Larry Johnson Fantasy bust (1 Viewer)

[shadow2k]

You should merge the LJ and Foster threads. That should make it pretty interesting.

 

[jurb26]

You should merge the LJ and Foster threads. That should make it pretty interesting.

 

[Otis]

You should merge the LJ and Foster threads. That should make it pretty interesting.

Let's throw the Gore thread in there as well.

 

[jurb26]

You should merge the LJ and Foster threads. That should make it pretty interesting.

Let's throw the Gore thread in there as well.

Information overload?Good call, forgot about those threads.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

I don't believe I've seen a thread this long that contained so little valuable information. I'd close it, but the fact that it has so much staying power and so little true content is very intriguing. Like a car accident, you can't help but look . . .

Please also see the Foster thread on page one. Or any Den RB thread. Or any Mike Vick thread. Or Manning vs Brady threads.

So you realize your posting in this thread makes you look silly so you try and redirect the attention to somthing else???lololololoolollll you were DEAD wrong!LJ will be the # 1 RB THIS YEAR. Deal with it!!!!

 

[jurb26]

I don't believe I've seen a thread this long that contained so little valuable information. I'd close it, but the fact that it has so much staying power and so little true content is very intriguing. Like a car accident, you can't help but look . . .

Please also see the Foster thread on page one. Or any Den RB thread. Or any Mike Vick thread. Or Manning vs Brady threads.

So you realize your posting in this thread makes you look silly so you try and redirect the attention to somthing else???lololololoolollll you were DEAD wrong!LJ will be the # 1 RB THIS YEAR. Deal with it!!!!

 

[Tong Po]

I've got Larry Johnson in only one league.At this point I have no intention of trading him. There are only two people in the NFL I'd consider trading him for 1 for 1. LaDanian Tomlinson snd Clinton Portis. I'd have to see a few more healthy games from Portis to consider it as well, but for the most part I think those two are bonafied elite fantasy studs. Those who disagree with me and for the record... Who else would you say should be traded straight across for LJ?I'd like to hear you put your money where your mouth is and tell me who else holds more value. period.

Westy and Rudi.

Care to rethink that statement? You would actually trade LJ for Westbrook? Last time I checked a guy has to actually PLAY to score fantasy points.

 

[Tong Po]

I've got Larry Johnson in only one league.At this point I have no intention of trading him. There are only two people in the NFL I'd consider trading him for 1 for 1. LaDanian Tomlinson snd Clinton Portis. I'd have to see a few more healthy games from Portis to consider it as well, but for the most part I think those two are bonafied elite fantasy studs. Those who disagree with me and for the record... Who else would you say should be traded straight across for LJ?I'd like to hear you put your money where your mouth is and tell me who else holds more value. period.

Westy and Rudi.

Care to rethink that statement? You would actually trade LJ for Westbrook? Last time I checked a guy has to actually PLAY to score fantasy points.

Still waiting....

 

[jurb26]

I've got Larry Johnson in only one league.At this point I have no intention of trading him. There are only two people in the NFL I'd consider trading him for 1 for 1. LaDanian Tomlinson snd Clinton Portis. I'd have to see a few more healthy games from Portis to consider it as well, but for the most part I think those two are bonafied elite fantasy studs. Those who disagree with me and for the record... Who else would you say should be traded straight across for LJ?I'd like to hear you put your money where your mouth is and tell me who else holds more value. period.

Westy and Rudi.

Care to rethink that statement? You would actually trade LJ for Westbrook? Last time I checked a guy has to actually PLAY to score fantasy points.

Still waiting....

Waiting for what? I would still take Westy and his backup over LJ. Hint, Westy ALONE is still outscoring LJ not to mention what you could get by simply plugging in a backup RB. I would have thought you realized this too. As Vermile say's "your spinning your wheels."

 

[Tong Po]

I've got Larry Johnson in only one league.

At this point I have no intention of trading him. There are only two people in the NFL I'd consider trading him for 1 for 1. LaDanian Tomlinson snd Clinton Portis. I'd have to see a few more healthy games from Portis to consider it as well, but for the most part I think those two are bonafied elite fantasy studs.

Those who disagree with me and for the record... Who else would you say should be traded straight across for LJ?

I'd like to hear you put your money where your mouth is and tell me who else holds more value. period.

Westy and Rudi.

Care to rethink that statement? You would actually trade LJ for Westbrook? Last time I checked a guy has to actually PLAY to score fantasy points.

Still waiting....

Waiting for what? I would still take Westy and his backup over LJ. Hint, Westy ALONE is still outscoring LJ not to mention what you could get by simply plugging in a backup RB. I would have thought you realized this too. As Vermile say's "your spinning your wheels."

