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Loaning a chick money 9/9/16 - Bye (2 Viewers)

Any lawyers or anyone with knowledge of Arizona's divorce laws care to weigh in with any insight as to what could happen in the event

they get a divorce (marital assets, custody,

alimony, etc.)?
I do divorce law in Arizona. That said I have a feeling it isn't going to help here.

ETA: Ron I do appreciate the sentiment that you'd make sure the lawyers get rich :thumbup:

 
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I guess I'd be remiss if I didn't mention this:

Ron, if you're going to go through a divorce, there are some things I'd leave out of these updates.

 
Any lawyers or anyone with knowledge of Arizona's divorce laws care to weigh in with any insight as to what could happen in the event

they get a divorce (marital assets, custody,

alimony, etc.)?
I do divorce law in Arizona.
I could think of no greater ending to this thread than Ron hiring Woz to be his divorce attorney.

Just think of the scene of them meeting in a hotel room to discuss strategy, with cocaine brat (i.e. Girl #3). Ron tells Woz he's too wound up to be any good to him, winks to Girl #3 and leaves the room.

Awkward silence commences.

"So," says Woz as Girl #3 snorts a line for motivation, "How are you?"

 
I guess I'd be remiss if I didn't mention this:

Ron, if you're going to go through a divorce, there are some things I'd leave out of these updates.
maybe this needs to go into the lawyer thread, but cant he claim that Arizona Ron is a persona and he has "made up" the story here

 
Up to date

After our very serious and emotional sit-down, Wife and I seem to be back on the same page. Wife and I have even become sexually active with each other again on occasion (just the two of use). She still hangs out with Girl 1 (not the crazy one that posted all the photos, sorry for confusing the two) some times but not at the house and I never hang with the two of them when they go out. In fact, I haven't seen Girl 1 in months. Girl 3 (The Ice Princess) has been completely out of the picture; she still texts me every now and then but I just ignore it. I've hung out with Druggie a few times over the last weeks but nothing crazy, just drinks after work or the occasional stop over her place to stretch out. Angie and I hook up every now and then when the house is empty; I really like Angie :wub: .

The only real hiccup we've had since I've moved back in is my wife told the cleaning company to stop coming to the house. In her mind, she figured that Angie would pick up that function too. I didn't know about it until I started noticing hair in the corners of the bathrooms and just an overall not as clean as the house has been. I mentioned to my wife that we need to point this out to the cleaning company and that's when she said they haven't been coming for almost two months now.

She feels like Angie should do that too since she lives with us for free, uses a credit card on my account and drives a car I bought. I reminded her of the days she was a stay-at-home mom even when my daughter started preschool. Laundry, running Daughter to different activities and just the other duties that come with managing a house can be a lot. I told her this isn't something I want to debate and rescheduled the cleaners to start coming again (turns out I was paying for them the whole time anyway because they were still under contract).

The four of us (Wife, Daughter, Angie and I) spent a weekend at Sesame Place which seemed like real family bonding moment. The conversation Wife and I had weeks ago was the first and last time we seriously talked about separating and both of us agreed we would rather put up with each others' #### than live separately.

I'm not sure if this is the "answer" but it's working.

 
I am glad to see that you are stabilizing the household. Have there been any serious discussions with your daughter, or are you just assuming that she has taken all this in stride?

 
I am glad to see that you are stabilizing the household. Have there been any serious discussions with your daughter, or are you just assuming that she has taken all this in stride?
No we've had several 1-on-1s. Mainly with me listening to her. For instance, I asked how she describes Angie to her friends/teachers and what she likes or doesn't like about home. It's amazing she understands so much at her age. From what I can tell, she gets more than enough attention from all of us.

 
Details on sesame place please. I'm willing to bet I saw you there as we have abusing that place.
I'm not sure what you're looking for but my daughter enjoyed it. It was mostly a blur of screaming kids and a 100 pictures of my daughter smiling from ear to ear. The water park area was pretty unique.

