Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Having a gut feeling. No particular reason why...
So Jets 42 Lions 10 will probably end up being the final stat line.
So Jets 42 Lions 10 will probably end up being the final stat line.
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Lions beat Jets today... (1 Viewer)
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groin pains
Footballguy
I can see it happening!
Masked Vigilante
Footballguy
The Lions have a very good nucleus to build around. They will be a playoff team, next year.
packersfan
Footballguy
I wouldn't be surprised if they had the best record in the NFC North the rest of the season. If Best was healthy, they'd have balance offensively and their defense is really improved. I like what they're doing in Detroit. I'm not picking them today over the Jets but it wouldn't surprise me if they won. This is going to be a very difficult challenge for the Jets pass defense. Even if Revis shuts down or controls Megatron, you still have Burleson, Pettigrew and Scheffler to deal with. Detroit has a lot of weapons for Stafford to work with.
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Addai's Adidas
Footballguy
As a Lions fan let me just say you must all be stoned.
Touchdown There
Footballguy
But I am interested to see what happens. If they are a real team they can score 24+ on the Jets D.
The Lions have built something, finally. They have shown a lot of heart this year. Their young weapons are impressive. If they ae not taken very seriously they are capable of winning on nearly any week. It will be interesting to see which of Stafford and Sanchez handels the other teams pressure better.
Addai's Adidas
Footballguy
They'll play a good game, but will ultimately lose on a false start penalty by Bachus, followed by a turnover at a key moment.
Reaper
Footballguy
Sure.. Why not?
IMO, the Lions are now a good team and any good team can beat any team especially at home....
The Jets to me are still a work in progress as well.. Sanchez is hopefully growing and more important than anything else the Jets defense lacks a real Pass rush.... The Jets defense sells out a good percentage of the time which either makes them look real good when they get to the QB or a pass is rushed or REAL BAD when a QB has all day to find an Open WR.... If that happens to be a Calvin Johnson then they could easily fall into a hole regardless of who the CB's are... You don't want to have to see Mark Sanchez try to come back at this point.
This defense is all or nothing but... But, With Pace and Revis getting back to form hopefully for the Jets that aspect is improved a little.
I'm sure I agree with most non-Jets fans whan I say I would take Stafford over Sanchez.
IMO, the Lions are now a good team and any good team can beat any team especially at home....
The Jets to me are still a work in progress as well.. Sanchez is hopefully growing and more important than anything else the Jets defense lacks a real Pass rush.... The Jets defense sells out a good percentage of the time which either makes them look real good when they get to the QB or a pass is rushed or REAL BAD when a QB has all day to find an Open WR.... If that happens to be a Calvin Johnson then they could easily fall into a hole regardless of who the CB's are... You don't want to have to see Mark Sanchez try to come back at this point.
This defense is all or nothing but... But, With Pace and Revis getting back to form hopefully for the Jets that aspect is improved a little.
I'm sure I agree with most non-Jets fans whan I say I would take Stafford over Sanchez.
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Dizzy
Footballguy
Yeah, you never want to catch a good team the week AFTER they lay an egg.I've got LTII and Tron going today though... so here's to a 45-42 OT victory for whoever.
Tornacl
Footballguy
Dought Man
Footballguy
Calvin has 2 TDs and 154 yards..but its not enough, as a late Jets drive seals the victory for Gang Green... 27-21.
J Best 26 yards rushing, 38 yards receiving.
J Best 26 yards rushing, 38 yards receiving.
Crash Davis
Footballguy
So they are only a "real team" if they can do what no other team has been able to do this season?But I am interested to see what happens. If they are a real team they can score 24+ on the Jets D.
ETA: I'll be pretty disappointed if the Jets lay two consecutive eggs coming off the bye back to back years. The Lions are much improved and they have talent on both sides of the ball, but the Jets should be able to limit their passing game enough and move the ball on them both on the ground and in the air. The two teams that beat the Jets this year scored a combined 19 points, but held the Jets under 10. I don't see the Lions defense limiting the Jet offense to that degree. It should be a good game, but i'm hoping/expecting the Jets to take care of business.