Ohhhh... now its Westy AND his back up. And who would that be by the way? Buckhalter? Moats? Reno Mahe? So basically you are now saying the Eagles RB position... regardless of who's in it... is more valuable than Larry friggin' Johnson? Wow.

 

[jurb26]

I've got Larry Johnson in only one league.

At this point I have no intention of trading him. There are only two people in the NFL I'd consider trading him for 1 for 1. LaDanian Tomlinson snd Clinton Portis. I'd have to see a few more healthy games from Portis to consider it as well, but for the most part I think those two are bonafied elite fantasy studs.

Those who disagree with me and for the record... Who else would you say should be traded straight across for LJ?

I'd like to hear you put your money where your mouth is and tell me who else holds more value. period.

Westy and Rudi.

Care to rethink that statement? You would actually trade LJ for Westbrook? Last time I checked a guy has to actually PLAY to score fantasy points.

Still waiting....

Waiting for what? I would still take Westy and his backup over LJ. Hint, Westy ALONE is still outscoring LJ not to mention what you could get by simply plugging in a backup RB. I would have thought you realized this too. As Vermile say's "your spinning your wheels."

Ohhhh... now its Westy AND his back up. And who would that be by the way? Buckhalter? Moats? Reno Mahe? So basically you are now saying the Eagles RB position... regardless of who's in it... is more valuable than Larry friggin' Johnson? Wow.

I didnt not know there wre fantasy leagues where when your guy did not play you were unable to replace him with another player.Just for the record now. If LJ misses time later in the season. Are you not permited to replace him with another player on your roster like the Westy owners apperently are not?

 

[David Yudkin]

I've got Larry Johnson in only one league.

At this point I have no intention of trading him. There are only two people in the NFL I'd consider trading him for 1 for 1. LaDanian Tomlinson snd Clinton Portis. I'd have to see a few more healthy games from Portis to consider it as well, but for the most part I think those two are bonafied elite fantasy studs.

Those who disagree with me and for the record... Who else would you say should be traded straight across for LJ?

I'd like to hear you put your money where your mouth is and tell me who else holds more value. period.

Westy and Rudi.

Care to rethink that statement? You would actually trade LJ for Westbrook? Last time I checked a guy has to actually PLAY to score fantasy points.

Still waiting....

Waiting for what? I would still take Westy and his backup over LJ. Hint, Westy ALONE is still outscoring LJ not to mention what you could get by simply plugging in a backup RB. I would have thought you realized this too. As Vermile say's "your spinning your wheels."

Ohhhh... now its Westy AND his back up. And who would that be by the way? Buckhalter? Moats? Reno Mahe? So basically you are now saying the Eagles RB position... regardless of who's in it... is more valuable than Larry friggin' Johnson? Wow.

I didnt not know there wre fantasy leagues where when your guy did not play you were unable to replace him with another player.Just for the record now. If LJ misses time later in the season. Are you not permited to replace him with another player on your roster like the Westy owners apperently are not?

Since you mentioned it . . .I lost a game last night when Westbrook couldn't go and at that point I could not replace him (no one else left to play cause it was a Monday game).

 

[jurb26]

I've got Larry Johnson in only one league.

At this point I have no intention of trading him. There are only two people in the NFL I'd consider trading him for 1 for 1. LaDanian Tomlinson snd Clinton Portis. I'd have to see a few more healthy games from Portis to consider it as well, but for the most part I think those two are bonafied elite fantasy studs.

Those who disagree with me and for the record... Who else would you say should be traded straight across for LJ?

I'd like to hear you put your money where your mouth is and tell me who else holds more value. period.

Westy and Rudi.

Care to rethink that statement? You would actually trade LJ for Westbrook? Last time I checked a guy has to actually PLAY to score fantasy points.

Still waiting....

Waiting for what? I would still take Westy and his backup over LJ. Hint, Westy ALONE is still outscoring LJ not to mention what you could get by simply plugging in a backup RB. I would have thought you realized this too. As Vermile say's "your spinning your wheels."

Ohhhh... now its Westy AND his back up. And who would that be by the way? Buckhalter? Moats? Reno Mahe? So basically you are now saying the Eagles RB position... regardless of who's in it... is more valuable than Larry friggin' Johnson? Wow.

I didnt not know there wre fantasy leagues where when your guy did not play you were unable to replace him with another player.Just for the record now. If LJ misses time later in the season. Are you not permited to replace him with another player on your roster like the Westy owners apperently are not?

Since you mentioned it . . .I lost a game last night when West couldn't go and at that point I could not replace him (no one else left to play cause it was a Monday game).

Yeah, that sucks. Too bad that was a Mon night game.

 

[shadow2k]

For anyone that was wondering why LJ was still in there when the game was already decided...