 
Do you pay Angie or is the free rent, car, food and occasional bang in lieu of money?
I don't pay her but on top of free rent and a car, she has a credit card tied to my account for any clothes/girl stuff/whatever she needs to buy. I've never had to question a purchase since she's had the card.

 
Nice updates, DrJ approved. You got some hand, and the weaker entities got back in line. Things may not get back to being perfect, #### is never perfect, but this gives a way better base to launch from. Sorry if I ruined your thread.

 
Up to date

After our very serious and emotional sit-down, Wife and I seem to be back on the same page. Wife and I have even become sexually active with each other again on occasion (just the two of use). She still hangs out with Girl 1 (not the crazy one that posted all the photos, sorry for confusing the two) some times but not at the house and I never hang with the two of them when they go out. In fact, I haven't seen Girl 1 in months. Girl 3 (The Ice Princess) has been completely out of the picture; she still texts me every now and then but I just ignore it. I've hung out with Druggie a few times over the last weeks but nothing crazy, just drinks after work or the occasional stop over her place to stretch out. Angie and I hook up every now and then when the house is empty; I really like Angie :wub: .

The only real hiccup we've had since I've moved back in is my wife told the cleaning company to stop coming to the house. In her mind, she figured that Angie would pick up that function too. I didn't know about it until I started noticing hair in the corners of the bathrooms and just an overall not as clean as the house has been. I mentioned to my wife that we need to point this out to the cleaning company and that's when she said they haven't been coming for almost two months now.

She feels like Angie should do that too since she lives with us for free, uses a credit card on my account and drives a car I bought. I reminded her of the days she was a stay-at-home mom even when my daughter started preschool. Laundry, running Daughter to different activities and just the other duties that come with managing a house can be a lot. I told her this isn't something I want to debate and rescheduled the cleaners to start coming again (turns out I was paying for them the whole time anyway because they were still under contract).

The four of us (Wife, Daughter, Angie and I) spent a weekend at Sesame Place which seemed like real family bonding moment. The conversation Wife and I had weeks ago was the first and last time we seriously talked about separating and both of us agreed we would rather put up with each others' #### than live separately.

I'm not sure if this is the "answer" but it's working.
So you both bang each other and other people, how are things different? You don't have threesomes anymore and don't flaunt side pieces in public?

 
Up to date

After our very serious and emotional sit-down, Wife and I seem to be back on the same page. Wife and I have even become sexually active with each other again on occasion (just the two of use). She still hangs out with Girl 1 (not the crazy one that posted all the photos, sorry for confusing the two) some times but not at the house and I never hang with the two of them when they go out. In fact, I haven't seen Girl 1 in months. Girl 3 (The Ice Princess) has been completely out of the picture; she still texts me every now and then but I just ignore it. I've hung out with Druggie a few times over the last weeks but nothing crazy, just drinks after work or the occasional stop over her place to stretch out. Angie and I hook up every now and then when the house is empty; I really like Angie :wub: .

The only real hiccup we've had since I've moved back in is my wife told the cleaning company to stop coming to the house. In her mind, she figured that Angie would pick up that function too. I didn't know about it until I started noticing hair in the corners of the bathrooms and just an overall not as clean as the house has been. I mentioned to my wife that we need to point this out to the cleaning company and that's when she said they haven't been coming for almost two months now.

She feels like Angie should do that too since she lives with us for free, uses a credit card on my account and drives a car I bought. I reminded her of the days she was a stay-at-home mom even when my daughter started preschool. Laundry, running Daughter to different activities and just the other duties that come with managing a house can be a lot. I told her this isn't something I want to debate and rescheduled the cleaners to start coming again (turns out I was paying for them the whole time anyway because they were still under contract).

The four of us (Wife, Daughter, Angie and I) spent a weekend at Sesame Place which seemed like real family bonding moment. The conversation Wife and I had weeks ago was the first and last time we seriously talked about separating and both of us agreed we would rather put up with each others' #### than live separately.

