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This was an episode in The Newsroom, wasn't it?
Well, that explains the rapping.
The suspension seems odd. Either you think that the audience will no longer trust him in which case you fire him, or you don't think his the audience's view of his trustworthiness in presenting the news is compromised in which case you do nothing. Giving such a long suspension just reinforces the idea that Williams is guilty of chronic lying, and the audience will remember that and consider it upon his return.He's getting suspended for 6 months without pay. Going to be weird when he comes back.
Now they are picking apart his Katrina coverage. I think hes going down.
Yeah. I'm going with the "he's not coming back" thinking. Will host a news talk show or something down the road.The suspension seems odd. Either you think that the audience will no longer trust him in which case you fire him, or you don't think his the audience's view of his trustworthiness in presenting the news is compromised in which case you do nothing. Giving such a long suspension just reinforces the idea that Williams is guilty of chronic lying, and the audience will remember that and consider it upon his return.He's getting suspended for 6 months without pay. Going to be weird when he comes back.
katiecouricvilleYeah. I'm going with the "he's not coming back" thinking. Will host a news talk show or something down the road.
“I remember one such house fire . . . conducting a search on my hands and knees, when I felt something warm, squishy and furry on the floor of a closet,” Williams said. “I instinctively tucked it in my coat. When I got outside, I saw two small eyes staring up at me, and I returned the 3-week-old and very scared puppy to its grateful owners,” he said.
But in July 2005, he told a different story, insisting he had saved not one but two pups from certain death.
“All I ever did as a volunteer fireman was once save two puppies,” he said, according to Esquire magazine.
RED BANK – A long-time borough restaurateur doesn't believe embattled NBC anchorman Brian Williams's claim that he was robbed at gunpoint in Red Bank sometime in the late '70s while selling Christmas trees from the back of a truck.
"To be robbed in front of a church? Red Bank just wasn't like that," said Daniel Murphy Jr., 71, who owns Danny's Steakhouse and has lived in the borough since his family moved there in 1949. "It was the kind of town where as a kid I'd leave the house in the morning and not come back until 8, 9 o'clock at night and you never worried about safety."
Murphy was responding to interviews given by Williams in which he described being held up at gunpoint as a teenager while selling Christmas trees to help a church. In a 2008 interview with New Jersey Monthly magazine, Williams described the incident:
"I even sold Christmas trees out of the back of a truck in Red Bank. That wasn't a bad job, until a guy came up and stuck a .38-caliber pistol in my face and made me hand over all the money. Merry Christmas, right? Of course, I suddenly appreciated the other jobs I thought I hated." He told a similar story in a 2005 interview with Esquire, relating how he found himself "looking up at a thug's snub-nosed .38 while selling Christmas trees out of the back of a truck."
Murphy said he found it strange that Williams would remember the specific caliber of the pistol that the anchorman says was used to rob him. Williams claims the incident happened at West Front Street and Riverside Avenue in the borough.
Hot topic: Was Brian Williams lying?
"Today I shoot, but when I was a teenager, if someone had pointed a gun at me, I wouldn't have known what kind of gun it was," Murphy said. "Those were police-issued at the time. How would you know what caliber it was?"
Murphy said such a crime would have been huge news in then-sleepy Red Bank.
Brian Williams' credibility questioned
"To be robbed in front of a church like that, it would have been in the Register," Murphy said, referring to the Red Bank Register newspaper, which went out of business in the late 1980s. Red Bank Police Chief Darren McConnell said in an email yesterday that it would be very difficult to try to find any record of an armed robbery in Red Bank from the 1970s without knowing the month and year that the crime allegedly took place.
The police department's records from those years are on microfilm.
Williams, who grew up in Middletown and graduated in 1977 from Mater Dei Prep in the township, took himself off the nightly newscast on Feb. 7 amid a furor over his falsely claiming that a helicopter in which he was a passenger was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade during the Iraq war in 2003.
Last week, Williams apologized on the air for repeatedly telling the story. In online comments, he said that constant viewing of video showing him inspecting the damaged helicopter "and the fog of memory over 12 years, made me conflate the two, and I apologize."
