LJ injury update(s) - post here (1 Viewer)

[BigRed]

And spare us the "not another LJ thread' whine. You can't search on "LJ" and I didn't see anything other than a more general thread or 2 abuot LJ and KC. Think it's worth a thread only to post/discuss his status.

That said, FYI/FWIW:

Profootballtalk.com reports that Larry Johnson has a Lisfranc injury that will be treated by rest and rehab.

Impact: And on it goes. This supports our report Monday that the Chiefs and Johnson expect the runner to miss the rest of the season. Now with Priest Holmes' status uncertain, the Chiefs are hurting for runners. It's important to note that Johnson is not expected to undergo surgery, which would make his rehab far shorter than similar cases like Kevin Jones and Dwight Freeney.

 

[Carr 2 Smith]

Lame.

look here, here or here. All on the 1st 2 pages. All filled with as much speculation as your post.

 

[moderated]

And spare us the "not another LJ thread' whine. You can't search on "LJ" and I didn't see anything other than a more general thread or 2 abuot LJ and KC. Think it's worth a thread only to post/discuss his status.

That said, FYI/FWIW:

Profootballtalk.com reports that Larry Johnson has a Lisfranc injury that will be treated by rest and rehab.

Impact: And on it goes. This supports our report Monday that the Chiefs and Johnson expect the runner to miss the rest of the season. Now with Priest Holmes' status uncertain, the Chiefs are hurting for runners. It's important to note that Johnson is not expected to undergo surgery, which would make his rehab far shorter than similar cases like Kevin Jones and Dwight Freeney.

This has been obvious for quite some time now.At least now people can stop sending me angry PM's for saying LJ has the dreaded Lis Franc injury the past few weeks.

 

[BigRed]

Lame.

look here, here or here. All on the 1st 2 pages. All filled with as much speculation as your post.

A whiner already - big shockYou want lame, take a look in the mirror and get Tito to pass you a tissue while you're at it.

PS and FYI your first link was to some pointless jabber about patient confideniality that tells us nothing, while the other 2 were not only not current but were exactly the more general discussion type threads I made a point of explaining I was trying to avoid. Looking for injury info only, even if not 100% confirmed....that's why I said "FWIW" - if it's not worth anything to you, move on.

Still going too fast for you?

 

[BigRed]

This has been obvious for quite some time now.At least now people can stop sending me angry PM's for saying LJ has the dreaded Lis Franc injury the past few weeks.

It's been speculated. This is the first I've seen it "reported" anywhere with any (seeming) certainty.Angry PM on the way for not telling me sooner so I could cut him.

 

[Da Guru]

I thought Liz Frank was LJs girlfriend?

 

[Keith Lewis]

Profootballtalk.com

Thanks for the update BigRed, this is worthy of a new post. At the same time not bashing the OP I'll state that I don't believe anything Profootballtalk.com says.

 

[lebowski]

when are the chiefs going to release a statement about it?

 

[Carr 2 Smith]

Lame.

look here, here or here. All on the 1st 2 pages. All filled with as much speculation as your post.

A whiner already - big shockYou want lame, take a look in the mirror and get Tito to pass you a tissue while you're at it.

PS and FYI your first link was to some pointless jabber about patient confideniality that tells us nothing, while the other 2 were not only not current but were exactly the more general discussion type threads I made a point of explaining I was trying to avoid. Looking for injury info only, even if not 100% confirmed....that's why I said "FWIW" - if it's not worth anything to you, move on.

Still going too fast for you?

Is this thread somehow supposed to be different from the others? It's just more speculation.

PS: Nice attempt at humor.

 

[ThePhillyKid]

What's the typical recovery time for a Lisfranc fracture?

 

[Micon]

And spare us the "not another LJ thread' whine. You can't search on "LJ" and I didn't see anything other than a more general thread or 2 abuot LJ and KC. Think it's worth a thread only to post/discuss his status.

That said, FYI/FWIW:

Profootballtalk.com reports that Larry Johnson has a Lisfranc injury that will be treated by rest and rehab.

Impact: And on it goes. This supports our report Monday that the Chiefs and Johnson expect the runner to miss the rest of the season. Now with Priest Holmes' status uncertain, the Chiefs are hurting for runners. It's important to note that Johnson is not expected to undergo surgery, which would make his rehab far shorter than similar cases like Kevin Jones and Dwight Freeney.

This has been obvious for quite some time now.At least now people can stop sending me angry PM's for saying LJ has the dreaded Lis Franc injury the past few weeks.

