Laugh at my pain, I hate our realtor (1 Viewer)

[jon_mx]

I don't see the problem. You are #####ing that you have to pay someone the price you signed a contract to pay them?

at the end of the day, the house is sold. The deal is going to close. You signed a contract with an agent where you said that you would pay them 6%. You contacting the buyer has nothing to do with the contract that you signed.

If you felt that the realtor wasn't doing what they needed to do, you needed to fire them...but, they still would have been entitled to the 6%, as your agent initially found guy who you are under contract with.

I don't think you have any recourse outside of filing a complaint with the board and #####ing on an anonymous message board.

My beef is she didn't present the offer, we never know about it except my wife stumbled onto her. We live almost 75 miles away from our home now. I can't stress enough how crazy it is that my wife and this buyer just happened to cross paths, otherwise we never would have known. I agree with you that there isn't much we can do Moleculo, that's why I wanted to post up and get it off my chest and out of my system.

I disagree with Moleculo. May be different in your state, but in this state the Real Estate Commission would take the compliant and then contact the listing broker in charge expecting a response. They publish all the agent mis-deeds in the back of quarterly magazine. I really suspect the listing office would be offering you a full refund in an attempt for this agent not to have their license suspended. Beyond that, the RC has the authority to come and audit both the books and processes of any agency. The BIC will be jumping through hoops to make this right and avoid that rabbit hole. Not presenting an offer is a very serious violation by an agent.

Good luck MOP.

It is kind of funny. People tell him that there is stuff he can do, but he still wants to act like a helpless victim. It seems he goes out of his way to have stuff he can be angry about

 

[moleculo]

I don't see the problem. You are #####ing that you have to pay someone the price you signed a contract to pay them?

at the end of the day, the house is sold. The deal is going to close. You signed a contract with an agent where you said that you would pay them 6%. You contacting the buyer has nothing to do with the contract that you signed.

If you felt that the realtor wasn't doing what they needed to do, you needed to fire them...but, they still would have been entitled to the 6%, as your agent initially found guy who you are under contract with.

I don't think you have any recourse outside of filing a complaint with the board and #####ing on an anonymous message board.

My beef is she didn't present the offer, we never know about it except my wife stumbled onto her. We live almost 75 miles away from our home now. I can't stress enough how crazy it is that my wife and this buyer just happened to cross paths, otherwise we never would have known. I agree with you that there isn't much we can do Moleculo, that's why I wanted to post up and get it off my chest and out of my system.

I disagree with Moleculo. May be different in your state, but in this state the Real Estate Commission would take the compliant and then contact the listing broker in charge expecting a response. They publish all the agent mis-deeds in the back of quarterly magazine. I really suspect the listing office would be offering you a full refund in an attempt for this agent not to have their license suspended. Beyond that, the RC has the authority to come and audit both the books and processes of any agency. The BIC will be jumping through hoops to make this right and avoid that rabbit hole. Not presenting an offer is a very serious violation by an agent.

Good luck MOP.

??? I said he can file a complaint.

I talked to my realtor wife about this. She says not presenting an offer is a really big deal, big enough that the board can pull the realtors license. She also says you should contact the agents broker in charge.

So there's your recourse, MoP...that's what you can andMoPould do. I'm hoping to read an update that you actually did something, as opposed to just complaining here.

 

[Quez]

tl; dc

When is the last time you ate at La Terisita?

Month ago. Good as always.

Incredible donut shop off Busch and North Blvd near Chamberlain High. Was there last week and found it by accident, just go and I'll say no more.

Remember the name?

Nicolas Donut shop

 

[Osaurus]

La Teresita huh? :X . Health inspections show improvement.

 

[jon_mx]

I don't see the problem. You are #####ing that you have to pay someone the price you signed a contract to pay them?

at the end of the day, the house is sold. The deal is going to close. You signed a contract with an agent where you said that you would pay them 6%. You contacting the buyer has nothing to do with the contract that you signed.

If you felt that the realtor wasn't doing what they needed to do, you needed to fire them...but, they still would have been entitled to the 6%, as your agent initially found guy who you are under contract with.

I don't think you have any recourse outside of filing a complaint with the board and #####ing on an anonymous message board.

My beef is she didn't present the offer, we never know about it except my wife stumbled onto her. We live almost 75 miles away from our home now. I can't stress enough how crazy it is that my wife and this buyer just happened to cross paths, otherwise we never would have known. I agree with you that there isn't much we can do Moleculo, that's why I wanted to post up and get it off my chest and out of my system.

