League fines Nalen $25k (1 Viewer)

[Despyzer]

I grew up with Tom Nalen, I know him well. He is as nice and as charitible a guy as there is. I have no idea what he was thinking here, but I do know that he is not a "piece of ####" or "bag of puke" as described in this thread.

I think they were speaking figuratively.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

I grew up with Tom Nalen, I know him well. He is as nice and as charitible a guy as there is. I have no idea what he was thinking here, but I do know that he is not a "piece of ####" or "bag of puke" as described in this thread.

I've seen this quote attributed to several people, so I don't know for sure who said it, but it applies anyway:"A man is the sum of his actions, of what he has done, of what he can do, Nothing else."That crap he pulled in that game is certainly part of his personal equation.

 

[Slinger]

I grew up with Tom Nalen, I know him well. He is as nice and as charitible a guy as there is. I have no idea what he was thinking here, but I do know that he is not a "piece of ####" or "bag of puke" as described in this thread.

Well hey, if you ever run into him, tell him that everyone in FBG's thinks he's a tool.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Translation of the fine amounts:$10k - "we fined you because we had to"$25k - "we fined you because you're a dirty piece of ####"

 

[Elway Lives]

I would really like to hear Nalen's take on what happened. If he really was trying to take out the guys knees, he sure seemed to do a half-assed job of it. Almost looked like he didn't know it was going to be a spike, although I have no idea why he wouldn't have known.

Take off the homer glasses. TIAwatch the you tube video. He snaps the ball, stands straight up, and then dives for his Olshanksy's knee. If you cant see that, you are blind. plain and simple

Yup. Watched the video. He dove and looked like he barely touched the guy. I'm just saying he had a clear shot, and had he intended to, he could have broken Igor in half at the knees, but he didn't. So if he had decided before the snap he was going to show the world how dirty of a player he is by ending someone's season (which may have been exactly what he was trying to do, I don't know, and neither does anyone but him), he did a half-assed job of it.

 

[Gr00vus]

I realize this might be the non-standard take, but this situation leads me to believe we're enjoying Nalen's last season.

Why would you say that?Back on topic, Nalen should have been suspended for a game as well at least - not only was it dirty, it was just plain stupid.

That cheap shot just doesn't seem like the kind of thing you'd do if you had to line up against that same guy twice every year. I'm really not sure what Nalen was thinking there. Anyone know why he didn't get flagged for a penalty? Did the refs not see it?

Now I understand your original comment, thanks for clarifying.

 

[Gr00vus]

I would really like to hear Nalen's take on what happened. If he really was trying to take out the guys knees, he sure seemed to do a half-assed job of it. Almost looked like he didn't know it was going to be a spike, although I have no idea why he wouldn't have known.

Take off the homer glasses. TIAwatch the you tube video. He snaps the ball, stands straight up, and then dives for his Olshanksy's knee. If you cant see that, you are blind. plain and simple

Yup. Watched the video. He dove and looked like he barely touched the guy. I'm just saying he had a clear shot, and had he intended to, he could have broken Igor in half at the knees, but he didn't. So if he had decided before the snap he was going to show the world how dirty of a player he is by ending someone's season (which may have been exactly what he was trying to do, I don't know, and neither does anyone but him), he did a half-assed job of it.

That's some nice revisionist history there, but I'm not buying. Igor's knees weren't rigid, had they been there'd have been a much better chance he'd have gotten a solid shot on him. Regardless please to be explaining any justification for whatever reason for Nalen's instinct/idea/reaction to dive right at the knees?It's a rhetorical question, there isn't any.

 

[jonessed]

I would really like to hear Nalen's take on what happened. If he really was trying to take out the guys knees, he sure seemed to do a half-assed job of it. Almost looked like he didn't know it was going to be a spike, although I have no idea why he wouldn't have known.

Take off the homer glasses. TIAwatch the you tube video. He snaps the ball, stands straight up, and then dives for his Olshanksy's knee. If you cant see that, you are blind. plain and simple

Yup. Watched the video. He dove and looked like he barely touched the guy. I'm just saying he had a clear shot, and had he intended to, he could have broken Igor in half at the knees, but he didn't. So if he had decided before the snap he was going to show the world how dirty of a player he is by ending someone's season (which may have been exactly what he was trying to do, I don't know, and neither does anyone but him), he did a half-assed job of it.

