Lavar Arrington (1 Viewer)

[Brunell4MVP]

Ruptured achilles. Out for season.

Probably career ending. Can't see how he comes back from another surgery? He's already piecemealed together.

As a Redskin fan yearning for something to celebrate...try as I might, I just can't celebrate this. Tough break for an overhyped player that never lived up to his college reputation.

 

[PMENFAN]

He's 28!! Career over? He's a top physical talent. Even pieced together, he's top notched. His problems haven't been physical, they're mental. Because of his physical prowess, he tends to play outside the position. He makes great plays at times. Unfortunately because of this compulsion, he's usually out of position, causing him to miss what should be easy plays. It's why Gibbs benched, and then got rid of him. He had been performing a lot better in NY, and filling his role a lot better. Putting the team ahead of LaVar.

He'll recover, again, and be back. He's probably got 6-8 solid years left in him, if he decides to continue to put the mental aspects of the game to work to match his physical talents. Career over? He's not one of my favorite players, but by the title of the thread, I thought there was some news that there was some arterial damage and they were going to have to amputate or something. It's an achilles. They'll fix him again, and he'll be back.

 

[QUEZILLA]

I remember hearing Mike Alstott say on the radio that between the 2005 regular season game and 2005 playoff game the Buc's played vs. Washington. It looked to him like Lavar Arrington had put on a solid 30 pounds. Pretty much indirectly saying he took steroids. My point in mentioning this is that guys that juice get hurt more often than guys that don't.

 

[thayman]

I remember hearing Mike Alstott say on the radio that between the 2005 regular season game and 2005 playoff game the Buc's played vs. Washington. It looked to him like Lavar Arrington had put on a solid 30 pounds. Pretty much indirectly saying he took steroids. My point in mentioning this is that guys that juice get hurt more often than guys that don't.

No guys that take steriods typically suffer muscle tears more. The Achilles tear isn't something that would happen directly because of steriods.I wish him the best, always been a big LaVar fan.....

 

[DCThunder]

Time for Lavar to start working full time for Easterns Motors Motors, where your job's your credit, credit!

 

[Brunell4MVP]

He's 28!! Career over? He's a top physical talent. Even pieced together, he's top notched. His problems haven't been physical, they're mental. Because of his physical prowess, he tends to play outside the position. He makes great plays at times. Unfortunately because of this compulsion, he's usually out of position, causing him to miss what should be easy plays. It's why Gibbs benched, and then got rid of him. He had been performing a lot better in NY, and filling his role a lot better. Putting the team ahead of LaVar. He'll recover, again, and be back. He's probably got 6-8 solid years left in him, if he decides to continue to put the mental aspects of the game to work to match his physical talents. Career over? He's not one of my favorite players, but by the title of the thread, I thought there was some news that there was some arterial damage and they were going to have to amputate or something. It's an achilles. They'll fix him again, and he'll be back.

Common dude...admit he's done. He's the oldest 28 ever...going on 50. He...1) lives off athleticism, and he's hurt again, and again, and again.2) too stupid to learn where a LB belongs and thus make it with his brains ... do you realize how dumb you have to be not to figure out the LB position? You can damn near learn the whole thing in pop warner.3) he almost hung it up last year cause of injuries...you think he's got the will power to do it again? This guy has the will power of a salami sammich

 

[Da Guru]

He's 28!! Career over? He's a top physical talent. Even pieced together, he's top notched. His problems haven't been physical, they're mental. Because of his physical prowess, he tends to play outside the position. He makes great plays at times. Unfortunately because of this compulsion, he's usually out of position, causing him to miss what should be easy plays. It's why Gibbs benched, and then got rid of him. He had been performing a lot better in NY, and filling his role a lot better. Putting the team ahead of LaVar. He'll recover, again, and be back. He's probably got 6-8 solid years left in him, if he decides to continue to put the mental aspects of the game to work to match his physical talents. Career over? He's not one of my favorite players, but by the title of the thread, I thought there was some news that there was some arterial damage and they were going to have to amputate or something. It's an achilles. They'll fix him again, and he'll be back.