Brian Williams on Mater Dei
Since Williams' false claims about the helicopter came to light, the anchorman's previous statements have been closely scrutinized for discrepancies. His claims about seeing a dead body floating past the Ritz-Carlton on the edge of the French Quarter during Hurricane Katrina struck have been questioned by some because flooding in the area was not as severe as in other parts of the city.
And did the anchorman actually save a puppy -- or possibly two puppies -- while he was a volunteer firefighter for Middletown's Old Village Fire Co.?
"All I ever did as a volunteer fireman was once save two puppies," Williams remembered in the 2005 Esquire interview. He told a slightly different tale to USA Today in 2011.
"I remember one such house fire — the structure was fully involved with flames and smoke. I was wearing a breathing apparatus, conducting a search on my hands and knees, when I felt something warm, squishy and furry on the floor of a closet," Williams said. "I instinctively tucked it in my coat. When I got outside, I saw two small eyes staring up at me, and I returned the 3-week-old (and very scared) puppy to its grateful owners."
No one at the Old Village Fire Co. was available to discuss Williams' time with the fire company. Former Fire Chief Bruce George, who was Williams' captain at the firehouse, still lives in the township.
But a woman who answered the phone at George's home, who said she was his wife, said her husband would not comment on Williams' time with the fire company because it might upset him. "We all love him and we all support him," she said of Williams.
Jean Mikle: (732) 643-4050, jmikle@app.com
Staff Writer Andrew Ford and the Associated Press contributed to this story.
Has Gwyneth Paltrow been to Iraq?Couldn't have happened to a more pretentious person.![]()
A track for each day's news.Williams has released a statement stating that he plans on using the next few months to work on his slow jam album.
Yeah, but that politician is on their team!Laughable. Trust?? We continue to re-elect politicians that have lied over and over and over. This is absolutely ridiculous.
Three week old puppies are usually with their mother and litter mates. Surprised there was no mention of the maternal reunion. No matter. Brian Williams probably milked his own breasts to nourish the un-weaned welp.All kinds of stories of his are coming out that sound funny now that you look at it. Not sure if these have already been posted.
The evolution of his puppy-saving story as a volunteer firefighter
“I remember one such house fire . . . conducting a search on my hands and knees, when I felt something warm, squishy and furry on the floor of a closet,” Williams said. “I instinctively tucked it in my coat. When I got outside, I saw two small eyes staring up at me, and I returned the 3-week-old and very scared puppy to its grateful owners,” he said.
But in July 2005, he told a different story, insisting he had saved not one but two pups from certain death.
“All I ever did as a volunteer fireman was once save two puppies,” he said, according to Esquire magazine.
Won't come back IMO.
This might be why this is so bad.Anyone remember when NBC Dateline ran the story about GM trucks exploding bc of the gas tank being outside of the frame? Then GM got a tip that the investigation was rigged, found the trucks, and exposed NBC for lying. They discovered that NBC used flammable rockets to explode, and nothing was wrong with the design of the truck.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vEkc_DlvN9Y
Dateline issued a 3 and half minute on-air apology the next day (although I can't find that video)
If that happened today, would NBC survive it?
Nope I'm with you, and I think we can all agree that I would be part of the demographic that has no use for network news. Still though, this is just moronic.Am I the only one who thinks this whole thing got a little blown out of proportion?
I can maybe see how you could make the case that he should be allowed to stay if it was just the one story but with the questionable past stories coming to light, this appears to be a pattern. At this point it might be more difficult to find a story by Williams that doesn't wreak of bull####.Nope I'm with you, and I think we can all agree that I would be part of the demographic that has no use for network news. Still though, this is just moronic.Am I the only one who thinks this whole thing got a little blown out of proportion?
Just checking in to remind everyone that it's his job to lie. He's a "news" reader for the state.I can maybe see how you could make the case that he should be allowed to stay if it was just the one story but with the questionable past stories coming to light, this appears to be a pattern. At this point it might be more difficult to find a story by Williams that doesn't wreak of bull####.Nope I'm with you, and I think we can all agree that I would be part of the demographic that has no use for network news. Still though, this is just moronic.Am I the only one who thinks this whole thing got a little blown out of proportion?