 

[TLEF316]

I would really like to hear Nalen's take on what happened. If he really was trying to take out the guys knees, he sure seemed to do a half-assed job of it. Almost looked like he didn't know it was going to be a spike, although I have no idea why he wouldn't have known.

Take off the homer glasses. TIAwatch the you tube video. He snaps the ball, stands straight up, and then dives for his Olshanksy's knee. If you cant see that, you are blind. plain and simple

Yup. Watched the video. He dove and looked like he barely touched the guy. I'm just saying he had a clear shot, and had he intended to, he could have broken Igor in half at the knees, but he didn't. So if he had decided before the snap he was going to show the world how dirty of a player he is by ending someone's season (which may have been exactly what he was trying to do, I don't know, and neither does anyone but him), he did a half-assed job of it.

ok, so he's dirty and uncooderinated. gotcha. Cheap shots are allowed, but as long as you miss ending the guy's season, its ok.Thin air up there in colorado i guess. <------------you

 

[switz]

Alot of going on in here.....

Nalen is a dirty player, cheap shots have no place in football... it's no to point that out.

 

[shredhead]

I would really like to hear Nalen's take on what happened. If he really was trying to take out the guys knees, he sure seemed to do a half-assed job of it. Almost looked like he didn't know it was going to be a spike, although I have no idea why he wouldn't have known.

That's not what i saw all.

You should open your eyes then because it is exactly what i saw! If Nalen wanted to hurt Igor then he would have! In my opinion!

 

[shredhead]

I also don't know if it is appropriate for a guy who missed on an apparent attempted cheap shot deserves a bigger fine than the guy who connected on his cheap shot. Oh yes, Igor's shot at Nalen was a cheap shot whether you feel Nalen deserved it or not. I can't argue with the people who believe Nalen should be suspended, you have a legitimate argument. However, Igor was caught red handed (smoking gun you could say) In my opinion, any player who punches another player should get a 1 game suspension no questions asked.

No, Igor's response wasnt a cheap shot. If you do what he did (late dive at a knee after a freaking spike play) you deserve whatever comes your way. A cheap shot, by definition, is an unprovoked attack outside the rules of game. Igor's punches (which hit nalen's helmet, not an unprotected, recently injured body part) were not cheap. Were they illegal? Yes. And as a result, he was fined. However, Nalen was the instigator here and deserves 95% of the blame for the incident. Whether it was intended to injure or just to draw a flag, it was as bush league as bush league gets, and IMO, deserves a suspension.

I agree with you, but Igor deserves a suspension also.

 

[DPRugby]

I also don't know if it is appropriate for a guy who missed on an apparent attempted cheap shot deserves a bigger fine than the guy who connected on his cheap shot. Oh yes, Igor's shot at Nalen was a cheap shot whether you feel Nalen deserved it or not. I can't argue with the people who believe Nalen should be suspended, you have a legitimate argument. However, Igor was caught red handed (smoking gun you could say) In my opinion, any player who punches another player should get a 1 game suspension no questions asked.

No, Igor's response wasnt a cheap shot. If you do what he did (late dive at a knee after a freaking spike play) you deserve whatever comes your way. A cheap shot, by definition, is an unprovoked attack outside the rules of game. Igor's punches (which hit nalen's helmet, not an unprotected, recently injured body part) were not cheap. Were they illegal? Yes. And as a result, he was fined. However, Nalen was the instigator here and deserves 95% of the blame for the incident. Whether it was intended to injure or just to draw a flag, it was as bush league as bush league gets, and IMO, deserves a suspension.

I agree with you, but Igor deserves a suspension also.

The suspension should go to Nalen not Igor, anyone who thinks their actions were equal are

 

[Elway Lives]

I would really like to hear Nalen's take on what happened. If he really was trying to take out the guys knees, he sure seemed to do a half-assed job of it. Almost looked like he didn't know it was going to be a spike, although I have no idea why he wouldn't have known.

