GrandpaRox
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Amazing how you can tell the race of a criminal by hearing what the crime was. At least 90%% of the time.
Also amazing how from the comments you can tell the bigots and racists here at least 90% of the time.GrandpaRox said:Amazing how you can tell the race of a criminal by hearing what the crime was. At least 90%% of the time.
Bit defensive aren't ya?Also amazing how from the comments you can tell the bigots and racists here at least 90% of the time.GrandpaRox said:Amazing how you can tell the race of a criminal by hearing what the crime was. At least 90%% of the time.
SheeshGhost Rider said:I don't want to quibble over what is and what isn't the worst area in the area, but while Ferguson has dressed it up a bit over the years (the big shopping center at W. Florissant and Lucas and Hunt, although that might be Jennings...cannot remember), crime is still not good there from what I have know, and their schooling system is off the charts bad. A co-worker with two young children actually moved out of that area last year (she lived just off Chambers, where a lot of that stuff last night happened) because, in her words, "she couldn't raise her kids any longer in an area where they heard gunfire every night." Sure, North City, other parts of North County and parts of South City are probably worse, but Ferguson is still not a place, prior to this weekend, I'd feel safe walking up and down the street.St. Louis Bob said:No it isn't. There has been a lot of money invested and redevelopment the last 15 years or so. It's terrible this kid lost his life and it's terrible for a city that has been making a big come back.Ghost Rider said:FYI, Ferguson, where this happened, is one of the worst areas of the St. Louis metropolitan area. I had a bunch of relatives who grew up there decades ago, and it was a good area then, but it has gone way downhill in the last 20 years, and last night was a prime example of this. Sad. Very sad.![]()
Your statement was "knee jerk", good try tho...Just making an observation like Gramps.Bit defensive aren't ya?Also amazing how from the comments you can tell the bigots and racists here at least 90% of the time.GrandpaRox said:Amazing how you can tell the race of a criminal by hearing what the crime was. At least 90%% of the time.![]()
Tell me all about it, Peens.Your statement was "knee jerk", good try tho...Just making an observation like Gramps.Bit defensive aren't ya?Also amazing how from the comments you can tell the bigots and racists here at least 90% of the time.GrandpaRox said:Amazing how you can tell the race of a criminal by hearing what the crime was. At least 90%% of the time.![]()
I don't need to tell you, you already know I'm right....Tell me all about it, Peens.Your statement was "knee jerk", good try tho...Just making an observation like Gramps.Bit defensive aren't ya?Also amazing how from the comments you can tell the bigots and racists here at least 90% of the time.GrandpaRox said:Amazing how you can tell the race of a criminal by hearing what the crime was. At least 90%% of the time.![]()
I don't need to tell you, you already know I'm right....Tell me all about it, Peens.Your statement was "knee jerk", good try tho...Just making an observation like Gramps.Bit defensive aren't ya?Also amazing how from the comments you can tell the bigots and racists here at least 90% of the time.GrandpaRox said:Amazing how you can tell the race of a criminal by hearing what the crime was. At least 90%% of the time.![]()
Should I happily skip down the street in neighborhoods that report high crime and where hearing gunfire is commonplace?SheeshGhost Rider said:I don't want to quibble over what is and what isn't the worst area in the area, but while Ferguson has dressed it up a bit over the years (the big shopping center at W. Florissant and Lucas and Hunt, although that might be Jennings...cannot remember), crime is still not good there from what I have know, and their schooling system is off the charts bad. A co-worker with two young children actually moved out of that area last year (she lived just off Chambers, where a lot of that stuff last night happened) because, in her words, "she couldn't raise her kids any longer in an area where they heard gunfire every night." Sure, North City, other parts of North County and parts of South City are probably worse, but Ferguson is still not a place, prior to this weekend, I'd feel safe walking up and down the street.St. Louis Bob said:No it isn't. There has been a lot of money invested and redevelopment the last 15 years or so. It's terrible this kid lost his life and it's terrible for a city that has been making a big come back.Ghost Rider said:FYI, Ferguson, where this happened, is one of the worst areas of the St. Louis metropolitan area. I had a bunch of relatives who grew up there decades ago, and it was a good area then, but it has gone way downhill in the last 20 years, and last night was a prime example of this. Sad. Very sad.![]()
