Looting in Missouri after cops shoot 18 year old (8 Viewers)

[Greggity]

Threads like this are always great, because once every six months when one like this pops up, you can quickly sift through and find who is making the biggest idiot of themselves, then ignore them. It's like a magnet for the current aliases of peens, MasterofOrion, johnjohn and all the other hillbillies that make the FFA horrible.

Next time ill give the looters and rioters props and my blessing next time a minority gets a speeding ticket mmkay sweetcheeks....

 

[Ghost Rider]

Christopher Hayes ‏@chrislhayes 45m

I interviewed the key witness to the Michael Brown shooting last night. The police haven't. Think about that.

Not only that, but according to his lawyer, they have contacted the police department, offered an interview, and were declined.

The Ferguson PD is no longer doing the investigation and it is being handled by the St Louis county/city (can't remember which one). This might be why it was declined.

Regarding why the key witness (the friend of the victim) has not been interviewed by the police, the cops released a statement today saying that they have repeatedly tried to reach him, but he hasn't called them back, and eventually it came out that the witness doesn't want to speak with the police because he doesn't trust them. Once the feds come in and take it over altogether, then he'll probably give his official statement, I would think.

Ahhh... So Chris Hayes, this guy's lawyer and everyone else who criticized the police for not interviewing this kid were either misleading people or didn't know what they were talking about.

Sounds like it, yeah.

 

[matttyl]

CNN captures officer taunting: "Bring it. All you ####### animals. Bring it."

link

How can you blame him? Look at what he's in the middle of....what he's up against. People are going to be offended by bad words here?

When a cop refers to humans as animals, he has performed the job of judge and jury. That's not his his assignment.

To serve and protect, not judge.

Sounds like you're doing the same thing by judging him. Is that your "assignment"? Just saying.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Threads like this are always great, because once every six months when one like this pops up, you can quickly sift through and find who is making the biggest idiot of themselves, then ignore them. It's like a magnet for the current aliases of peens, MasterofOrion, johnjohn and all the other hillbillies that make the FFA horrible.

Next time ill give the looters and rioters props and my blessing next time a minority gets a speeding ticket mmkay sweetcheeks....

http://bit.ly/1sVcyHI

 

[urbanhack]

CNN captures officer taunting: "Bring it. All you ####### animals. Bring it."

link

How can you blame him? Look at what he's in the middle of....what he's up against. People are going to be offended by bad words here?

When a cop refers to humans as animals, he has performed the job of judge and jury. That's not his his assignment.

To serve and protect, not judge.

Sounds like you're doing the same thing by judging him.

LOL you guys are priceless.

 

[saintsfan]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

 

[Politician Spock]

So what's the real scoop here?

It's Rocky Road with whipped cream, a cherry, and lots and lots of nuts!

 

[Ghost Rider]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

I completely agree with all of this. Well said.

 

[TobiasFunke]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

Those killings are tragedies ... but are you really confused as to why they don't get the same attention as a cop gunning down an unarmed black man, or alleging that it's simply because they don't fit some activist narrative? Come on. There's a perfectly good reason this story is and should be getting a lot more attention than your run of the mill homicide.

 

[Greggity]

Threads like this are always great, because once every six months when one like this pops up, you can quickly sift through and find who is making the biggest idiot of themselves, then ignore them. It's like a magnet for the current aliases of peens, MasterofOrion, johnjohn and all the other hillbillies that make the FFA horrible.

Next time ill give the looters and rioters props and my blessing next time a minority gets a speeding ticket mmkay sweetcheeks....

http://bit.ly/1sVcyHI

That's cute, whatever helps you sleep better at night potsie....

 

[MikeMan]

I can't believe those looters dumped the tea in the harbor!

 

[Lutherman2112]

Holy cow: FAA Implements No-Fly Zone in Ferguson Amid Unrest Over Killed Teen

Police say their helicopter was shot at multiple times Sunday

The Federal Aviation Administration issued a no-fly zone over Ferguson, Missouri, Tuesday at the request of the St. Louis County Police Department.