Common dude...admit he's done. He's the oldest 28 ever...going on 50. He...1) lives off athleticism, and he's hurt again, and again, and again.2) too stupid to learn where a LB belongs and thus make it with his brains ... do you realize how dumb you have to be not to figure out the LB position? You can damn near learn the whole thing in pop warner.3) he almost hung it up last year cause of injuries...you think he's got the will power to do it again? This guy has the will power of a salami sammich

I agree..he is done.

 

[DCThunder]

He's 28!! Career over? He's a top physical talent. Even pieced together, he's top notched. His problems haven't been physical, they're mental. Because of his physical prowess, he tends to play outside the position. He makes great plays at times. Unfortunately because of this compulsion, he's usually out of position, causing him to miss what should be easy plays. It's why Gibbs benched, and then got rid of him. He had been performing a lot better in NY, and filling his role a lot better. Putting the team ahead of LaVar. He'll recover, again, and be back. He's probably got 6-8 solid years left in him, if he decides to continue to put the mental aspects of the game to work to match his physical talents. Career over? He's not one of my favorite players, but by the title of the thread, I thought there was some news that there was some arterial damage and they were going to have to amputate or something. It's an achilles. They'll fix him again, and he'll be back.

Common dude...admit he's done. He's the oldest 28 ever...going on 50. He...1) lives off athleticism, and he's hurt again, and again, and again.2) too stupid to learn where a LB belongs and thus make it with his brains ... do you realize how dumb you have to be not to figure out the LB position? You can damn near learn the whole thing in pop warner.3) he almost hung it up last year cause of injuries...you think he's got the will power to do it again? This guy has the will power of a salami sammich

Plus he's gotten two big signing bonus' from both the Redskins for restructuring and the Giants for signing this season. Yeah, he had to buy out his contact witht eh skins to get free, but he's well spoken, he has a "fierce reputation as a Pro Bowl LB" and he'll do just fine on the outside. And there's always Easterns Motors.

 

[cstu]

He's 28!! Career over? He's a top physical talent. Even pieced together, he's top notched. His problems haven't been physical, they're mental. Because of his physical prowess, he tends to play outside the position. He makes great plays at times. Unfortunately because of this compulsion, he's usually out of position, causing him to miss what should be easy plays. It's why Gibbs benched, and then got rid of him. He had been performing a lot better in NY, and filling his role a lot better. Putting the team ahead of LaVar. He'll recover, again, and be back. He's probably got 6-8 solid years left in him, if he decides to continue to put the mental aspects of the game to work to match his physical talents. Career over? He's not one of my favorite players, but by the title of the thread, I thought there was some news that there was some arterial damage and they were going to have to amputate or something. It's an achilles. They'll fix him again, and he'll be back.

Common dude...admit he's done. He's the oldest 28 ever...going on 50. He...1) lives off athleticism, and he's hurt again, and again, and again.2) too stupid to learn where a LB belongs and thus make it with his brains ... do you realize how dumb you have to be not to figure out the LB position? You can damn near learn the whole thing in pop warner.3) he almost hung it up last year cause of injuries...you think he's got the will power to do it again? This guy has the will power of a salami sammich

I think I've have to agree with you. He'll be a 29 with a total of 64 tackles and 2 sacks the previous 3 years and coming off a major injury. He'll play again but I don't think he'll ever be the player was his first few years.

 

[SSOG]

I'm sad for Lavar. I have fond memories of drafting him in Madden 2004 (although they didn't use his name) and starting him at DE. He made the best DE in the game, and he cost only about a quarter as much as your Jason Taylors or Simeon Rices.

 

[Qbert89]

Time for Lavar to start working full time for Easterns Motors Motors, where your job's your credit, credit!

That is hilarious. I still remember those commercials and I have been removed from DC for about 2-3 years. DC is a haven for Redskin "has-beens and never-will-be."