Take off the homer glasses. TIAwatch the you tube video. He snaps the ball, stands straight up, and then dives for his Olshanksy's knee. If you cant see that, you are blind. plain and simple

Yup. Watched the video. He dove and looked like he barely touched the guy. I'm just saying he had a clear shot, and had he intended to, he could have broken Igor in half at the knees, but he didn't. So if he had decided before the snap he was going to show the world how dirty of a player he is by ending someone's season (which may have been exactly what he was trying to do, I don't know, and neither does anyone but him), he did a half-assed job of it.

ok, so he's dirty and uncooderinated. gotcha. Cheap shots are allowed, but as long as you miss ending the guy's season, its ok.Thin air up there in colorado i guess. <------------you

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. I'm obviously not going to convince you otherwise. And while I am still curious to know exactly what Nalen was thinking when he did it, I can also certainly understand your need to be a #### to someone from Colorado who would dare question it, though.

 

[jonessed]

I would really like to hear Nalen's take on what happened. If he really was trying to take out the guys knees, he sure seemed to do a half-assed job of it. Almost looked like he didn't know it was going to be a spike, although I have no idea why he wouldn't have known.

Take off the homer glasses. TIAwatch the you tube video. He snaps the ball, stands straight up, and then dives for his Olshanksy's knee. If you cant see that, you are blind. plain and simple

Yup. Watched the video. He dove and looked like he barely touched the guy. I'm just saying he had a clear shot, and had he intended to, he could have broken Igor in half at the knees, but he didn't. So if he had decided before the snap he was going to show the world how dirty of a player he is by ending someone's season (which may have been exactly what he was trying to do, I don't know, and neither does anyone but him), he did a half-assed job of it.

ok, so he's dirty and uncooderinated. gotcha. Cheap shots are allowed, but as long as you miss ending the guy's season, its ok.Thin air up there in colorado i guess. <------------you

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. I'm obviously not going to convince you otherwise. And while I am still curious to know exactly what Nalen was thinking when he did it, I can also certainly understand your need to be a #### to someone from Colorado who would dare question it, though.

He took a shot at someone's knees during a spike play. He didn't even do it right away. He waited until the play was dead. His intentions were about as blatantly obvious as it gets. He was frustrated and took a cheapshot. Maybe he wanted to make it look like it was an accident or not so obvious that the refs would call a personal foul. Does it really matter?

 

[Elway Lives]

I would really like to hear Nalen's take on what happened. If he really was trying to take out the guys knees, he sure seemed to do a half-assed job of it. Almost looked like he didn't know it was going to be a spike, although I have no idea why he wouldn't have known.

Take off the homer glasses. TIAwatch the you tube video. He snaps the ball, stands straight up, and then dives for his Olshanksy's knee. If you cant see that, you are blind. plain and simple

Yup. Watched the video. He dove and looked like he barely touched the guy. I'm just saying he had a clear shot, and had he intended to, he could have broken Igor in half at the knees, but he didn't. So if he had decided before the snap he was going to show the world how dirty of a player he is by ending someone's season (which may have been exactly what he was trying to do, I don't know, and neither does anyone but him), he did a half-assed job of it.

ok, so he's dirty and uncooderinated. gotcha. Cheap shots are allowed, but as long as you miss ending the guy's season, its ok.Thin air up there in colorado i guess. <------------you

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. I'm obviously not going to convince you otherwise. And while I am still curious to know exactly what Nalen was thinking when he did it, I can also certainly understand your need to be a #### to someone from Colorado who would dare question it, though.

He took a shot at someone's knees during a spike play. He didn't even do it right away. He waited until the play was dead. His intentions were about as blatantly obvious as it gets. He was frustrated and took a cheapshot. Maybe he wanted to make it look like it was an accident or not so obvious that the refs would call a personal foul. Does it really matter?

No. I was just curious, but it has been beat to death now. No big deal.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I'm pleasantly shocked. I thought Olshanski might be suspended for a game or two, and nothing at all would happen to Nalen.The league office actually saw this one for what it was.

