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Lex Hilliard (1 Viewer)

I think this is an opportunity to get out in front of your leaguemates here. There is typically a true sleeper that emerges down the stretch of a season and I think Hillard just could be that guy when you look at this situation. Personally, I think the Wildcat goes toothless without Ronnie and takes a back seat to a more conventional offense. Henne has been decent and servicable, especially when you look at what some other teams are rolling out at QB (looking at Cleveland, Buffalo and Oakland). I think they go more spread formation, run Ricky 15-20 with a few receptions mixed in and see where that takes them. The Cat was being schemed well by defenses anyway and they can keep an element of it in their offense but if you have watched Miami, you know that Ronnie Brown IS the Miami Wildcat offense and all others are trying to copy him.

All that being said, I think that RW will be a great play the rest of the way BUT was the split load a blessing for him or holding him back? Time will tell but I don't think he is going to be able to do 15-20 on a regular basis. In steps Hillard. He is a guy that has natural instincts and can bang it bw the tackles which they will need to do. I think Ginn's role will have to come back into play out of the doghouse to help stretch defenses in a more conventional scheme (albeit he still can't catch a cold but at least they can air it out) as are the rest of the below average Miami receivers. I also expect the Miami Defense to play a little better the rest of the way knowing their margin for error is much less now. I am a a believer in Henne who is more than a first year player and I think he is up to the challenge. With a schedule that is not overbearing, I think Miami may surprise people the rest of the way and I think that Hillard is going to be a part of that. Get him on the cheap now before everyone sees tonight's game because I think after tonight, people will better know who he is.

 
As someone said earlier, Sheets can't pass block yet. He was signed a little over a month ago. Add those 2 together, and I think you have a non-factor this season.

 
Only way Sheets sees the field is on special teams. He couldn't pick up a blitz to save his life.

Hilliard is the one to own here. No way Sparano has Ricky running the ball more than 20 times per game. Those other 15 carries have to go somewhere.

Hilliard was reportedly throwing Wildcat passes on Tuesday....

 
Miami is a run first team with a 32 year old as their starting back. I don't like Ronnie Brown's chances to stay healthy the rest of the way, so somebody has to take those touches, especially with a rookie QB. Miami's OL is very good, not to mention Parcells always seems to know what hes doing. Enter Lex Hilliard, a true sleeper. I find it amazing that the 2nd RB on the Dolphins depth chart is getting no press. Sleeper is such an overused phrase and if Hilliard gets touches, he could be a real sleeper and not a "sleeper" everyone is talking about.Call me crazy but ill follow Bill Parcells judge of talent and potentially look like a genius adding Hilliard as a flyer before Thursday night.
You're Crazy.This is the same guy who drafted Julius Jones over Steven Jackson. Some evaluator of talent I'll say.
1997–98Parcells again instrumented a remarkable turnaround in his first year with the Jets. In his first season with the Jets, the team barely missed the playoffs with a record of 9–7. In 1998, the Jets went to the playoffs with a 12–4 record, which was good enough for second place in the conference and earned the Jets their first home playoff game since moving to New Jersey in 1984, but lost to the eventual Super Bowl-champion Denver Broncos in the AFC Championship Game.Following three straight 5–11 seasons, Dallas Cowboys' owner Jerry Jones lured Bill Parcells out of retirement and made him the head coach in 2003.[edit] 2003In his first season with the Cowboys, he led them to the playoffs with a 10–6 record (losing to the eventual NFC Champion Carolina Panthers in the opening round), thus making him the first head coach in NFL history to guide four different teams to the playoffs.Miami DolphinsOn December 19, 2007, the Miami Herald reported that Parcells had agreed to become the new Executive Vice President of Football Operations of the Miami Dolphins.[26] ESPN reported the following day that he signed a four year contract.[27] Just a day prior, reports linking Parcells to the Atlanta Falcons' position of vice president of football operations were leaked.[28] However, the following day the Falcons formally announced that Parcells had turned down the offer because of discussions with Miami.[29]In the first season as Executive Vice President of Football Operations, Parcells fired head coach Cam Cameron, GM Randy Mueller, along with a few assistant coaches, after a 1–15 finish in the 2007 season. With vacancies at the GM and head coaching spots, he brought in Jeff Ireland to be the general manager and signed Tony Sparano as head coach.The new front office under Parcells then signed over 20 little-known players in the free-agent market.In the 2008 draft, they drafted offensive tackle Jake Long with the #1 overall pick, along with Phillip Merling, Kendall Langford, Chad Henne, Lex Hilliard, and Donald Thomas. They also signed undrafted free agents Dan Carpenter and Davone Bess.They also released fan favorite Zach Thomas, who would end signing with the Dallas Cowboys, and traded star defensive end Jason Taylor to the Washington Redskins for a second round pick in the 2009 draft.The Dolphins then went on to sign quarterback Chad Pennington (drafted by Parcells in his Jets days), who was cut by the Jets to make room for Brett Favre.[30]The Dolphins finished the 2008 season 11–5 and became AFC East champions when Pennington and the Dolphins defeated Favre and the Jets in the final game of the season.[31] They finished with a 10 game improvement, tying the 1999 Indianapolis Colts for the best improvement ever. It was also the first time since 2001 the Dolphins made the playoffs. They lost in the first round to the Baltimore Ravens 27–9.sounds like he knows what hes doing
 