Yeah. I'm going with the "he's not coming back" thinking. Will host a news talk show or something down the road.
Brian Williams Reportedly Lobbied to Host The Tonight Show
February 10th, 2015
According to two separate reports today, Brian Williams lobbied to get the Tonight Show gig after Jay Leno was set to leave. Yes, Williams, a regular late night guest, who has joined the current Tonight Show host in multiple slow jam sessions, apparently considered jumping into the late night fray.
New York Magazine‘s Gabriel Sherman reported earlier today that NBC insiders said Williams “wants to be a late-night comedian” and was lobbying to replace Leno.
Another report, from New York Times‘ Emily Steel, contained the same revelation. The link currently redirects to a story about Williams’ suspension from NBC News (which yes, is happening), but based on these tweets, it contained the same revelations:
The Jon Stewart news comes just as @emilysteel uncovered that Brian Williams sought to replace Leno, at one stage: http://t.co/tEr6rXUM1f
— Ravi Somaiya (@ravisomaiya) February 11, 2015
You may joke about Brian Williams taking over the Daily Show, but @emilysteel reveals he wanted to succeed Jay Leno! http://t.co/KaC3Pisr7a
— Tim Gatt (@TimGatt) February 11, 2015
Meanwhile…Brian Williams told NBC execs 5 years ago he wanted to replace Jay Leno. They told him he was crazy. http://t.co/Bhs4I1670U
— Ben Bergman (@thebenbergman) February 11, 2015
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he'd rather do what?
I think he would do better as a character actor. With LLoyd Bridges and Leslie Neilson out of the game there is a void to be filled.So Brian Williams is taking over for Jon Stewart?![]()
The One-Trick Pony just performed its one trick...again.Just checking in to remind everyone that it's his job to lie. He's a "news" reader for the state.I can maybe see how you could make the case that he should be allowed to stay if it was just the one story but with the questionable past stories coming to light, this appears to be a pattern. At this point it might be more difficult to find a story by Williams that doesn't wreak of bull####.Nope I'm with you, and I think we can all agree that I would be part of the demographic that has no use for network news. Still though, this is just moronic.Am I the only one who thinks this whole thing got a little blown out of proportion?
It's no more surprising than when a heroin addict loads up a fresh needle on a Wednesday night.
No. Jon Stewart is taking over for Williams.So Brian Williams is taking over for Jon Stewart?![]()
If you don't agree, why not counter the point instead of resorting to name calling?The One-Trick Pony just performed its one trick...again.Just checking in to remind everyone that it's his job to lie. He's a "news" reader for the state.I can maybe see how you could make the case that he should be allowed to stay if it was just the one story but with the questionable past stories coming to light, this appears to be a pattern. At this point it might be more difficult to find a story by Williams that doesn't wreak of bull####.Nope I'm with you, and I think we can all agree that I would be part of the demographic that has no use for network news. Still though, this is just moronic.Am I the only one who thinks this whole thing got a little blown out of proportion?
It's no more surprising than when a heroin addict loads up a fresh needle on a Wednesday night.
You know Comedy Central would love for that to happen.So Brian Williams is taking over for Jon Stewart?![]()
I didn't say I agreed or disagreed. It's your Ron Hoek-esque one note song of extreme libertarianism gets old after a very short time period.Jack White said:If you don't agree, why not counter the point instead of resorting to name calling?Tom Servo said:The One-Trick Pony just performed its one trick...again.Jack White said:Just checking in to remind everyone that it's his job to lie. He's a "news" reader for the state.Hang 10 said:I can maybe see how you could make the case that he should be allowed to stay if it was just the one story but with the questionable past stories coming to light, this appears to be a pattern. At this point it might be more difficult to find a story by Williams that doesn't wreak of bull####.Yankee23Fan said:Nope I'm with you, and I think we can all agree that I would be part of the demographic that has no use for network news. Still though, this is just moronic.eoMMan said:Am I the only one who thinks this whole thing got a little blown out of proportion?
It's no more surprising than when a heroin addict loads up a fresh needle on a Wednesday night.
I offer my honest take on whatever the topic is, whether it's fantasy football, hot babes, ketchup, ISIS or lying news readers.