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Liquid Tension
Footballguy
The Jet defense played great last week; they are a great unit...IMO the best overall in football. The key to them winning is their offense. The talent is there and as much as I don't like the Jets, they can be as good as any team in the league. Their HC is not very good though...
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I have been watching the Lion this year and it has been a load of fun.
They've been competitive, tough, resilient, they've taken chances.
I don't think these guys know they're out of it. They're 2 games out of a wildcard spot and this is a huge game.
The Jets were SHUT OUT last week. At home. I am kind of surprised this has not been talked about more.
Will anyone really be surprised if the Lions win today (besides many Lions fans whom I udnerstand are just in permanent shell shock and will be until a thaw happens)???
They've been competitive, tough, resilient, they've taken chances.
I don't think these guys know they're out of it. They're 2 games out of a wildcard spot and this is a huge game.
The Jets were SHUT OUT last week. At home. I am kind of surprised this has not been talked about more.
Will anyone really be surprised if the Lions win today (besides many Lions fans whom I udnerstand are just in permanent shell shock and will be until a thaw happens)???
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
The Lions are better from the viewpoint they are more competitive. But its a results oriented league; you are what your record says you are. They're a 2-5 team with a 24 game losing streak on the road - it doesn't really matter they could have won at Chicago and at Green Bay and at New Jersey. They didn't.
Until you beat someone you're not supposed to, you haven't improved. The St. Louis game was fun because we haven't had a blowout win in several years. The 'skins game was a terrific effort by the front four, and the gunslinger knows his guy will fight for it.
(Aside: Stafford's quote on the game winner to Calvin: We're gonna look at the film, but I just cut it lose and let that ##### ride!)
They're a fun team. The crowd will be into it.
But until you beat someone you're not supposed to, you haven't really improved.
Until you beat someone you're not supposed to, you haven't improved. The St. Louis game was fun because we haven't had a blowout win in several years. The 'skins game was a terrific effort by the front four, and the gunslinger knows his guy will fight for it.
(Aside: Stafford's quote on the game winner to Calvin: We're gonna look at the film, but I just cut it lose and let that ##### ride!)
They're a fun team. The crowd will be into it.
But until you beat someone you're not supposed to, you haven't really improved.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
meh...
Calvin gets shut down, and the DET O has a hard time moving the ball as a whole.
Jets 29
Lions 13
Calvin gets shut down, and the DET O has a hard time moving the ball as a whole.
Jets 29
Lions 13
Double D
Footballguy
Like I said, you improve immediately just by getting rid of Matt the fraud Millen! It's called "stopping the bleeding".
Dought Man
Footballguy
Forgot to add, Sanchez should have a HUGE day. 315/3 seems likely..
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Is there a strong correlation between 'as Calvin goes, so goes the Lions offense'?His three worst games (fewest catches all year PLUS least yardage):4-45-04-50-1 and a 2 pt conv4-54-1In the first game, they lost on the road to the Bears 14-19. You may recall their was a booth review that overturned what looked like a TD by Calvin near the end of the game.The next week they put upt 32 points on the Eagles.The other 4 catch game this year came against the Rams. The final score was 44-6.While there is not question who the man is in Detroit, they do have others ways to move the chains.
Saint
Footballguy
I really want to watch this game. Mainly I think the Lions will be competitive. I think this game is going to be decided by a FG or less. I do think the NYJ pull off the win, but that's because the Lions, as a young team, will make a mistake that costs them. This should be a fun game to watch. From a wager standpoint, I take the Lions with the 3.5 pts. =)
Neofight
Footballguy
I was thinking he will be pressured into at least one pick. Alphonso Smith is on a roll right now and Suh, KVB and Avril could make it a very difficult day for the Jets vautned O-line. If they do, no way Sanchez puts up those kind of numbers.I like the Lions in this one too. Should be a helluva game either way. You can smell the sweat on the brow of some of the Jets fans posting in this thread...