I disagree with Moleculo. May be different in your state, but in this state the Real Estate Commission would take the compliant and then contact the listing broker in charge expecting a response. They publish all the agent mis-deeds in the back of quarterly magazine. I really suspect the listing office would be offering you a full refund in an attempt for this agent not to have their license suspended. Beyond that, the RC has the authority to come and audit both the books and processes of any agency. The BIC will be jumping through hoops to make this right and avoid that rabbit hole. Not presenting an offer is a very serious violation by an agent.

Good luck MOP.

??? I said he can file a complaint.

I talked to my realtor wife about this. She says not presenting an offer is a really big deal, big enough that the board can pull the realtors license. She also says you should contact the agents broker in charge.

So there's your recourse, MoP...that's what you can andMoPould do. I'm hoping to read an update that you actually did something, as opposed to just complaining here.

He has been told that since page 1, but he still continues to ##### and whine about his pain.

 

[BassNBrew]

I don't see the problem. You are #####ing that you have to pay someone the price you signed a contract to pay them?

at the end of the day, the house is sold. The deal is going to close. You signed a contract with an agent where you said that you would pay them 6%. You contacting the buyer has nothing to do with the contract that you signed.

If you felt that the realtor wasn't doing what they needed to do, you needed to fire them...but, they still would have been entitled to the 6%, as your agent initially found guy who you are under contract with.

I don't think you have any recourse outside of filing a complaint with the board and #####ing on an anonymous message board.

My beef is she didn't present the offer, we never know about it except my wife stumbled onto her. We live almost 75 miles away from our home now. I can't stress enough how crazy it is that my wife and this buyer just happened to cross paths, otherwise we never would have known. I agree with you that there isn't much we can do Moleculo, that's why I wanted to post up and get it off my chest and out of my system.

I disagree with Moleculo. May be different in your state, but in this state the Real Estate Commission would take the compliant and then contact the listing broker in charge expecting a response. They publish all the agent mis-deeds in the back of quarterly magazine. I really suspect the listing office would be offering you a full refund in an attempt for this agent not to have their license suspended. Beyond that, the RC has the authority to come and audit both the books and processes of any agency. The BIC will be jumping through hoops to make this right and avoid that rabbit hole. Not presenting an offer is a very serious violation by an agent.

Good luck MOP.

??? I said he can file a complaint.

I talked to my realtor wife about this. She says not presenting an offer is a really big deal, big enough that the board can pull the realtors license. She also says you should contact the agents broker in charge.

So there's your recourse, MoP...that's what you can andMoPould do. I'm hoping to read an update that you actually did something, as opposed to just complaining here.

He has been told that since page 1, but he still continues to ##### and whine about his pain.

When I was reading the thread I saw a mention of the Real Estate Commission but took it as a ho hum solution based on what I read. As Moleculo said, it's a big deal.

 

[BassNBrew]

I don't see the problem. You are #####ing that you have to pay someone the price you signed a contract to pay them?

at the end of the day, the house is sold. The deal is going to close. You signed a contract with an agent where you said that you would pay them 6%. You contacting the buyer has nothing to do with the contract that you signed.

If you felt that the realtor wasn't doing what they needed to do, you needed to fire them...but, they still would have been entitled to the 6%, as your agent initially found guy who you are under contract with.

I don't think you have any recourse outside of filing a complaint with the board and #####ing on an anonymous message board.

My beef is she didn't present the offer, we never know about it except my wife stumbled onto her. We live almost 75 miles away from our home now. I can't stress enough how crazy it is that my wife and this buyer just happened to cross paths, otherwise we never would have known. I agree with you that there isn't much we can do Moleculo, that's why I wanted to post up and get it off my chest and out of my system.

I disagree with Moleculo. May be different in your state, but in this state the Real Estate Commission would take the compliant and then contact the listing broker in charge expecting a response. They publish all the agent mis-deeds in the back of quarterly magazine. I really suspect the listing office would be offering you a full refund in an attempt for this agent not to have their license suspended. Beyond that, the RC has the authority to come and audit both the books and processes of any agency. The BIC will be jumping through hoops to make this right and avoid that rabbit hole. Not presenting an offer is a very serious violation by an agent.

Good luck MOP.

??? I said he can file a complaint.

I talked to my realtor wife about this. She says not presenting an offer is a really big deal, big enough that the board can pull the realtors license. She also says you should contact the agents broker in charge.

So there's your recourse, MoP...that's what you can andMoPould do. I'm hoping to read an update that you actually did something, as opposed to just complaining here.

You said board which would lead one to believe Board of Realtors, but maybe you didn't mean that. That's an option, but the Real Estate Commission is the better option (at least in my state). Here's what I would do if I was MOP and this happened to me in my state.

