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Lamont Jordan asks for release (1 Viewer)

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...eed=rss.raiders

Raiders running back Lamont Jordan asked the team to release him this week, and he just might get his wish.

Jordan told team officials Monday he wanted out after being benched the past two games, a source familiar with the situation said on the condition of anonymity.

If the Raiders decide to release Jordan, they won't have to look far for a replacement. They must activate rookie running back Michael Bush by 1 p.m. today or place him on the season-ending injured reserve list.

Coach Lane Kiffin said the team hasn't decided what to do with Bush, but if it wants to add him to the 53-man roster, a current player must go - and Jordan has already raised his hand for that.

Jordan's request came after being put on the inactive list for Sunday's 29-22 loss at Minnesota - the first time he did not suit up when healthy in three seasons with Oakland, including his 1,000-yard debut in 2005.

He started the first four games of this season before injuring his back at Miami, where he had 15 carries for 74 yards in the first half. At the time, he ranked among the top five in NFL rushing.

Jordan started the next two games, but with 71 yards on 29 carries, lost his starting job to Justin Fargas. Jordan followed that with 16 carries for 26 yards as a backup the next two games.

Kiffin said the move has more to do with Fargas' production than anything Jordan has done, but now even Fargas is struggling. The career backup gained 141 yards on 45 carries for a 3.1-yard average the past two games.

Jordan, meanwhile, is just standing around, stuck on 129 carries for 521 yards - 25th-best in the NFL despite not starting for four weeks. His 230 receiving yards is sixth most by a running back, and his 159-yard rushing game at Denver ranks ninth this season.

Now that Jordan has asked for his release, the Raiders face two choices: Drop Jordan with nothing in return because the trade deadline was last month, or keep a disgruntled player at a time players are increasingly grumbling about the six-game losing streak and 2-8 record.

If the Raiders decide to release Jordan, today would be the perfect time because of the situation with Bush, Oakland's fourth-round draft pick in April.

Bush is coming back from breaking his leg at the start of his senior season at Louisville. He spent training camp on the "Physically Unable to Perform" list. When the season started, Bush was put on the "Reserve/Non-Football Injury" list as he continued his rehabilitation.

With Fargas as an every-down back and Dominic Rhodes as a backup, the Raiders could afford to ease Bush in if they give him Jordan's roster spot. It's not like Kiffin uses three tailbacks - only once have Fargas, Jordan and Rhodes touched the ball in the same game.

There remains a possibility that Rhodes gets cut to make room for Bush, if only because Kiffin has hardly used him. The former Colts starter has three carries in the past four games.

One reason the Raiders will keep them all: the chance Jordan or Rhodes ends up at a divisional foe.

The Chiefs could be without Larry Johnson the rest of the season. Jordan played for Herm Edwards with the Jets and remains close to the Chiefs' coach.

The Broncos could also use help. Travis Henry missed Monday's game with a rib injury and, after recently testing positive for marijuana, is facing a possible one-year suspension.

 
I would think that OAK would not want to release Jordan to see him go to a divisional rival. Doesn't make much sense, but niether does this whole situation.

I have been holding on to Jordan just for this reason. He get's released and then picked up by a RB-starved team. But the bigger question remains, can he make an impact on another team? He will have to learn the playbook and I would imagine that takes some time. And if he goes to KC (Den is not going to happen) is he even worth rostering? These are the questions that need to be looked at.

 
The AFC West is notorious for raiding each others teams' players. I could see Jordan in a KC uni, but it will be after Sunday. Al won't release him, and then play against him in the same week.

 
I think it is clear that oakland does not place much value on him anymore and they are going nowhere. I don't believe they would really care if he was signed by a team in their division.

 
The AFC West is notorious for raiding each others teams' players. I could see Jordan in a KC uni, but it will be after Sunday. Al won't release him, and then play against him in the same week.
While that makes sense, how would OAK handle the M.Bush situation. They need to activate him by 1 PM today and in order to do that they need to make room for him.
 
