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LenDale White Bandwagon (1 Viewer)

Not to add to an old and  possibly defunct argument, but when discounting players because of all the talent around them...well, first of all, it's dumb for all the reasons posted above, but also, no matter what team a kid goes and no matter what college they come from, they are going to be surrounded by even better talent at the pro level, so it just doesn't make any sense.
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Since you and others don't seem to get this concept. Ask yourself, how great was a player like Scottie Pippen without Michael Jordan? Along the same lines, I guess the Denver Broncos running game is awesome solely because they have always had great RBs? I am alluding to a system, just like USC....

Hate the break the news to you but this is a team game and there is talent around you and on the other side of the ball. Talent (especially your teammates') and a system will impact your performance; good or bad.
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How great was Jordan without Pippen? But I think I get that your saying it's a two way street which I agree with.
 
Much more good news on White and his ADP will start rising quickly. Draft now and get a great steal in your league.

 
Not to add to an old and  possibly defunct argument, but when discounting players because of all the talent around them...well, first of all, it's dumb for all the reasons posted above, but also, no matter what team a kid goes and no matter what college they come from, they are going to be surrounded by even better talent at the pro level, so it just doesn't make any sense.
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Since you and others don't seem to get this concept. Ask yourself, how great was a player like Scottie Pippen without Michael Jordan? Along the same lines, I guess the Denver Broncos running game is awesome solely because they have always had great RBs? I am alluding to a system, just like USC....

Hate the break the news to you but this is a team game and there is talent around you and on the other side of the ball. Talent (especially your teammates') and a system will impact your performance; good or bad.
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You're not breaking any news to me. You basically repeated what I said.
 
The recent discussion on this thread about supporting cast and how it effects a player's value has it's place, but I think it can be overblown. Watching White play in college, you see moves, power, and instinct that isn't dependent upon his surrounding team. Certainly, a solid offense gives you a case to showcase those talents more regularly, but White undoubtedly has the gifts to excel at the NFL level. I'm certainly optimistic and hopeful that he can combine his talent with a gritty work ethic and explode in Tennessee, since the pieces are in place to do it.

Could he bust? Yes, but I'm driving this bandwagon till he proves me wrong!

 
I'll be the guy waiving goodbye to the bus as it waddles past. BUST!
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Agreed, watching this Bus to nowhere leave the station. In a keeper league, sure Lendale is fine to have. Bu to think he is going to produce this year? ** Lendale is overweight and shaking injuries

** TENN QB is uncertain (though yes, Volek can be decent)

** TENN will have one of the most piss poor offenses in the league.

** TENN Defense sucks too -- they will not be leading games in fourth quarter

 
I'll be the guy waiving goodbye to the bus as it waddles past.  BUST!
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Agreed, watching this Bus to nowhere leave the station. In a keeper league, sure Lendale is fine to have. Bu to think he is going to produce this year? ** Lendale is overweight and shaking injuries

** TENN QB is uncertain (though yes, Volek can be decent)

** TENN will have one of the most piss poor offenses in the league.

** TENN Defense sucks too -- they will not be leading games in fourth quarter
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In response, Point #1 - Lendale is reportedly down to 235 hardly overweight and considering he had his best games at around 250, hardly a concern. He is coming off one injury, a hamstring injury. He has already give that time to heal and it isn't even training camp yet... think that will be a concern during the season, I highly doubt it.

Point #2 and #3 combined - Volek has been efficient in the past and there is no reason to think that he can't be again. Not too mention that if he isn't then there may be a Kerry Collins sitting there waiting to take over or maybe they hand the reigns to VY in either case it doesn't matter because the passing game will have 2 or 3 QB's capable of at least keeping the defense honest. To go with the QB TEN has a far better than average WR corps that includes Drew Bennett, David Givens, Ben Troupe and a talented young WR group behind them. I think this is one of the most underrated offenses in the league but I will give you that you do have to question how Volek will handle this unit.

Point #4 - Once again I believe this is an underrated unit. They upgraded by getting David Thorton, Chris Hope and re-signing Vanden Bosch. They have a damn good front 7 and still have a young but immature talent in Pac Man Jones. My guess is that this unit will be more than adequate and keep TEN in games.

...and finally my Point #5 - People tend to forget how well Fisher brought McNair along. What did he do? He realied heavily on a running game, a running game centered around a young back with the same build and style as Lendale White a man named Eddie George. Combine this with the fact that Norm Chow was his OC while at USC and that is two signs pointing that TEN wants to build this offense around a running game so that they can groom VY slowly and let him mature in an NFL offense. My guess is that they will have success simply because Jeff Fisher knows wtf he's doing.