Only way Sheets sees the field is on special teams. He couldn't pick up a blitz to save his life.

Hilliard is the one to own here. No way Sparano has Ricky running the ball more than 20 times per game. Those other 15 carries have to go somewhere.

Hilliard was reportedly throwing Wildcat passes on Tuesday....
REALLY!?!?!? Do you have a link to this or was it radio spot/ESPN?This would clear the picture significantly!

 
Only way Sheets sees the field is on special teams. He couldn't pick up a blitz to save his life.

Hilliard is the one to own here. No way Sparano has Ricky running the ball more than 20 times per game. Those other 15 carries have to go somewhere.

Hilliard was reportedly throwing Wildcat passes on Tuesday....
REALLY!?!?!? Do you have a link to this or was it radio spot/ESPN?This would clear the picture significantly!
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nyy45 said:
Miami is a run first team with a 32 year old as their starting back. I don't like Ronnie Brown's chances to stay healthy the rest of the way, so somebody has to take those touches, especially with a rookie QB. Miami's OL is very good, not to mention Parcells always seems to know what hes doing. Enter Lex Hilliard, a true sleeper. I find it amazing that the 2nd RB on the Dolphins depth chart is getting no press. Sleeper is such an overused phrase and if Hilliard gets touches, he could be a real sleeper and not a "sleeper" everyone is talking about.Call me crazy but ill follow Bill Parcells judge of talent and potentially look like a genius adding Hilliard as a flyer before Thursday night.
You're Crazy.This is the same guy who drafted Julius Jones over Steven Jackson. Some evaluator of talent I'll say.
1997–98Parcells again instrumented a remarkable turnaround in his first year with the Jets. In his first season with the Jets, the team barely missed the playoffs with a record of 9–7. In 1998, the Jets went to the playoffs with a 12–4 record, which was good enough for second place in the conference and earned the Jets their first home playoff game since moving to New Jersey in 1984, but lost to the eventual Super Bowl-champion Denver Broncos in the AFC Championship Game.Following three straight 5–11 seasons, Dallas Cowboys' owner Jerry Jones lured Bill Parcells out of retirement and made him the head coach in 2003.[edit] 2003In his first season with the Cowboys, he led them to the playoffs with a 10–6 record (losing to the eventual NFC Champion Carolina Panthers in the opening round), thus making him the first head coach in NFL history to guide four different teams to the playoffs.Miami DolphinsOn December 19, 2007, the Miami Herald reported that Parcells had agreed to become the new Executive Vice President of Football Operations of the Miami Dolphins.[26] ESPN reported the following day that he signed a four year contract.[27] Just a day prior, reports linking Parcells to the Atlanta Falcons' position of vice president of football operations were leaked.[28] However, the following day the Falcons formally announced that Parcells had turned down the offer because of discussions with Miami.[29]In the first season as Executive Vice President of Football Operations, Parcells fired head coach Cam Cameron, GM Randy Mueller, along with a few assistant coaches, after a 1–15 finish in the 2007 season. With vacancies at the GM and head coaching spots, he brought in Jeff Ireland to be the general manager and signed Tony Sparano as head coach.The new front office under Parcells then signed over 20 little-known players in the free-agent market.In the 2008 draft, they drafted offensive tackle Jake Long with the #1 overall pick, along with Phillip Merling, Kendall Langford, Chad Henne, Lex Hilliard, and Donald Thomas. They also signed undrafted free agents Dan Carpenter and Davone Bess.They also released fan favorite Zach Thomas, who would end signing with the Dallas Cowboys, and traded star defensive end Jason Taylor to the Washington Redskins for a second round pick in the 2009 draft.The Dolphins then went on to sign quarterback Chad Pennington (drafted by Parcells in his Jets days), who was cut by the Jets to make room for Brett Favre.[30]The Dolphins finished the 2008 season 11–5 and became AFC East champions when Pennington and the Dolphins defeated Favre and the Jets in the final game of the season.[31] They finished with a 10 game improvement, tying the 1999 Indianapolis Colts for the best improvement ever. It was also the first time since 2001 the Dolphins made the playoffs. They lost in the first round to the Baltimore Ravens 27–9.sounds like he knows what hes doing
So should I go ahead and pick up Parcells?? Anyone have his combine numbers?
 