Make sure you download the sketchfactor app first.Should I happily skip down the street in neighborhoods that report high crime and where hearing gunfire is commonplace?SheeshGhost Rider said:I don't want to quibble over what is and what isn't the worst area in the area, but while Ferguson has dressed it up a bit over the years (the big shopping center at W. Florissant and Lucas and Hunt, although that might be Jennings...cannot remember), crime is still not good there from what I have know, and their schooling system is off the charts bad. A co-worker with two young children actually moved out of that area last year (she lived just off Chambers, where a lot of that stuff last night happened) because, in her words, "she couldn't raise her kids any longer in an area where they heard gunfire every night." Sure, North City, other parts of North County and parts of South City are probably worse, but Ferguson is still not a place, prior to this weekend, I'd feel safe walking up and down the street.St. Louis Bob said:No it isn't. There has been a lot of money invested and redevelopment the last 15 years or so. It's terrible this kid lost his life and it's terrible for a city that has been making a big come back.Ghost Rider said:FYI, Ferguson, where this happened, is one of the worst areas of the St. Louis metropolitan area. I had a bunch of relatives who grew up there decades ago, and it was a good area then, but it has gone way downhill in the last 20 years, and last night was a prime example of this. Sad. Very sad.![]()
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dc-news-crew-robbed-while-reporting-on-sketchy-neighborhoods/Make sure you download the sketchfactor app first.Should I happily skip down the street in neighborhoods that report high crime and where hearing gunfire is commonplace?SheeshGhost Rider said:I don't want to quibble over what is and what isn't the worst area in the area, but while Ferguson has dressed it up a bit over the years (the big shopping center at W. Florissant and Lucas and Hunt, although that might be Jennings...cannot remember), crime is still not good there from what I have know, and their schooling system is off the charts bad. A co-worker with two young children actually moved out of that area last year (she lived just off Chambers, where a lot of that stuff last night happened) because, in her words, "she couldn't raise her kids any longer in an area where they heard gunfire every night." Sure, North City, other parts of North County and parts of South City are probably worse, but Ferguson is still not a place, prior to this weekend, I'd feel safe walking up and down the street.St. Louis Bob said:No it isn't. There has been a lot of money invested and redevelopment the last 15 years or so. It's terrible this kid lost his life and it's terrible for a city that has been making a big come back.Ghost Rider said:FYI, Ferguson, where this happened, is one of the worst areas of the St. Louis metropolitan area. I had a bunch of relatives who grew up there decades ago, and it was a good area then, but it has gone way downhill in the last 20 years, and last night was a prime example of this. Sad. Very sad.![]()
NYC stop and frisk comes to mindjon_mx said:show me the policies.urbanhack said:OK.jon_mx said:I just don't believe in today's world of hyper-sensitivity towards racism that institutionalized racism exists anywhere except very small pockets. Any policy which even hints of racism is weeded out.![]()
Don't the cops have dashboard cams?im waiting for some cell phone video to emerge with the shooting on it...broad daylight in the middle of the street and nobody video taped it ??? C`MON MAN
unless this happened behind the cruiser it should be on tapeDon't the cops have dashboard cams?im waiting for some cell phone video to emerge with the shooting on it...broad daylight in the middle of the street and nobody video taped it ??? C`MON MAN
Good grief. If that account is accurate, those cops should spend the rest of their lives in prison.Weird that the police haven't interviewed Brown's friend that he was walking with and who observed the whole situation, no?
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/eyewitness-michael-brown-fatal-shooting-missouri
Why would they need his end of the story? It doesn't fit what is going in the police report especially the part where a bullet ricocheted and hit Brown in the back.Weird that the police haven't interviewed Brown's friend that he was walking with and who observed the whole situation, no?