Yes, I critize the state and defend freedom, but I rarely if ever insult others who post here.
I'm not interested in sparring with you or anyone else in a battle of petty name calling. I'm only interested in stating my opinions on topics that interest me.
What else has NBC News dug up on Brian Williams? Brian Williams' future at NBC News may hinge on just how many other examples of exaggerations and fibs are found.The network's internal fact-checking investigation is "nowhere near done," a senior NBC source said Thursday.
It has widened beyond just Williams' initial errors about a 2003 Iraq War mission to include other possible misstatements, but the network has not commented on any particular ones.
When he apologized last week for his on-air error about the Iraq mission, he chalked it up to innocent "misremembering." But others have implied something more malicious.
On Thursday The Huffington Post identified questions about Williams' claims of flying into Baghdad with SEAL Team 6 and about "war memorabilia the anchor claims to have received as gifts, including a Navy SEAL's knife and a piece of the helicopter from the raid that killed Osama bin Laden."
CNN analyst Peter Bergen said on "Anderson Cooper 360" that he was told by sources in the Seal community that it would be impossible for Williams to have ever traveled with Seal Team 6.
"We do not embed journalists with any elements of that unit ... bottom line -- no," one Special Operations Command official said.
In the case of the memorabilia that Williams says he received from "his friends" in the Seal community: "that doesn't pass any sniff test," another Seal officer told Bergen.
A spokeswoman for NBC News declined to comment.
Williams' exaggerations about Iraq and subsequent questions about his accounts of Hurricane Katrina have triggered a full-blown crisis of confidence inside NBC News. (The scrutiny about Katrina is particularly significant.) Williams was suspended on Tuesday for six months without pay, and may never return to his "NBC Nightly News" anchor chair.
The suspension had an ominous feel to it -- a sense, expressed by many media analysts, that there are more examples out there of the anchor embellishing the truth.
"We have concerns about comments that occurred outside NBC News while Brian was talking about his experiences in the field," NBC News president Deborah Turness said in announcing the suspension.
Media accounts have concentrated more on Williams' misstatements than the apparent lack of executive oversight. (His appearances on late-night shows, for example, were set up by public relations people and supported by NBC management.)
Meanwhile, Williams -- who is bound by the terms of his contract -- isn't allowed to speak without the network's approval, and the network isn't giving him that approval right now.
As NBC's fact-checking continues, two accounts from Williams' younger days could also invite scrutiny.
As a reporter for WCBS-TV in New York in 1989, Williams traveled to Berlin to cover the demolition of the Berlin Wall. The assignment has become an omnipresent line in his various biographies, and Williams himself has identified it as a career highlight.
"I've been so fortunate," he said during a 2008 forum at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library. "I was at the Brandenburg Gate the night the wall came down."
Williams did indeed witness some of the wall's physical removal. But "the night the wall came down" is widely recognized as November 9, 1989, an iconic date with particular significance to Williams' "Nightly News" predecessor Tom Brokaw.
Brokaw was famously the only American anchorman to report live from the scene on that historic day, an accomplishment that NBC News has proudly trumpeted for years. It was a defining moment for Brokaw.
And Williams has, to be sure, consistently credited Brokaw and NBC for having a jump on the story. In a 2004 interview, Williams said he "arrived at the Berlin Wall a day after -- more like 12 hours after -- Tom Brokaw did."
"But I got there, and I have my own piece of the wall, my own piece of that memory that I'll always hold tight to," he added.
Other times, Williams has arguably conflated his experience with that of Brokaw's.
"Here's a fact: 25 years ago tonight, Tom Brokaw and I were at the Berlin Wall," Williams said at a gala held on November 8, 2014.
At the same event, where Brokaw was honored by the Multiple Myeloma Research Foundation, Williams cracked that he was "very pissed off 'cause Tom had arrived [in Berlin] first" while "everyone else in journalism" was racing to catch a flight from New York to Berlin.
"So by the second night of the story, we were all there," Williams added.
An NBC News source in a position to know confirmed to CNNMoney that "Brian arrived the day after the wall came down."