 

[thayman]

I'm sad for Lavar. I have fond memories of drafting him in Madden 2004 (although they didn't use his name) and starting him at DE. He made the best DE in the game, and he cost only about a quarter as much as your Jason Taylors or Simeon Rices.

God I loved that too....ahhh...fond memories

 

[qimqam]

He's 28!! Career over? He's a top physical talent. Even pieced together, he's top notched. His problems haven't been physical, they're mental. Because of his physical prowess, he tends to play outside the position. He makes great plays at times. Unfortunately because of this compulsion, he's usually out of position, causing him to miss what should be easy plays. It's why Gibbs benched, and then got rid of him. He had been performing a lot better in NY, and filling his role a lot better. Putting the team ahead of LaVar. He'll recover, again, and be back. He's probably got 6-8 solid years left in him, if he decides to continue to put the mental aspects of the game to work to match his physical talents. Career over? He's not one of my favorite players, but by the title of the thread, I thought there was some news that there was some arterial damage and they were going to have to amputate or something. It's an achilles. They'll fix him again, and he'll be back.

This is so wrong it's like you are describing a different player.The guy is a physical wreck! He is nowhere near the player he was 3 years ago when he last played regularly. He is an old and injured 28? And bye the way aside for 2 plays last night he hasn't done a thing this year in fact he has been bad. Did I mention he still has not recovered from the knee injuries and probably never will and know he has to deal with the Achilles rehab.He is done

 

[Avery]

Ruptured achilles. Out for season.

Probably career ending. Can't see how he comes back from another surgery? He's already piecemealed together.

As a Redskin fan yearning for something to celebrate...try as I might, I just can't celebrate this. Tough break for an overhyped player that never lived up to his college reputation.

I'm bedfuddled that you contemplated celebrating a potentially career ending injury for a player simply becuase he left your team.Congratulations on not being calous and hearltess.

Too bad for Arrington for he poised to make major contributions to the Giants defense. A safety and tipped ball on a (pretty) sure TD. The Giants will miss him on defense more than his stats thus far this year would indicate.

 

[Slinger]

For those in IDP's leagues. Think he's worth keeping?

 

[redman]

He's 28!! Career over? He's a top physical talent. Even pieced together, he's top notched. His problems haven't been physical, they're mental. Because of his physical prowess, he tends to play outside the position. He makes great plays at times. Unfortunately because of this compulsion, he's usually out of position, causing him to miss what should be easy plays. It's why Gibbs benched, and then got rid of him. He had been performing a lot better in NY, and filling his role a lot better. Putting the team ahead of LaVar. He'll recover, again, and be back. He's probably got 6-8 solid years left in him, if he decides to continue to put the mental aspects of the game to work to match his physical talents. Career over? He's not one of my favorite players, but by the title of the thread, I thought there was some news that there was some arterial damage and they were going to have to amputate or something. It's an achilles. They'll fix him again, and he'll be back.

This is so wrong it's like you are describing a different player.The guy is a physical wreck! He is nowhere near the player he was 3 years ago when he last played regularly. He is an old and injured 28? And bye the way aside for 2 plays last night he hasn't done a thing this year in fact he has been bad. Did I mention he still has not recovered from the knee injuries and probably never will and know he has to deal with the Achilles rehab.He is done

I think he'll play again in the NFL, but he's not the same player he was nor will he ever be again for the reasons already stated. I think with work he could have been a great outside LB in the 4-3, along the lines of Wilbur Marshall or Derrick Brooks, but he never really developed what he had and his failure to really learn the game has made him nothing more than average or worse now that his athleticism has been negatively affected by that lingering knee injury and now the Achilles.

 

[redman]

For those in IDP's leagues. Think he's worth keeping?

In a word, no. If you have space on your IR, maybe you hold onto him and see, but at the beginning of next season it will have been four years since he entered a season completely healthy and with the expectation of starting all year.

 

[Avery]

As far as his injury, Arrington suffered from Achilles' tendonitis in pre-season, which is a common precusor to a rupture, if I am not mistaken.

