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Living in Germany (1 Viewer)

rascal

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I have an opportunity to go work in Germany (Wiesbaden or Ramstein) or UK for 3 years.  Wife and I have been in UK numerous times, and they speak English, so that isn't up for debate.  But we are unsure about Germany (neither of us speak German).  We have three kids (8, 2, 2).  It would be financially advantageous to go, but life isn't all about money.

Has anyone lived in Germany, or those areas, and can they provide their thoughts?  TIA!!!!

 
I think it would be a great experience for the 8 year old.  The Twins may not even remember much of it should you return stateside in 3 years. Do it. 

 
Do it.  Don't look back.  Challenge yourself.  Your children's lives and trajectories will be improved because of this move.

 
Your children will learn a foreign language with ease that they will thank you for later. You will too. Many Germans speak English so you'll get by easier than you think. 

And no Trump.

No brainer.

 
I spent a summer there while I was in HS doing a summer school exchange program.  I can speak German decently, but everyone there speaks English (most better than many Americans).  If the language is all that is holding you back, go for it.  It's an awesome country and the people are great.

 
My wife is concerned about the twins, no family/friends, and just being a major change.
I can see not having a support system of family and friends around being an obstacle. If the UK was a definite, I wouldn't let the language difference stop you and your family from the experience in Germany. Wiesbaden is very close to Frankfurt, which is a major airline hub, so travelling back to the US from time to time would be easy.

 
My wife was just over there by herself for the entire month of January for work.

She absolutely loved it and as others have said she spoke English everywhere she went, so no language barrier. Look into it and do your research!

GL

 
My wife is concerned about the twins, no family/friends, and just being a major change.
Worrying about the twins seems like nonsense (no offense intended). The lack of family and friends is a minor issue, but more real that the kid worry. It would be a major change, but isnt that the point? Great opportunity IMO. 

 
my brother is living there now. going on 5 years, i think.

he spoke no German when he arrived.  most Germans speak English. you'll be fine. you'll pick up the language as you go.

 
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Almost had a chance to do this but it never happened as they decided to leave the job I was being promoted to in North America. 

Still wish that I got the chance. My kids were 6 and 4 at the time. They would have loved it I am sure. 

One thing to consider, is how much do you rely on your family/social network. For us it was virtually nill, but I know some people see their family daily so that would be a harder adjustment. 

 
I lived in Germany for 2 years - one during my Jr. year in college and a second between undergrad and grad school. I loved living there and have no regrets, but didn't have a family with me which significantly changes the math on something like this.  I don't necessarily agree with the comments that most Germans know English. That is not true in my experience, at least not as compared to places like Holland or Sweden, where even blue-collar types typically speak passable English. In Germany, university grads and professionals typically speak decent English, but most people you encounter - for example in retail, waitresses, barbers, bartenders, cops, etc., and others you interact with on a daily basis just getting #### done - typically do not speak English.

HOWEVER -- both Ramstein and Weisbaden are big US Military enclaves (both near Frankfurt), so that kind of changes the analysis.  I didn't spend time in either city, but my understanding is these areas are much more geared toward Americans, just due to having tens of thousands of US military there, in many cases included spouses and kids.  This can be good and bad.  Good, because your family is likely to be able to find other Americans to associate with, find American food, newspapers, etc. In general, the cultural transition is probably softened quite a bit compared to living in someplace like Hamburg or Berlin. The downside is that its hard to get immersed in the local culture when surrounded by ex-pats from your own culture. Kids are less likely to learn German and integrate into the culture if they don't have to. They won't play soccer if there's a local American football club stocked with American kids.  And, in some instances, I think there is sometimes some degree of animosity toward Americans in these areas. Its something to look into and ask about. You can imagine if there were 20,000 German soldiers living somewhere in Kansas, a vestige of a prior generation's military and political humiliation and shame, with soldiers doing what soldiers do, the locals might not have an entirely unbiased or positive view toward Germans in general.

I recommend doing this and would love to have the opportunity myself, but it is worth considering how flexible your family is, as there will likely be an adjustment period and some difficulty with the transition.

 
I lived in Germany for 2 years - one during my Jr. year in college and a second between undergrad and grad school. I loved living there and have no regrets, but didn't have a family with me which significantly changes the math on something like this.  I don't necessarily agree with the comments that most Germans know English. That is not true in my experience, at least not as compared to places like Holland or Sweden, where even blue-collar types typically speak passable English. In Germany, university grads and professionals typically speak decent English, but most people you encounter - for example in retail, waitresses, barbers, bartenders, cops, etc., and others you interact with on a daily basis just getting #### done - typically do not speak English.