1. Contact a lawyer and not take advice from a message board.

2. Contact the BIC. Explain the seriousness of not having an offer presented and how you were damaged (extra carry costs, etc). Tell the BIC in a calm and collective manner that they can make it right or that you will file a compliant with the Real Estate Commission.

 

[comfortably numb]

Agreed with the above but I believe he mentioned this agent is co-BIC and when he brought it up to the other co-BIC she was breast feeding her baby and said something something something tuna fish something something

 

[James Daulton]

Are lawyers and realtors the two biggest necessary evils we have in this country?

 

[John Bender]

Agents - how bad did my Real EState Agent hate me?

I looked at houses for 6 months...was looking at purchasing something around 360,000 dollars and after putting offers in twice (I was well qualified buyer with 20% down), the inspections came back with some bad stuff that I wanted fix or compensation for.

Since I didn't NEED to buy a house, I walked away from both deals when they refused to handle the issues. They weren't unfixable or too expensive, but again, I didn't NEED to buy a home and was just looking for a great deal.

So I walked away twice. I always wonder how much she hated me? We didn't spend too much time together and I was a pain in the ### about reading deal paperwork, always looking at every word and questioning it. I must have been a huge pain in the ###? Just curious really.

Any reason not to prep my next agent when I resume my search about my position in not needing a home so I will be hunting for a great deal and probably asking for a lot?

 

[comfortably numb]

Agents - how bad did my Real EState Agent hate me?

I looked at houses for 6 months...was looking at purchasing something around 360,000 dollars and after putting offers in twice (I was well qualified buyer with 20% down), the inspections came back with some bad stuff that I wanted fix or compensation for.

Since I didn't NEED to buy a house, I walked away from both deals when they refused to handle the issues. They weren't unfixable or too expensive, but again, I didn't NEED to buy a home and was just looking for a great deal.

So I walked away twice. I always wonder how much she hated me? We didn't spend too much time together and I was a pain in the ### about reading deal paperwork, always looking at every word and questioning it. I must have been a huge pain in the ###? Just curious really.

Any reason not to prep my next agent when I resume my search about my position in not needing a home so I will be hunting for a great deal and probably asking for a lot?

eh

par for the course to be honest.

More of an annoyance....hate is more reserved when you do your job as an agent and buyer walks away from a house and buys another house with another agent.

 

[BassNBrew]

Agents - how bad did my Real EState Agent hate me?

I looked at houses for 6 months...was looking at purchasing something around 360,000 dollars and after putting offers in twice (I was well qualified buyer with 20% down), the inspections came back with some bad stuff that I wanted fix or compensation for.

Since I didn't NEED to buy a house, I walked away from both deals when they refused to handle the issues. They weren't unfixable or too expensive, but again, I didn't NEED to buy a home and was just looking for a great deal.

So I walked away twice. I always wonder how much she hated me? We didn't spend too much time together and I was a pain in the ### about reading deal paperwork, always looking at every word and questioning it. I must have been a huge pain in the ###? Just curious really.

Any reason not to prep my next agent when I resume my search about my position in not needing a home so I will be hunting for a great deal and probably asking for a lot?

We work with people like you all the time. I appreciate knowing it on the front end. I'd just put you mls auto notify and tell you I'm only going to call when I see a good deal that fits the criteria you give me and ask that you call me if you come across something of interest.

 

[John Bender]

Agents - how bad did my Real EState Agent hate me?

I looked at houses for 6 months...was looking at purchasing something around 360,000 dollars and after putting offers in twice (I was well qualified buyer with 20% down), the inspections came back with some bad stuff that I wanted fix or compensation for.

Since I didn't NEED to buy a house, I walked away from both deals when they refused to handle the issues. They weren't unfixable or too expensive, but again, I didn't NEED to buy a home and was just looking for a great deal.

So I walked away twice. I always wonder how much she hated me? We didn't spend too much time together and I was a pain in the ### about reading deal paperwork, always looking at every word and questioning it. I must have been a huge pain in the ###? Just curious really.

Any reason not to prep my next agent when I resume my search about my position in not needing a home so I will be hunting for a great deal and probably asking for a lot?

eh

par for the course to be honest.

More of an annoyance....hate is more reserved when you do your job as an agent and buyer walks away from a house and buys another house with another agent.

Agents - how bad did my Real EState Agent hate me?

I looked at houses for 6 months...was looking at purchasing something around 360,000 dollars and after putting offers in twice (I was well qualified buyer with 20% down), the inspections came back with some bad stuff that I wanted fix or compensation for.

Since I didn't NEED to buy a house, I walked away from both deals when they refused to handle the issues. They weren't unfixable or too expensive, but again, I didn't NEED to buy a home and was just looking for a great deal.