Hey MT,I was away for a few days, but I watched every minute of this game and was really appalled by nalen in the waning moments of the game. I thought Marty handled the situation tremendously. he knew it was a cheap shot but he really laid into Olshanski and he had to. Marty got this one right and he really is a prime example of good coaching...not always a great playoff coach but he did his job by verbally assaulting Olshanki...I think he knew it was a cheap shot but you can't get 15 yard penalties late in the game. I also think people missed Marty right after the game. he was in the ear of Shanny and I replayed this several times...you could over hear Shanahan acting like he had no idea and I clearly heard him say he would talk to them about it...whatever "it" is...Marty did exactly what he was supposed to do. Maybe this is his year.

 

[Jack Burton]

The worst of it was how Marty completely carved Olshansky right on the field in front of millions. The bast- tard didnt defend his own player, who only reacted instinctively to a dirty rotten no good cheapshot. Marty wont win a super bowl because he doesnt back his players thick or thin. he doesnt trust em to not screw it up. Dont rip a player on the feild like that. Do it behind the scenes in the locker room or your office jerknuts!Nalen is a miserable bag of puke!

While I agree in part, Igor needs to keep his head. His retaliation put the Broncos in a better position to tie. Personally, I don't blame his actions especially since he just got back out on the firld last week. But you have to use your head and NOT take stupid penalties. It's also very likely that Marty didn't see the cheap shot and was going off on him for a personal foul at a stupid, critical time. A team needs discipline to go far in the playoffs. And whether Nalen deserved it or not, the retaliation is almost always going to draw the foul and hurt the team. If you lose the game because of it, who cares that the NFL deemed it somehwat justifiable. And after seeing the replay I'm sure Marty had some mitigating words for Igor. But bottom line, keep your head.

Exactly. That was arguably the most important division game that San Diego will have played all year. The Broncos were driving for a score. You can't lose your head.

Where in my post does it say anything about it being ok to take stupid penalties in an important division game?Losing your cool at a critical time is unacceptable I agree, but it does happen. If it never happened there would be no such thing as a fine. Players are naturally guarded against any hit directed at their knees. Olshansky retaliated to another player taking a deliberate shot at his knees. He should have ignored it but he didnt and I dont know if I blame him. It doesnt take much of a hit in that area to do serious damage(but dont take my word for it. just ask Carson Palmer). I have a bigger problem with Marty laying into the guy in front of the stadium and tv viewerslike he did, and I dont care at what point of what game. I wanna see a coach back his players no matter, especially a guy who busts his ### for his team like Olshansky. Penalty or no penalty we're winning this game should be Marty's attitude. But he spazzed out cause he aint that confident in his players. There was no way Denver was winning that game. . .

 

[Jack Burton]

The worst of it was how Marty completely carved Olshansky right on the field in front of millions. The bast- tard didnt defend his own player, who only reacted instinctively to a dirty rotten no good cheapshot. Marty wont win a super bowl because he doesnt back his players thick or thin. he doesnt trust em to not screw it up. Dont rip a player on the feild like that. Do it behind the scenes in the locker room or your office jerknuts!

This is such a ridiculous post that has no basis in reality.

how do you figure?

 

[Elway Lives]

I would really like to hear Nalen's take on what happened. If he really was trying to take out the guys knees, he sure seemed to do a half-assed job of it. Almost looked like he didn't know it was going to be a spike, although I have no idea why he wouldn't have known.

Take off the homer glasses. TIAwatch the you tube video. He snaps the ball, stands straight up, and then dives for his Olshanksy's knee. If you cant see that, you are blind. plain and simple

Yup. Watched the video. He dove and looked like he barely touched the guy. I'm just saying he had a clear shot, and had he intended to, he could have broken Igor in half at the knees, but he didn't. So if he had decided before the snap he was going to show the world how dirty of a player he is by ending someone's season (which may have been exactly what he was trying to do, I don't know, and neither does anyone but him), he did a half-assed job of it.

ok, so he's dirty and uncooderinated. gotcha. Cheap shots are allowed, but as long as you miss ending the guy's season, its ok.Thin air up there in colorado i guess. <------------you

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. I'm obviously not going to convince you otherwise. And while I am still curious to know exactly what Nalen was thinking when he did it, I can also certainly understand your need to be a #### to someone from Colorado who would dare question it, though.