Q: Why did you leave Larry Johnson in there at 41-0?EDWARDS: “He wanted a 100-yards and Dee Brown cramped up. We didn’t have a running back. We tried Ronnie Cruz in there and he’s good as a fullback but as a tailback he wasn’t as good.”

 

[jurb26]

For anyone that was wondering why LJ was still in there when the game was already decided...

Q: Why did you leave Larry Johnson in there at 41-0?EDWARDS: “He wanted a 100-yards and Dee Brown cramped up. We didn’t have a running back. We tried Ronnie Cruz in there and he’s good as a fullback but as a tailback he wasn’t as good.”

The work load for LJ is pilling up again this year. I still don't really understand why it really matterd all that much if Cruz wasn't as good or even poor as a TB when up 41-0 with less than 4 mins to go in the game. LJ has amassed nearly 30 touches per game thus far. That would be almost 480 over the whole season. It will be hard to keep him out of the 1st tier with that kind of workload. It would be hard to keep any RB out with that kind of workload. We'll have to see if he wears down or it continues.

 

[Tong Po]

I've got Larry Johnson in only one league.

At this point I have no intention of trading him. There are only two people in the NFL I'd consider trading him for 1 for 1. LaDanian Tomlinson snd Clinton Portis. I'd have to see a few more healthy games from Portis to consider it as well, but for the most part I think those two are bonafied elite fantasy studs.

Those who disagree with me and for the record... Who else would you say should be traded straight across for LJ?

I'd like to hear you put your money where your mouth is and tell me who else holds more value. period.

Westy and Rudi.

Care to rethink that statement? You would actually trade LJ for Westbrook? Last time I checked a guy has to actually PLAY to score fantasy points.

Still waiting....

Waiting for what? I would still take Westy and his backup over LJ. Hint, Westy ALONE is still outscoring LJ not to mention what you could get by simply plugging in a backup RB. I would have thought you realized this too. As Vermile say's "your spinning your wheels."

Ohhhh... now its Westy AND his back up. And who would that be by the way? Buckhalter? Moats? Reno Mahe? So basically you are now saying the Eagles RB position... regardless of who's in it... is more valuable than Larry friggin' Johnson? Wow.

I didnt not know there wre fantasy leagues where when your guy did not play you were unable to replace him with another player.Just for the record now. If LJ misses time later in the season. Are you not permited to replace him with another player on your roster like the Westy owners apperently are not?

Whether or not you are able to replace a RB that is a late scratch is irrelevant. You said and I quote "I would still take Westy and his backup over LJ". I assume you mean... that if an owner offered you Westbrook and whoever you perceive his handcuff to be for Larry Johnson, you would ACCEPT that trade. I translate that as you believing the Eagles RB position is more valuable than LJ. Am I missing something?

 

[jurb26]

Whether or not you are able to replace a RB that is a late scratch is irrelevant. You said and I quote "I would still take Westy and his backup over LJ". I assume you mean... that if an owner offered you Westbrook and whoever you perceive his handcuff to be for Larry Johnson, you would ACCEPT that trade. I translate that as you believing the Eagles RB position is more valuable than LJ. Am I missing something?

No, I would take Westy/Philly handcuff over LJ/KC handcuff. That is not what I was refering to at first however. I really don't see how that is anydifferent than saying I would take Westy over LJ though. The handcuffs are basically throw ins.

 

[shadow2k]

For anyone that was wondering why LJ was still in there when the game was already decided...

Q: Why did you leave Larry Johnson in there at 41-0?EDWARDS: “He wanted a 100-yards and Dee Brown cramped up. We didn’t have a running back. We tried Ronnie Cruz in there and he’s good as a fullback but as a tailback he wasn’t as good.”

The work load for LJ is pilling up again this year. I still don't really understand why it really matterd all that much if Cruz wasn't as good or even poor as a TB when up 41-0 with less than 4 mins to go in the game. LJ has amassed nearly 30 touches per game thus far. That would be almost 480 over the whole season. It will be hard to keep him out of the 1st tier with that kind of workload. It would be hard to keep any RB out with that kind of workload. We'll have to see if he wears down or it continues.

Well it's 400 carries and 80 receptionis. He had 336 carries last year, 261 came in those final nine games. He didn't look like he was slowing down, and he wasn't getting banged up. But also...do you really think he'll get 80 receptions? I don't...Either way, I think the concern would be more for next year, I think most of us have seen the numbers on guys who get that many touches. Not to mention...Westrbook is the one I'd be more worried about, even if he were completely healthy right now. He's never played a full 16, and only 12 the last two years. He's already missed one this year. I really wanted him to fall to me in round 2, but he got sniped one pick before me. I guess that might be a good thing, it iced my victory this week, because I was playing the guy who drafted him...and I drafted Buckhalter.