The St. Louis County Police Department told TIME it asked the FAA for the flight restriction after a police helicopter was fired upon “multiple times” during civil unrest Sunday. Ferguson, located just outside St. Louis, Missouri, erupted in street violence amid demonstrations sparked by the death of Michael Brown, a black teenager who was shot and killed by police on Saturday.

The FAA order restricts flights over the Ferguson area below 3,000 feet to first responders only, including medical and police helicopters. Private aircraft, including news helicopters, are prohibited from flying below 3,000 feet in a 3-mile radius around the town. The rule doesn’t apply to aircraft landing at or taking off from the nearby Lambert–St. Louis International Airport, a major commercial hub. The restriction is in place through August 18.

The order says the flight restrictions were put in place “to provide a safe environment for law enforcement activities.” The FAA would not elaborate further on the reason for the St. Louis County Police Department’s request. “If you want it, file a FOIA,” FAA Spokesperson Elizabeth Cory told TIME, in reference to a Freedom of Information Act request.

It’s not unusual for local police departments to request flight restrictions over potentially dangerous zones, and it’s typically done to clear airspace for police helicopter operations. The Ferguson restriction, however, may make it more difficult for news media to get aerial footage of the town as the Brown story continues to develop.

“If we feel that order is restored we can request ran early termination,” St. Louis County police spokesperson Bryan Schellman told TIME.

Also: http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_2599.html

 

[squistion]

Christopher Hayes ‏@chrislhayes 45m

I interviewed the key witness to the Michael Brown shooting last night. The police haven't. Think about that.

Not only that, but according to his lawyer, they have contacted the police department, offered an interview, and were declined.

The Ferguson PD is no longer doing the investigation and it is being handled by the St Louis county/city (can't remember which one). This might be why it was declined.

Regarding why the key witness (the friend of the victim) has not been interviewed by the police, the cops released a statement today saying that they have repeatedly tried to reach him, but he hasn't called them back, and eventually it came out that the witness doesn't want to speak with the police because he doesn't trust them. Once the feds come in and take it over altogether, then he'll probably give his official statement, I would think.

Could you be so kind as to provide a link to the bolded? I guess I am not using the right search words, but I can't seem to verify the police statement that Johnson was contacted repeatedly and that he refused to meet because he doesn't trust them.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Holy cow: FAA Implements No-Fly Zone in Ferguson Amid Unrest Over Killed Teen

Police say their helicopter was shot at multiple times Sunday

Also: http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_2599.html

Sounds like a nice place.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Christopher Hayes ‏@chrislhayes 45m

I interviewed the key witness to the Michael Brown shooting last night. The police haven't. Think about that.

Not only that, but according to his lawyer, they have contacted the police department, offered an interview, and were declined.

The Ferguson PD is no longer doing the investigation and it is being handled by the St Louis county/city (can't remember which one). This might be why it was declined.

Regarding why the key witness (the friend of the victim) has not been interviewed by the police, the cops released a statement today saying that they have repeatedly tried to reach him, but he hasn't called them back, and eventually it came out that the witness doesn't want to speak with the police because he doesn't trust them. Once the feds come in and take it over altogether, then he'll probably give his official statement, I would think.

Could you be so kind as to provide a link to the bolded? I guess I am not using the right search words, but I can't seem to verify the police statement that Johnson was contacted repeatedly and that he refused to meet because he doesn't trust them.

I saw it on the news. It took some work to find it, but here is this:

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2014/08/michael_brown_witness_dorian_johnson_why_police_have_not_interviewed_him.php

Relevant part:

Daily RFT asked St. Louis County police spokesman Brian Schellman why police haven't interviewed Johnson.

"We have reached out to him and looked for him on numerous occasions. We've also contacted his friends," he said. "We reached out to his attorney's office, we put a call in to his attorney, and we're waiting on a return phone call."

Daily RFT asked Schellman to clarify whether or not they'd actually been to Johnson's house to try to find him, and he affirmed that officers had.

"We've been unsuccessful," he said.

 

[Slapdash]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

The light never would have been shined on the situation if not for the pontification about looting.

 

[TobiasFunke]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

The light never would have been shined on the situation if not for the pontification about looting.

