rockaction
Footballguy
I've heard that and about his blocking. I'm not sneezing at an NFL guy being an extraordinary physical entity. He just looks smaller than the other extraordinary physical entities trying to stop him.
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Lesean McCoy? How concerned are we? (1 Viewer)
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rockaction
Footballguy
I did that. Whoops. I'm not really concerned, though as he was my last RB off the bench.
Have Jacobs, J. White, K. Hunt, and J. Mixon in .5 PPR. If Shady wins the job, that's one thing, but I need to actually make the playoffs and he sure seemed like he was getting no carries after the Packer fumble.
For the most part, he still looked like their best RB. I think the fumbles did him in.
rockaction
Footballguy
His YPC was like 5.5. It's either pre-determined rest, pass pro, or fumbles. We won't know until it all shakes out, which will be too late for fantasy regular seasons and their playoff schedule is tough.
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
Dropped him for Guice in 10 man redraft.
SkippaDaFlippa
Footballguy
Extremely concerned. Troubled even
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
He's currently 5th among RBs in YPC, so yeah, this is definitely not a 'father time' thing.
Darrel had a key fumble, in a game they won, and he didn't get benched. He made up for, but there must be other reasons. Maybe it's cause the Williams provide better blocking blocking for the franchise.
The Frankman
Footballguy
huhn... the third issue I think is the key one.
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Love when an old thread title becomes relevant again without needing an edit.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Broadcast called it a predetermined rest day.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
I'm over the McCoy game. I never felt comfortable starting him. So far my decision to drop him for Ron Jones is working out this week.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Ok, I'm concerned.
Don Hutson
Footballguy
It's probably not a coincidence that LeSean got benched the same game Mahomes came back. With Mahomes knee at risk of reinjury, blocking is more important than normal. Last year PFF gave McCoy a pass blocking grade of 51.3. Damien Williams received a pass blocking grade of 78.4. Darrel Williams received a pass blocking grade of 78.0.
All the Chiefs get a predetermined rest day week 12. And it'd probably be a first in the NFL. Not buying that explanation one bit.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Any sense of what happens Monday night? I'm in a bit of a jam this week if Montgomery doesn't play Sunday night. I have McCoy and I picked up Darwin Thompson last night, so I would have to choose between those two if Monty sits. Or if by miracle Breida suits up I could roll the dice with him but that would be a little nutty, too. Anything of note from practice reports this week?
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I haven't heard anything.
We didnt hear anything prior to the last game either. Shady was a healthy scratch.
So I'm not expecting him to play.
Encumbrance
Footballguy
Damien Williams (personal) 'should' travel with the team, per Rotoworld.
Should.
Should.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
Shady with almost another DEVASTATING fumble .....lucky it bounces right back to him....
####### guy should not see the field again.....sorry....if you are not gonna change your game to be better and help your team....take a seat...
####### guy should not see the field again.....sorry....if you are not gonna change your game to be better and help your team....take a seat...
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
his possible game losing/changing fumble inside the 10 ( that luckily bounced right back to him) will be lost in the wash.... but at some point the Chiefs need to say enough is enough....still a loaf of bread....i'll take freakin Darrell Williams twice on Sunday when ball security is important.....Shady doesn't give a #### about ball security......its obvious he will not change his game....when every possession means something down the stretch, not sure how Reid can still be playing this guy no matter what history you have with him....
With regard to punishing/benching a guy for fumbling, I'd be fascinated to know how many coaches...
* impose less discipline if his own team recovers, and more discipline if the other team recovers;
* view all fumbles as equally bad regardless of who recovers.
Seems like the latter is the more sensible perspective. If I'm Reid and I see McCoy juggling the ball down there near the endzone, he's done for the day right there, even though he was able to get it back himself. It's a bullet dodged, but the bullet was discharged nonetheless.
* impose less discipline if his own team recovers, and more discipline if the other team recovers;
* view all fumbles as equally bad regardless of who recovers.
Seems like the latter is the more sensible perspective. If I'm Reid and I see McCoy juggling the ball down there near the endzone, he's done for the day right there, even though he was able to get it back himself. It's a bullet dodged, but the bullet was discharged nonetheless.
Encumbrance
Footballguy
I can't remember a backfield in my decade or so of this hobby that's been less settled this late in the year.