 

[jurb26]

For anyone that was wondering why LJ was still in there when the game was already decided...

Q: Why did you leave Larry Johnson in there at 41-0?EDWARDS: “He wanted a 100-yards and Dee Brown cramped up. We didn’t have a running back. We tried Ronnie Cruz in there and he’s good as a fullback but as a tailback he wasn’t as good.”

The work load for LJ is pilling up again this year. I still don't really understand why it really matterd all that much if Cruz wasn't as good or even poor as a TB when up 41-0 with less than 4 mins to go in the game. LJ has amassed nearly 30 touches per game thus far. That would be almost 480 over the whole season. It will be hard to keep him out of the 1st tier with that kind of workload. It would be hard to keep any RB out with that kind of workload. We'll have to see if he wears down or it continues.

Well it's 400 carries and 80 receptionis. He had 336 carries last year, 261 came in those final nine games. He didn't look like he was slowing down, and he wasn't getting banged up. But also...do you really think he'll get 80 receptions? I don't...

I think the rec will come down as well, but not much. KC don't have a whole lot of other options. Either way, there is a vast difference between maintaining that kind of workload over 9 games as oppossed to 16.

 

[One]

I own Westy in 2 leagues and there isn't a soul in either that would give me LJ for that pile of damaged goods.

Jurb.. you're either full of hot air or really bad at fantasy football. At this point I'm thinkin' you're not the latter, but just refuse to admit it when you're wrong. I'm not sure what you have against the guy, but that certain something is seriously blinding you from reality.

 

[RKMoney]

You should merge the LJ and Foster threads. That should make it pretty interesting.

Let's throw the Gore thread in there as well.

Let's keep the better backs (Foster and LJ) thread separate from the backs who won't even start a month from now(Gore).

 

[jurb26]

I own Westy in 2 leagues and there isn't a soul in either that would give me LJ for that pile of damaged goods. Jurb.. you're either full of hot air or really bad at fantasy football. At this point I'm thinkin' you're not the latter, but just refuse to admit it when you're wrong. I'm not sure what you have against the guy, but that certain something is seriously blinding you from reality.

I'm sure this is easy for you to say after LJ's big week. We'll see at the end of the year however. Sure, I've been wrong before and will be again. That is the nature of FF. There is no hot air or hate towards LJ on my end. You guys are the only ones that seem intent on creating it. I am a big PSU fan and have always liked LJ. It clearly offends the LJ owners when anyone sees him outside the very elite of FF for some reason.

 

[RKMoney]

so who still thinks LJ is a second tier/fantasy bush back now? Please raise your hand.

 

[Tong Po]

Whether or not you are able to replace a RB that is a late scratch is irrelevant. You said and I quote "I would still take Westy and his backup over LJ". I assume you mean... that if an owner offered you Westbrook and whoever you perceive his handcuff to be for Larry Johnson, you would ACCEPT that trade. I translate that as you believing the Eagles RB position is more valuable than LJ. Am I missing something?

No, I would take Westy/Philly handcuff over LJ/KC handcuff. That is not what I was refering to at first however. I really don't see how that is anydifferent than saying I would take Westy over LJ though. The handcuffs are basically throw ins.

So you would rather have a dinged up Westbrook, who could get scratched from the line up at any moment, and a back up who might get 10 touches a game with Westy on the shelf... over a currently healthy Larry Johnson who will touch the ball 30 times a game??? I think you've argued your position on LJ for so long now you can't look back. At this point its just clouding your judgement dude.

 

[RKMoney]

Whether or not you are able to replace a RB that is a late scratch is irrelevant. You said and I quote "I would still take Westy and his backup over LJ". I assume you mean... that if an owner offered you Westbrook and whoever you perceive his handcuff to be for Larry Johnson, you would ACCEPT that trade. I translate that as you believing the Eagles RB position is more valuable than LJ. Am I missing something?

No, I would take Westy/Philly handcuff over LJ/KC handcuff. That is not what I was refering to at first however. I really don't see how that is anydifferent than saying I would take Westy over LJ though. The handcuffs are basically throw ins.

So you would rather have a dinged up Westbrook, who could get scratched from the line up at any moment, and a back up who might get 10 touches a game with Westy on the shelf... over a currently healthy Larry Johnson who will touch the ball 30 times a game??? I think you've argued your position on LJ for so long now you can't look back. At this point its just clouding your judgement dude.

Talk about 2nd tier backs, you've got to put Westbrook there since he can't even stay healthy. It's a lock that Westbrook can't play a full season.

 

[One]

For anyone that was wondering why LJ was still in there when the game was already decided...

