Lopsided Trades (1 Viewer)

[BigSteelThrill]

Everyone pays to run their team how they want.

So if one guys just wants to help his buddy win, thats cool?

No, that is collusion. That is in effect that two distinct teams playing for one team to win.

But you dont "know" a g od d amn thing besides the trade is unbalanced.He can give a million excuses as to why he wanted to do the trade for other reasons.

 

[jwb]

But you dont "know" a g od d amn thing besides the trade is unbalanced.He can give a million excuses as to why he wanted to do the trade for other reasons.

But I would think that's the art of being a good commissioner. To tell the difference between, say, blowing up a team to rebuild it, and collusion.Things like trade deadlines help prevent collusion as well. One of the four leagues I'm in now has the commish approving every trade. I'm not really liking that aspect too much (I didn't realize that would be the case until after I took this team over.) I'm just not into "every trade must be balanced in a numbers aspect". Sometimes I'll trade for potential that perhaps only I believe in. As long as I'm not obviously insane (like trading Maroney and V Young for Wali Lundy or such), it should be allowed.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

But you dont "know" a g od d amn thing besides the trade is unbalanced.

He can give a million excuses as to why he wanted to do the trade for other reasons.

But I would think that's the art of being a good commissioner. To tell the difference between, say, blowing up a team to rebuild it, and collusion.Things like trade deadlines help prevent collusion as well.

One of the four leagues I'm in now has the commish approving every trade. I'm not really liking that aspect too much (I didn't realize that would be the case until after I took this team over.) I'm just not into "every trade must be balanced in a numbers aspect". Sometimes I'll trade for potential that perhaps only I believe in. As long as I'm not obviously insane (like trading Maroney and V Young for Wali Lundy or such), it should be allowed.

What?..."Why did you trade Frank gore to him for such a cheap price?"

"He's an injury waiting to happen. I wanted to get him off my team while he still had value and he was the first team to make a offer, so I took it."

You cant do anything about that happening over and over unless you stop lopsided trades.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Unless there is cheating going on, I allow all trades. I have never had a collusion issue in any of my leagues.

The only issues we have had is guppies getting fleeced. That seems to have worked itself out, as the owners have gotten much better/more experienced over the years.

As the owners have gotten better, my advantage from gathering information and staying up on things has shrunk. I now have to carefully stay on top of the Shark Pool topics during the pre-season, to get the diamonds in the rough. That is how I got Willie Parker a few years back. That is also how I grabbed EVERY surprise WR this past year (Colston, Cotchery, etc.). Of course I got taken to the cleaners on my trading of said WR's, since they were waiver pick-ups I didn't value them as well as I should have.

 

[jwb]

"Why did you trade Frank gore to him for such a cheap price?"

"He's an injury waiting to happen. I wanted to get him off my team while he still had value and he was the first team to make a offer, so I took it."

You cant do anything about that happening over and over unless you stop lopsided trades.

But who decides what's lopsided? "Over and over again" to the same team or two would be an obvious case of collusion. Then the commish steps in. Over and over again without regard to trading partner is simply a dumb owner. There is a difference.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

"Why did you trade Frank gore to him for such a cheap price?"

"He's an injury waiting to happen. I wanted to get him off my team while he still had value and he was the first team to make a offer, so I took it."

You cant do anything about that happening over and over unless you stop lopsided trades.

But who decides what's lopsided? "Over and over again" to the same team or two would be an obvious case of collusion. Then the commish steps in. Over and over again without regard to trading partner is simply a dumb owner. There is a difference.

I didnt say it was easy. But to not try is even worse. Your league mates have to decide.And collusion takes two to tango. What if its just one owner giving things away (for whatever reasons he wants) and the other owner is receiving them with no collusion, he just keeps accepting these gifts. He may not even be trying to do anything with the one partiuclar owner, he just keeps getting Gore for Daniel Graham every year. Or mayeb its a couple owners who get the reoccuring advatages.

It doesnt have to be collusion to have terrible effects upon a league. This thread is about lopsided trades.

 

[jwb]

What if its just one owner giving things away (for whatever reasons he wants) and the other owner is receiving them with no cullsion, he just keeps accepting these gifts. He may not even be trying to do anything with the one partiuclar owner, he just keeps getting Gore for Daniel Graham every year. Or mayeb its a couple owners who get the reoccuring advatages.

It doesnt have to be collusion to have terrible effects upon a league. This thread is about lopsided trades.

I understand what you are saying, but you are taking an extreme position here. This "lopsided trade" thread started with a few trades that the majority here thinks aren't lopsided at all. And the conscencious is pretty overwhelmingly "anything goes". However, it's not black and white. I'll bet that most who say "anything goes" mean that in the context of the discussion and what would constitute "normal" trading in a typical FF dynasty league.

The example you are giving, Gore for Daniel Graham, is indeed an extreme case that needs to be handled. I agree with you on that one. I don't think anyone here, even the "anything goes" group (of which I generally consider myself) would disagree that a trade like that should not be allowed.

This is where the "best interests of the league" commissioner powers come into play.