In public settings, Williams has also discussed another brush with history that occurred a decade before the fall of the Berlin Wall. As a student at Catholic University, Williams was at the school when Pope John Paul II spoke at the Washington, D.C. campus in 1979. The anchor's account of the papal visit has varied over the years.
In 2002, Williams was quoted as saying that he chipped in with the school's preparations as an employee in the campus public relations office.
"I was there during the visit of the pope," Williams said.
If he had any interaction with the pope, Williams didn't mention it then. But that changed in 2004, a year before the death of Pope John Paul II. While delivering the commencement address at Catholic University that year, Williams said the "highlight" of his time at the school "was in this very doorway, shaking hands with the Holy Father during his visit to this campus."
After reporting the news of the pope's death in 2005, Williams said on-air that he was "thinking back to the first time I met him at Catholic University, I guess it's 25 years ago now."
Days later, Williams provided a more colorful version of his meeting.
"I have to begin with a beautiful day in 1979," Williams said in an interview published by NBC News. "I was a student at Catholic University, and over the course of two hours, chatted up a Secret Service agent who spilled like a cup of coffee and told me that the pope would be coming our way, straight up the steps of a side door at the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception. I positioned myself and held out my hand and said, 'Welcome to Catholic University, Holy Father.' And he embraced my hand with both of his, made the sign of the cross, and said a blessing to me."
The same year, he told Esquire he met the pope simply by being in the right place at the right time -- not thanks to a chatty Secret Service agent.
The holes in these accounts may seem small. Up until a week ago, most people wouldn't have given them a second thought. That they're even getting brought up speaks to the depth of this calamity.
Representatives for NBC News repeatedly declined to comment on the stories.
The head of NBC's in-house investigation is Richard Esposito, the senior executive producer of the news division's investigative unit. The general counsel of NBC's parent company, NBCUniversal, is also involved.
Many media critics have raised eyebrows about NBC's decision to appoint one of its own investigative producers, rather than an outsider, to look into Williams' claims.
At one point early in the process, Esposito provided his bosses with the names of several other people who could conduct an external investigation, according to two people with knowledge of the discussions.
An NBC executive, speaking anonymously, said these names were meant to be recommendations in case the probe expanded and required additional resources.
On Thursday another NBC source said a third-party investigator may, in fact, become involved, but that no final decisions have been made.
Brian Stelter contributed reporting.
I read "Megyn Kelly" and "beaver" in the same sentence, and I was out.Brian Williams: Member Of Media Circle Jerk
By Ilana Mercer
Facts are a journalists stock-in-trade. He cannot be cavalier about the truth. Nevertheless, Brian Williams, the suspended iconic managing editor and anchor of NBC Nightly News, embellished liberally about events he covered in the course of a
limelight-seeking career.
As it transpires, Williams helicopter did not come under enemy fire in Iraq, in the early days of the war. Nor did his Ritz-Carlton hotel take on water during Hurricane Katrina, in 2005. The body he witnessed floating by that establishment would have had to be floating in a few inches of rain, the precipitation in the French Quarter. Neither did gangs overrun the Ritz-Carlton, nor dysentery inflict its guest, despite the story the intrepid Williams disgorged to the contrary.
The public has yet to receive a full accounting of Brian Williams journalistic transgressions, but the press is already riffing on the merits of Christian forgiveness. Who said Christianity isnt invoked, occasionally, in the service of the progressive project?
A USA Today journalist minimized the gravity of Williams fibs. Journalists have been known to occasionally exaggerate their exploits. Williams' seemingly genial personality and likability could work in his favor, he noodled. Another USA Today reporter, exposed by NewsBusters, attempted to coat Williams' self-serving fables with a scientific patina, by invoking Elizabeth Loftus research into the amalgam of influences that make-up "false memories." Democrat Clintonite Lanny Davis echoed the "false memories" meme.
Others in the trade proclaimed to be rooting for Williams. There is no glee in watching a titan of journalism falls. A good person who made a big mistake, vaporized Fox News Megyn Kelly. I come not to praise Brian Williams, nor to bury him, equivocated another. And it was boilerplate David Brooks to write as though with himself in mind (along the lines of, What if the Williams fate befalls me?). Prematurely, the New York Times neoconservative-cum-liberal columnist demanded forgiveness on behalf of Williams.