So I walked away twice. I always wonder how much she hated me? We didn't spend too much time together and I was a pain in the ### about reading deal paperwork, always looking at every word and questioning it. I must have been a huge pain in the ###? Just curious really.

Any reason not to prep my next agent when I resume my search about my position in not needing a home so I will be hunting for a great deal and probably asking for a lot?

We work with people like you all the time. I appreciate knowing it on the front end. I'd just put you mls auto notify and tell you I'm only going to call when I see a good deal that fits the criteria you give me and ask that you call me if you come across something of interest.

Good to know - thanks guys.

 

[comfortably numb]

Any reason not to prep my next agent when I resume my search about my position in not needing a home so I will be hunting for a great deal and probably asking for a lot?

I would be very upfront and open about this to your future agent. Not to be considerate to the agent but rather so they know their place.

I try to treat my clients with this same urgency.

If you don't NEED to move, don't feel like you HAVE to put an offer on this house if you don't feel comfortable or have reservations.

I probably suck as an agent for this in some regards but imo too many agents are pushing for a client to get a house for the obvious reasons.

Meanwhile I am pointing out things like, "there is a warehousing facility at the end of this road so just bare in mind you will get large trucks on this road" or "are you sure you want to go see this house? I only ask because there is an active train track 20' behind your property line. It's not several times a day but it will be passing by a few times a week."

 

[thecatch]

Agents - how bad did my Real EState Agent hate me?

I looked at houses for 6 months...was looking at purchasing something around 360,000 dollars and after putting offers in twice (I was well qualified buyer with 20% down), the inspections came back with some bad stuff that I wanted fix or compensation for.

Since I didn't NEED to buy a house, I walked away from both deals when they refused to handle the issues. They weren't unfixable or too expensive, but again, I didn't NEED to buy a home and was just looking for a great deal.

So I walked away twice. I always wonder how much she hated me? We didn't spend too much time together and I was a pain in the ### about reading deal paperwork, always looking at every word and questioning it. I must have been a huge pain in the ###? Just curious really.

Any reason not to prep my next agent when I resume my search about my position in not needing a home so I will be hunting for a great deal and probably asking for a lot?

ehpar for the course to be honest.

More of an annoyance....hate is more reserved when you do your job as an agent and buyer walks away from a house and buys another house with another agent.

Agents - how bad did my Real EState Agent hate me?

I looked at houses for 6 months...was looking at purchasing something around 360,000 dollars and after putting offers in twice (I was well qualified buyer with 20% down), the inspections came back with some bad stuff that I wanted fix or compensation for.

Since I didn't NEED to buy a house, I walked away from both deals when they refused to handle the issues. They weren't unfixable or too expensive, but again, I didn't NEED to buy a home and was just looking for a great deal.

So I walked away twice. I always wonder how much she hated me? We didn't spend too much time together and I was a pain in the ### about reading deal paperwork, always looking at every word and questioning it. I must have been a huge pain in the ###? Just curious really.

Any reason not to prep my next agent when I resume my search about my position in not needing a home so I will be hunting for a great deal and probably asking for a lot?

We work with people like you all the time. I appreciate knowing it on the front end. I'd just put you mls auto notify and tell you I'm only going to call when I see a good deal that fits the criteria you give me and ask that you call me if you come across something of interest.

Good to know - thanks guys.

If you are that sophisticated I'd really consider doing something like Redfin as a buyer. I found my own house, negotiated terms, and understood the paperwork far better than my agent did and she ended up walking away with a 5 figure check for doing nothing. I understand that a full service realtor may be useful to some people but if you are the type that is picking apart all the deal provisions and understands your rights, you should take advantage of the opportunity to save some $$ IMO.

 

[comfortably numb]

Agents - how bad did my Real EState Agent hate me?

I looked at houses for 6 months...was looking at purchasing something around 360,000 dollars and after putting offers in twice (I was well qualified buyer with 20% down), the inspections came back with some bad stuff that I wanted fix or compensation for.

Since I didn't NEED to buy a house, I walked away from both deals when they refused to handle the issues. They weren't unfixable or too expensive, but again, I didn't NEED to buy a home and was just looking for a great deal.

So I walked away twice. I always wonder how much she hated me? We didn't spend too much time together and I was a pain in the ### about reading deal paperwork, always looking at every word and questioning it. I must have been a huge pain in the ###? Just curious really.

Any reason not to prep my next agent when I resume my search about my position in not needing a home so I will be hunting for a great deal and probably asking for a lot?

ehpar for the course to be honest.

More of an annoyance....hate is more reserved when you do your job as an agent and buyer walks away from a house and buys another house with another agent.

Agents - how bad did my Real EState Agent hate me?