bcr8f said:
Kory Sheets should also be considered.
He's the one I like. Before the draft I thought he was highly rated but no one took him.
he moves with the ball very well. i went surfing for his videos on the webs and i find this video discouraging for sheets value:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ5yWWSrfSw

it's a 49ers highlight video from the preseason. and in a highlight video, which contains the 49ers best plays of the game, you see sheets try to pass block three times. once he whiffs and two other times he gets bowled over by second half defenders. he looks about as effective as i'd expect martin grammatica to be when trying to throw a block.

again, i like the way he moves with the ball, but from that video alone, i'd be surprised if he'll see any significant time this season. it's quite common to struggle in pass protection. but it's a whole other thing to get blown up all the time.

he just looks weak.

 
I think this is an opportunity to get out in front of your leaguemates here. There is typically a true sleeper that emerges down the stretch of a season and I think Hillard just could be that guy when you look at this situation. Personally, I think the Wildcat goes toothless without Ronnie and takes a back seat to a more conventional offense. Henne has been decent and servicable, especially when you look at what some other teams are rolling out at QB (looking at Cleveland, Buffalo and Oakland). I think they go more spread formation, run Ricky 15-20 with a few receptions mixed in and see where that takes them. The Cat was being schemed well by defenses anyway and they can keep an element of it in their offense but if you have watched Miami, you know that Ronnie Brown IS the Miami Wildcat offense and all others are trying to copy him. All that being said, I think that RW will be a great play the rest of the way BUT was the split load a blessing for him or holding him back? Time will tell but I don't think he is going to be able to do 15-20 on a regular basis. In steps Hillard. He is a guy that has natural instincts and can bang it bw the tackles which they will need to do. I think Ginn's role will have to come back into play out of the doghouse to help stretch defenses in a more conventional scheme (albeit he still can't catch a cold but at least they can air it out) as are the rest of the below average Miami receivers. I also expect the Miami Defense to play a little better the rest of the way knowing their margin for error is much less now. I am a a believer in Henne who is more than a first year player and I think he is up to the challenge. With a schedule that is not overbearing, I think Miami may surprise people the rest of the way and I think that Hillard is going to be a part of that. Get him on the cheap now before everyone sees tonight's game because I think after tonight, people will better know who he is.
:goodposting: (and excellent screen name!)
 
Better holes than for Ricky I wonder why. Were they blocking better, maybe they didn't respect him but he did look good.

 
Hilliard isn't getting as many touches as I had hoped, but he looks good. I believe he'll become a bigger & bigger part of their offense as the season wears on.

A nice dynasty stash, IMO. Hilliard could be in line for a lot of PT as soon as 2010 if things fall right.

 
Color me impressed with Hilliard (on what few touches he got). This kid is hard to tackle & he's athletic. Hilliard is in a nice situation, as well. He's behind two outstanding RBs, but one has trouble staying healthy & the other is ancient by RB standards.

If Miami passes on taking a RB high in the draft, I really believe Hilliard has a chance to be a huge surprise in the not-too-distant future.

 
kid looked good n tuff. clearly the one to own in a keeper/dynasty/redraft really. (when sheets learns to block then we can look his direction) but that was an NFL calibre running back.

 
I suspect that we will see a lot more Hilliard against Buffalo. Given the short week, and the circumstances, I wasn't expecting to see Hilliard get many touches. But going forward, they will have to monitor Ricky's carries.