In mitigationtheres been a great deal of thatWilliams told tall tales not about the news, but about his imagined role in the dramas he covered. From the ethical perspective, Brian Williams reportage is not really tarnished by this petty self-aggrandizement; his character is.
Not for nothing have his colleagues, left and right, formed a protective barricade around Williams. With few exceptions, the media-complex within which Gilded Ones like Williams slither so effortlessly is mired in corruptionthe kind this scribe did not encounter in the structurally more conservative Canadian industry. It is anathema in Europe too, I am told.
Conflict of interest is at every turn. Major anchorsthe gifted and gorgeous Megyn Kelly too, sadly beaver at sculpting a celebrity persona. They hangout on late-night shows. They hobnob with the hosts to curry favor with them, The Daily Show on Comedy Central being their professional Shangri-La.
Over and over again do the celebrity journos, then, relive their moments of glory with their own fans, holding out hope for the next invitation. Lovinglyself-love being the operative worddo they track their media appearances from their respective network seats. The better-looking flaunt their assets over fashion spreads in high-gloss magazines.
Almost allyour favorite opinionators, tooattend the annual Sycophants Supper, where they cozy up to Kim Kardashian and Beyoncé Knowles. (Kudos to the few, such as former NBC News anchor Tom Brokaw, who've excoriated the anannual White House Correspondents Dinner, or who've refused to attend, irrespective of the political affiliation of the man ensconced in the White House.)
The annual White House Sycophants Dinner is where the most pretentious people in the countryin politics, journalism and entertainmentconvene to revel in their ability to petition and curry favor with one another, usually to the detriment of the rest of us in Romes provinces.
Those gathered at the White House Correspondents Dinner, or its Christmas party, are not the countrys natural aristocracy, but its authentic Idiocracy. The events and the invited say a great deal about the press, its ethics and code of conduct.
Like nothing else, the Sycophants Supper is a mark of a corrupt politics and press, as the un-watchful dogs of the media have no business frolicking with the president and his minions. This co-optation, however, is the hallmark of the celebrity press, in general. The days following these glitzy events, the Gilded Ones spend genuflecting to themselves.
What else? Celebrity journalists marry their sources and hop right back into their roles as reporters. Their colleagues in thiscircle jerk are none the wiser. Examples: CNN and ABCs Claire Shipman who wed Obama press secretary Jay Carney. Campbell Brown, formerly of CNN, is hitched to Romney adviser Dan Senor. Meet the Press Chuck Todd is married to and gives an occasional shout-out to Democratic strategist Kristian Denny Todd.
The presstitutes straddle the fleshpots of D.C. with the skill of a Department of Justice that bestrides the roles of defender in court of the Infernal Revenue Service, as well as the agency charged with investigating the tax collector. All of them ride us like the asses we are.
No better than the lobbyists and the politicians they petition, the presstitutes move seamlessly between their roles as activists, experts and anchors; publishers and authors; talkers and product peddlers; pinups and pontificators.
To wit, former White House press secretary Dana Perino is also editorial director of Crown Forum, the countrys foremost conservative print, where she supervises the further "Closing of the American Mind," to use Allan Blooms famous title.
Oblivious to a conflict of interest, Megyn Kelly promotes husband Douglas Brunts books from her perch at Fox News. In the same vein, CNNs Brooke Baldwin entertained Cousin Sgt. Charlie Mink as her self-styled expert on prisoner interrogation in Iraq. On the same network, Suzette Malveaux (law professor) is legal expert of choice to Suzanne Malveaux (anchor). The two are twin sisters.
The list and nature of the professional incest is long.
Vanity, not veracity; narcissism, not integrity: These are the tools of the trade among America's celebrity journalists.
Now please lead me to the Vomitorium. Contributor Ilana Mercer is a paleolibertarian writer, based in the U.S. She is a contributor to Junge Freiheit, a German weekly of excellence, and is a fellow at the Jerusalem Institute for Market Studies. Her latest book is Into the Cannibals Pot: Lessons For America From Post-Apartheid South Africa. Her website is www.IlanaMercer.com. Follow her on Twitter. Friendher on Facebook.