The AFC West is notorious for raiding each others teams' players. I could see Jordan in a KC uni, but it will be after Sunday. Al won't release him, and then play against him in the same week.
While that makes sense, how would OAK handle the M.Bush situation. They need to activate him by 1 PM today and in order to do that they need to make room for him.
They could cut Andrew Walter instead of Jordan. He is stuck at fourth on the depth chart and let's face it, he isn't moving up. They should have traded Jordan before the trade deadline if they wanted to clear him from the roster. Although I don't see Jordan playing a role again this year for Oakland, I doubt they cut him for the reasons mentioned above. He is worthless for fantasy this year; his future remains uncertain.
 
Oakland is not going to the playoffs this year. They have shown no evidence that they want to pay Jordan to sit on their bench next year. So I don't see why they would care whether a divisional foe picked up a player that they could get next year anyway. I can't imagine that Jordan would have a significant trade value if the Raiders wait till the offseason to trade him.

I see Rhodes or Jordan being released and Bush activated but I certainly don't know all of the ramifications of such a move. What is Bush's readiness? Salary cap issues? Bad egg concerns?

 
The AFC West is notorious for raiding each others teams' players. I could see Jordan in a KC uni, but it will be after Sunday. Al won't release him, and then play against him in the same week.
While that makes sense, how would OAK handle the M.Bush situation. They need to activate him by 1 PM today and in order to do that they need to make room for him.
They could cut Andrew Walter instead of Jordan. He is stuck at fourth on the depth chart and let's face it, he isn't moving up. They should have traded Jordan before the trade deadline if they wanted to clear him from the roster. Although I don't see Jordan playing a role again this year for Oakland, I doubt they cut him for the reasons mentioned above. He is worthless for fantasy this year; his future remains uncertain.
I don't think Oakland will cut Walter. He has a decent shot to be the #2 next year as most expect CPepp and McCown to move on and Russell to assume the starter role. Jordan did ask for them to release him on Monday, after their game with KC.
 
There is a strong possibility that Oak will activate Bush and cut Jordan. Then KC will obviously make a bid to sign Jordan and make a push for the playoffs. If that is the case then Kolby Smith is a one week waiver pickup.

This is just my opinion and I have no source or link. This would be the obvious course of action but stranger things have happened.

 
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There is something so funny about this situation. What could have possibly happened for Jordan's place on the team to drop so quickly? I'm really surprised more hasn't been talked about this or even rumored. Oakland is such a death-trap for players right now....

 
There is something so funny about this situation. What could have possibly happened for Jordan's place on the team to drop so quickly? I'm really surprised more hasn't been talked about this or even rumored. Oakland is such a death-trap for players right now....
He runs like he has #### in his pants.
 
There is something so funny about this situation. What could have possibly happened for Jordan's place on the team to drop so quickly? I'm really surprised more hasn't been talked about this or even rumored. Oakland is such a death-trap for players right now....
He runs like he has #### in his pants.
Pretty interesting considering he was one of the top RB's through the first 4-5 weeks until he got hurt.
 
There is something so funny about this situation. What could have possibly happened for Jordan's place on the team to drop so quickly? I'm really surprised more hasn't been talked about this or even rumored. Oakland is such a death-trap for players right now....
He runs like he has #### in his pants.
Pretty interesting considering he was one of the top RB's through the first 4-5 weeks until he got hurt.
True, but obviously things move quickly. Don't forget that Jordan was out of favor (conditioning and attitude were factors IIRC), and had to take a pay cut just to stay on the roster for this year.While he had a strong camp and early part of the season, whatever initially angered team brass seems to have come back full circle.

 
There is something so funny about this situation. What could have possibly happened for Jordan's place on the team to drop so quickly? I'm really surprised more hasn't been talked about this or even rumored. Oakland is such a death-trap for players right now....
He runs like he has #### in his pants.
Pretty interesting considering he was one of the top RB's through the first 4-5 weeks until he got hurt.
True, but obviously things move quickly. Don't forget that Jordan was out of favor (conditioning and attitude were factors IIRC), and had to take a pay cut just to stay on the roster for this year.While he had a strong camp and early part of the season, whatever initially angered team brass seems to have come back full circle.
Is the bolded passage above true? I don't recall this.
 