He took a shot at someone's knees during a spike play. He didn't even do it right away. He waited until the play was dead. His intentions were about as blatantly obvious as it gets. He was frustrated and took a cheapshot. Maybe he wanted to make it look like it was an accident or not so obvious that the refs would call a personal foul. Does it really matter?

Found this on nfl.com:

Broncos center Tom Nalen filed an appeal Wednesday on the $25,000 fine the NFL handed down to him for blocking Chargers defensive end Igor Olshansky. The league also fined Olshansky $10,000 for punching Nalen.

Nalen and the Broncos believe their appeal will be successful on various fronts. For starters, while Nalen's blocking technique could be questioned, it also was perfectly legal. Nalen fell to Olshansky's knees on a play in which Plummer audibled, and the Broncos center thought his quarterback was throwing a go-route to Rod Smith.

Also, other offensive linemen have been fined $5,000 for the same type of block that Nalen used on Olshansky.

But one of Nalen's most interesting arguments is this: The Broncos have video of other plays in which Olshansky head butts Nalen on one play; punches Denver guard Cooper Carlisle in the kidney on another; and grabs the facemask of Broncos running back Damien Nash on the third. NFL Network replayed those videos Wednesday night.

Denver feels that Olshansky was deserving of a stiffer fine than Nalen, but the league felt otherwise.

Take it for what its worth. I'm still sure no one will be convinced otherwise, but that explanation makes more sense to me than the one that says he was just taking a cheap shot (even if Olshansky apparently wasn't playing so cleanly himself either and Nalen probably wouldn't have lost any sleep if he could get some payback).

 

[redman]

I have a bigger problem with Marty laying into the guy in front of the stadium and tv viewerslike he did, and I dont care at what point of what game. I wanna see a coach back his players no matter, especially a guy who busts his ### for his team like Olshansky. Penalty or no penalty we're winning this game should be Marty's attitude. But he spazzed out cause he aint that confident in his players. There was no way Denver was winning that game. . .

Every coach is different. Parcells lays into his players on TV all the time and is praised for it. Marty is known for being vocal and demonstrative, and I don't think that that outward passion is confused by players for being out of control. If it was Tom Landry or Joe Gibbs, then maybe I'd agree that he'd lost it. Given that, Olshansky won't confuse that for "not backing his players". As for winning the game, Denver was a TD and a 2-point conversion on their home field away from sending that game to overtime. To rule out any potential for them to win that game - especially after giving them 15 extra yards, a first down and a stoppage of the clock, is frankly as idiotic as you think Marty's tirade was. I have plenty of things I can criticize Marty for as a coach, but his handling of this situation is not one of them.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Nalen fell to Olshansky's knees on a play in which Plummer audibled, and the Broncos center thought his quarterback was throwing a go-route to Rod Smith.

LOL at that explanation. Here's the video clip. Plummer didn't audible. He gave the "line up so I can spike it" signal, then he got under center and took the snap immediately. There was no cadence. There was no audible. They snapped it quickly and then he spiked it to kill the clock. Even if Nalen thought Smith was running a go route, diving at somebody's knees isn't how you pass-block for that.

 

[mad sweeney]

Nalen fell to Olshansky's knees on a play in which Plummer audibled, and the Broncos center thought his quarterback was throwing a go-route to Rod Smith.

LOL at that explanation. Here's the video clip. Plummer didn't audible. He gave the "line up so I can spike it" signal, then he got under center and took the snap immediately. There was no cadence. There was no audible. They snapped it quickly and then he spiked it to kill the clock. Even if Nalen thought Smith was running a go route, diving at somebody's knees isn't how you pass-block for that.

 

[Elway Lives]

Nalen fell to Olshansky's knees on a play in which Plummer audibled, and the Broncos center thought his quarterback was throwing a go-route to Rod Smith.

LOL at that explanation. Here's the video clip. Plummer didn't audible. He gave the "line up so I can spike it" signal, then he got under center and took the snap immediately. There was no cadence. There was no audible. They snapped it quickly and then he spiked it to kill the clock. Even if Nalen thought Smith was running a go route, diving at somebody's knees isn't how you pass-block for that.

Take it for what its worth. I'm still sure no one will be convinced otherwise, but that explanation makes more sense to me than the one that says he was just taking a cheap shot (even if Olshansky apparently wasn't playing so cleanly himself either and Nalen probably wouldn't have lost any sleep if he could get some payback).