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/eyewitness-michael-brown-fatal-shooting-missouri
I live in Petworth, the "sketchy" neighborhood where this happened. Been there over a year with a wife and two small children. Never been the victim of a crime. Never seen a "real" crime (i.e. more than smoking weed) taking place.http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dc-news-crew-robbed-while-reporting-on-sketchy-neighborhoods/Make sure you download the sketchfactor app first.Should I happily skip down the street in neighborhoods that report high crime and where hearing gunfire is commonplace?SheeshGhost Rider said:I don't want to quibble over what is and what isn't the worst area in the area, but while Ferguson has dressed it up a bit over the years (the big shopping center at W. Florissant and Lucas and Hunt, although that might be Jennings...cannot remember), crime is still not good there from what I have know, and their schooling system is off the charts bad. A co-worker with two young children actually moved out of that area last year (she lived just off Chambers, where a lot of that stuff last night happened) because, in her words, "she couldn't raise her kids any longer in an area where they heard gunfire every night." Sure, North City, other parts of North County and parts of South City are probably worse, but Ferguson is still not a place, prior to this weekend, I'd feel safe walking up and down the street.St. Louis Bob said:No it isn't. There has been a lot of money invested and redevelopment the last 15 years or so. It's terrible this kid lost his life and it's terrible for a city that has been making a big come back.Ghost Rider said:FYI, Ferguson, where this happened, is one of the worst areas of the St. Louis metropolitan area. I had a bunch of relatives who grew up there decades ago, and it was a good area then, but it has gone way downhill in the last 20 years, and last night was a prime example of this. Sad. Very sad.![]()
It is a policy which effectively has reduced crime in high crime areas. There is no racism behind the policies. So far the voters of New York (mostly black voters) have voted for people in favor of these policies and the polices have survived legal challenges to date. It is an area of debate whether the loss of freedom is worth the results, but I don't see it as proof of institutionalized racism. The policy is well known and is supported by many minorities.NYC stop and frisk comes to mindThat was fairly recent wasn't it?jon_mx said:show me the policies.urbanhack said:OK.jon_mx said:I just don't believe in today's world of hyper-sensitivity towards racism that institutionalized racism exists anywhere except very small pockets. Any policy which even hints of racism is weeded out.![]()
Remember when Willy Wonka put those golden tickets in those candy bars? Supposedly they were distributed all around the world ... and it just so happened that every single one of them was found by English-speaking white people? That's some kinda coincidence, don't you think?jon_mx said:show me the policies.urbanhack said:OK.jon_mx said:I just don't believe in today's world of hyper-sensitivity towards racism that institutionalized racism exists anywhere except very small pockets. Any policy which even hints of racism is weeded out.![]()
Would you be so offended if he'd placed that exact quote in the Tony Stewart thread? Because that's the thread I thought I was in when I read that at the top (honest, I left and came back and thought I was still reading the Tony thread). The dichotomy of that first statement changes so much within the context of the two different threads.Also amazing how from the comments you can tell the bigots and racists here at least 90% of the time.GrandpaRox said:Amazing how you can tell the race of a criminal by hearing what the crime was. At least 90%% of the time.