FWIW, Arrington said post-game that he wants to be back and believes he'll be back. He also said that he was told by the Giants' team physician that it is an injury that he can come back from and be the same. If you look at Julian Peterson, there is evidence that he can still be a very effective player.

Not that it means everything, but a motivated and driven person tend to do well in rehab where the true recovery from these injuries takes place.

 

[Marvelous]

I heard Mike Ditka on the radio right before the Redskins played the Giants (week 5). Ditka said Lavar can't play a lick. Lavar's stat line against the Redskins: 1 tackle. From PFT during the summer:

POSTED 9:22 a.m. EDT, August 10, 2006LAVAR "WON'T BE 100 PERCENT" THIS YEARAmid reports that Giants linebacker LaVar Arrington's knee is still giving him trouble, there's a growing belief in league circles that Arrington "won't be 100 percent" in 2006.And the words "degenerative knee condition" are now being mentioned in connection with Arrington, suggesting that he might never be much better than he is right now.Arrington's knee, we've heard, raised flags in other cities in the offseason when he was looking for a new team. Eventually, he signed a contract that, while impressive on paper, requires him to be able to perform well in order to unlock the truly big money. Subtracting the $4 million or so in earned but unpaid bonus money he waived with the Redskins in order to hit the free agent market early, Arrington doesn't stand to cash in with the Giants if he can't play at a high level.For the Giants, the contract structure limited their risk, but they still took a chance on Arrington and, by all appearances, they lost.

I think Lavar is near done. I don't see him as a starter anymore, especially after an achilles tear.

 

[Avery]

I heard Mike Ditka on the radio right before the Redskins played the Giants (week 5). Ditka said Lavar can't play a lick. Lavar's stat line against the Redskins: 1 tackle.

I also heard Ditka congratulating Rex Grossman on his great performance in the Bears win over the Cardinals, so I think I'll take what he says with a grain of salt.

 

[PMENFAN]

He's 28!! Career over? He's a top physical talent. Even pieced together, he's top notched. His problems haven't been physical, they're mental. Because of his physical prowess, he tends to play outside the position. He makes great plays at times. Unfortunately because of this compulsion, he's usually out of position, causing him to miss what should be easy plays. It's why Gibbs benched, and then got rid of him. He had been performing a lot better in NY, and filling his role a lot better. Putting the team ahead of LaVar. He'll recover, again, and be back. He's probably got 6-8 solid years left in him, if he decides to continue to put the mental aspects of the game to work to match his physical talents. Career over? He's not one of my favorite players, but by the title of the thread, I thought there was some news that there was some arterial damage and they were going to have to amputate or something. It's an achilles. They'll fix him again, and he'll be back.

This is so wrong it's like you are describing a different player.The guy is a physical wreck! He is nowhere near the player he was 3 years ago when he last played regularly. He is an old and injured 28? And bye the way aside for 2 plays last night he hasn't done a thing this year in fact he has been bad. Did I mention he still has not recovered from the knee injuries and probably never will and know he has to deal with the Achilles rehab.He is done

I think he'll play again in the NFL, but he's not the same player he was nor will he ever be again for the reasons already stated. I think with work he could have been a great outside LB in the 4-3, along the lines of Wilbur Marshall or Derrick Brooks, but he never really developed what he had and his failure to really learn the game has made him nothing more than average or worse now that his athleticism has been negatively affected by that lingering knee injury and now the Achilles.

I agree. I don't think he's been a top flight player, but the Giants front 7 has been solid, and much better than I saw in DC last year. What I expected from him coming out? Not a chance, but to say his career is over is, I think, a stretch and complete hyperbole. Makes me think of Willie McGinest. A #4 pick, nowhere near as highly rated as LaVar, but because he was injured a lot young, his career was proclaimed over by many, and said he'd never develop. Never a superstar, but a very solid, long time NFL player, once he decided to play to his strengths, within the system. Like I said, he's 28, and the difference I see from last to this year is immense. He's not Tedy Bruschi, always in position, but he's far better than he was. I don't think he'll ever be a top NFL LB. I think that's obvious. But, a very solid LB? That's well within reach. Even post injury. Or, he could hang it up. I just prefer to be an optomist, and not wish for a guy to end his career on injury.