I looked at houses for 6 months...was looking at purchasing something around 360,000 dollars and after putting offers in twice (I was well qualified buyer with 20% down), the inspections came back with some bad stuff that I wanted fix or compensation for.

Since I didn't NEED to buy a house, I walked away from both deals when they refused to handle the issues. They weren't unfixable or too expensive, but again, I didn't NEED to buy a home and was just looking for a great deal.

So I walked away twice. I always wonder how much she hated me? We didn't spend too much time together and I was a pain in the ### about reading deal paperwork, always looking at every word and questioning it. I must have been a huge pain in the ###? Just curious really.

Any reason not to prep my next agent when I resume my search about my position in not needing a home so I will be hunting for a great deal and probably asking for a lot?

We work with people like you all the time. I appreciate knowing it on the front end. I'd just put you mls auto notify and tell you I'm only going to call when I see a good deal that fits the criteria you give me and ask that you call me if you come across something of interest.

Good to know - thanks guys.

If you are that sophisticated I'd really consider doing something like Redfin as a buyer. I found my own house, negotiated terms, and understood the paperwork far better than my agent did and she ended up walking away with a 5 figure check for doing nothing. I understand that a full service realtor may be useful to some people but if you are the type that is picking apart all the deal provisions and understands your rights, you should take advantage of the opportunity to save some $$ IMO.

I'm not familiar with that site but agree, if you are savvy enough where you know a good deal and can handle most RE matters on your own and can somehow save yourself money by not using a buyers agent go for it.

 

[John Bender]

Essentially what's Redfin? If I went no agent, wouldn't I still need a closing attorney, have to coordinate title insurance on my own, etc? Not saying I couldn't do all that.

And the only thing I'd likely save is 3% commission in closing costs, correct?

Any tips for looking for homes where I could get the closing costs at least partially covered by the seller? What types of sellers would typically be open to that as part of negotiation? Not something I'm looking for, but I keep hearing stories of hard bargainers getting their closing costs helped with.

 

[Mookie]

My sister is a realtor in Miami, and she works with Keller Williams. Uh .... sorry?

There are actually over 200 agents in that office, and I'm pretty sure it's not her (she sells more pricey stuff out of Biscayne Park). Let me know if you want to contact her and I will PM contact info. She might have some suggestions for you.

 

[comfortably numb]

Essentially what's Redfin? If I went no agent, wouldn't I still need a closing attorney, have to coordinate title insurance on my own, etc? Not saying I couldn't do all that.

And the only thing I'd likely save is 3% commission in closing costs, correct?

Any tips for looking for homes where I could get the closing costs at least partially covered by the seller? What types of sellers would typically be open to that as part of negotiation? Not something I'm looking for, but I keep hearing stories of hard bargainers getting their closing costs helped with.

Are you wanting the seller to PAY your closing costs or the seller to allow you to add your closing costs into the mortgage?

The attorney or mortgage company should handle the title stuff as an agent i hardly deal with the title company.

More like the attorney or lender letting me know they title search was purchased or has returned.

That's really it

I don't think there is THAT much savings without a buyers agent being they get paid from the seller unless you are able to get the seller's agent of the house to give you a better price on the house and agree that the sellers agent is only getting the 3% and the 3% that was supposed to go to the buyers agent can be reduced on the cost of the house.

 

[thecatch]

Essentially what's Redfin? If I went no agent, wouldn't I still need a closing attorney, have to coordinate title insurance on my own, etc? Not saying I couldn't do all that.

And the only thing I'd likely save is 3% commission in closing costs, correct?

Any tips for looking for homes where I could get the closing costs at least partially covered by the seller? What types of sellers would typically be open to that as part of negotiation? Not something I'm looking for, but I keep hearing stories of hard bargainers getting their closing costs helped with.

Redfin actually provides you with an agent but they aren't really there to do anything other than to set up viewings for houses you found, be an intermediary for communications with the sellers agent m, and make sure you get all the right deal paperwork signed. They still collect the buyer's commission but they refund some of that money back to you.

Don't forget to shop around for lenders too. We ended up playing a couple major banks off each other and eventually the lender we selected was willing to cover our closing costs so we really didn't have any.

 

[sbonomo]

MOP - I am somewhat slow for the rest of the year and would benefit greatly if you make this way more dramatic by going MOP on the agent. Further, she truly sound like a terrible person so I think she actually deserves what is about to come her way. Thank you in advance for the entertainment.

 

[Zegras11]

Agents - how bad did my Real EState Agent hate me?

I looked at houses for 6 months...was looking at purchasing something around 360,000 dollars and after putting offers in twice (I was well qualified buyer with 20% down), the inspections came back with some bad stuff that I wanted fix or compensation for.