 
...and finally my Point #5 - People tend to forget how well Fisher brought McNair along. What did he do? He realied heavily on a running game, a running game centered around a young back with the same build and style as Lendale White a man named Eddie George. Combine this with the fact that Norm Chow was his OC while at USC and that is two signs pointing that TEN wants to build this offense around a running game so that they can groom VY slowly and let him mature in an NFL offense. My guess is that they will have success simply because Jeff Fisher knows wtf he's doing.
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Unfortunately, I get the sneaky suspicion that Fisher might be on the way out after this season :( . That same sneaky suspicion says he's going to Indianapolis :ph34r: However, your points are great and have only stood to reaffirm what I already believe:

LenDale will be a monster this year on the field, and a starting RB at 7.08ADP is a :excited: :thumbup:

 
He'll be lucky if he has a career as good as TJ Duckett.
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You've gotta love it when people compare LenDale White to TJ Duckett. The two have vastly different running styles. White is a nimble big back in the mold of Stephen Davis, Jerome Bettis, and Jamal Lewis.

Duckett is much faster than White, but he lacks the quick feet needed to adjust to blocks.

 
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im tentatively on his bandwagon this year. I dont think the Titans want to rush their future "golden child" in his rookie campaign. They are in the perfect situation not to rush White into a starting role immediately.

Until Chris Brown goes down with injury(very likely at some point) or the Titans offense struggles horribly, White will be delegated to spot duty and given more time to learn the system and get into NFL shape. With Brown most likely leaving after this season for greener pastures, I see them using him as much as possible, while slowly easing White in.. This way he will be ready to be the unquestioned fulltime starter come next season.

 
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im tentatively on his bandwagon this year. I dont think the Titans want to rush their future "golden child" in his rookie campaign. They are in the perfect situation not to rush White into a starting role immediately.

Until Chris Brown goes down with injury(very likely at some point) or the Titans offense struggles horribly, White will be delegated to spot duty and given more time to learn the system and get into NFL shape. With Brown most likely leaving after this season for greener pastures, I see them using him as much as possible, while slowly easing White in.. This way he will be ready to be the unquestioned fulltime starter come next season.
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Stand tall young man. We on the LenDale White bandwagon together must weather the storms of naysayers and critics from all sides, which means that we demand the highest level of determination and commitment. We must ride firmly and securely in the wagon, placing our buttock cheeks firmly upon the seats. Take the final step into the bandwagon, close the door, and leave your former life of doubting behind you.
 
I'll be the guy waiving goodbye to the bus as it waddles past.  BUST!
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Agreed, watching this Bus to nowhere leave the station. In a keeper league, sure Lendale is fine to have. Bu to think he is going to produce this year? ** Lendale is overweight and shaking injuries

** TENN QB is uncertain (though yes, Volek can be decent)

** TENN will have one of the most piss poor offenses in the league.

** TENN Defense sucks too -- they will not be leading games in fourth quarter
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In response, Point #1 - Lendale is reportedly down to 235 hardly overweight and considering he had his best games at around 250, hardly a concern. He is coming off one injury, a hamstring injury. He has already give that time to heal and it isn't even training camp yet... think that will be a concern during the season, I highly doubt it.

Point #2 and #3 combined - Volek has been efficient in the past and there is no reason to think that he can't be again. Not too mention that if he isn't then there may be a Kerry Collins sitting there waiting to take over or maybe they hand the reigns to VY in either case it doesn't matter because the passing game will have 2 or 3 QB's capable of at least keeping the defense honest. To go with the QB TEN has a far better than average WR corps that includes Drew Bennett, David Givens, Ben Troupe and a talented young WR group behind them. I think this is one of the most underrated offenses in the league but I will give you that you do have to question how Volek will handle this unit.

Point #4 - Once again I believe this is an underrated unit. They upgraded by getting David Thorton, Chris Hope and re-signing Vanden Bosch. They have a damn good front 7 and still have a young but immature talent in Pac Man Jones. My guess is that this unit will be more than adequate and keep TEN in games.

...and finally my Point #5 - People tend to forget how well Fisher brought McNair along. What did he do? He realied heavily on a running game, a running game centered around a young back with the same build and style as Lendale White a man named Eddie George. Combine this with the fact that Norm Chow was his OC while at USC and that is two signs pointing that TEN wants to build this offense around a running game so that they can groom VY slowly and let him mature in an NFL offense. My guess is that they will have success simply because Jeff Fisher knows wtf he's doing.
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Good points but it seems you are fighting the tide here. Vince Young and Lendale are talents, but are rookies and i still say the the surroinding Titans cast is Horrible. VY will mature, so will Lendale, they can draft some OLs now that they have improved their LBs and secondary.But winning is not in the cards this year
 
"Stand tall young man."