I'm not sure if this is the "answer" but it's working.
So you both bang each other and other people, how are things different? You don't have threesomes anymore and don't flaunt side pieces in public?
oh, was stretching out a euphemism

 
Have you and the wife talked at all about the rules involved in getting strange or are you just operating with the understanding that as long as it is not flaunted in the home or on social media you are good to go? Does she know about druggie skank?

 
Have you and the wife talked at all about the rules involved in getting strange or are you just operating with the understanding that as long as it is not flaunted in the home or on social media you are good to go? Does she know about druggie skank?
The latter. No.

 
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Sounds like the wife figured out she won't find another meal ticket who makes that much money and who will let her sleep with girls whenever she wants. She's nothing if not pragmatic. :lol:

 
Sounds like the wife figured out she won't find another meal ticket who makes that much money and who will let her sleep with girls whenever she wants. She's nothing if not pragmatic. :lol:
Yeah, but most wives don't let you tap strange ### on the side either. Marriage is a negotiation like most things in life.

But....hate to say it but I still don't get it. If it's actually working, with no feelings of uncertainty or jealousy, great. But I can't suspend disbelief enough to see how that is possible.

 
I am glad to see that you are stabilizing the household. Have there been any serious discussions with your daughter, or are you just assuming that she has taken all this in stride?
No we've had several 1-on-1s. Mainly with me listening to her. For instance, I asked how she describes Angie to her friends/teachers and what she likes or doesn't like about home. It's amazing she understands so much at her age. From what I can tell, she gets more than enough attention from all of us.
:thumbup:

 
Sounds like the wife figured out she won't find another meal ticket who makes that much money and who will let her sleep with girls whenever she wants. She's nothing if not pragmatic. :lol:
Yeah, but most wives don't let you tap strange ### on the side either. Marriage is a negotiation like most things in life.

But....hate to say it but I still don't get it. If it's actually working, with no feelings of uncertainty or jealousy, great. But I can't suspend disbelief enough to see how that is possible.
I actually can... If the wife is only nailing chicks and no dudes, & I occasionally get in on it, plus I get to rail other girls... I can see how some could make that work without jealousy. I probably couldn't but maybe it becomes second nature. If someone else is sliding the wife the pipe, then all bets are off.

 
Does your wife know you still mess around with Angie? Does she? Has she been getting any strange?
If I recall, I don't think Angie ever really "liked" the ladies. Was part of some group stuff but was hesitant.
I think you are referring to the orgy in the basement?
Ah, the good old days when thee wife forced Angie to gag on Ron. From there to Sesame Place. There are going to be a lot of disappointed readers when the book comes out.

 
Hmmm, not sure how I feel about ending up as Sesame Place.
I could see it working if the cinematography is good. There are a lot of colors and solid family shots that can be had there. The surrounding area sucks, but a good filmaker can make it work. I'm thinking a solid tracking shot leaving the laughing happy family and soaring up past Elmo and Big Bird.... perhaps a post credit shot of Oscar hitting on the wife and her giving him Angie. There are things that can be done.

 
Hmmm, not sure how I feel about ending up as Sesame Place.
I could see it working if the cinematography is good. There are a lot of colors and solid family shots that can be had there. The surrounding area sucks, but a good filmaker can make it work. I'm thinking a solid tracking shot leaving the laughing happy family and soaring up past Elmo and Big Bird.... perhaps a post credit shot of Oscar hitting on the wife and her giving him Angie. There are things that can be done.
I was going to quote your previous reply. When you said you probably saw Ron and that you were abusing the place, I sort of read it incorrectly the first time. Then I remembered your overview of your weekend with your wife and read it again. :)

 
What could possibly go wrong with you continuing to bareback the druggie skank behind your wife's back?

I think you are setting yourself up for another train wreck. Rick James (poster above) is right. Got to set the ground rules.

 

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