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This is the correct Saints pick.2. New Orleans Saints D'Brickashaw Ferguson (OT, Virginia)
I think they might move down, but if they don't they go with the big bookend tackle to protect Mr. Brees.
I agree on this pick. Some say they might take Mario, but this is the direction they need to go..2. New Orleans Saints D'Brickashaw Ferguson (OT, Virginia)
I think they might move down, but if they don't they go with the big bookend tackle to protect Mr. Brees.
Agree 100%.I PM'd -OZ-..... it's probably a good idea going forward to PM the guy behind you if you haven't seen him lurking about recently.I agree on this pick. Some say they might take Mario, but this is the direction they need to go..2. New Orleans Saints D'Brickashaw Ferguson (OT, Virginia)
I think they might move down, but if they don't they go with the big bookend tackle to protect Mr. Brees.
good ideaAgree 100%.I PM'd -OZ-..... it's probably a good idea going forward to PM the guy behind you if you haven't seen him lurking about recently.I agree on this pick. Some say they might take Mario, but this is the direction they need to go..2. New Orleans Saints D'Brickashaw Ferguson (OT, Virginia)
I think they might move down, but if they don't they go with the big bookend tackle to protect Mr. Brees.
There was an interesting Article today on sportingnews site about their other Tackle Offensive lineman Jammal Brown, the Saints' top draft pick last season moving to the other side this year because they believe that he can play left side and use their draft pick on someone else.SportingnewsI agree on this pick. Some say they might take Mario, but this is the direction they need to go..2. New Orleans Saints D'Brickashaw Ferguson (OT, Virginia)
I think they might move down, but if they don't they go with the big bookend tackle to protect Mr. Brees.
I just e-mailed you - sorry, you were quicker than I.1.05 AJ Hawk
Sorry Andy.
Just as a sidebar, I have heard a lot of rumor that the Broncos are on the verge of trading Ashley Lelie, and are planning on moving up to #5 or #6 to take Davis. I will now excuse myself while Andy D's head explodes.1.6 Vernon “Da Freak” Davis, TE – Mayland
With EJ coming off another season full of injuries, I don’t see how the 49ers will be able to pass on VD. If EJ does happen to comeback and play a full season, the 49ers will have the most dominating TE duo in the league. This pick will also help Alex Smith mature into the QB the 49ers are hoping he will turn into. For a young QB to mature quickly, he needs a dominating TE. For example, Brees wasn’t that great until Gates came along. Eli Manning has Shockey and is maturing each time he steps on the field. This move doesn’t just help Alex Smith; it also helps the running game. For a team to have a running game, they have to establish the passing game and VD will help to establish the passing game the 49ers are looking for.
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I do not think Ashley Lelie is worth a #5 or #6 pick. And the 49ers just traded Brandon Lloyd whom I would consider a better WR than AL. If Denver is going to trade up I do not think it will be with the 49ers.Sorry didn't mean to highjack.Just as a sidebar, I have heard a lot of rumor that the Broncos are on the verge of trading Ashley Lelie, and are planning on moving up to #5 or #6 to take Davis. I will now excuse myself while Andy D's head explodes.1.6 Vernon “Da Freak” Davis, TE – Mayland
With EJ coming off another season full of injuries, I don’t see how the 49ers will be able to pass on VD. If EJ does happen to comeback and play a full season, the 49ers will have the most dominating TE duo in the league. This pick will also help Alex Smith mature into the QB the 49ers are hoping he will turn into. For a young QB to mature quickly, he needs a dominating TE. For example, Brees wasn’t that great until Gates came along. Eli Manning has Shockey and is maturing each time he steps on the field. This move doesn’t just help Alex Smith; it also helps the running game. For a team to have a running game, they have to establish the passing game and VD will help to establish the passing game the 49ers are looking for.
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Interesting. I assume they don't expect to get the #6 pick for the 15 and lelie. Lelie might be worth a 3rd. What did Lloyd go for?Just as a sidebar, I have heard a lot of rumor that the Broncos are on the verge of trading Ashley Lelie, and are planning on moving up to #5 or #6 to take Davis.
I would think it would take something like both Denver's 1sts + Lelie for the 5th overall (Davis) + a 3rd/4th rounderBy the way, Lloyd went for a 2006 3rd AND a 2007 4thInteresting. I assume they don't expect to get the #6 pick for the 15 and lelie. Lelie might be worth a 3rd. What did Lloyd go for?Just as a sidebar, I have heard a lot of rumor that the Broncos are on the verge of trading Ashley Lelie, and are planning on moving up to #5 or #6 to take Davis.
Ask and ye shall receive:1.4 - N.Y. Jets - Mario Williams, DE, N.C. State
find me one who doesn't think Williams will be an immediate impact player.
Mario Williams, DE, North Carolina State: 6-7, 295. Posted just one sack in first five games of '05 when opponents kept cut-blocking him. After learning how to cope, he put up 13 1/2 sacks in last seven games, including four against Southern Mississippi and Maryland and three against Wake Forest. "The big question will be, why did he underachieve the first half of the season?" one scout said. "Now in the second half the majority of those sacks came against bad players. Let's don't underestimate that."