I don't know about that. But I'd say that comment misses the obvious connection between the two. If the police are gunning down innocent black people, why should they feel that they can play by the rules and trust "the system" to reward them and law enforcement to defend them? That's a huge part of why those people are gunned down every day.

It's not hundreds, by the way. There's like 30-35 gun homicides a day in the US, and not all of them have inner-city black victims.

 

[jonessed]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

There's no money in covering gang violence.

 

[meatwad1]

Another person shot by cops last night...it is really nice to see the liberal leadership step up and forcefully condemn this looting and madness. <_<

From here it looks like they are all too busy calling anyone who doesn't agree with them a member of the klan, meanwhile our streets are being turned into a war zone.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/uneasy-night-a-police-shooting-more-tear-gas-in-ferguson/article_7fb366f0-2f29-5bdd-b18b-34c9d8c688e7.html

 

[lod01]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

There's no money in covering gang violence.

And don't think Rev. Al hasn't crunched those numbers either. If there was a dime to make in gang violence, Al would be there.

Where's Jesse? Dude is slipping.

 

[TobiasFunke]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

There's no money in covering gang violence.

And don't think Rev. Al hasn't crunched those numbers either. If there was a dime to make in gang violence, Al would be there.

Where's Jesse? Dude is slipping.

Good to see people focusing on the important issues here- insulting leaders in the black community that they don't like for things they're not doing.

 

[jonessed]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

There's no money in covering gang violence.

And don't think Rev. Al hasn't crunched those numbers either. If there was a dime to make in gang violence, Al would be there.Where's Jesse? Dude is slipping.

Good to see people focusing on the important issues here- insulting leaders in the black community that they don't like for things they're not doing.

I agree.

 

[meatwad1]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

There's no money in covering gang violence.

And don't think Rev. Al hasn't crunched those numbers either. If there was a dime to make in gang violence, Al would be there.

Where's Jesse? Dude is slipping.

Good to see people focusing on the important issues here- insulting leaders in the black community that they don't like for things they're not doing.

Yeah...as opposed to your usual tactics of pointing out how anyone you don't agree with is a racist, homophobe, or neanderthal.

To your point, what great insight do you have to add here, except to sling another underhanded insult at another poster? I'll wait with bated breath for your next clever putdown.

 

[TobiasFunke]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

There's no money in covering gang violence.

And don't think Rev. Al hasn't crunched those numbers either. If there was a dime to make in gang violence, Al would be there.Where's Jesse? Dude is slipping.

Good to see people focusing on the important issues here- insulting leaders in the black community that they don't like for things they're not doing.

I agree.

Always interesting to see how far people will stretch to turn any issue or event around so they can take sides and trash political opponents.

What's that? A black kid was gunned down while fleeing the scene by a police officer and left in the street to rot and now the black community is outraged and there's riots and looting? Damn you, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton!!!

 

[squistion]

Another person shot by cops last night...it is really nice to see the liberal leadership step up and forcefully condemn this looting and madness. <_<

From here it looks like they are all too busy calling anyone who doesn't agree with them a member of the klan, meanwhile our streets are being turned into a war zone.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/uneasy-night-a-police-shooting-more-tear-gas-in-ferguson/article_7fb366f0-2f29-5bdd-b18b-34c9d8c688e7.html

http://fox2now.com/2014/08/12/live-updates-rev-al-sharpton-speaks-in-st-louis/

ST. LOUIS, MO (KTVI) – The Reverend Al Sharpton stood with the family of Michael Brown Tuesday afternoon in St. Louis and spoke out against the violence in Fergurson and other parts of the area.

Sharpton came to town at the request of the family of the deceased 18-year-old.

“We did not come to divide the city, we came to bring the city under one accord,” Sharpton said Tuesday.

Standing on the stairs of the Old Courthouse, Sharpton called for peace saying that the looting and violent behavior only dishonors the memory of Michael Brown.