 

[dgreen]

Career over? And here I've been waiting for his career to actually start.

 

[Dirk Digler]

stick a fork in 'em.

 

[scratcher]

How does this affect NY defense? Homers?

ETA: Who's the backup? How will he fill in?

 

[fatness]

Time for Lavar to start working full time for Easterns Motors Motors, where your job's your credit, credit!

Or selling TheaterVision with Joe Jacoby.

 

[pinequick]

Ruptured achilles. Out for season.

Probably career ending. Can't see how he comes back from another surgery? He's already piecemealed together.

As a Redskin fan yearning for something to celebrate...try as I might, I just can't celebrate this. Tough break for an overhyped player that never lived up to his college reputation.

I'm bedfuddled that you contemplated celebrating a potentially career ending injury for a player simply becuase he left your team.Congratulations on not being calous and hearltess.

Too bad for Arrington for he poised to make major contributions to the Giants defense. A safety and tipped ball on a (pretty) sure TD. The Giants will miss him on defense more than his stats thus far this year would indicate.

Could we please get off the "holier than thou" kick on this board? I get tired of reading how much more morally-developed some posters are than others. He's not dead--he'll be fine. And a multi-millionaire. Even if he never plays another down. Boo-friggin'-hoo.IMO, I think he'll come back, be a shell of his former self (as noted above, his athleticism is his only asset), and retire for good after one disappointing season.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

Common dude...admit he's done. He's the oldest 28 ever...going on 50.

He...

1) lives off athleticism, and he's hurt again, and again, and again. yeah, and hes the only one in the nfl thats injury prone. westbrook anyone?

2) too stupid to learn where a LB belongs and thus make it with his brains ... do you realize how dumb you have to be not to figure out the LB position? ignorance. easy to say this when you sit on your couch and watch every sunday. playing at the top level is alot different than watching. You can damn near learn the whole thing in pop warner.

3) he almost hung it up last year cause of injuries...you think he's got the will power to do it again? This guy has the will power of a salami sammich justify this claim.

 

[Marc Levin]

Ruptured achilles. Out for season.Probably career ending. Can't see how he comes back from another surgery? He's already piecemealed together.As a Redskin fan yearning for something to celebrate...try as I might, I just can't celebrate this. Tough break for an overhyped player that never lived up to his college reputation.

Ouch - definitely sounds career ending.Marino was never the same and he played QB rather than LB.1

 

[Bizkiteer]

I remember hearing Mike Alstott say on the radio that between the 2005 regular season game and 2005 playoff game the Buc's played vs. Washington. It looked to him like Lavar Arrington had put on a solid 30 pounds. Pretty much indirectly saying he took steroids. My point in mentioning this is that guys that juice get hurt more often than guys that don't.

He put on weight cuz he was injured and couldn't really get a full workout. The man was a physical specimen in college and continued to be in the NFL. No roids for him...

 

[billymays]

I remember hearing Mike Alstott say on the radio that between the 2005 regular season game and 2005 playoff game the Buc's played vs. Washington. It looked to him like Lavar Arrington had put on a solid 30 pounds. Pretty much indirectly saying he took steroids. My point in mentioning this is that guys that juice get hurt more often than guys that don't.

No guys that take steriods typically suffer muscle tears more. The Achilles tear isn't something that would happen directly because of steriods.I wish him the best, always been a big LaVar fan.....

of course achilles tears can happen to anyonebut using steroids or HGH and increasing your muscle size puts more stress on ligaments and tendonsi asked a NFL team doctor about this and he basically called too much muscle "ornamental muscle" and said that players should really avoid being too big...cough cough david boston

 

[WhoDat]

Considering the age; what makes him different on the field and the slow progression of nicks and dings, I would think he is either nearly done or will be severly limited moving forward. He is a physical specimen and built for speed. That injury hampers what made him the player he is/was.