Since I didn't NEED to buy a house, I walked away from both deals when they refused to handle the issues. They weren't unfixable or too expensive, but again, I didn't NEED to buy a home and was just looking for a great deal.

So I walked away twice. I always wonder how much she hated me? We didn't spend too much time together and I was a pain in the ### about reading deal paperwork, always looking at every word and questioning it. I must have been a huge pain in the ###? Just curious really.

Any reason not to prep my next agent when I resume my search about my position in not needing a home so I will be hunting for a great deal and probably asking for a lot?

I was a buyers agent for a year. I go over all of this before we even go out. I now teach a class on it.So many problems can be avoiding by discussing everything up front.

By doing this and then following through with what I say, my referral biz is pretty sick year two.

Buying is a process and I have to work on your terms no matter what they are. When I know those upfront, no reason for me to get upset because I know what to expect. I can help you find that type of agent if you are interested.

 

[jon_mx]

I don't see the problem. You are #####ing that you have to pay someone the price you signed a contract to pay them?

at the end of the day, the house is sold. The deal is going to close. You signed a contract with an agent where you said that you would pay them 6%. You contacting the buyer has nothing to do with the contract that you signed.

If you felt that the realtor wasn't doing what they needed to do, you needed to fire them...but, they still would have been entitled to the 6%, as your agent initially found guy who you are under contract with.

I don't think you have any recourse outside of filing a complaint with the board and #####ing on an anonymous message board.

My beef is she didn't present the offer, we never know about it except my wife stumbled onto her. We live almost 75 miles away from our home now. I can't stress enough how crazy it is that my wife and this buyer just happened to cross paths, otherwise we never would have known. I agree with you that there isn't much we can do Moleculo, that's why I wanted to post up and get it off my chest and out of my system.

I disagree with Moleculo. May be different in your state, but in this state the Real Estate Commission would take the compliant and then contact the listing broker in charge expecting a response. They publish all the agent mis-deeds in the back of quarterly magazine. I really suspect the listing office would be offering you a full refund in an attempt for this agent not to have their license suspended. Beyond that, the RC has the authority to come and audit both the books and processes of any agency. The BIC will be jumping through hoops to make this right and avoid that rabbit hole. Not presenting an offer is a very serious violation by an agent.

Good luck MOP.

??? I said he can file a complaint.

I talked to my realtor wife about this. She says not presenting an offer is a really big deal, big enough that the board can pull the realtors license. She also says you should contact the agents broker in charge.

So there's your recourse, MoP...that's what you can andMoPould do. I'm hoping to read an update that you actually did something, as opposed to just complaining here.

You said board which would lead one to believe Board of Realtors, but maybe you didn't mean that. That's an option, but the Real Estate Commission is the better option (at least in my state). Here's what I would do if I was MOP and this happened to me in my state.

1. Contact a lawyer and not take advice from a message board.

2. Contact the BIC. Explain the seriousness of not having an offer presented and how you were damaged (extra carry costs, etc). Tell the BIC in a calm and collective manner that they can make it right or that you will file a compliant with the Real Estate Commission.

Or have the complaint written out and show it to the broker prior to sending it to the Commission giving him the opportunity to rectify it before closing, ie., reduced commission and reprimand of the agent.

 

[James Daulton]

The thought of paying $24k in realtor fees in a hot market just for selling a $400k house makes me want to puke.

 

[Tom Skerritt]

For those suggesting buying a home without a buyers agent... I believe that buyers agent commissions are usually paid for by the seller. And if you are going to counter that the sale price can be lowered to reduce costs, a good agent should be able to negotiate the lowest sale price. No reason to not have an agent negotiate on your behalf. There is too much emotion that can cloud everyone's judgment. Deals break apart all the time because of hurt feelings. Agents maintain neutrality.

 

[SWC]

I don't see the problem. You are #####ing that you have to pay someone the price you signed a contract to pay them?

at the end of the day, the house is sold. The deal is going to close. You signed a contract with an agent where you said that you would pay them 6%. You contacting the buyer has nothing to do with the contract that you signed.

If you felt that the realtor wasn't doing what they needed to do, you needed to fire them...but, they still would have been entitled to the 6%, as your agent initially found guy who you are under contract with.

I don't think you have any recourse outside of filing a complaint with the board and #####ing on an anonymous message board.

My beef is she didn't present the offer, we never know about it except my wife stumbled onto her. We live almost 75 miles away from our home now. I can't stress enough how crazy it is that my wife and this buyer just happened to cross paths, otherwise we never would have known. I agree with you that there isn't much we can do Moleculo, that's why I wanted to post up and get it off my chest and out of my system.