 

[Yenrub]

Another person shot by cops last night...it is really nice to see the liberal leadership step up and forcefully condemn this looting and madness. <_<

From here it looks like they are all too busy calling anyone who doesn't agree with them a member of the klan, meanwhile our streets are being turned into a war zone.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/uneasy-night-a-police-shooting-more-tear-gas-in-ferguson/article_7fb366f0-2f29-5bdd-b18b-34c9d8c688e7.html

August 12, 2014 5:58 PM EDT — National Action Network leader and TV host Al Sharpton spoke in St.Louis, Mo., on Tuesday urging residents to avoid violence following the shooting death of an unarmed black teen by a police officer on Saturday. (AP)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/national/mom-of-missouri-teen-he-didnt-deserve-that/2014/08/12/71fb38a2-6000-4e6f-92ce-5fc17b714a3f_video.html

 

[jonessed]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

There's no money in covering gang violence.

And don't think Rev. Al hasn't crunched those numbers either. If there was a dime to make in gang violence, Al would be there.Where's Jesse? Dude is slipping.

Good to see people focusing on the important issues here- insulting leaders in the black community that they don't like for things they're not doing.

I agree.

Always interesting to see how far people will stretch to turn any issue or event around so they can take sides and trash political opponents.

What's that? A black kid was gunned down while fleeing the scene by a police officer and left in the street to rot and now the black community is outraged and there's riots and looting? Damn you, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton!!!

We don't know all the details of what happened yet. Perhaps I'm just more patient than you.

 

[TobiasFunke]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

There's no money in covering gang violence.

And don't think Rev. Al hasn't crunched those numbers either. If there was a dime to make in gang violence, Al would be there.Where's Jesse? Dude is slipping.

Good to see people focusing on the important issues here- insulting leaders in the black community that they don't like for things they're not doing.

I agree.

Always interesting to see how far people will stretch to turn any issue or event around so they can take sides and trash political opponents.

What's that? A black kid was gunned down while fleeing the scene by a police officer and left in the street to rot and now the black community is outraged and there's riots and looting? Damn you, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton!!!

We don't know all the details of what happened yet. Perhaps I'm just more patient than you.

The only details I posted were taken from the police officers' account. If anything that's the best-case, least scandalous scenario for law enforcement.

 

[dickey moe]

So what's the real scoop here?

A young black kid got shot by a cop, perhaps unjustifiably so, and it's really ####### sad.

 

[TPW]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

Al Sharpton's only goal is hitting up the white establishment for his own financial gain. That's why you never hear from him regarding the much more substantial problem of black on black violence.

As for the progressive leaning mainstream media, white racism is the ultimate sin in their eyes and it's instant front page news when even the slightest possibility of it presents itself. It's treated as an even worse offense than murder. Who cares about just another black or Hispanic gangland shooting? It's not about doing what's right for the community, it's about advancing the narrative and sensationalizing the stories as much as possible for ratings.

 

[jonessed]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

There's no money in covering gang violence.

And don't think Rev. Al hasn't crunched those numbers either. If there was a dime to make in gang violence, Al would be there.Where's Jesse? Dude is slipping.

Good to see people focusing on the important issues here- insulting leaders in the black community that they don't like for things they're not doing.

I agree.

Always interesting to see how far people will stretch to turn any issue or event around so they can take sides and trash political opponents.

What's that? A black kid was gunned down while fleeing the scene by a police officer and left in the street to rot and now the black community is outraged and there's riots and looting? Damn you, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton!!!

We don't know all the details of what happened yet. Perhaps I'm just more patient than you.

The only details I posted were taken from the police officers' account. If anything that's the best-case, least scandalous scenario for law enforcement.

Perhaps you should try reading it again.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

unfortunately the guy that tossed the first rock through a business window is a local hero.....and many of the people there were just waiting for it to "go off" so they could get some free ####....opportunist who if you walked into their home probably couldn't even tell you the name of the victim in this case while they played their new XBox game on their new TV....not sure why we are surprised by this and really have discussions about it....it's happened before, it's happening now, and it will happen again...to me this is the expected reaction in some situations and not really a surprise....it's not going to be any different next time......deal with it....

 

[timschochet]

I still detest Al Sharpton, but I give him credit in this instance for speaking out against the violence and looting. He's doing some good for once.