Q: Why did you leave Larry Johnson in there at 41-0?

EDWARDS: “He wanted a 100-yards and Dee Brown cramped up. We didn’t have a running back. We tried Ronnie Cruz in there and he’s good as a fullback but as a tailback he wasn’t as good.”

The work load for LJ is pilling up again this year. I still don't really understand why it really matterd all that much if Cruz wasn't as good or even poor as a TB when up 41-0 with less than 4 mins to go in the game. LJ has amassed nearly 30 touches per game thus far. That would be almost 480 over the whole season. It will be hard to keep him out of the 1st tier with that kind of workload. It would be hard to keep any RB out with that kind of workload. We'll have to see if he wears down or it continues.

Is this your new argument?terrible.

LT has more carries per game after carrying that load for the last 4 years. he drops to tier 2.

 

[jurb26]

Whether or not you are able to replace a RB that is a late scratch is irrelevant. You said and I quote "I would still take Westy and his backup over LJ". I assume you mean... that if an owner offered you Westbrook and whoever you perceive his handcuff to be for Larry Johnson, you would ACCEPT that trade. I translate that as you believing the Eagles RB position is more valuable than LJ. Am I missing something?

No, I would take Westy/Philly handcuff over LJ/KC handcuff. That is not what I was refering to at first however. I really don't see how that is anydifferent than saying I would take Westy over LJ though. The handcuffs are basically throw ins.

So you would rather have a dinged up Westbrook, who could get scratched from the line up at any moment, and a back up who might get 10 touches a game with Westy on the shelf... over a currently healthy Larry Johnson who will touch the ball 30 times a game??? I think you've argued your position on LJ for so long now you can't look back. At this point its just clouding your judgement dude.

That "dinged up" Westy is far and away the #1 RB in terms of PPG right now. Even though he has been playing as you say, DINGED UP. He should be fine after a week of rest as the swelling in his knee just got a bit too scary for Philly to want to risk anymore.

 

[jurb26]

For anyone that was wondering why LJ was still in there when the game was already decided...

Q: Why did you leave Larry Johnson in there at 41-0?

EDWARDS: “He wanted a 100-yards and Dee Brown cramped up. We didn’t have a running back. We tried Ronnie Cruz in there and he’s good as a fullback but as a tailback he wasn’t as good.”

The work load for LJ is pilling up again this year. I still don't really understand why it really matterd all that much if Cruz wasn't as good or even poor as a TB when up 41-0 with less than 4 mins to go in the game. LJ has amassed nearly 30 touches per game thus far. That would be almost 480 over the whole season. It will be hard to keep him out of the 1st tier with that kind of workload. It would be hard to keep any RB out with that kind of workload. We'll have to see if he wears down or it continues.

Is this your new argument?terrible.

LT has more carries per game after carrying that load for the last 4 years. he drops to tier 2.

I have repetedly expressed my concern with LTs touches over the years. This is not a new arguement for either RB. He has proven capable of handling them year in and year out however. I would not have expected you to have done your research on that however.

 

[One]

Whether or not you are able to replace a RB that is a late scratch is irrelevant. You said and I quote "I would still take Westy and his backup over LJ". I assume you mean... that if an owner offered you Westbrook and whoever you perceive his handcuff to be for Larry Johnson, you would ACCEPT that trade. I translate that as you believing the Eagles RB position is more valuable than LJ. Am I missing something?

No, I would take Westy/Philly handcuff over LJ/KC handcuff. That is not what I was refering to at first however. I really don't see how that is anydifferent than saying I would take Westy over LJ though. The handcuffs are basically throw ins.

So you would rather have a dinged up Westbrook, who could get scratched from the line up at any moment, and a back up who might get 10 touches a game with Westy on the shelf... over a currently healthy Larry Johnson who will touch the ball 30 times a game??? I think you've argued your position on LJ for so long now you can't look back. At this point its just clouding your judgement dude.

 

[One]

Whether or not you are able to replace a RB that is a late scratch is irrelevant. You said and I quote "I would still take Westy and his backup over LJ". I assume you mean... that if an owner offered you Westbrook and whoever you perceive his handcuff to be for Larry Johnson, you would ACCEPT that trade. I translate that as you believing the Eagles RB position is more valuable than LJ. Am I missing something?

No, I would take Westy/Philly handcuff over LJ/KC handcuff. That is not what I was refering to at first however. I really don't see how that is anydifferent than saying I would take Westy over LJ though. The handcuffs are basically throw ins.

So you would rather have a dinged up Westbrook, who could get scratched from the line up at any moment, and a back up who might get 10 touches a game with Westy on the shelf... over a currently healthy Larry Johnson who will touch the ball 30 times a game??? I think you've argued your position on LJ for so long now you can't look back. At this point its just clouding your judgement dude.