Usually, you just chalk it up to an RBBC and move on, but this feels different.
I also usually like to chime in with an "all you need is friendship..." vibe about fantasy football to its adherents. Seems to take the edge off of things.
This situation? This situation has nothing to do with friendship. Next time someone tells you about the genius of KC and Mahomes, remind them about how they squinted real hard and found diamonds in the coal that is Sammy Watkins.
They have no more of a clue than you do.
Usually, you just chalk it up to an RBBC and move on, but this feels different.
I also usually like to chime in with an "all you need is friendship..." vibe about fantasy football to its adherents. Seems to take the edge off of things.
This situation? This situation has nothing to do with friendship. Next time someone tells you about the genius of KC and Mahomes, remind them about how they squinted real hard and found diamonds in the coal that is Sammy Watkins.
They have no more of a clue than you do.
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Encumbrance
Footballguy
I mean, Sammy Watkins? Even Judy from Vertigo was game for a minute as a cheap imitation of herself.
Keerist.
Keerist.
Damien Williams not practicing.
Picked up McCoy off waivers last night and he's sitting in my last (8th) RB slot. Figured what the hell...can't be that bad to have a piece of the KC offense (unless you're counting on it).
Williams still not practicing after the bye. Interesting. And they signed another RB. Could this be a multi week injury?
Have McCoy. Darrell Williams sitting in FA too. Would be great if the stars align here just in time for the playoffs.
Picked up McCoy off waivers last night and he's sitting in my last (8th) RB slot. Figured what the hell...can't be that bad to have a piece of the KC offense (unless you're counting on it).
Williams still not practicing after the bye. Interesting. And they signed another RB. Could this be a multi week injury?
Have McCoy. Darrell Williams sitting in FA too. Would be great if the stars align here just in time for the playoffs.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Tough though because it feels like a scenario where whatever choice you make, the opposite will happen.
Wouldnt be surprised to see McGuire get a bunch of carries because “why the hell not”
barackdhouse
Footballguy
If Damien Williams sits then I think that only brings clarity. McCoy or Darrell Williams would both be flex worthy starts. Reid will probably split the workload so they'd each have a decent floor with TD upside. 10-17 pts each. Good not great and probably doesn't lose you anything.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
It’s the time of year where you have to c@ck block when necessary. I grabbed McCoy. Darrel is still out there too (smaller league) but don’t have that much room.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
I see a huge disparity in McCoy rankings with BLOOM having him ranked fairly high, and DODDS & TREMBLAY ranked very low.
Seems like it's a wait n' see who Reid names the starter and what exactly is the status of D Williams.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
D. Williams is playing but we don't know how big of a role he'll have. D. Williams remains a question mark if he'll be active or not.
Scut Farkus
Please See Mine alias
i feel like darrel has the higher true upside, but mccoy has the higher median outcome.
reid loves shady, even though darrel has more burst at this point. mccoy still does have the shiftiness, and i would expect him to get more red zone work.
wormburner
Footballguy
Hairy Snowman
Footballguy
I am really thinking that Williams is the play until the playoffs start. Fresh legs. Big body. Can catch the ball. That is what Reid wants this time of the year. I wouldn't be surprised if it was back to the normal rotation by the playoffs.
rockaction
Footballguy
Clearly the most talented back on this team, going to utter waste over Andy Reid's mansy panting.
Scut Farkus
Please See Mine alias
rockaction
Footballguy
I didn't want to get suspended over calling him something else.
Let's put it this way: "if Andy Reid could stop bloviating and hemming and hawing and start making up his mind, he'd have his true back." Instead, he got cute with his backfield and tried to coach speak it out of them. They're old dogs. Ain't no new tricks, aside from Darrel.
Scut Farkus
Please See Mine alias
Why does he need a “true” back?
these ain’t psalms, this is the nfl. Multiple backs can succeed. Reid ####s up game management, but he is an offensive genius.
rockaction
Footballguy
My bad. He doesn't really. This was a cross-posting. In the other thread, I said he should have just said "RBBC" to the media and been done with it.
But that also said, among this group, he really does have a pretty glaring top back, and it's hurt them in their four losses. I think McCoy is the guy to run the football for them. That's just me.