Jesse Jackson, on the other hand, while I disagree with his politics, has a long history of speaking out against violence, dating back to the Rodney King Riots and well before that. He is also constantly speaking out against black on black crimes, which so many people here seem strangely focused on.

 

[TobiasFunke]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

There's no money in covering gang violence.

And don't think Rev. Al hasn't crunched those numbers either. If there was a dime to make in gang violence, Al would be there.Where's Jesse? Dude is slipping.

Good to see people focusing on the important issues here- insulting leaders in the black community that they don't like for things they're not doing.

I agree.

Always interesting to see how far people will stretch to turn any issue or event around so they can take sides and trash political opponents.

What's that? A black kid was gunned down while fleeing the scene by a police officer and left in the street to rot and now the black community is outraged and there's riots and looting? Damn you, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton!!!

We don't know all the details of what happened yet. Perhaps I'm just more patient than you.

The only details I posted were taken from the police officers' account. If anything that's the best-case, least scandalous scenario for law enforcement.

Perhaps you should try reading it again.

OK, just read multiple media accounts of the police account of the incident. Pretty clear the victim was fleeing the area. Was unarmed and shot 35 feet from the car where the altercation allegedly took place. Police chief says the victim and his friend were fired on "as they ran away."

So I'm comfortable with my conclusion. I'm happy to read any information you have to the contrary, but let's not get distracted from the important issue- how can I use this incident to say negative things about politicians and activists I don't like?

 

[squistion]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

Al Sharpton's only goal is hitting up the white establishment for his own financial gain. That's why you never hear from him regarding the much more substantial problem of black on black violence.

As for the progressive leaning mainstream media, white racism is the ultimate sin in their eyes and it's instant front page news when even the slightest possibility of it presents itself. It's treated as an even worse offense than murder. Who cares about just another black or Hispanic gangland shooting? It's not about doing what's right for the community, it's about advancing the narrative and sensationalizing the stories as much as possible for ratings.

Sharpton has spoken out on black on black violence quite often, but oddly his critics seem to overlook that.

http://news.yahoo.com/black-black-crime-widely-ignored-african-american-activists-190404331.html

Black-on-black crime widely ignored, say African American activists

Following President Obama’s comments on the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, some African-American activists say the media-dominating story is distracting attention from much greater threats to African-Americans.

“Without a doubt,” Obama’s decision to highlight the February inter-racial shooting is a distraction that will likely will spur turnout for the 2012 election, T. Willard Fair, president of the Urban League of Greater Miami Inc, told The Daily Caller on Mar. 23.

But “the outrage should be about us killing each other, about black-on-black crime,” especially in Chicago, rather than a single wrongful killing in Florida, he said.

“Would you think to have 41 people shot [in Chicago] between Friday morning and Monday morning would be much more newsworthy and deserve much more outrage?” he asked...

The activists include Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Ben Jealous, head of the NAACP. Activists for the New Black Panthers and the Nation of Islam have also entered the fray.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/rev-al-sharpton-talk-violence-black-neighborhoods-article-1.292142

Rev. Al Sharpton: Let's talk about violence in black neighborhoods

The Rev. Al Sharpton is calling for a high-profile community summit to address black-on-black violence after Harlem was rocked by a wave of shootings over Memorial Day.

"Last year alone, nearly one black child a day under the age of 17 was shot and killed in New York City. Shot mostly by other black city residents," Sharpton said.

"Shootings and violence within our community by one of our own is an outrage and an issue that we must confront as diligently and as passionately as a sensational case of police misconduct or brutality."

 

[Hang 10]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

The light never would have been shined on the situation if not for the pontification about looting.

Looting for awareness definitely seems more fun than that stupid ice bucket challenge.

 

[timschochet]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

Al Sharpton's only goal is hitting up the white establishment for his own financial gain. That's why you never hear from him regarding the much more substantial problem of black on black violence.

As for the progressive leaning mainstream media, white racism is the ultimate sin in their eyes and it's instant front page news when even the slightest possibility of it presents itself. It's treated as an even worse offense than murder. Who cares about just another black or Hispanic gangland shooting? It's not about doing what's right for the community, it's about advancing the narrative and sensationalizing the stories as much as possible for ratings.