That "dinged up" Westy is far and away the #1 RB in terms of PPG right now. Even though he has been playing as you say, DINGED UP. He should be fine after a week of rest as the swelling in his knee just got a bit too scary for Philly to want to risk anymore.

This is laughable. Yes, in a week Westy will be on the cover of Men's Health. Brian Westbrook should have never been brought up.

 

[jurb26]

Whether or not you are able to replace a RB that is a late scratch is irrelevant. You said and I quote "I would still take Westy and his backup over LJ". I assume you mean... that if an owner offered you Westbrook and whoever you perceive his handcuff to be for Larry Johnson, you would ACCEPT that trade. I translate that as you believing the Eagles RB position is more valuable than LJ. Am I missing something?

No, I would take Westy/Philly handcuff over LJ/KC handcuff. That is not what I was refering to at first however. I really don't see how that is anydifferent than saying I would take Westy over LJ though. The handcuffs are basically throw ins.

So you would rather have a dinged up Westbrook, who could get scratched from the line up at any moment, and a back up who might get 10 touches a game with Westy on the shelf... over a currently healthy Larry Johnson who will touch the ball 30 times a game??? I think you've argued your position on LJ for so long now you can't look back. At this point its just clouding your judgement dude.

That "dinged up" Westy is far and away the #1 RB in terms of PPG right now. Even though he has been playing as you say, DINGED UP. He should be fine after a week of rest as the swelling in his knee just got a bit too scary for Philly to want to risk anymore.

This is laughable. Yes, in a week Westy will be on the cover of Men's Health. Brian Westbrook should have never been brought up.

Of course. No one should even be mentioned in the same sentance as the fantasy god known as LJ.... even those currently outscoring him. Oh yeah and Portis is still hurt too.

 

[Bertha]

This thread is more about jealousy and LJ-envy than anything else.

 

[The Jacket]

This thread is so funny.

Kid keeps digging his hole deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper.

Will it ever end?

 

[Hellfire Snail]

Whether or not you are able to replace a RB that is a late scratch is irrelevant. You said and I quote "I would still take Westy and his backup over LJ". I assume you mean... that if an owner offered you Westbrook and whoever you perceive his handcuff to be for Larry Johnson, you would ACCEPT that trade. I translate that as you believing the Eagles RB position is more valuable than LJ. Am I missing something?

No, I would take Westy/Philly handcuff over LJ/KC handcuff. That is not what I was refering to at first however. I really don't see how that is anydifferent than saying I would take Westy over LJ though. The handcuffs are basically throw ins.

So you would rather have a dinged up Westbrook, who could get scratched from the line up at any moment, and a back up who might get 10 touches a game with Westy on the shelf... over a currently healthy Larry Johnson who will touch the ball 30 times a game??? I think you've argued your position on LJ for so long now you can't look back. At this point its just clouding your judgement dude.

That "dinged up" Westy is far and away the #1 RB in terms of PPG right now. Even though he has been playing as you say, DINGED UP. He should be fine after a week of rest as the swelling in his knee just got a bit too scary for Philly to want to risk anymore.

This is laughable. Yes, in a week Westy will be on the cover of Men's Health. Brian Westbrook should have never been brought up.

Of course. No one should even be mentioned in the same sentance as the fantasy god known as LJ.... even those currently outscoring him. Oh yeah and Portis is still hurt too.

Everybody wants to hate on this thread, and yet so many continue to post in it. This is my favorite of the year -- I hope it never dies. I support your position, Jurb. Keep fighting the good fight.

 

[Hellfire Snail]

This thread is more about jealousy and LJ-envy than anything else.

On the contrary, this thread is about LJ owners and their girlish sensitivity. LJ has had one strong week so far this year, why would I envy that?

 

[jurb26]

Whether or not you are able to replace a RB that is a late scratch is irrelevant. You said and I quote "I would still take Westy and his backup over LJ". I assume you mean... that if an owner offered you Westbrook and whoever you perceive his handcuff to be for Larry Johnson, you would ACCEPT that trade. I translate that as you believing the Eagles RB position is more valuable than LJ. Am I missing something?

No, I would take Westy/Philly handcuff over LJ/KC handcuff. That is not what I was refering to at first however. I really don't see how that is anydifferent than saying I would take Westy over LJ though. The handcuffs are basically throw ins.

So you would rather have a dinged up Westbrook, who could get scratched from the line up at any moment, and a back up who might get 10 touches a game with Westy on the shelf... over a currently healthy Larry Johnson who will touch the ball 30 times a game??? I think you've argued your position on LJ for so long now you can't look back. At this point its just clouding your judgement dude.