You just don't come back from an Achilles.

Wish him a speedy recovery.

 

[mr. furley]

I heard Mike Ditka on the radio right before the Redskins played the Giants (week 5). Ditka said Lavar can't play a lick. Lavar's stat line against the Redskins: 1 tackle.

I also heard Ditka congratulating Rex Grossman on his great performance in the Bears win over the Cardinals, so I think I'll take what he says with a grain of salt.

i thought only the blindest Bears fans took him seriously. guy's a boob.

 

[Avery]

Ruptured achilles. Out for season.

Probably career ending. Can't see how he comes back from another surgery? He's already piecemealed together.

As a Redskin fan yearning for something to celebrate...try as I might, I just can't celebrate this. Tough break for an overhyped player that never lived up to his college reputation.

I'm bedfuddled that you contemplated celebrating a potentially career ending injury for a player simply becuase he left your team.Congratulations on not being calous and hearltess.

Too bad for Arrington for he poised to make major contributions to the Giants defense. A safety and tipped ball on a (pretty) sure TD. The Giants will miss him on defense more than his stats thus far this year would indicate.

Could we please get off the "holier than thou" kick on this board? I get tired of reading how much more morally-developed some posters are than others. He's not dead--he'll be fine. And a multi-millionaire. Even if he never plays another down. Boo-friggin'-hoo.IMO, I think he'll come back, be a shell of his former self (as noted above, his athleticism is his only asset), and retire for good after one disappointing season.

I simply didn't think a guy having his career and the sport he's played for his entire life potentially taken away from him was a reason to contemplate celebration.Feel free to put my on your ignore list for that...

 

[KID]

But is he HOF material

 

[TankRizzo]

I'd say he's done as a major contributor. He'll hang around for another 3 years or so though.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Considering the age; what makes him different on the field and the slow progression of nicks and dings, I would think he is either nearly done or will be severly limited moving forward. He is a physical specimen and built for speed. That injury hampers what made him the player he is/was. You just don't come back from an Achilles. Wish him a speedy recovery.

Jamir Miller's career ended after his achilles injury. He tore his in preseason after a pro bowl year. He tried to come back, but couldn't.

 

[NinerK]

I'm sad for Lavar. I have fond memories of drafting him in Madden 2004 (although they didn't use his name) and starting him at DE. He made the best DE in the game, and he cost only about a quarter as much as your Jason Taylors or Simeon Rices.

God I loved that too....ahhh...fond memories

I had to You Tube this; such a classic commercial. Very catchy.LaVar in Eastern Motors

Now back to the discussion.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

How does this affect NY defense? Homers?ETA: Who's the backup? How will he fill in?

Probably not much. Except for that sack against Dallas he has pretty much been a ghost in the defense. Neither used as pressure guy or a force in coverage. I could be wrong, I'm just going off my memory of the games. The last couple games have softened by screaming for more blitz packages. So overall I don't think this hurts the Giants D too much. The line is good enough to be studly, the LB's are good enough to protect the second level if the line doesn't get it all done by themselves and the DB's suck.I'm pretty sure that Torbor went in for him.

 

[Delusions Of Adequacy]

Ruptured achilles. Out for season.

Probably career ending. Can't see how he comes back from another surgery? He's already piecemealed together.

As a Redskin fan yearning for something to celebrate...try as I might, I just can't celebrate this. Tough break for an overhyped player that never lived up to his college reputation.

I'm bedfuddled that you contemplated celebrating a potentially career ending injury for a player simply becuase he left your team.Congratulations on not being calous and hearltess.

Too bad for Arrington for he poised to make major contributions to the Giants defense. A safety and tipped ball on a (pretty) sure TD. The Giants will miss him on defense more than his stats thus far this year would indicate.

FF favors the calous and hearltess, my friend

 

[Footballhead]

LaVar just have to learn to play on one leg...and he'll still be good.