Sharpton has spoken out on black on black violence quite often, but oddly his critics seem to overlook that.

http://news.yahoo.com/black-black-crime-widely-ignored-african-american-activists-190404331.html

Black-on-black crime widely ignored, say African American activists

Following President Obamas comments on the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, some African-American activists say the media-dominating story is distracting attention from much greater threats to African-Americans.

Without a doubt, Obamas decision to highlight the February inter-racial shooting is a distraction that will likely will spur turnout for the 2012 election, T. Willard Fair, president of the Urban League of Greater Miami Inc, told The Daily Caller on Mar. 23.

But the outrage should be about us killing each other, about black-on-black crime, especially in Chicago, rather than a single wrongful killing in Florida, he said.

Would you think to have 41 people shot [in Chicago] between Friday morning and Monday morning would be much more newsworthy and deserve much more outrage? he asked...

The activists include Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Ben Jealous, head of the NAACP. Activists for the New Black Panthers and the Nation of Islam have also entered the fray.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/rev-al-sharpton-talk-violence-black-neighborhoods-article-1.292142

Rev. Al Sharpton: Let's talk about violence in black neighborhoods

The Rev. Al Sharpton is calling for a high-profile community summit to address black-on-black violence after Harlem was rocked by a wave of shootings over Memorial Day.

"Last year alone, nearly one black child a day under the age of 17 was shot and killed in New York City. Shot mostly by other black city residents," Sharpton said.

"Shootings and violence within our community by one of our own is an outrage and an issue that we must confront as diligently and as passionately as a sensational case of police misconduct or brutality."

This is in recent years, and while does deserve credit, he doesn't have the long history of discussing these issues like Jesse Jackson does.

 

[Yenrub]

Another person shot by cops last night...it is really nice to see the liberal leadership step up and forcefully condemn this looting and madness. <_<

From here it looks like they are all too busy calling anyone who doesn't agree with them a member of the klan, meanwhile our streets are being turned into a war zone.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/uneasy-night-a-police-shooting-more-tear-gas-in-ferguson/article_7fb366f0-2f29-5bdd-b18b-34c9d8c688e7.html

http://fox2now.com/2014/08/12/live-updates-rev-al-sharpton-speaks-in-st-louis/

ST. LOUIS, MO (KTVI) – The Reverend Al Sharpton stood with the family of Michael Brown Tuesday afternoon in St. Louis and spoke out against the violence in Fergurson and other parts of the area.

Sharpton came to town at the request of the family of the deceased 18-year-old.

“We did not come to divide the city, we came to bring the city under one accord,” Sharpton said Tuesday.

Standing on the stairs of the Old Courthouse, Sharpton called for peace saying that the looting and violent behavior only dishonors the memory of Michael Brown.

I’m surprised that meatwad1 missed a statement by his favorite “liberal leader” Rev. Al

 

[jonessed]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

There's no money in covering gang violence.

And don't think Rev. Al hasn't crunched those numbers either. If there was a dime to make in gang violence, Al would be there.Where's Jesse? Dude is slipping.

Good to see people focusing on the important issues here- insulting leaders in the black community that they don't like for things they're not doing.

I agree.

Always interesting to see how far people will stretch to turn any issue or event around so they can take sides and trash political opponents.

What's that? A black kid was gunned down while fleeing the scene by a police officer and left in the street to rot and now the black community is outraged and there's riots and looting? Damn you, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton!!!

We don't know all the details of what happened yet. Perhaps I'm just more patient than you.

The only details I posted were taken from the police officers' account. If anything that's the best-case, least scandalous scenario for law enforcement.

Perhaps you should try reading it again.

OK, just read multiple media accounts of the police account of the incident. Pretty clear the victim was fleeing the area. Was unarmed and shot 35 feet from the car where the altercation allegedly took place.

So I'm comfortable with my conclusion. I'm happy to read any information you have to the contrary, but let's not get distracted from the important issue- how can I use this incident to say negative things about politicians and activists I don't like?

Your account is incomplete, but you know that.

