but since he's not yet a member, there's not much the union can do. So far it looks like he will be in the draft. The NFL probably doesn't want to do him a favor and later find out he was involved. That's not worth the PR risk.
If he is involved, they're doing the 32 teams a favor (and themselves).
Exactly. If he ends up being innocent it benefits him. Guilty it benefits the NFL teams. Win win. Well not as much of a win as being drafted 15 overall, but best he can hope for.
Easy there slugger. We all have a right against self-incrimination, and just because the cops want to talk to him doesn't mean that they are entitled to talk to him without his consent. Without holding elected office, his attorney can very easily pull the plug on any interview at any time. Sure, they could compel him to appear and testify by subpoena, but they aren't anywhere close to that point now.
This is my feeling as well. It is a lot to throw on the NFL in the hours leading up to the draft. I think everyone just has to ride this out.
Agreed. This a tough call either way. Also if he goes into the Supplemental Draft and goes at say, the 15th pick, would his compensation be equivalent to the #15 pick on the normal draft day?
Thank you, but I wasn't offended. However I was just trying to point out that the police have a specific job to do, and in interviews anything you say can become an issue regardless of innocence or guilt even if it's not related to the crime in question.
There will definitely be a point in this draft where the reward will outweigh the risk. As I said, I can see plenty of these tackle needy teams taking him in the 3rd round or on if they don't make a move for an OT prior to him. Hell, even if they did. Collins was viewed as some as the top Tackle in the draft. If they Giants don't take an OL in the 1st or 2nd and he's sitting there during the 3rd when they're on the clock I'd be livid if they passed on him. They haven't had a successful 3rd round pick since Justin Tuck. Sure, Manningham was a 3rd rounder too but he wasn't really a world breaker at WR. After Tuck you have to go all the way to 1991 when they selected Ed McCaffery in the 3rd round. Why not take a shot on Collins in the 3rd? A guy who could be a potential pro-bowl OT. Odds are about 3% whoever they select over him is successful anyway. Are the odds really that much worse Collins is a murderer?
Rapaport: No rules for a player to be eligible and then not eligible. Would need an alteration of the CBA, agreement of the NFL management council, etc.
NFL teams are risk-averse, you hear it all the time.
The new CBA sets parameters on rookie deals. If he gets drafted in the 3rd he gets 3rd round money.
Yeah, thanks I know.
No matter when he gets drafted he's going to have the nagging thought that he should have gone earlier. Bad break for the kid.
Here is law school lecture on not talking to the police before getting a lawyer. http://www.richfiorellalaw.com/?p=23
Sam Montgomery's name is there, so this picture is at least 2 years old. But if you are serious, then I don't know how you can make the jump from a Sophomore that misses a workout to being able to commit murder.
That probably doesn't bear on whether or not he is a murder suspect, his current biggest red flag.