There is something so funny about this situation. What could have possibly happened for Jordan's place on the team to drop so quickly? I'm really surprised more hasn't been talked about this or even rumored. Oakland is such a death-trap for players right now....
He runs like he has #### in his pants.
Pretty interesting considering he was one of the top RB's through the first 4-5 weeks until he got hurt.
True, but obviously things move quickly. Don't forget that Jordan was out of favor (conditioning and attitude were factors IIRC), and had to take a pay cut just to stay on the roster for this year.While he had a strong camp and early part of the season, whatever initially angered team brass seems to have come back full circle.
Is the bolded passage above true? I don't recall this.
I don't have the inclination to look it up, but I'm almost certain he restructured early in the offseason when his roster bonus came due (or something to that effect)
 
Wouldn't Jordan be placed on waivers? How long does that process take? If he were placed on waivers by 4 pm today, would he even have a chance to be with another team by this weekend?

 
Yes, Jordan would get placed on waiver if/when released. If a team claims him then they would be responsible for the rest of his contract (IIRC). If he clears waivers then he is a FA. I think that there are a few teams out there that would take a flier on Jordan (KC comes to mind), but I don't know if they would be able to pick up the remainder of his contract.

 
what's to stop the Raiders from putting Jordan on IR?

couldn't they find a doctor to say his back injury is too serious to play on, and then they can deal him in the offseason and get compensation?

 
There is something so funny about this situation. What could have possibly happened for Jordan's place on the team to drop so quickly? I'm really surprised more hasn't been talked about this or even rumored. Oakland is such a death-trap for players right now....
He runs like he has #### in his pants.
Pretty interesting considering he was one of the top RB's through the first 4-5 weeks until he got hurt.
True, but obviously things move quickly. Don't forget that Jordan was out of favor (conditioning and attitude were factors IIRC), and had to take a pay cut just to stay on the roster for this year.While he had a strong camp and early part of the season, whatever initially angered team brass seems to have come back full circle.
Is the bolded passage above true? I don't recall this.
Yep. He took a paycut to stay with the team this year.
 
There is something so funny about this situation. What could have possibly happened for Jordan's place on the team to drop so quickly? I'm really surprised more hasn't been talked about this or even rumored. Oakland is such a death-trap for players right now....
He runs like he has #### in his pants.
Pretty interesting considering he was one of the top RB's through the first 4-5 weeks until he got hurt.
True, but obviously things move quickly. Don't forget that Jordan was out of favor (conditioning and attitude were factors IIRC), and had to take a pay cut just to stay on the roster for this year.

While he had a strong camp and early part of the season, whatever initially angered team brass seems to have come back full circle.
Exactly. That's what I'm wondering what it could have possibly been then has gotten him in the doghouse. With the way things are reported and speculated on in the NFL, this has been notoriously hush hush and quiet. Then again, it is the Raiders so maybe not many people really care.
 
It would seem that since the Jerry Porter debacle last year, every other player would look like a saint. Besides the reports that Porter parked in Al Davis’s parking spot not sure if this is true or not), he was supposedly laughing on the bench at his team’s misfortunate and cheering the opposing defense’s unending sack count.

Seriously, if any of that is true and Porter is still on the team, what in the world could Jordan possibly do that would eclipse that? Did he replace Al Davis’s heart medicine with Pez? Was he the one that gave Kiffin mono? Did he wear a Marcus Allen KC jersey?

 
He has missed a lot of time with his back since his superb 2005 campaign. That probably plays a large role.
He did miss a few games at the end of 2005, but as we've documented in the past, I think "superb" is not the term fort hat year. It was very, very good for fantasy purposes, but he had a mediocre 3.8 YPC and plenty of drops. IIRC, Al Davis didn't view his 2005 as a great campaign, and he hasn't really gotten back in good graces since.
 