If political discussions in threads about national news stories upsets you perhaps the FFA is not for you.

 

[lod01]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

Al Sharpton's only goal is hitting up the white establishment for his own financial gain. That's why you never hear from him regarding the much more substantial problem of black on black violence.

As for the progressive leaning mainstream media, white racism is the ultimate sin in their eyes and it's instant front page news when even the slightest possibility of it presents itself. It's treated as an even worse offense than murder. Who cares about just another black or Hispanic gangland shooting? It's not about doing what's right for the community, it's about advancing the narrative and sensationalizing the stories as much as possible for ratings.

Sharpton has spoken out on black on black violence quite often, but oddly his critics seem to overlook that.

http://news.yahoo.com/black-black-crime-widely-ignored-african-american-activists-190404331.html

Black-on-black crime widely ignored, say African American activists

Following President Obama’s comments on the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, some African-American activists say the media-dominating story is distracting attention from much greater threats to African-Americans.

“Without a doubt,” Obama’s decision to highlight the February inter-racial shooting is a distraction that will likely will spur turnout for the 2012 election, T. Willard Fair, president of the Urban League of Greater Miami Inc, told The Daily Caller on Mar. 23.

But “the outrage should be about us killing each other, about black-on-black crime,” especially in Chicago, rather than a single wrongful killing in Florida, he said.

“Would you think to have 41 people shot [in Chicago] between Friday morning and Monday morning would be much more newsworthy and deserve much more outrage?” he asked...

The activists include Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Ben Jealous, head of the NAACP. Activists for the New Black Panthers and the Nation of Islam have also entered the fray.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/rev-al-sharpton-talk-violence-black-neighborhoods-article-1.292142

Rev. Al Sharpton: Let's talk about violence in black neighborhoods

The Rev. Al Sharpton is calling for a high-profile community summit to address black-on-black violence after Harlem was rocked by a wave of shootings over Memorial Day.

"Last year alone, nearly one black child a day under the age of 17 was shot and killed in New York City. Shot mostly by other black city residents," Sharpton said.

"Shootings and violence within our community by one of our own is an outrage and an issue that we must confront as diligently and as passionately as a sensational case of police misconduct or brutality."

All talk, no action, Al. The only reason he's commenting on these is because he thinks it could be a gold mine of untapped revenue he can put in his back pocket.

 

[timschochet]

Meatwad and TPW wondering "why don't these guys ever speak out against black on black crime?" reminds me of some conservatives who always wonder why Muslim leaders never speak out against Islamic violence- when in fact they always do.

The facts are out there guys, and easily accessed. But I doubt you'll ever look for them because they don't match your agenda.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Your account is incomplete, but you know that.

If political discussions in threads about national news stories upsets you perhaps the FFA is not for you.

I wasn't trying to give a complete account. And I assure you I am not upset. If you think people should have free reign to say dumb things for the sake of political finger-pointing without getting called out on it, perhaps the FFA is not for you.

 

[squistion]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

Al Sharpton's only goal is hitting up the white establishment for his own financial gain. That's why you never hear from him regarding the much more substantial problem of black on black violence.

As for the progressive leaning mainstream media, white racism is the ultimate sin in their eyes and it's instant front page news when even the slightest possibility of it presents itself. It's treated as an even worse offense than murder. Who cares about just another black or Hispanic gangland shooting? It's not about doing what's right for the community, it's about advancing the narrative and sensationalizing the stories as much as possible for ratings.

Sharpton has spoken out on black on black violence quite often, but oddly his critics seem to overlook that.

http://news.yahoo.com/black-black-crime-widely-ignored-african-american-activists-190404331.html

Black-on-black crime widely ignored, say African American activists

Following President Obama’s comments on the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, some African-American activists say the media-dominating story is distracting attention from much greater threats to African-Americans.

“Without a doubt,” Obama’s decision to highlight the February inter-racial shooting is a distraction that will likely will spur turnout for the 2012 election, T. Willard Fair, president of the Urban League of Greater Miami Inc, told The Daily Caller on Mar. 23.