I agree that this was obvious a few weeks ago. Im just glad most people on this board were in denial, I got good value trading him in all the leagues I had him over a week ago. Now 2 weeks after his injury people are just realizing that it is his Lis franc and he has no value in redrafts and his dynasty value took a substantial hit as well. Moderated, thanks for the heads up a few weeks ago

 

[Del Griffith]

And spare us the "not another LJ thread' whine. You can't search on "LJ" and I didn't see anything other than a more general thread or 2 abuot LJ and KC. Think it's worth a thread only to post/discuss his status.

Can you search "Larry Johnson"?

 

[Sabertooth]

And spare us the "not another LJ thread' whine. You can't search on "LJ" and I didn't see anything other than a more general thread or 2 abuot LJ and KC. Think it's worth a thread only to post/discuss his status.

Can you search "Larry Johnson"?

If I ever make an alias, it is going to almost certainly be Neil Page.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Profootballtalk.com

Thanks for the update BigRed, this is worthy of a new post. At the same time not bashing the OP I'll state that I don't believe anything Profootballtalk.com says.

Through all of the LJ threads, there has not been anything confirmed. PFT certainly isn't reputable enough for me to take their word. Whatever has been said about LJ's injury is just speculation at this point. I don't know how bad it is. My gut feeling says he is done for the season, but that is just more speculation. The fact that LJ hasn't been placed on IR tells me he does not have the serious Lis Franc fracture. Of course, this is speculation too. I know one thing...whenever the Chiefs/LJ do come out and give official word, the "I told you so" folks will be posting. But in reality, the only thing they can "I told you so" about is how lucky they were to have guessed his injury, because they don't know for a fact what kind of injury he has right now. They are speculating and guessing, just like the rest of us. We can all give educated guesses, and maybe we are right. But for someone to say they know right now what injury he has is not true.

 

[bcr8f]

Profootballtalk.com

Thanks for the update BigRed, this is worthy of a new post. At the same time not bashing the OP I'll state that I don't believe anything Profootballtalk.com says.

Through all of the LJ threads, there has not been anything confirmed. PFT certainly isn't reputable enough for me to take their word. Whatever has been said about LJ's injury is just speculation at this point. I don't know how bad it is. My gut feeling says he is done for the season, but that is just more speculation. The fact that LJ hasn't been placed on IR tells me he does not have the serious Lis Franc fracture. Of course, this is speculation too. I know one thing...whenever the Chiefs/LJ do come out and give official word, the "I told you so" folks will be posting. But in reality, the only thing they can "I told you so" about is how lucky they were to have guessed his injury, because they don't know for a fact what kind of injury he has right now. They are speculating and guessing, just like the rest of us. We can all give educated guesses, and maybe we are right. But for someone to say they know right now what injury he has is not true.

KC homers have said nothing is being said there. Everything else is LJ's gardener over heard what thought was Lis Franc.

 

[cartel]

Profootballtalk.com

Thanks for the update BigRed, this is worthy of a new post. At the same time not bashing the OP I'll state that I don't believe anything Profootballtalk.com says.

Through all of the LJ threads, there has not been anything confirmed. PFT certainly isn't reputable enough for me to take their word. Whatever has been said about LJ's injury is just speculation at this point. I don't know how bad it is. My gut feeling says he is done for the season, but that is just more speculation.

The fact that LJ hasn't been placed on IR tells me he does not have the serious Lis Franc fracture. Of course, this is speculation too.

I know one thing...whenever the Chiefs/LJ do come out and give official word, the "I told you so" folks will be posting. But in reality, the only thing they can "I told you so" about is how lucky they were to have guessed his injury, because they don't know for a fact what kind of injury he has right now. They are speculating and guessing, just like the rest of us.

We can all give educated guesses, and maybe we are right. But for someone to say they know right now what injury he has is not true.