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
The Ravens beat the Jets 10-9 and the Packers won 9-0. They didn't score 24 points combined......are the Ravens and Jets not real teams, or maybe you can define your definition of what a real team is for us?But I am interested to see what happens. If they are a real team they can score 24+ on the Jets D.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
I'd feel much better if this was a home game. Close to a toss-up in DET, although I expect the Jets to win. 20-17.
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
This is all true, except they are 3-4 and a call so bad they will change the rule made that happen. Based on their legit play they are 3-4 and clearly heading the right way. The Jets are a tough team though and winning at home would be a huge boost and make going into Detroit a very tough place...Next on the docket would be learning to get the win on the road.
KGB
Footballguy
disagree. I dont have the stats in front of me, but DET D is solid and pretty damn aggressive. Sanchez is a choaker.
Football Critic
Footballguy
Ummmmmm, the lions are still 2-5?
Yes they are improved in a personel sense, but your only as good as your record. You can say well if Stafford wasnt injured, and if Best wasnt either, but injuries are a part of the game so that does not help in an argument. The Lions still have to play road games as well, and as everyone knows, the Lions do not play on the road.
Lions will be a team to discuss for the playoffs next year I believe, but until then......they are still 2-5 and if they win today 3-5...far from a good team as some suggest.
Yes they are improved in a personel sense, but your only as good as your record. You can say well if Stafford wasnt injured, and if Best wasnt either, but injuries are a part of the game so that does not help in an argument. The Lions still have to play road games as well, and as everyone knows, the Lions do not play on the road.
Lions will be a team to discuss for the playoffs next year I believe, but until then......they are still 2-5 and if they win today 3-5...far from a good team as some suggest.
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
Man, I always hate when people say so and so is a choker...that is almost always wrong. I don't like the jets, but Sanchez played fairly well in his 3 postseason games all on the road. He didn't play well against SD, but did great against Cinci and did fairly well against Indy.The same people said Manning was a choker because he couldn't win the big one and the same people say Marino was a choker...it is just wrong and football being a team sport makes this even more off base.Back to your originally scheduled programming.
Football Critic
Footballguy
No they are 2-5, it says it in every paper, on every website, and in everything that matters....they are 2-5. What ifs are not part of the game, but the rules are part of the game. the 3-4 statement is just
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ProBowler88
Footballguy
nice to see the OP is already drunk.
Jets 30 Lions 14
Jets 30 Lions 14
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
What are you predicting for Stafford?The Jets have given up 1530 yards passing.The Lions have given up 1539 yards passing.The Jets have given up 10 passing TDs.The Lions have given up 11 passing TDs.The Jets have 5 interceptions.The Lions have 8 interceptions.The Jets have 15 sacks.The Lions have 23 sacks.The Jets have the best defense in the NFL; just ask anyone.The Lions have a horrible defense; just ask anyone.
PolishNorbi
Footballguy
I guess record means absolutely everything. Bucs are 5-2, means they MUST be better than everyone but the Giants/Falcons in the NFC.Their 5 losses: Bears (Should be a W), Eagles by 3, Packers by 2, Giants by 8, and Vikings by 2 TDs.Doesn't seem that bad if you look at would they lost to.Football Critic said:
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I would have to agree. If you're a Jets fan and you're looking at this game in the preseason, you have to consider this a win when you're counting up your hypothetical wins and losses. If the Jets lose to the Lions, I don't care where the game is, they simply are not as good as people thought when the season started.Chase Stuart said:
PolishNorbi
Footballguy
You can't say they really haven't improved. 27th in Off, 32nd in Def last year 6th and 26th this year. Margin of Victory -14.5pts. They haven't lost a game yet by the margin and that was their last year AVERAGE. EDIT: Didn't completely read the first sentence, but either way with a bit of luck in any of their games this year and they could have won which sports are about sometimes, just a bit of luck.BobbyLayne said:
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dehaven123
Footballguy
Lions could win today, as could any other team.
The Rams are the better up and coming team though and have the better QB already.