 

[mad sweeney]

Nalen fell to Olshansky's knees on a play in which Plummer audibled, and the Broncos center thought his quarterback was throwing a go-route to Rod Smith.

LOL at that explanation. Here's the video clip. Plummer didn't audible. He gave the "line up so I can spike it" signal, then he got under center and took the snap immediately. There was no cadence. There was no audible. They snapped it quickly and then he spiked it to kill the clock. Even if Nalen thought Smith was running a go route, diving at somebody's knees isn't how you pass-block for that.

Take it for what its worth. I'm still sure no one will be convinced otherwise, but that explanation makes more sense to me than the one that says he was just taking a cheap shot (even if Olshansky apparently wasn't playing so cleanly himself either and Nalen probably wouldn't have lost any sleep if he could get some payback).

Those are some serious glasses you have on. To be able to stick to a clearly wrong conclusion based on zero evidence despite incontrovertible video and audible evidence makes you eligible for public office!

 

[Elway Lives]

Nalen fell to Olshansky's knees on a play in which Plummer audibled, and the Broncos center thought his quarterback was throwing a go-route to Rod Smith.

LOL at that explanation. Here's the video clip. Plummer didn't audible. He gave the "line up so I can spike it" signal, then he got under center and took the snap immediately. There was no cadence. There was no audible. They snapped it quickly and then he spiked it to kill the clock. Even if Nalen thought Smith was running a go route, diving at somebody's knees isn't how you pass-block for that.

Take it for what its worth. I'm still sure no one will be convinced otherwise, but that explanation makes more sense to me than the one that says he was just taking a cheap shot (even if Olshansky apparently wasn't playing so cleanly himself either and Nalen probably wouldn't have lost any sleep if he could get some payback).

Those are some serious glasses you have on. To be able to stick to a clearly wrong conclusion based on zero evidence despite incontrovertible video and audible evidence makes you eligible for public office!

Dude, I've said I'm not going to convince anyone differently. I also said I was curious to get Nalen's take. I got his take. He was fined. So be it.

 

[redman]

Dude, I've said I'm not going to convince anyone differently. I also said I was curious to get Nalen's take. I got his take. He was fined. So be it.

Ok, so I have absolutely no factual basis for my assertion, but if I say that I doubt that I'll convince anyone then I'm allowed to act shocked that no one believes me. Gotcha!

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Check out Igor's response after the game...

It's gamesmanship and I have no problem with it.If Igor gets inside a few of the Broncos players heads with his comments and causes them to go outside their gameplan and try to "man up" more... his gamesmanship worked. If the refs call a few more holds the next time they meet... his gamesmanship worked.

 

[mad sweeney]

Nalen fell to Olshansky's knees on a play in which Plummer audibled, and the Broncos center thought his quarterback was throwing a go-route to Rod Smith.

LOL at that explanation. Here's the video clip. Plummer didn't audible. He gave the "line up so I can spike it" signal, then he got under center and took the snap immediately. There was no cadence. There was no audible. They snapped it quickly and then he spiked it to kill the clock. Even if Nalen thought Smith was running a go route, diving at somebody's knees isn't how you pass-block for that.

Take it for what its worth. I'm still sure no one will be convinced otherwise, but that explanation makes more sense to me than the one that says he was just taking a cheap shot (even if Olshansky apparently wasn't playing so cleanly himself either and Nalen probably wouldn't have lost any sleep if he could get some payback).

Those are some serious glasses you have on. To be able to stick to a clearly wrong conclusion based on zero evidence despite incontrovertible video and audible evidence makes you eligible for public office!

Dude, I've said I'm not going to convince anyone differently. I also said I was curious to get Nalen's take. I got his take. He was fined. So be it.

Olshansky can say that Nalen told him it was okay to hit him, but that doesn't make it true. And I am not going to convince anyone that the Earth is flat either. Just because someone says something doesn't make it true. The evidence is there.

 

[Elway Lives]

Dude, I've said I'm not going to convince anyone differently. I also said I was curious to get Nalen's take. I got his take. He was fined. So be it.