I disagree with Moleculo. May be different in your state, but in this state the Real Estate Commission would take the compliant and then contact the listing broker in charge expecting a response. They publish all the agent mis-deeds in the back of quarterly magazine. I really suspect the listing office would be offering you a full refund in an attempt for this agent not to have their license suspended. Beyond that, the RC has the authority to come and audit both the books and processes of any agency. The BIC will be jumping through hoops to make this right and avoid that rabbit hole. Not presenting an offer is a very serious violation by an agent.

Good luck MOP.

??? I said he can file a complaint.

I talked to my realtor wife about this. She says not presenting an offer is a really big deal, big enough that the board can pull the realtors license. She also says you should contact the agents broker in charge.

So there's your recourse, MoP...that's what you can andMoPould do. I'm hoping to read an update that you actually did something, as opposed to just complaining here.

You said board which would lead one to believe Board of Realtors, but maybe you didn't mean that. That's an option, but the Real Estate Commission is the better option (at least in my state). Here's what I would do if I was MOP and this happened to me in my state.

1. Contact a lawyer and not take advice from a message board.

2. Contact the BIC. Explain the seriousness of not having an offer presented and how you were damaged (extra carry costs, etc). Tell the BIC in a calm and collective manner that they can make it right or that you will file a compliant with the Real Estate Commission.

Or have the complaint written out and show it to the broker prior to sending it to the Commission giving him the opportunity to rectify it before closing, ie., reduced commission and reprimand of the agent.

maybe some of the lawyer brohans in here can talk on this but i am pretty worried that if you use the threat of a prosecution before a state agency to get money out of someone you might be doing something wrong yourself lawyer brohans to the rescue fill the old swcer in take that to the bank

 

[thecatch]

For those suggesting buying a home without a buyers agent... I believe that buyers agent commissions are usually paid for by the seller. And if you are going to counter that the sale price can be lowered to reduce costs, a good agent should be able to negotiate the lowest sale price. No reason to not have an agent negotiate on your behalf. There is too much emotion that can cloud everyone's judgment. Deals break apart all the time because of hurt feelings. Agents maintain neutrality.

There's reason to skip the full service agent if you feel comfortable negotiating on your own behalf.

 

[Dragons]

tl;dr

-Realtor didn't submit an offer on our home-MOP fluff

-Wife ends up selling the house to our buyers but we still have to pay commission to our realtor.

-More MOP fluff

-Swedish Fish and tuna cans

Sincerely,

Cliff's Notes

Admittedly, I had a f-all time reading the OP, but from what I gathered, you re-involved your agent in the deal after your wife started it. That was your time to cut her loose.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

tl; dc

When is the last time you ate at La Terisita?

Month ago. Good as always.

Incredible donut shop off Busch and North Blvd near Chamberlain High. Was there last week and found it by accident, just go and I'll say no more.

Remember the name?

Nicolas Donut shop

That's it! Insanity, better looking donuts than any place ever. I have had lots of mom n pop places in Los Angeles and Miami. Well worth the price to get a dozen of their extravagant stuff in the front glass case and show up to work, Merry Christmas!

Seriously, check this place out.

 

[Tom Skerritt]

tl;dr

-Realtor didn't submit an offer on our home-MOP fluff

-Wife ends up selling the house to our buyers but we still have to pay commission to our realtor.

-More MOP fluff

-Swedish Fish and tuna cans

Sincerely,

Cliff's Notes

Admittedly, I had a f-all time reading the OP, but from what I gathered, you re-involved your agent in the deal after your wife started it. That was your time to cut her loose.

Right. And the realtor could have sued for breach of contract because she is the one who initially brought the buyers.

To which you could have told her to butt out, or else you will file a complaint for not presenting the offer. Realtor might have walked away at that point.

MOP wouldn't have thought this far ahead.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

My sister is a realtor in Miami, and she works with Keller Williams. Uh .... sorry?

There are actually over 200 agents in that office, and I'm pretty sure it's not her (she sells more pricey stuff out of Biscayne Park). Let me know if you want to contact her and I will PM contact info. She might have some suggestions for you.

My home is actually in Biscayne Park, it's a little suburb of the Shores, we have our own police department for about a 10 block by 15 block section.

My agent is part owner the Coral Gables branch, she really doesn't have a true boss. She is very prominent in the Shores and Biscayne Park, she gets a lot of listings. I found out thru the buyers' agent that she is notorious for doing this. Wish I would have known that, I don't see bad reviews of her on line.