But “the outrage should be about us killing each other, about black-on-black crime,” especially in Chicago, rather than a single wrongful killing in Florida, he said.

“Would you think to have 41 people shot [in Chicago] between Friday morning and Monday morning would be much more newsworthy and deserve much more outrage?” he asked...

The activists include Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Ben Jealous, head of the NAACP. Activists for the New Black Panthers and the Nation of Islam have also entered the fray.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/rev-al-sharpton-talk-violence-black-neighborhoods-article-1.292142

Rev. Al Sharpton: Let's talk about violence in black neighborhoods

The Rev. Al Sharpton is calling for a high-profile community summit to address black-on-black violence after Harlem was rocked by a wave of shootings over Memorial Day.

"Last year alone, nearly one black child a day under the age of 17 was shot and killed in New York City. Shot mostly by other black city residents," Sharpton said.

"Shootings and violence within our community by one of our own is an outrage and an issue that we must confront as diligently and as passionately as a sensational case of police misconduct or brutality."

All talk, no action, Al. The only reason he's commenting on these is because he thinks it could be a gold mine of untapped revenue he can put in his back pocket.

Um, the claim was that he didn't talk at all about black on black violence. When that was shown to be untrue, now the narrative shifts to "He's all talk, but no action."

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

First, the story of the cop killing the kid sounds pretty damn fishy to me. I realize we don't have all the information yet, but an unarmed kid?? Unless that police officer has some evidence that he was being attacked, and I mean serious evidence, he needs to go to jail for a long time.

Second, the people who are protesting have every right to be upset.

Third, the people who are looting are not protesters. The only agenda they have is to get free stuff. They are opportunists. Plain and simple. They get no pass from me for past injustices.

I just wish this kind of light was shined on the hundreds of African Americans gunned down every day in American cities. I can't help but feel like these killings don't fit into Al Sharpton's narrative, therefore, he doesn't care about them...

About your first point... Here in New Orleans we have mass shootings pretty frequently, 2-10, even 20 people shot at, hit, Bourbon Street, St. Charles at St. Andrew, Mother's Day second line shooting, Simon Bolivar, unfortunately it's too many. We have a problem with under-security. It seems hard to imagine how awful these things are and yet the populace does not do what the Ferguson people have done, which is riot and take random revenge blaming a whole class (business owners for some weird reason) for the actions of a few. It used to happen like a century ago but not now. And then we have things like the Danziger and Glover cases, but of course those happened during an extreme crisis, but still I think these things have happened in the past. Anyway here in NO where we have so much of this going both ways it's hard to wrap my head around a populace getting this excised about this event.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

At any rate - can someone give a good clear step by step factual summary of what the two sides claim actually happened? If there's a prior post on this, sorry, please link to it.

A lot of debating going on without a clear understanding or statement of underlying facts.

Thanks.

 

[Slapdash]

If you think people should have free reign to say dumb things for the sake of political finger-pointing without getting called out on it, perhaps the FFA is not for you.

Actually, I'm pretty sure it is. There is little more going on in most threads than this.

 

[urbanhack]

unfortunately the guy that tossed the first rock through a business window is a local hero.....and many of the people there were just waiting for it to "go off" so they could get some free ####....opportunist who if you walked into their home probably couldn't even tell you the name of the victim in this case while they played their new XBox game on their new TV....not sure why we are surprised by this and really have discussions about it....it's happened before, it's happening now, and it will happen again...to me this is the expected reaction in some situations and not really a surprise....it's not going to be any different next time......deal with it....

great summary!

 

[urbanhack]

Meatwad and TPW wondering "why don't these guys ever speak out against black on black crime?"

http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20131011/austin/al-sharpton-rent-west-side-apartment-highlight-gun-violence

 

[Quez]

Can someone sum up the current state here. I saw some of the looting videos a day ago, but are they still rioting? Is it only bat night, or going on all day? Getting any better?

 

[Slapdash]

Meatwad and TPW wondering "why don't these guys ever speak out against black on black crime?"

http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20131011/austin/al-sharpton-rent-west-side-apartment-highlight-gun-violence

To be fair, Drudge and Fox News didn't pick it up so how would they know?