No, it would be two separate trades. Lelie to whomever for whatever compensation they agree on, then the #15 and #22 picks go to either GB or SF for the #5 or #6 pick.Interesting. I assume they don't expect to get the #6 pick for the 15 and lelie. Lelie might be worth a 3rd. What did Lloyd go for?Just as a sidebar, I have heard a lot of rumor that the Broncos are on the verge of trading Ashley Lelie, and are planning on moving up to #5 or #6 to take Davis.
Bravo.Ask and ye shall receive:1.4 - N.Y. Jets - Mario Williams, DE, N.C. State
find me one who doesn't think Williams will be an immediate impact player.Mario Williams, DE, North Carolina State: 6-7, 295. Posted just one sack in first five games of '05 when opponents kept cut-blocking him. After learning how to cope, he put up 13 1/2 sacks in last seven games, including four against Southern Mississippi and Maryland and three against Wake Forest. "The big question will be, why did he underachieve the first half of the season?" one scout said. "Now in the second half the majority of those sacks came against bad players. Let's don't underestimate that."
If someone waits 30 minutes to pick, then by all means, make the pick.I'm down for putting somekind of time limit on picks . What do you guys think is fair?
I can do the Raiders pick this round if wanted.I'm down for putting somekind of time limit on picks . What do you guys think is fair?
From Mike Mulligan in the Chicago SunTimes:A.J. HAWK Ohio State linebacker Only one linebacker, LaVar Arrington, has been taken among the top five picks over the last nine drafts, but plenty of draftniks figure Hawk will break that trend. He was an ultra-productive college player who produced 368 career tackles, including 37 for losses and 141/2 sacks with 91/2 of those coming last year. The Bears made Brian Urlacher the No. 9 selection in 2000, and you can argue that was a projection pick on a college safety as opposed to a proven commodity such as Hawk, who dominated at the highest level. Hawk had the same 40-yard dash time as Young (4.59) but is not nearly the same boom-or-bust pick. Barring injury, he should be a tremendous NFL player. Still, he might be more likely to free-fall out of the top 10 than anyone because the position he plays might be the deepest on the board.5 Green Bay -Kleck -AJ Hawk (OLB, Ohio State) Sorry Andy
I'd say 30-60 mins during business hours. if we have a clock after hours, I'm going to get timed out, so whatever you guys want to do, I can't really set those ground rules.I'm down for putting somekind of time limit on picks . What do you guys think is fair?
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I've heard that also and i hope it doesn't happen. If it does and the niners dont' draft VD a lot of then to make the pain go away.I do not think Ashley Lelie is worth a #5 or #6 pick. And the 49ers just traded Brandon Lloyd whom I would consider a better WR than AL. If Denver is going to trade up I do not think it will be with the 49ers.Sorry didn't mean to highjack.Just as a sidebar, I have heard a lot of rumor that the Broncos are on the verge of trading Ashley Lelie, and are planning on moving up to #5 or #6 to take Davis. I will now excuse myself while Andy D's head explodes.1.6 Vernon “Da Freak” Davis, TE – Mayland
With EJ coming off another season full of injuries, I don’t see how the 49ers will be able to pass on VD. If EJ does happen to comeback and play a full season, the 49ers will have the most dominating TE duo in the league. This pick will also help Alex Smith mature into the QB the 49ers are hoping he will turn into. For a young QB to mature quickly, he needs a dominating TE. For example, Brees wasn’t that great until Gates came along. Eli Manning has Shockey and is maturing each time he steps on the field. This move doesn’t just help Alex Smith; it also helps the running game. For a team to have a running game, they have to establish the passing game and VD will help to establish the passing game the 49ers are looking for.
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Vince Young IMO30 min it is. if time runs out I'll ty tomake the most logical pick and we can move on.
FWIW, This is why I was looking to trade down.I'd rather have VY and a 2nd than Leinart.Oakland takes: Vince Young, QB, Texas
I've been saving some very funny but mostly very harsh criticism from scouts only and about 40 of the top 50 prospects. It should make for comic relief before the draft if I ever edit it into one article. One scout or another thinks every player in this draft stinks. One scout pretty much says that. "They're all pretty weak. This class is a disappointment. There's noone out there to help us."Bravo.
I have training all day tomorrow and wednesday. Don't know if or how often i'll have access to the net.edit: If everyone chooses to do it tomorrow, i could probably PM 5Rings (fellow niner fan), to see if he would be interested in doing the 2nd round.blkgolf23 PMd said he would pick in a few. I didn't see the message. Let's give him a little time.
I'm here all day till at least 10 PM EST. What do you guys want to do about the 2nd round? tonight or tomorrow morning?
Please NO!Haha I hope we can pass on another Texas DB... see Westbrook.1.9 Detroit Lions- Michael Huff.
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I don't see how the 49ers could pass up on a VD as well.With EJ coming off another season full of injuries, I don’t see how the 49ers will be able to pass on VD.
Please note that he (Justice)was taken.I would have taken him.Please NO!Haha I hope we can pass on another Texas DB... see Westbrook.1.9 Detroit Lions- Michael Huff.
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Winston Justice here please!
Sure - this isn't espionage, just a mock draft.BPA in my opinion and a need for a poor Lions Secondary.
6' 1", 205 Pounds, ferocious tackler, skilled ballhawk, runs like the wind {4.3's}, and can excell at Safety or Corner.
For the record had 2 trade offers for this spot.
Not sure if I am allowed to discuss.