 

[sheerterror]

I remember hearing Mike Alstott say on the radio that between the 2005 regular season game and 2005 playoff game the Buc's played vs. Washington. It looked to him like Lavar Arrington had put on a solid 30 pounds. Pretty much indirectly saying he took steroids. My point in mentioning this is that guys that juice get hurt more often than guys that don't.

No guys that take steriods typically suffer muscle tears more. The Achilles tear isn't something that would happen directly because of steriods.I wish him the best, always been a big LaVar fan.....

This is incorrect. Guys that juice suffer tendon and ligament injuries more often than muscular injuries because steroids will increase muscle strength, but tendons won't be nearly as affected. The stronger muscle pulls on the proportionately weaker tendon, and ruptures become very common.

 

[Sleeper 43]

I live in the DC Metro and have had to watch all the skins games during Lavars tenure here. He really is 75% smoke and mirrors. He comes off so arrogant like the " call me Mr Nickels" crap he did this season with the Giants after riding the pine and being injured most of the time for the skins. The guy doesnt give crap about the defensive schemes, he went out there and chased the ball all over the place and when on the field blew the coverage all the time. He is very injury prone.. roids or not, hes prone. If Greg Williams cant covince you to play defense i dont know who will. I'm not sure if most know last season he was benched even when healthy.

Honestly i wouldnt be worked up about the subject if Lavar wasnt so damn arrogant and yet so unproven.

Dude is a cap eater.

 

[redman]

I live in the DC Metro and have had to watch all the skins games during Lavars tenure here. He really is 75% smoke and mirrors. He comes off so arrogant like the " call me Mr Nickels" crap he did this season with the Giants after riding the pine and being injured most of the time for the skins. The guy doesnt give crap about the defensive schemes, he went out there and chased the ball all over the place and when on the field blew the coverage all the time. He is very injury prone.. roids or not, hes prone. If Greg Williams cant covince you to play defense i dont know who will. I'm not sure if most know last season he was benched even when healthy.Honestly i wouldnt be worked up about the subject if Lavar wasnt so damn arrogant and yet so unproven.Dude is a cap eater.

I agree. Even when he was going to Pro Bowls ('01-'03) I felt he was overrated. As you said he ran around and ignored assignments. Occasionally it would yield a highlight reel play that would imply to the casual SportsCenter watcher that he was a stud when in fact he was a very incomplete player. Only one of those years, 2001, was a truly excellent season and that was under Schottenheimer who seemed to best understand how to use him in light of his limitations. Schotty basically let him run around free making plays from the Will position, and used everyone else to funnel traffic his way, not unlike the way that Merriman is used in San Diego. It was a shame for Lavar that that didn't last, but such is life. Marvin Lewis got him to a Pro Bowl the next year by essentially giving up on him as a LB given his lack of discipline and using him almist exclusively to rush the passer as a DE, when he got 11 sacks. Then he was back to his old ways again in 2003 running around, but was on such a bad team that he was essentially the only guy you could have chosen to go to the Pro Bowl. His career unfortunately represents untapped potential more than anything else, but I will also say that his lack of discipline is unfortunately a great reflection of the state of the team under Spurrier. It's no coincidence that when he was finally held accountable by a coaching staff secure enough to stand up to him with Gibbs, he couldn't deal with it and essentially ran away.

 

[Marvelous]

Last year, during his radio show, Gibbs was asked many times about Lavar Arrington and his role on the team. After Arrington made his comment about not knowing what is going on and the coaches don't talk to him, Gibbs stated that Arrington was one of the players he talked to regularly and that he knew exactly what needed to be done to get back onto the field.

Gibbs never elaborated on what that was, but most certainly had to do with studying and learning the defense, practicing, and playing his position.

As far as whether his career is done, they mentioned last night that last week was the first time Arrington participated in all of the defensive practices. I believe the PFT blurb that he has a chronic and potentially degenerative knee problem. Add on an Achilles rupture, and I doubt he ever regains the speed he once possessed. And from his past, it is doubtful he will be a good linebacker based on studying the game and finesse.