 
I suspect that we will see a lot more Hilliard against Buffalo. Given the short week, and the circumstances, I wasn't expecting to see Hilliard get many touches. But going forward, they will have to monitor Ricky's carries.
Not as much that they HAVE to, but judging by how Hilliard ran, they CAN afford to without negatively impacting the offense too much. So since they CAN they likely will, as Ricky is 32 and they need him if they are going to make the playoffs/make a run.
 
I suspect that we will see a lot more Hilliard against Buffalo. Given the short week, and the circumstances, I wasn't expecting to see Hilliard get many touches. But going forward, they will have to monitor Ricky's carries.
Not as much that they HAVE to, but judging by how Hilliard ran, they CAN afford to without negatively impacting the offense too much. So since they CAN they likely will, as Ricky is 32 and they need him if they are going to make the playoffs/make a run.
I don't know. I was watching the game and it seemed like even after Polite fumbled, they still split the carries between him and Hilliard so I don't think they'll make him the clear backup to Williams and just split the backup duties between Polite and Hilliard going forward which sucks. I picked him up after I lost Brown in a redraft league hoping Williams age would make him more prone to injury with the heavier workload but the situation doesn't look too good for a backup RB. It could be they just wanted to see how Polite and Hilliard play and because it was Hilliard's first game they didn't want to use him too much but right now it doesn't look like it will be good for Hilliard this year.
 
I suspect that we will see a lot more Hilliard against Buffalo. Given the short week, and the circumstances, I wasn't expecting to see Hilliard get many touches. But going forward, they will have to monitor Ricky's carries.
Not as much that they HAVE to, but judging by how Hilliard ran, they CAN afford to without negatively impacting the offense too much. So since they CAN they likely will, as Ricky is 32 and they need him if they are going to make the playoffs/make a run.
I don't know. I was watching the game and it seemed like even after Polite fumbled, they still split the carries between him and Hilliard so I don't think they'll make him the clear backup to Williams and just split the backup duties between Polite and Hilliard going forward which sucks. I picked him up after I lost Brown in a redraft league hoping Williams age would make him more prone to injury with the heavier workload but the situation doesn't look too good for a backup RB. It could be they just wanted to see how Polite and Hilliard play and because it was Hilliard's first game they didn't want to use him too much but right now it doesn't look like it will be good for Hilliard this year.
While you are accurate in that Hilliard did not see an increased work load after the fumble, what was more interesting to me was how winded Ricky was on that 1 yard TD run (the pylon dive). He looked exhausted on the sideline after the score. IIRC, there was a short moment he took O2 then the coach sat next to him to discuss plays & such. His fatigue could be a big part of Hilliard's (or whoever emerges as RB2) future. I am a believer in Ricky. Don't own him. Traded Ronnie 3 weeks ago because of what I saw in Ricky. This week, I am playing against him and I am down 54 pts! (he also had Steve Smith Car).Miami Run Offense is a machine that works. They lost 1 part. Who replaces that part will have a high ceiling. I like Hilliard's potential after what I saw from him Thursday. He ran hard & low to the ground. He might not outrun many defenders, but he does not go down on first contact either. There was 1 play the Carolina DT had his back & Hilliard shook him off for a nice gain (maybe 16 yards?). He had 1 run of 14 yards called back on a phantom penalty. Lex Hilliard is a nice surprise.
 
With the short week to prepare and having extra days to rest until their next game, giving RW the load and slowly working in Hilliard worked out nicely. Looking forward to seeing what Lexy does next week.

 
My run down:

Didn't play Division 1, but was a man among boys at the lower level. Maybe like Bernard Scott without all the character issues?

4,000 yards and 52 TDs. Not bad at all for a 6th round pick.

Crappy quality video, but the guy has some moves. Runs both inside and outside.Doesn't seem to like to go down easy. Not a speedster, but runs faster than I'd expect for a 230 lb guy. Rare to see a RB go "over the top" anymore.

Ronnie B has had multiple major injuries in his career. Turns age 28 in 3 weeks. His $5mil salary contract is in limbo for the collective bargaining agreement. 2009: $3,608,399, 2010: Option Year, 2011: Free Agent. Brown's $5 million salary option kicks in if the NFL reaches an agreement with the NFLPA on a new Collective Bargaining Agreement in 2010. If not, Brown becomes a free agent that year.

Ricky is currently age 32. His contract status is as such:

9/1/2009: Signed a two-year, $7.75 million contract. 2009: $3.4 million, 2010: $4.35 million, 2011: Free Agent

Sheets cannot pass block one iota.

Maybe Parcells has a gem here in Hilliard.