"We must ride firmly and securely in the wagon, placing our buttock cheeks firmly upon the seats."

which is it? :)

 
"Stand tall young man."

"We must ride firmly and securely in the wagon, placing our buttock cheeks firmly upon the seats."

which is it? :)
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Not sure I like anybody(other than my wife) telling me where to place my buttock cheeks. Just a little to "familiar" for a fantasy football message board. :sarcasm:

BTW, I'm on the wagon this year. Sign me up. Gonna get White as my third RB.

 
Good points but it seems you are fighting the tide here. Vince Young and Lendale are talents, but are rookies and i still say the the surroinding Titans cast is Horrible. VY will mature, so will Lendale, they can draft some OLs now that they have improved their LBs and secondary.But winning is not in the cards this year
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What tide? We're the ones with our sails pointed to victory. :D Who needs to win to put up solid numbers.

I remember when the Chargers were terrible a few years ago... that guy did pretty okay for a rookie.

You seem to doubt the huge advantage White has of already knowing Chow's system....

 
White's odds of starting Week 1 when he was drafted: 1/25*

White's odds of starting Week 1 now: 1/3*

What we have here is a trajectory.

:popcorn:



*Odds calculated using a convoluted process over a bowl of grape nuts and a bucket of cottage cheese, by a former math student turned preacher with too much time on his hands but too little time to go to the grocery store.

 
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Rev said:
im tentatively on his bandwagon this year. I dont think the Titans want to rush their future "golden child" in his rookie campaign. They are in the perfect situation not to rush White into a starting role immediately.

Until Chris Brown goes down with injury(very likely at some point) or the Titans offense struggles horribly, White will be delegated to spot duty and given more time to learn the system and get into NFL shape. With Brown most likely leaving after this season for greener pastures, I see them using him as much as possible, while slowly easing White in.. This way he will be ready to be the unquestioned fulltime starter come next season.
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Stand tall young man. We on the LenDale White bandwagon together must weather the storms of naysayers and critics from all sides, which means that we demand the highest level of determination and commitment. We must ride firmly and securely in the wagon, placing our buttock cheeks firmly upon the seats. Take the final step into the bandwagon, close the door, and leave your former life of doubting behind you.
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Anyone still on the wagon?
 
that's better...

Anyone hear any else on the "showcasing" of T.Henry for a trade? Henry didnt really do much last preaseason game. I would love for Lendale's only competition to be Chris Brown. I'm hoping Lendale is starting after the Titan's bye week (week 7). They should be out of playoff contention by then :banned:

 
What's he had 5 carries this preseason?

Forced to be on he bandwagon thanks to me being blind by a big fat.....never mind.

 
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Dancing Bear said:
Jerome Bettis is one of the Top 5 RB's of all time in the NFL, and IMHO he never looked like prototypical chiseled RB. In fact he most always looked fat to me. Being chiseled is not a prerequisite for success as a RB. It's more about heart, natural ability and exercising this ability to the fullest extent.Nay-sayers have no evidence on any level that LenDale White has not been a good steward of his gifts. He has worked hard and taken advantage of his situation to the fullest on every level. In fact you have records upon records in his wake.LenDale White will be the starting RB in Tennessee before their bye.
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hmmm....and I bet you still think Reggie Bush sucks......
 
thayman said:
Dancing Bear said:
Jerome Bettis is one of the Top 5 RB's of all time in the NFL, and IMHO he never looked like prototypical chiseled RB. In fact he most always looked fat to me. Being chiseled is not a prerequisite for success as a RB. It's more about heart, natural ability and exercising this ability to the fullest extent.Nay-sayers have no evidence on any level that LenDale White has not been a good steward of his gifts. He has worked hard and taken advantage of his situation to the fullest on every level. In fact you have records upon records in his wake.LenDale White will be the starting RB in Tennessee before their bye.
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hmmm....and I bet you still think Reggie Bush sucks......
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Sucks? No.But certainly nowhere near the demi-God that some folks thought he would be.
 
Frenchy Fuqua said:
Anyone still on this thing? He did lead the Titans in carries last week.
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Still riding and waiting.He looked ok Sunday. He was solid in pass protection. He did not turn it over. He moved the football against a team that knew he was coming. It is still too early to write him off. I'd say the Titans are about to unload their bench and the youngsters are going to start playing. White's going to get his looks over the next several weeks. By mid to late October there should be more game film available on White.
 