I think some folks are missing the part where I am trying to not fly off the handle. I'm positive this woman is in the wrong, otherwise I wouldn't have fired up the thread to begin with. I would like to get us to the closing table or very close to it and then launch the state investigation. The only person that matters in this whole equation is my wife, god bless her. She has worked tirelessly to get this done and was the biggest factor in getting us out of Miami and up to Jupiter/Juno Beach. I'm going to try and post up some pictures for folks to see but I live on A1A now and every time I feel slightly slighted I just walk across the street into the Atlantic that looks Caribbean at times and I doubt most folks are going to feel the least bit sympathetic.

The key is to call the state but not do it in my usual upset state. Try to play it cool and act dumb and see if there is anything they did to violate state law and go from there. I appreciate all the suggestions and I will report back. But folks when that homes closes I won't have a lot of problems anymore.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

tl;dr

-Realtor didn't submit an offer on our home-MOP fluff

-Wife ends up selling the house to our buyers but we still have to pay commission to our realtor.

-More MOP fluff

-Swedish Fish and tuna cans

Sincerely,

Cliff's Notes

Admittedly, I had a f-all time reading the OP, but from what I gathered, you re-involved your agent in the deal after your wife started it. That was your time to cut her loose.

Right. And the realtor could have sued for breach of contract because she is the one who initially brought the buyers.

To which you could have told her to butt out, or else you will file a complaint for not presenting the offer. Realtor might have walked away at that point.

MOP wouldn't have thought this far ahead.

I know you dislike me and always have and I wanted to cut her loose immediately but my wife was worried about being sued and like I said despite all the BS, my wife felt she did help us find the house initially. I try and remind her she simply had the listing for the home in front of the cottage we were renting, the whole thing was dumb luck from all POV.

I know I should have done a few other things but even as dumb as we are we are gonna come out smelling like roses in the end. I bought this home for a swan song and even got the bank to give me money on top to fix it up, it had equity built in before I even turned the key so again while perhaps I didn't go 30/30 for 350 yds and 4 TDs...we still end up at say 24/30 for 300 yds and 3TD, 1 Int we'll say...EXPLOIT!

 

[Johnny Rock]

tl;dr

-Realtor didn't submit an offer on our home-MOP fluff

-Wife ends up selling the house to our buyers but we still have to pay commission to our realtor.

-More MOP fluff

-Swedish Fish and tuna cans

Sincerely,

Cliff's Notes

Admittedly, I had a f-all time reading the OP, but from what I gathered, you re-involved your agent in the deal after your wife started it. That was your time to cut her loose.

Right. And the realtor could have sued for breach of contract because she is the one who initially brought the buyers.To which you could have told her to butt out, or else you will file a complaint for not presenting the offer. Realtor might have walked away at that point.

MOP wouldn't have thought this far ahead.

I know you dislike me and always have and I wanted to cut her loose immediately but my wife was worried about being sued and like I said despite all the BS, my wife felt she did help us find the house initially. I try and remind her she simply had the listing for the home in front of the cottage we were renting, the whole thing was dumb luck from all POV. I know I should have done a few other things but even as dumb as we are we are gonna come out smelling like roses in the end. I bought this home for a swan song and even got the bank to give me money on top to fix it up, it had equity built in before I even turned the key so again while perhaps I didn't go 30/30 for 350 yds and 4 TDs...we still end up at say 24/30 for 300 yds and 3TD, 1 Int we'll say...EXPLOIT!

Happy for you MOP. Eye on the prize. Still a damn good QBR!

 

[jon_mx]

tl;dr

-Realtor didn't submit an offer on our home-MOP fluff

-Wife ends up selling the house to our buyers but we still have to pay commission to our realtor.

-More MOP fluff

-Swedish Fish and tuna cans

Sincerely,

Cliff's Notes

Admittedly, I had a f-all time reading the OP, but from what I gathered, you re-involved your agent in the deal after your wife started it. That was your time to cut her loose.

Right. And the realtor could have sued for breach of contract because she is the one who initially brought the buyers. To which you could have told her to butt out, or else you will file a complaint for not presenting the offer. Realtor might have walked away at that point.

MOP wouldn't have thought this far ahead.

Realtor contracts always have a clause which gives them a commission of you sell the house within 6 months or a year after termination unless another broker is used.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Drive all the way down into Miami to sign and

And then we find out after we sign that the buyer doesn't have final approval from the bank.

The realtor nowhere to be seen today except to correct the final closing sheet to add $300 in realtor fees

But not until I turned into the Incredible Hulk and threatened to pull the plug because the closing date expired technically on Tue and then magically the buyers are signing tomorrow. We refused to sign the extension.

And the GD attorneys frack everything up. Never had to use one in SoCal, they are as useful as #### on a boar when it comes to real estate. My wife caught almost $1500 in overcharges, my GAWD

 

[xulf]

We did it