I picked him up before yesterday's game as a flier. Made a few good runs. He's an end of the bench "what if" kind of guy.

What say you?

 
I suspect that we will see a lot more Hilliard against Buffalo. Given the short week, and the circumstances, I wasn't expecting to see Hilliard get many touches. But going forward, they will have to monitor Ricky's carries.
Not as much that they HAVE to, but judging by how Hilliard ran, they CAN afford to without negatively impacting the offense too much. So since they CAN they likely will, as Ricky is 32 and they need him if they are going to make the playoffs/make a run.
I don't know. I was watching the game and it seemed like even after Polite fumbled, they still split the carries between him and Hilliard so I don't think they'll make him the clear backup to Williams and just split the backup duties between Polite and Hilliard going forward which sucks. I picked him up after I lost Brown in a redraft league hoping Williams age would make him more prone to injury with the heavier workload but the situation doesn't look too good for a backup RB. It could be they just wanted to see how Polite and Hilliard play and because it was Hilliard's first game they didn't want to use him too much but right now it doesn't look like it will be good for Hilliard this year.
While you are accurate in that Hilliard did not see an increased work load after the fumble, what was more interesting to me was how winded Ricky was on that 1 yard TD run (the pylon dive). He looked exhausted on the sideline after the score. IIRC, there was a short moment he took O2 then the coach sat next to him to discuss plays & such. His fatigue could be a big part of Hilliard's (or whoever emerges as RB2) future. I am a believer in Ricky. Don't own him. Traded Ronnie 3 weeks ago because of what I saw in Ricky. This week, I am playing against him and I am down 54 pts! (he also had Steve Smith Car).Miami Run Offense is a machine that works. They lost 1 part. Who replaces that part will have a high ceiling. I like Hilliard's potential after what I saw from him Thursday. He ran hard & low to the ground. He might not outrun many defenders, but he does not go down on first contact either. There was 1 play the Carolina DT had his back & Hilliard shook him off for a nice gain (maybe 16 yards?). He had 1 run of 14 yards called back on a phantom penalty. Lex Hilliard is a nice surprise.
Dittoeverything...even the part about playing against the Ricky AND Steve Smith owner (except that I didn't trade Ronnie) :goodposting: Picked up Hilliard on redraft and dynasty league. Hopeful in redraft, excited in dynasty.
 
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I think this is an opportunity to get out in front of your leaguemates here. There is typically a true sleeper that emerges down the stretch of a season and I think Hillard just could be that guy when you look at this situation. Personally, I think the Wildcat goes toothless without Ronnie and takes a back seat to a more conventional offense. Henne has been decent and servicable, especially when you look at what some other teams are rolling out at QB (looking at Cleveland, Buffalo and Oakland). I think they go more spread formation, run Ricky 15-20 with a few receptions mixed in and see where that takes them. The Cat was being schemed well by defenses anyway and they can keep an element of it in their offense but if you have watched Miami, you know that Ronnie Brown IS the Miami Wildcat offense and all others are trying to copy him. All that being said, I think that RW will be a great play the rest of the way BUT was the split load a blessing for him or holding him back? Time will tell but I don't think he is going to be able to do 15-20 on a regular basis. In steps Hillard. He is a guy that has natural instincts and can bang it bw the tackles which they will need to do. I think Ginn's role will have to come back into play out of the doghouse to help stretch defenses in a more conventional scheme (albeit he still can't catch a cold but at least they can air it out) as are the rest of the below average Miami receivers. I also expect the Miami Defense to play a little better the rest of the way knowing their margin for error is much less now. I am a a believer in Henne who is more than a first year player and I think he is up to the challenge. With a schedule that is not overbearing, I think Miami may surprise people the rest of the way and I think that Hillard is going to be a part of that. Get him on the cheap now before everyone sees tonight's game because I think after tonight, people will better know who he is.
:wub: (and excellent screen name!)
Except for the fact that there were a few points that didn't make sense. I agree if you remove the following:Why in the world can't Ricky do 15-20 on a regular basis (he just went 22), but 15 -20 isn't much?The problem with the spread you recommend is the Dolphins receivers are the weakest part of their offense.How is it possible the defense play better because their margin for error is less?
 
the guys was a human highlight reel at rb and special teams for the jets last night when shonne green went out. they even brought him out for the overtime coin toss. i was chillin with some of his kalispel homies for the game.

good times. :thumbup:

 

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