JuniorNB said:
thayman said:
Dancing Bear said:
Jerome Bettis is one of the Top 5 RB's of all time in the NFL, and IMHO he never looked like prototypical chiseled RB. In fact he most always looked fat to me. Being chiseled is not a prerequisite for success as a RB. It's more about heart, natural ability and exercising this ability to the fullest extent.Nay-sayers have no evidence on any level that LenDale White has not been a good steward of his gifts. He has worked hard and taken advantage of his situation to the fullest on every level. In fact you have records upon records in his wake.LenDale White will be the starting RB in Tennessee before their bye.
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hmmm....and I bet you still think Reggie Bush sucks......
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Sucks? No.But certainly nowhere near the demi-God that some folks thought he would be.
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he's not a demi-God......just Rookie of the Year.
 
thayman said:
JuniorNB said:
thayman said:
Dancing Bear said:
Jerome Bettis is one of the Top 5 RB's of all time in the NFL, and IMHO he never looked like prototypical chiseled RB. In fact he most always looked fat to me. Being chiseled is not a prerequisite for success as a RB. It's more about heart, natural ability and exercising this ability to the fullest extent.Nay-sayers have no evidence on any level that LenDale White has not been a good steward of his gifts. He has worked hard and taken advantage of his situation to the fullest on every level. In fact you have records upon records in his wake.LenDale White will be the starting RB in Tennessee before their bye.
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hmmm....and I bet you still think Reggie Bush sucks......
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Sucks? No.But certainly nowhere near the demi-God that some folks thought he would be.
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he's not a demi-God......just Rookie of the Year.
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Yeah, his 5 carries for 6 yards against one of the league's worst defenses was quite impressive last week.You are right, though. He'll probably win ROY. His two yard scurries, where he jukes a 270 pound lineman, gets ten times the press coverage of DeAngelo Williams' six yard per carry runs.
 
Lendale White is a marketing gimmick.

They were looking for something similar to the styrofoam cheeseheads GB fans wear.

Look for styrofoam man-boobs on sale at your local shopping malls.

 
He very well may. Unless the Titans are planning on resigning Travis Henry to be their '07 feature guy, see no reason why they wouldn't see what LenDale has around Wk. 10 or 11. The NFL isn't exactly like baseball w/r/t to playing your youngsters when you're out of it, but they do do it. And they've alreay got Young in there so why not?

 
I wouldn't count out LenDale for 2006 yet. Travis Henry has looked great the past two weeks but his past is littered with injuries and tough stretches of games.

 
I tend to think White and Henry will continue to split carries. Henry is in a contract year I believe and the Titans probably want to be sure they want to resign him. I think White gets enough experience splitting carries and I don't think the Titans will feel like they have to make him the full time back anytime in '06 just to prove he can handle it in '07. JMO

 
jrastama said:
I tend to think White and Henry will continue to split carries. Henry is in a contract year I believe and the Titans probably want to be sure they want to resign him. I think White gets enough experience splitting carries and I don't think the Titans will feel like they have to make him the full time back anytime in '06 just to prove he can handle it in '07. JMO
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Thought I read on FBG somewhere that Henry signed a very cap friendly extension through 2009.
 
Is LenDale expected to be inactive for Week 7 too? Anybody have any info beyond Rotoworld's latest update on him?

 
LenDale White (questionable, hip/flu) missed at least a portion of practice Friday, and is unlikely to be active in Week 14.
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0 TDs through week 13. Vince Young has more rushing yards than LenDale :lmao: Other rookies with more rushing yards than LenDale YTD:Reggie BushJoseph AddaiDeAngelo WilliamsLaurence MaroneyJerious Norwood Mike BellWali LundyMaurice Jones-Drew Leon WashingtonSure glad I didn't waste a draft pick on him :thumbup:Good luck in 2007...
 
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LenDale White (questionable, hip/flu) missed at least a portion of practice Friday, and is unlikely to be active in Week 14.
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0 TDs through week 13. Vince Young has more rushing yards than LenDale :lmao: Sure glad I didn't waste a draft pick on him :thumbup:Good luck in 2007...
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Dumbest post in this thread. Congrats.CA_7 probably didn't waste draft picks on:Willis McGaheeLarry JohnsonShaun AlexanderDuece McAllisterFrank GoreTatum BellTiki BarberRueben DroughnsDeshawn FosterAhman GreenSteven JacksonRudi JohnsonThomas JonesLamont JordanWillie ParkerChester TaylorBrian WestbrookAll 2007 NFL starters that didn't carry the load in year one of their NFL career.17 of 32 NFL starting RBs did not produce well in their first year in the league.Others that didn't carry the load in year one, but became starters (success may vary):Chris BrownCory Dillon - only started 6 games in year oneJulius Jones - only started 7Priest HolmesKevan BarlowCedric Houston ?
 
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Obviously THenry has earned his spot... whether the Titans will want to pay the incentives that he earned may be another thing. Could be another waiting game with Lendale, which sucks.

 
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