 

[gkza]

I agree with someone who said he is more untapped talent than anything. I have been watching college football intensely for most of my life (im 29). In the past 15 years, I would say he was the most dominating and awe inspiring defensive player i can think of. I often recall him hurdling a pulling fullback and then sacking the QB. That PSu team w/ LaVaar, Courtney Brown, and Brandon short was just devastating.

I hope the best for LaVaar. I like the dude. Courtney Brown, I fear he is done and is never ever mentioned as a bust, but he has to be right up there.

It just goes how difficult it is to succeed in this league...my 2 cents on the matter....

 

[bigalgreek]

As a diehard Redskins fan, I love LA. He was a great guy with the fans here and really fun to watch play (at times). I really miss him here in a Redskins uniform and I hate seeing him in Giants blue. I hope his career isn't over, but I'm afraid that it is.

 

[Avery]

From the the Giants.com:

Arrington Lost for Season

By Michael Eisen

SNIP

Arrington wore a blue Giants sweatsuit and a serene expression in the post-game locker room. His injured leg was covered with a high boot and he leaned on a pair of crutches.

Despite the unfortunate circumstance, Arrington pleasantly answered every question from wave after wave of reporters. He simply refused to get down or flash even a hint of anger.

“My father and I have a saying,” Arrington said. “It’s easy to be a good person during good times. But it really shows if you’re a good person when something bad happens to you. Bad things happen to good people to see if you really are a good person. I won’t stop being a good person because I was injured.

“I’m prepared to face the challenge. That’s why I’m even-keel. I’m going to bounce back from it. Whatever goes with it, that’s what I’m going to do.”

Arrington had injury problems his final two seasons in Washington, most notably with his right knee. He played in only four games in 2004. But Arrington said the Achilles injury is unrelated to his past problems.

“This has nothing to do with my knees,” he said. “It’s something that happened. It was my right knee that I had surgery on. I don’t think this is related in any way. Of course, I’m not a doctor.”

Nor is he the retiring type. Although it’s tough to rehabilitate several injuries in a short time span, Arrington has lost no love for the game.

“I still want to play,” he said. “If it was a knee injury, I’d have to seriously consider where I am. But it’s not a knee or anything like that. Dr. (Russell) Warren (the Giants team physician) told me it’s an injury you can come back from and play the same. I’ll get what needs to be done, continue to learn the system and be a support system to my teammates. And when I get an opportunity to get back on the field, I’m going to get out there.”

His attiude facing questions right after his injury is admirable as is his team oriented mindset.Makes me root for the guy to come back.

 

[qimqam]

How does this affect NY defense? Homers?ETA: Who's the backup? How will he fill in?

It doesn't ... I believe Reggie Torbor is the replacement and he will be as good or better than Arrington was this year. He is big 250 and fast

 

[PMENFAN]

Considering the age; what makes him different on the field and the slow progression of nicks and dings, I would think he is either nearly done or will be severly limited moving forward. He is a physical specimen and built for speed. That injury hampers what made him the player he is/was. You just don't come back from an Achilles. Wish him a speedy recovery.

Jamir Miller's career ended after his achilles injury. He tore his in preseason after a pro bowl year. He tried to come back, but couldn't.

Medical technology advances quickly in a decade. ACL's used to be the end of a career, now if it happens early in the year they can play next season. Look at Rodney Harrison. A complete blowout in around game 4 last season, and he's back on the field for game one. How hard do you want to work in PT to come back?

 

[qimqam]

Ruptured achilles. Out for season.Probably career ending. Can't see how he comes back from another surgery? He's already piecemealed together.As a Redskin fan yearning for something to celebrate...try as I might, I just can't celebrate this. Tough break for an overhyped player that never lived up to his college reputation.

Ouch - definitely sounds career ending.Marino was never the same and he played QB rather than LB.1

LT was never the same after blowing out his achilles ... and Arrington is no LT