Ok, so I have absolutely no factual basis for my assertion, but if I say that I doubt that I'll convince anyone then I'm allowed to act shocked that no one believes me. Gotcha!

I was just going on what I saw and what he said. If you think I've acted shocked that I'm in the 1% minority who doesn't think it was a blatant cheap shot, I'm sorry you misinterpretted my reaction.Besides, this thread needed a punching bag. Glad to volunteer. Thanks for playing.

 

[The Jacket]

I am more responding to the other posters list of Bronco's transgressions when you could do that with any NFL team out there.

No other team in football cheats like the Denver Broncos.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

I realize this might be the non-standard take, but this situation leads me to believe we're enjoying Nalen's last season.

Why would you say that?Back on topic, Nalen should have been suspended for a game as well at least - not only was it dirty, it was just plain stupid.

I agree with the 15 yard penalty, I agree with the fine.But if you saw that play, the offense knew it was a spike. and he STILL went after his legs???I am just a simple man, but to me thats intent to injure. NOT play football. Igor was defensing himself. Yeah he should of restrained, but sometimes when your LIVELYHOOD is on the line you tend to make some rash decisions. I am surprised he didn't body slam the dumb MFer.Again, he should of NOT hit Nalen... I dont condone it. My problem lays with Michaels and Madden. Iw as talking to my friend while watching the game and I was LIKE WTF!!! He tried to take out his legs!! and Madden and michaels were absolutely CLUELESS. Never mentioned ANYTHING about Nalen trying to take out his knees. Just about how Igor was dumb for doing that.... Me and my friend were like.... crackerjack reporting AGAIN... way to go Al and John, way to stay on top of things.

Madden's excuse is because he is a blowhard and senile joke.Many people love himBaa baa baa baa

 

[nutssfan]

Check out Igor's response after the game...

When did Stanley Roper start conducting interviews??

 

[DanFouts]

Nalen and the Bronco O Line are cheap shot artists.

I am glad Igor went off on him (and more glad he didn't lose the game !)

Can't wait for the rematch....

 

[BoltBacker]

Nalen fell to Olshansky's knees on a play in which Plummer audibled, and the Broncos center thought his quarterback was throwing a go-route to Rod Smith.

LOL at that explanation. Here's the video clip. Plummer didn't audible. He gave the "line up so I can spike it" signal, then he got under center and took the snap immediately. There was no cadence. There was no audible. They snapped it quickly and then he spiked it to kill the clock. Even if Nalen thought Smith was running a go route, diving at somebody's knees isn't how you pass-block for that.

That's not the only part that is ridiculous. I particularly liked the "Nalen and the Broncos believe their appeal will be successful on various fronts. For starters, while Nalen's blocking technique could be questioned, it also was perfectly legal" part...... since when it is perfectly legal to START your "BLOCK" after the ball has been snapped, spiked, and is rolling around on the ground? The play is dead when Nalen starts to dive at Igors knees. Pefectly legal? Again, I'm not sure why this surprises anyone that's watched the broncos play for years now. Whether it's ending the season of DL that are standing 30+ yards away from the play with a "block" at the knees or a safety using the crown of his helmet to spear a WR either way it's been demonstrated and replayed to death. The "sure den is guilty of cheap shots..... but so are all teams" is just about the weakest defense out there. All teams may be guilty of cheap shots but den is by far the most consistent out there which is no easy feat when you consider they are playing in the same league as the raiders. If a few more of the raiders players actually cared I'm sure den and oak would be neck and neck in terms of proffesionalism and sportsmanship.

 

[BoltBacker]

Translation of the fine amounts:$10k - "we fined you because we had to"$25k - "we fined you because you're a dirty piece of ####"

I'd add;1 game suspension w/o a game check - We actually care about the safety of the players in the league and want to discourage obvious attempts by teams at injuring other players.As usual, den OL gets a slap on the wrist even if he's forced to actually pay it. I doubt he even pays the penalty though the way NFL.com is spinning. Either way the owner probably picks up the tab. If it cost $25k to end Jamal Williams season like the den OL did in '02 I'm sure they'd be more than willing to chaulk it up as an "operating expense". The proceeds from one playoff game more than off-set $25k to be sure.