Remember when the cow jumped over the moon....Remember when Willy Wonka put those golden tickets in those candy bars? Supposedly they were distributed all around the world ... and it just so happened that every single one of them was found by English-speaking white people? That's some kinda coincidence, don't you think?jon_mx said:show me the policies.urbanhack said:OK.jon_mx said:I just don't believe in today's world of hyper-sensitivity towards racism that institutionalized racism exists anywhere except very small pockets. Any policy which even hints of racism is weeded out.![]()
Augustus was German, though.Remember when Willy Wonka put those golden tickets in those candy bars? Supposedly they were distributed all around the world ... and it just so happened that every single one of them was found by English-speaking white people? That's some kinda coincidence, don't you think?jon_mx said:show me the policies.urbanhack said:OK.jon_mx said:I just don't believe in today's world of hyper-sensitivity towards racism that institutionalized racism exists anywhere except very small pockets. Any policy which even hints of racism is weeded out.![]()
Just more evidence of institutionalized racism. Clearly the candy was being distributed internationally, and yet not one non-white in the bunch (until Violet got to the blueberry pie gum of course).Augustus was German, though.Remember when Willy Wonka put those golden tickets in those candy bars? Supposedly they were distributed all around the world ... and it just so happened that every single one of them was found by English-speaking white people? That's some kinda coincidence, don't you think?jon_mx said:show me the policies.urbanhack said:OK.jon_mx said:I just don't believe in today's world of hyper-sensitivity towards racism that institutionalized racism exists anywhere except very small pockets. Any policy which even hints of racism is weeded out.![]()
This?The idiocy continues:
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/shoe-store-looted-in-south-st-louis/article_91c22bfc-7230-5814-8478-50bff76d86ea.html
Supposedly, there are morons on social media who are encouraging the looters from the other night to do the same thing in other parts of the city.
Weird that the police haven't interviewed Brown's friend that he was walking with and who observed the whole situation, no?
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/eyewitness-michael-brown-fatal-shooting-missouri
There are two crowds. An older crowd that wants justice but there’s anger. Then it’s the younger crowd that wants revenge but there’s anger there, too,”
Three crowds. There is another crowd that just wants some free stuff.Weird that the police haven't interviewed Brown's friend that he was walking with and who observed the whole situation, no?
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/eyewitness-michael-brown-fatal-shooting-missouriThere are two crowds. An older crowd that wants justice but there’s anger. Then it’s the younger crowd that wants revenge but there’s anger there, too,”
I can no longer read this word without using the voice of this kid.....apparently the looters are coming in from other states to cash in on the free teevees
Good grief. If that account is accurate, those cops should spend the rest of their lives in prison.Weird that the police haven't interviewed Brown's friend that he was walking with and who observed the whole situation, no?
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/eyewitness-michael-brown-fatal-shooting-missouri
I hadn't seen them all summed up in one link like that, but yeah. Nothing like responding to racism by throwing out some racism of your own.This?The idiocy continues:
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/shoe-store-looted-in-south-st-louis/article_91c22bfc-7230-5814-8478-50bff76d86ea.html
Supposedly, there are morons on social media who are encouraging the looters from the other night to do the same thing in other parts of the city.
Agreed. I think you'll have some who will take the "He's just saying that cause he was friends with the victim" stance, but like you said, given how descriptive he was, so long as his story remains consistent, it should be taken seriously and not dismissed.Good grief. If that account is accurate, those cops should spend the rest of their lives in prison.Weird that the police haven't interviewed Brown's friend that he was walking with and who observed the whole situation, no?
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/eyewitness-michael-brown-fatal-shooting-missouri![]()
With how descriptive that narrative is, hard to believe he isn't telling the truth.
Forensics should be able to validate his story at least to some degree.Good grief. If that account is accurate, those cops should spend the rest of their lives in prison.Weird that the police haven't interviewed Brown's friend that he was walking with and who observed the whole situation, no?
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/eyewitness-michael-brown-fatal-shooting-missouri![]()
With how descriptive that narrative is, hard to believe he isn't telling the truth.
A quick google search produced thisIt is a policy which effectively has reduced crime in high crime areas. There is no racism behind the policies. So far the voters of New York (mostly black voters) have voted for people in favor of these policies and the polices have survived legal challenges to date. It is an area of debate whether the loss of freedom is worth the results, but I don't see it as proof of institutionalized racism. The policy is well known and is supported by many minorities.NYC stop and frisk comes to mindThat was fairly recent wasn't it?jon_mx said:show me the policies.urbanhack said:OK.jon_mx said:I just don't believe in today's world of hyper-sensitivity towards racism that institutionalized racism exists anywhere except very small pockets. Any policy which even hints of racism is weeded out.![]()
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/30/us/new-york-drops-stop-frisk-appeal/“We’re here today to turn the page on one of the most divisive problems in our city”. Mr. de Blasio said at a news conference. “We believe in ending the overuse of stop-and-frisk that has unfairly targeted young African-American and Latino men.”