Agreed. Several threads have been filled up with unhelpful speculation. I expect more I told you so's whenever the final injury is determined.ETA-I have yet to see anyone with any sports medicine background give their two cents on any of these threads. As a physician I can tell you, it is impossible make much of diagnosis without examining the patient, looking at the studies and taking a history. It is always amazing to me that people without a medical background are able to offer a diagnosis without any of the above informatiion.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

i think it damn near takes like a year or more to comeback to full strength from this injury if this magnitude-some players don't make it back. i think the recent players to comeback from it are kevin jones,westbrook,gonzo, and i think strahan for high profile players

 

[maxwell1295]

From ESPN:

"ProFootballTalk.com reports that Johnson traveled to Charlotte, North Carolina to meet with Dr. Robert Anderson, the same physician who performed Kevin Jones' surgery, for an evaluation of his foot. The report states that Johnson has a Lisfranc injury and that the main question was whether Johnson would require surgery to repair the condition. The Chiefs have not issued any formal statement as to the exact nature of Johnson's condition, other than that he is dealing with a midfoot sprain. Last Thursday, the Kansas City Star reported that Johnson said he expected to return this season. Johnson described all of the rehabilitation he has been doing, and without disclosing any specifics about the injury itself, remarked that the swelling had been severe initially but pointed out that he was now walking without a boot. On Monday the Kansas City Star quoted Chiefs president Carl Peterson as saying "If a patient doesn't want medical information out there, then (the doctor) is obligated, as we are, under the rules of HIPAA, of not going into detail." This statement clearly suggests that it is Johnson himself who is requesting that the organization keep the details surrounding his injury confidential, as he has the right to do. Peterson went on to say that the Chiefs would only report what was required by the NFL and that they would continue to evaluate Johnson on a week-to-week basis."

 

[Anthony Borbely]

From ESPN:

"ProFootballTalk.com reports that Johnson traveled to Charlotte, North Carolina to meet with Dr. Robert Anderson, the same physician who performed Kevin Jones' surgery, for an evaluation of his foot. The report states that Johnson has a Lisfranc injury and that the main question was whether Johnson would require surgery to repair the condition. The Chiefs have not issued any formal statement as to the exact nature of Johnson's condition, other than that he is dealing with a midfoot sprain. Last Thursday, the Kansas City Star reported that Johnson said he expected to return this season. Johnson described all of the rehabilitation he has been doing, and without disclosing any specifics about the injury itself, remarked that the swelling had been severe initially but pointed out that he was now walking without a boot. On Monday the Kansas City Star quoted Chiefs president Carl Peterson as saying "If a patient doesn't want medical information out there, then (the doctor) is obligated, as we are, under the rules of HIPAA, of not going into detail." This statement clearly suggests that it is Johnson himself who is requesting that the organization keep the details surrounding his injury confidential, as he has the right to do. Peterson went on to say that the Chiefs would only report what was required by the NFL and that they would continue to evaluate Johnson on a week-to-week basis."

While Peterson can't legally say exactly what his injury is, there is nothing that says he can't put Johnson on IR. If he had an injury that they knew for sure was season ending, one would think he would have been put on IR already so they could use the roster spot. I'm no doctor, so this is just (my favorite word): speculation, but I would guess that if he had the serious Lis Franc fracture that KJ did, that he would not be walking without a boot, cane or limp.

That being said, I don't expect him to play this season, but as an LJ owner, I'm holding until I know for sure. Regardless of all of these articles, nobody knows for sure how bad his foot is. My reservation, and reason for not cutting LJ is that the Chiefs did not put him on IR, which tells me there is a chance he can play.

 

[Warpig]

Here's yet another speculative report directly from the KC Star here in Kansas City.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/370524.html

It's 2 pages long but it has some good info on the LJ situation. Still too many question marks.

 

[PatrickT]

I thought Liz Frank was LJs girlfriend?

No, Liz Frank was the girl who had to hide in the attic from the Nazi's.

 

[moderated]

I know one thing...whenever the Chiefs/LJ do come out and give official word, the "I told you so" folks will be posting. But in reality, the only thing they can "I told you so" about is how lucky they were to have guessed his injury, because they don't know for a fact what kind of injury he has right now. They are speculating and guessing, just like the rest of us.

It's called an educated guess, just like almost everything that we do in FF. Projections/rankings/etc are all guesses until they become facts, and at that point 100% of people know about it so you can't gain any advantage from it.Everything that came out pointed to a Lis Franc injury, those who couldn't put 2+2 together just kept denying it and not using that information to their advantage. LJ should have been dumped for anything a couple weeks ago while he still had value. He's toast now as far as re-drafts are concerned.I wasn't 100% sure, but i'd say about 95% sure it was a Lis Franc, and i took advantage of that educated guess and got very good value for him in a league. Some may call it luck, i call it a good educated guess.

 

[TeddyKGB]

You guys are slipping. It's not just the Lisfranc injury, it's the dreaded Lisfranc injury. Board medical experts and sharks, please refer to it as such.

TIA