That "dinged up" Westy is far and away the #1 RB in terms of PPG right now. Even though he has been playing as you say, DINGED UP. He should be fine after a week of rest as the swelling in his knee just got a bit too scary for Philly to want to risk anymore.

This is laughable. Yes, in a week Westy will be on the cover of Men's Health. Brian Westbrook should have never been brought up.

Of course. No one should even be mentioned in the same sentance as the fantasy god known as LJ.... even those currently outscoring him. Oh yeah and Portis is still hurt too.

Everybody wants to hate on this thread, and yet so many continue to post in it. This is my favorite of the year -- I hope it never dies. I support your position, Jurb. Keep fighting the good fight.

It has become quite entertaining.

 

[Chase Stuart]

LJ has more FPs than Tomlinson this year. This was probably mentioned already, though.

 

[Bertha]

This thread is more about jealousy and LJ-envy than anything else.

On the contrary, this thread is about LJ owners and their girlish sensitivity. LJ has had one strong week so far this year, why would I envy that?

You keep thinking that guy -- he's produced 20+ pts/week in each of my leagues. You're delusional.

 

[Hellfire Snail]

This thread is more about jealousy and LJ-envy than anything else.

On the contrary, this thread is about LJ owners and their girlish sensitivity. LJ has had one strong week so far this year, why would I envy that?

You keep thinking that guy -- he's produced 20+ pts/week in each of my leagues. You're delusional.

Oh, you own LJ? The first two weeks of the season, he amassed over a hundred yards of total yardage with zero tds. So did Warrick Dunn. So long as you play in a head-to-head league, to say LJ has been dominant thus far is delusional.

 

[Tong Po]

Whether or not you are able to replace a RB that is a late scratch is irrelevant. You said and I quote "I would still take Westy and his backup over LJ". I assume you mean... that if an owner offered you Westbrook and whoever you perceive his handcuff to be for Larry Johnson, you would ACCEPT that trade. I translate that as you believing the Eagles RB position is more valuable than LJ. Am I missing something?

No, I would take Westy/Philly handcuff over LJ/KC handcuff. That is not what I was refering to at first however. I really don't see how that is anydifferent than saying I would take Westy over LJ though. The handcuffs are basically throw ins.

So you would rather have a dinged up Westbrook, who could get scratched from the line up at any moment, and a back up who might get 10 touches a game with Westy on the shelf... over a currently healthy Larry Johnson who will touch the ball 30 times a game??? I think you've argued your position on LJ for so long now you can't look back. At this point its just clouding your judgement dude.

That "dinged up" Westy is far and away the #1 RB in terms of PPG right now. Even though he has been playing as you say, DINGED UP. He should be fine after a week of rest as the swelling in his knee just got a bit too scary for Philly to want to risk anymore.

Right... and I guess the swelling in his knee will just disappear with a week of rest. I'm of the opinion that when a player is scratched from the line up before kickoff... it's safe to say he's DINGED UP. But that's just me.

 

[Bertha]

This thread is more about jealousy and LJ-envy than anything else.

On the contrary, this thread is about LJ owners and their girlish sensitivity. LJ has had one strong week so far this year, why would I envy that?

You keep thinking that guy -- he's produced 20+ pts/week in each of my leagues. You're delusional.

Oh, you own LJ? The first two weeks of the season, he amassed a over a hundred yards of total yardage with zero tds. So did Warrick Dunn. So long as you play in a head-to-head league, to say LJ has been dominant thus far is delusional.

It's all relative -- I can't help it if you play in a non-PPR league that doesn't offer enough pts for yardage.

 

[corpcow]

Information overload?

No. Information underload.

 

[jurb26]

Right... and I guess the swelling in his knee will just disappear with a week of rest. I'm of the opinion that when a player is scratched from the line up before kickoff... it's safe to say he's DINGED UP. But that's just me.

OK, you are more than welcome to that belief. What do your beliefs say about that same "Dinged up" RB out producing LJ though?

 

[shadow2k]

This thread is more about jealousy and LJ-envy than anything else.

On the contrary, this thread is about LJ owners and their girlish sensitivity. LJ has had one strong week so far this year, why would I envy that?

You keep thinking that guy -- he's produced 20+ pts/week in each of my leagues. You're delusional.

Oh, you own LJ? The first two weeks of the season, he amassed over a hundred yards of total yardage with zero tds. So did Warrick Dunn. So long as you play in a head-to-head league, to say LJ has been dominant thus far is delusional.

Well, these are their weekly RB rankings in my league:LJ137BYE1Westbrook631INJDunn hasn't even cracked the top 20.

 

[corpcow]

Well, these are their weekly RB rankings in my league:LJ137BYE1Westbrook631INJDunn hasn't even cracked the top 20.