The judge, Shira A. Scheindlin of Federal Distrct Court in Manhattan, found that the department’s stop and frisk tatics were unconstitutional, and that it had resorted to “a policy of indirect racial profiling.” At the height of the program, in the first quarter of 2012, the police stopped people – mostly black and Latino men – on more than 200,000 occasions. A vast majority were found to have done nothing wrong.
[SIZE=10.5pt](CNN)[/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt] [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]-- New York Mayor Bill de Blasio Thursday announced a settlement in the long legal battle over the police department's controversial stop-and-frisk policies, which a federal judge ruled violated the rights of minority residents.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]In addition to dropping its appeal of the ruling, the city will implement reforms aimed at improving strained relations between police and the community.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]De Blasio, who targeted the policing practice during his mayoral campaign to succeed Michael Bloomberg, called the settlement ending the Floyd vs. City of New York case "historic" and said it closes the years-long legal fight that found the overuse of stop-and-frisk unconstitutional.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]De Blasio said 90% of the people who were stopped and frisked were innocent of any crimes.[/SIZE]
I could shoot speeders in the head when I pull them over and it would effectively reduce speeding. Doesn't make it right. How in the world can you say there is no racism behind policies when they pick particular races to profile. That statement is absurd. Plus reductions in crime in NYC mirror other areas where crime has dropped without stop and frisk.It is a policy which effectively has reduced crime in high crime areas. There is no racism behind the policies. So far the voters of New York (mostly black voters) have voted for people in favor of these policies and the polices have survived legal challenges to date. It is an area of debate whether the loss of freedom is worth the results, but I don't see it as proof of institutionalized racism. The policy is well known and is supported by many minorities.NYC stop and frisk comes to mindThat was fairly recent wasn't it?jon_mx said:show me the policies.urbanhack said:OK.jon_mx said:I just don't believe in today's world of hyper-sensitivity towards racism that institutionalized racism exists anywhere except very small pockets. Any policy which even hints of racism is weeded out.![]()
You have some awesome guilt going on, congrats....I could shoot speeders in the head when I pull them over and it would effectively reduce speeding. Doesn't make it right. How in the world can you say there is no racism behind policies when they pick particular races to profile. That statement is absurd. Plus reductions in crime in NYC mirror other areas where crime has dropped without stop and frisk.It is a policy which effectively has reduced crime in high crime areas. There is no racism behind the policies. So far the voters of New York (mostly black voters) have voted for people in favor of these policies and the polices have survived legal challenges to date. It is an area of debate whether the loss of freedom is worth the results, but I don't see it as proof of institutionalized racism. The policy is well known and is supported by many minorities.NYC stop and frisk comes to mindThat was fairly recent wasn't it?jon_mx said:show me the policies.urbanhack said:OK.jon_mx said:I just don't believe in today's world of hyper-sensitivity towards racism that institutionalized racism exists anywhere except very small pockets. Any policy which even hints of racism is weeded out.![]()
It's amazing how people can be so obtusely blind to the black experience. I'm not excusing looting or any other crime for that matter. But if you think the deck isn't stacked against black people with the amount of evidence in the justice system; with the policies banks and other financial institutions have in minority neighborhoods; with the education system etc etc there's nothing at this point that can possibly change your mind. It's so evident to me it doesn't even merit debate. But here we are.
Think to yourself why there are even black neighborhoods in the first place. You think a lot of those people wouldn't move to better neighborhoods if they could? You think there's no housing discrimination? If you can't see that stuff that's plain as day your just a putz who has no idea what he's talking about.
My background is such that I've lived with minorities of all stripes. I've heard there stories. I've been out with them and experienced it first hand. I was ten times the thug that someof my black friends ever thought about being and somehow the trouble would find them. Like some kind of magic. I keep thinking for why that is and I just can't understand it. People like Jon "whitesplain" to me that racism doesn't exist so it can't be that.