HOWEVER -- both Ramstein and Weisbaden are big US Military enclaves (both near Frankfurt), so that kind of changes the analysis.  I didn't spend time in either city, but my understanding is these areas are much more geared toward Americans, just due to having tens of thousands of US military there, in many cases included spouses and kids.  This can be good and bad.  Good, because your family is likely to be able to find other Americans to associate with, find American food, newspapers, etc. In general, the cultural transition is probably softened quite a bit compared to living in someplace like Hamburg or Berlin. The downside is that its hard to get immersed in the local culture when surrounded by ex-pats from your own culture. Kids are less likely to learn German and integrate into the culture if they don't have to. They won't play soccer if there's a local American football club stocked with American kids.  And, in some instances, I think there is sometimes some degree of animosity toward Americans in these areas. Its something to look into and ask about. You can imagine if there were 20,000 German soldiers living somewhere in Kansas, a vestige of a prior generation's military and political humiliation and shame, with soldiers doing what soldiers do, the locals might not have an entirely unbiased or positive view toward Germans in general.

I recommend doing this and would love to have the opportunity myself, but it is worth considering how flexible your family is, as there will likely be an adjustment period and some difficulty with the transition.
Wow...great post.  Thanks! 

That is one of my concerns as well.  I'm not sure who to ask to be honest.

 
The Duff Man said:
Almost had a chance to do this but it never happened as they decided to leave the job I was being promoted to in North America. 

Still wish that I got the chance. My kids were 6 and 4 at the time. They would have loved it I am sure. 

One thing to consider, is how much do you rely on your family/social network. For us it was virtually nill, but I know some people see their family daily so that would be a harder adjustment. 
Yeap...We rely on my wife's family network due to the twins.

 
I would do it in a heartbeat. The chance to widen your perspective is invaluable, both for you and your kids. Any challenges you might encounter are greatly outweighed by that experience. Things like language or the number of Americans already there are just excuses imo. Biggest potential "downside" might be a reluctance to move back when the gig is over.

 
Ive done extensive research in the past 20 years on German bukake videos. That alone is worth the trip.

 
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I would do it in a heartbeat. The chance to widen your perspective is invaluable, both for you and your kids. Any challenges you might encounter are greatly outweighed by that experience. Things like language or the number of Americans already there are just excuses imo. Biggest potential "downside" might be a reluctance to move back when the gig is over.
plus all of that sausage!

 
plus all of that sausage!
And best beer in the world imo. They know how to use hops to give a beer depths of flavor instead of something that tastes like a ####### pine cone that some jackass in a hipster beard will sip and discuss with his jackass friends.

 
Accept this assignment yesterday and don't think twice about it.  

An international secondment will be an invaluable growing and learning experience for all three of your young children.  

An absolute no brainer IMHO.

 
I would do this.  Your oldest will be back in the states before high school.  This sounds like an opportunity that may not come around again.   Only live once, take a chance.  go for it.

 
That's a lot of change for a family, especially with young kids.  Obviously your choice but I wouldn't do it.

 
Why would anyone want to move to Germany? It is a very dangerous place right now because of all the refugees and I surely wouldn't want to risk my family's safety

 
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Die sonne scheint und der himmel ist blah.

That's about what I remember from my one semester of German in college.

 
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Why would anyone want to move to Germany? It is a very dangerous place right now because of all the refugees and I surely wouldn't want to risk my family's safety
Id report you for being a moron, but you already know that about yourself. 

Higgs is too for liking your post, couple of clueless dooshcanoes. Seriously Higgs, stop liking that ######s posts.  I'm tired of it and thus tired of you encouraging him. 

 
Aaaand they're off! ? 
Exactly. Why would you encourage ruining rascals thread? Makes me think less of you. 

The only thing dfsguy ever did for his country was give a handy to a guy wearing a TrumpAmerica hat in an ally in Louisville. If you want me to associate you with him, gitty up. 

 
We just came back from 4 years in Japan.  It was a fantastic experience and I highly recommend going overseas if you get an opportunity. 

Between Germany and UK, I'd pick Germany mainly because it is more centrally located for weekend sightseeing trips.  There will be a big American presence there if worried about diving in without speaking the language.

 
Id report you for being a moron, but you already know that about yourself. 

Higgs is too for liking your post, couple of clueless dooshcanoes. Seriously Higgs, stop liking that ######s posts.  I'm tired of it and thus tired of you encouraging him. 
Detroit, I am not asking this to insult you but are you a female? You seem very emotional. I posted a fact and if you don't like it instead of having a nervous breakdown you can put me on ignore.

 
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Ooooooooof


Mostly hyperbole GB! 

Serious answer... If I were single I'd do it in a heartbeat, ive heard stories. 

As a father of two girls, 10 & 12, I having enough trouble getting them to move 20 minutes north much less across the pond. 

 
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