The Rams are the better up and coming team though and have the better QB already.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
If you're new to Lions talk - granted, there's usually not much of it except from a fantasy perspective - I've been saying this for weeks.Its not that I don't think they are better; of course they are, even a chid can recognize that they are more competitive.
But I get sick of Lions fans who are content with seeing incremental improvement. And I get pissed off at the condescending pat on the head from Giants/Packers/Patriots/Steerlers fans 'Aw, you're guys are good this year'.
One thing I like about Jim Schwartz is he is not content with statistical improvement; he wants wins. You hear that mentality in the players comments. They are not content with just being competitive.
Unfortunately the Lions fans often don't share that mentality. They look at CJ2 and Stafford and Suh and Best and think, OK, they're trying. Not good enough. They expect more from themselves, and so should you.
Reaper
Footballguy
Don't go by me.... I've been watching the Jets for over 30 years and there hasn't been 1 game that I haven't sweat. Not one. I tell it like it is and in today's NFL any good team can beat anyone, especially at home and I like Detroit a lot, they are and will continue to be a fun team to watch - I loaded up on Detroit players this FF season a lot more than Jets.Like I said, I'd take Stafford over Sanchez, it's not like the Jets really had that option though.Neofight said:
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Donnybrook
Footballguy
I have the same gut feeling about Browns beating New England. Although the Browns have lost several games, they really haven't been blown out of any of them. Probably just wishful thinking on my part.
Johnny Ice
Footballguy
Dought Man said:
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the Lions be the only team in the Norris to win today.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I just want to point out - for the benefit of folks who will be watching today and haven't seen the Lions yet this year - Detroit doesn't blitz. The Jets do, often, especially in key situations when they need a big play. Detroit's DBs have been surprisingly competent this year; the LBs, not so much. What they get done on defense is all attributable to the two new guys up front, Suh and Vanden Bosch.
I think they can stop Sanchez and the passing game because they usually get a great push. What concerns me is LT2 and Greene; they've had trouble with quality backs (Forte, McCoy, Peterson, Bradshaw/Jacobs).
On offense, I think there is a tremendous opportunity to exploit New York with screen passes. I'm hoping the TEs get more involved this week as well (they did well when Shaun Hill was playing). I'm not expecting much from the running game - Best has struggled often, and Smith can't handle a heavy load (basically playing while rehabbing).
Biggest concern, as always, is stupid penalties and mental mistakes. Its a winnable game, but the margin for error is slim.
I think they can stop Sanchez and the passing game because they usually get a great push. What concerns me is LT2 and Greene; they've had trouble with quality backs (Forte, McCoy, Peterson, Bradshaw/Jacobs).
On offense, I think there is a tremendous opportunity to exploit New York with screen passes. I'm hoping the TEs get more involved this week as well (they did well when Shaun Hill was playing). I'm not expecting much from the running game - Best has struggled often, and Smith can't handle a heavy load (basically playing while rehabbing).
Biggest concern, as always, is stupid penalties and mental mistakes. Its a winnable game, but the margin for error is slim.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Really, they just played and the Lions won 44-6 and the Lions had their backup QB in, want to rethink that?
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Right, whether you wanted to or not, it's not like the Jets had the chance, Stafford was gone No. 1 overall.It's more along the Lions do the Lions wish they took Sanchez over Stafford since they were the only team that had the choice between both of them.
Reaper
Footballguy
Good points, like I said above the Jets D sells out A LOT... That means Feast or Famine... Losing Jenkins, our version of Suh meant a lot. and Pace is really the only pass rusher.The two games the Jets lost were all about Stupid penalties and mental mistakes so, that goes for both teams.. Not to mention the horrible Ref calls we have seen all over this year. Let the players play.... Win or lose, I just hate any team having to say "well, we should have overcome those calls"... Just let them play. Let Cro/Revis and Calvin Battle.... Let the Jets WR"s battle for the ball... Stop with the Phantom holding calls... Eat the Flag and let the players Play!!!
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