For my league, Dunn was #9 in both week 1 and 2. What is your scoring?

 

[Hellfire Snail]

This thread is more about jealousy and LJ-envy than anything else.

On the contrary, this thread is about LJ owners and their girlish sensitivity. LJ has had one strong week so far this year, why would I envy that?

You keep thinking that guy -- he's produced 20+ pts/week in each of my leagues. You're delusional.

Oh, you own LJ? The first two weeks of the season, he amassed over a hundred yards of total yardage with zero tds. So did Warrick Dunn. So long as you play in a head-to-head league, to say LJ has been dominant thus far is delusional.

Well, these are their weekly RB rankings in my league:LJ137BYE1Westbrook631INJDunn hasn't even cracked the top 20.

Who were the RB's ahead of Dunn in week 1? Does he lose points for being a Falcon?

 

[Tong Po]

Right... and I guess the swelling in his knee will just disappear with a week of rest. I'm of the opinion that when a player is scratched from the line up before kickoff... it's safe to say he's DINGED UP. But that's just me.

OK, you are more than welcome to that belief. What do your beliefs say about that same "Dinged up" RB out producing LJ though?

Well my point is... a guy can't help you if he doesn't play. I don't care if Westbrook scored 40 fantasy points in Week 3. He scored ZERO in Week 4. Kind of screws your team up a little doesn't it? Or maybe you don't play in head to head leagues. Let's try looking forward instead of backwards... shall we?

 

[shadow2k]

This thread is more about jealousy and LJ-envy than anything else.

On the contrary, this thread is about LJ owners and their girlish sensitivity. LJ has had one strong week so far this year, why would I envy that?

You keep thinking that guy -- he's produced 20+ pts/week in each of my leagues. You're delusional.

Oh, you own LJ? The first two weeks of the season, he amassed over a hundred yards of total yardage with zero tds. So did Warrick Dunn. So long as you play in a head-to-head league, to say LJ has been dominant thus far is delusional.

Well, these are their weekly RB rankings in my league:LJ137BYE1Westbrook631INJDunn hasn't even cracked the top 20.

Who were the RB's ahead of Dunn in week 1? Does he lose points for being a Falcon?

Week 1 RB's...Gore (26.6pts)FTaylorRBrownCTaylorLTWestbrookTHenryBarberEdgeBushMBellRJohnsonLJJJonesSJacksonDRhodesAGreenWParkerJLewisCPortisDunn (9.9pts)RB Scoring:20yds Rush/Rec = 1ptRush/Rec TD = 6ptPPR.1pt/rushFumble = -1ptProbably PPR throwing it off compared to some of you I guess.

 

[jurb26]

Right... and I guess the swelling in his knee will just disappear with a week of rest. I'm of the opinion that when a player is scratched from the line up before kickoff... it's safe to say he's DINGED UP. But that's just me.

OK, you are more than welcome to that belief. What do your beliefs say about that same "Dinged up" RB out producing LJ though?

Well my point is... a guy can't help you if he doesn't play. I don't care if Westbrook scored 40 fantasy points in Week 3. He scored ZERO in Week 4. Kind of screws your team up a little doesn't it? Or maybe you don't play in head to head leagues. Let's try looking forward instead of backwards... shall we?

The timing of Westy no plalying was rare last night and probably did effect his owenrs. Guys being pulled that late and on Mon night are rare though. More times than not, you will be replacing the injured player with another on your roster. Why is that so hard to understand?

 

[shadow2k]

Right... and I guess the swelling in his knee will just disappear with a week of rest. I'm of the opinion that when a player is scratched from the line up before kickoff... it's safe to say he's DINGED UP. But that's just me.

OK, you are more than welcome to that belief. What do your beliefs say about that same "Dinged up" RB out producing LJ though?

Well my point is... a guy can't help you if he doesn't play. I don't care if Westbrook scored 40 fantasy points in Week 3. He scored ZERO in Week 4. Kind of screws your team up a little doesn't it? Or maybe you don't play in head to head leagues. Let's try looking forward instead of backwards... shall we?

The timing of Westy no plalying was rare last night and probably did effect his owenrs. Guys being pulled that late and on Mon night are rare though. More times than not, you will be replacing the injured player with another on your roster. Why is that so hard to understand?

That the guy you replace him with won't be as good...like Buckhalter last night? And that's assuming you spent the draft pick to get him, and the roster spot to keep him. Or would you have had Moats instead? Guy doesn't even have a clear handcuff, and neither did well in his place.This is all assuming you sit by your comp an hour before the game to be able to make that change. If it had happened on a Sunday early game...I'd guess a lot of owners still would have gotten screwed.