I feel the same way about Bank of America.Needless (allegedly) tragedy combined with senseless crime (very definitely) makes for an interesting discussion here in the FFA. I don't think anyone seriously commenting in this thread is happy a young man died, but I don't think anyone in here was at the scene either. Unfortunately we won't know what really happened for a while, assuming the courts and investigators do their job. The one thing we do know for sure is the looting is ridiculous. I don't care who was killed or why. It's a shame these people have so little respect for their community they would participate in such madness. My feeling is that lack of respect is part of the problem in the first place.
I feel the same way about right wingers.I feel the same way about Bank of America.Needless (allegedly) tragedy combined with senseless crime (very definitely) makes for an interesting discussion here in the FFA. I don't think anyone seriously commenting in this thread is happy a young man died, but I don't think anyone in here was at the scene either. Unfortunately we won't know what really happened for a while, assuming the courts and investigators do their job. The one thing we do know for sure is the looting is ridiculous. I don't care who was killed or why. It's a shame these people have so little respect for their community they would participate in such madness. My feeling is that lack of respect is part of the problem in the first place.
Just not about the looters. That makes sense coming from a pagan communist such as yourself.I feel the same way about right wingers.I feel the same way about Bank of America.Needless (allegedly) tragedy combined with senseless crime (very definitely) makes for an interesting discussion here in the FFA. I don't think anyone seriously commenting in this thread is happy a young man died, but I don't think anyone in here was at the scene either. Unfortunately we won't know what really happened for a while, assuming the courts and investigators do their job. The one thing we do know for sure is the looting is ridiculous. I don't care who was killed or why. It's a shame these people have so little respect for their community they would participate in such madness. My feeling is that lack of respect is part of the problem in the first place.
That would be quite a trickJust not about the looters. That makes sense coming from a pagan communist such as yourself.I feel the same way about right wingers.I feel the same way about Bank of America.Needless (allegedly) tragedy combined with senseless crime (very definitely) makes for an interesting discussion here in the FFA. I don't think anyone seriously commenting in this thread is happy a young man died, but I don't think anyone in here was at the scene either. Unfortunately we won't know what really happened for a while, assuming the courts and investigators do their job. The one thing we do know for sure is the looting is ridiculous. I don't care who was killed or why. It's a shame these people have so little respect for their community they would participate in such madness. My feeling is that lack of respect is part of the problem in the first place.
But would it be the greatest trick the Devil ever pulled?That would be quite a trickJust not about the looters. That makes sense coming from a pagan communist such as yourself.I feel the same way about right wingers.I feel the same way about Bank of America.Needless (allegedly) tragedy combined with senseless crime (very definitely) makes for an interesting discussion here in the FFA. I don't think anyone seriously commenting in this thread is happy a young man died, but I don't think anyone in here was at the scene either. Unfortunately we won't know what really happened for a while, assuming the courts and investigators do their job. The one thing we do know for sure is the looting is ridiculous. I don't care who was killed or why. It's a shame these people have so little respect for their community they would participate in such madness. My feeling is that lack of respect is part of the problem in the first place.
He used to call me a "fake Jew" and call me gay/a woman. At least he now realizes that I don't consider those things insults.That would be quite a trickJust not about the looters. That makes sense coming from a pagan communist such as yourself.I feel the same way about right wingers.I feel the same way about Bank of America.Needless (allegedly) tragedy combined with senseless crime (very definitely) makes for an interesting discussion here in the FFA. I don't think anyone seriously commenting in this thread is happy a young man died, but I don't think anyone in here was at the scene either. Unfortunately we won't know what really happened for a while, assuming the courts and investigators do their job. The one thing we do know for sure is the looting is ridiculous. I don't care who was killed or why. It's a shame these people have so little respect for their community they would participate in such madness. My feeling is that lack of respect is part of the problem in the first place.