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Falcons, Bengals, Bears might pick him up before he ever got to KC or Denver. The odds of him falling to NE are slim and none, but I guess the size of his contract might have something to do with it. It is possible he falls all the way and then someone signs him to a much more cap friendly contract.

 
He has missed a lot of time with his back since his superb 2005 campaign. That probably plays a large role.
He did miss a few games at the end of 2005, but as we've documented in the past, I think "superb" is not the term fort hat year. It was very, very good for fantasy purposes, but he had a mediocre 3.8 YPC and plenty of drops. IIRC, Al Davis didn't view his 2005 as a great campaign, and he hasn't really gotten back in good graces since.
Fantasy owners overrate Jordan's ability based upon that very good FANTASY season in 05; but as you point out it wasn't a completely great performance in real football and in 06 he was horrendous. This year has been a mixed bag with injuries.
 
He has missed a lot of time with his back since his superb 2005 campaign. That probably plays a large role.
He did miss a few games at the end of 2005, but as we've documented in the past, I think "superb" is not the term fort hat year. It was very, very good for fantasy purposes, but he had a mediocre 3.8 YPC and plenty of drops. IIRC, Al Davis didn't view his 2005 as a great campaign, and he hasn't really gotten back in good graces since.
I'd call it superb for someone who had always been a backup and never the #1 guy.
 
He has missed a lot of time with his back since his superb 2005 campaign. That probably plays a large role.
He did miss a few games at the end of 2005, but as we've documented in the past, I think "superb" is not the term fort hat year. It was very, very good for fantasy purposes, but he had a mediocre 3.8 YPC and plenty of drops. IIRC, Al Davis didn't view his 2005 as a great campaign, and he hasn't really gotten back in good graces since.
I'd call it superb for someone who had always been a backup and never the #1 guy.
Al Davis won't, which is eminently more important. And certainly not for the 20+ million they gave to him in free agency.
 
All I can find was this - and it's from YESTERDAY:

Note: No transactions filed today regarding the Raiders regarding the activation of Michael Bush. Bush's status should be evident if he is suited up and on the practice field Wednesday.

 
All I can find was this - and it's from YESTERDAY:Note: No transactions filed today regarding the Raiders regarding the activation of Michael Bush. Bush's status should be evident if he is suited up and on the practice field Wednesday.
well, is he/did he practice today?
 
There is something so funny about this situation. What could have possibly happened for Jordan's place on the team to drop so quickly? I'm really surprised more hasn't been talked about this or even rumored. Oakland is such a death-trap for players right now....
He runs like he has #### in his pants.
Pretty interesting considering he was one of the top RB's through the first 4-5 weeks until he got hurt.
I think this is the coach trying to make his presence known. He has infact turned this team into a joke!I'm in the corner of those who don't think he would go to a division rival. I also don't think they would just cut him when they could obviously get something for him.

For him to lose his job to Fargas and for Rhodes to not get any touches, it just seems to me like maybe Jordan and Rhodes aren't giving their best efforts and the coach is making an example of them, in doing so he is wrecking this team.

 
There is something so funny about this situation. What could have possibly happened for Jordan's place on the team to drop so quickly? I'm really surprised more hasn't been talked about this or even rumored. Oakland is such a death-trap for players right now....
He runs like he has #### in his pants.
Pretty interesting considering he was one of the top RB's through the first 4-5 weeks until he got hurt.
I think this is the coach trying to make his presence known. He has infact turned this team into a joke!I'm in the corner of those who don't think he would go to a division rival. I also don't think they would just cut him when they could obviously get something for him.

For him to lose his job to Fargas and for Rhodes to not get any touches, it just seems to me like maybe Jordan and Rhodes aren't giving their best efforts and the coach is making an example of them, in doing so he is wrecking this team.
:hijack:I am interested in knowing why you feel that Kiffin is wrecking his team? There have been little or no reports with any player frustation. All I remember reading is that some players were starting to voice their frustrations of their losing record. But there was no mention of Kiffin ruining the team.

 

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