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Louis C.K…where does he rank as far as funniest stand-up comedians (or generally funny guy) of all time? (1 Viewer)

Right around Chris Rock, somewhere there. He's in that group of comedians that had a prime, when they were #1 all by themselves for a few years. Rock when those two specials hit back to back. Bill Burr now.

Solely as standup, I rank over Murphy and it's not close. I know that's a lonely opinion.

The creepy personal stuff? If you follow any of these people closely, almost all these comedians are really really ####ed up people. See: any of their podcasts

I’m with you on Murphy. He’s more personality than funny. I loved and revered him but if I’m honest his standup doesn’t hold up that well.
 
Off the top of my head...

Ricky Gervais, Wanda Sykes, Chris Rock, Louis CK, maybe Lewis Black and Michelle Wolf.

Weirdly don't know Bill Burr or Chappele's stuff.
 
Daniel Tosh is the most underrated comedian ever. And it’s a damn shame he got cancelled.

What was Tosh cancelled for? I honestly don't know. I'd guess for racial and sexist humor. Which is actually funny.

I know Tosh.0 was cancelled from the network. I’m guessing that is what he’s referencing.

I listen to a lot of stand-up albums on Spotify during my daily commute. His are hilarious.
 
Daniel Tosh is the most underrated comedian ever. And it’s a damn shame he got cancelled.

What was Tosh cancelled for? I honestly don't know. I'd guess for racial and sexist humor. Which is actually funny.
I vaguely remember he had a heckler (drunk or irate woman) who stood up during one of his shows and took offense to a bit he did- maybe rape? Whatever it was, he shot back at her and made a joke that was completely not PC, but hysterical. He took a lot of flak for it- then he decided to “retire”.

He would go so dark with his comedy, but no one made me laugh out loud as much as he did, watching his stand up. Just a brilliant comedic mind, with great timing.
 
I've only seen part of CK's standup and it was years ago. I thought he was funny, but I didn't see enough to get into his groove.

I don't know many of the newer comics, so my favorites are older.

Pryor is a no-doubt #1 for me.

Carlin, Redd Foxx, & Cosby would be next in some order.

Robin Williams is up there, too - though I had to be in the right mood for him. Same with Sarah Silverman.

Newhart, Murphy, Joan Rivers, Rock, Lewis Black......
 
The nature of his comedy makes it tough for me to silo the personal stuff. If he was doing a bunch of Jim Gaffigan bits that would be different. He had a bit about how ashamed he’d be after he masturbated, which I never understood. Makes a lot more sense now.

His show on FX was absolutely incredible and one of the best TV shows of the aughts, but I’ll never go back and rewatch.
Agreed.

I think for a comedian generally it's harder to separate the personal stuff. Stand-up comedy is a very personal thing and you're telling personal stories.

It's quite different from an athlete or an actor (who is by definition playing someone else).

And CK's style makes it even harder to separate than other comics.

And man it sucks. His show and the work was so phenomenal. Before this I wouldn't argue with someone putting him in the top 3. But now it would be difficult to watch.
 
Eddie, Richard Pryor, Sam Kinnison, Chappelle, Bill Burr, Rodney, Carlin, Dice, Robin Williams, Chris Rock
This would probably be my list as well if you bounced Dice (hickory dickory dock; your "comedy" sucks ****) and replaced him with Rickles.

Also, never found LCK particularly funny.
 
Daniel Tosh is the most underrated comedian ever. And it’s a damn shame he got cancelled.
I saw Tosh in November and it was a full crowd at a larger venue Segura did the same week (also packed crowd).
Tosh talked about his Tosh.0 ending and long story short, he still got paid for not having to do the show.
 
With all the names listed, I'm disappointed no one has mentioned Bargatze. I'm admittedly a huge fan and know that he's just not a big name still, but man ...
 
If the question is—“is he a top 25 comedian” of all time—it’s hard to say no. Dude can sell out Madison Square Garden without an issue. There probably hasn’t been too many comedians in history that could sell out big arenas—so clearly he’s big time. Now for me personally— his comedy is not my cup of tea. I wouldn’t put him in my top 25. There is a nice comedy renaissance going on right now. I‘d personally rank guys like Andrew Schulz, Theo von, Andrew Santino, Shane Gillis..etc ahead of him. Mix some of the new comedians with some of the classic ones, and some of the former SNL ones—I don’t think he makes my top 25.
 
Comedy is subjective but imo, there are not 25 people funnier than LCK.


Carlin
Dangerfield
Williams
Wright
Kennison
Pryor
Norm
Cosby
Rock
Newhart
Foxx
Hicks
Chappelle
Gervias
Martin
Rickles
Eddie
Greg Geraldo
Patrice
Burr
Gaffigan
Richard Jeni
Tosh
Seinfeld
Barr

Thats 25 and not all of them are better comedians than him.
 
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Daniel Tosh is the most underrated comedian ever. And it’s a damn shame he got cancelled.
I saw Tosh in November and it was a full crowd at a larger venue Segura did the same week (also packed crowd).
Tosh talked about his Tosh.0 ending and long story short, he still got paid for not having to do the show.
awesome! He still is doing shows? I heard he wasn’t touring, either.
 
Top 5 all-time for me.

Carlin, Kinison, Burr, Murphy, CK (and a ton of others at #6).

Carlin to me is the master, and went through several different stages, all of which resonated. I always liked his takes on language and words.

Kinison did not have a long career, and definitely relied on the screaming gimmick, but man, if you were there when he hit you never forgot it. His appearance on HBO's Young comedians special is legendary, and his first hour stand-up after that is all time for me, even if some of the gay stuff didn't age well.

Burr might be the best of the bunch over an entire hour, although I'm not liking his current act as much because I dislike "parent/kid" humor, and he's a somewhat-new parent so this is clearly resonating with him.

Murphy is one that I might prefer any one of ten people over these days, but again, in the early/mid-80's, starting with his legendary SNL characters, he was something else. Same thing with the bits on gays though - a little tough to take today although I did laugh at them in 80's.

CK is interesting - he always (oddly at the time) mixed in self-depreciating masturbation references, and now we know why. But some of his observations and bits just hit so hard.
 
Daniel Tosh is the most underrated comedian ever. And it’s a damn shame he got cancelled.
I saw Tosh in November and it was a full crowd at a larger venue Segura did the same week (also packed crowd).
Tosh talked about his Tosh.0 ending and long story short, he still got paid for not having to do the show.
awesome! He still is doing shows? I heard he wasn’t touring, either.
Tosh has a small tour going on now, but no, he's not touring really that much. I think he has a spot in Vegas (Mirage maybe?) that he goes to more often.
 
I just assume the vast majority of known people are ******** so I pay little attention to it. However, when it reaches the Cosby or Michael Jackson level it absolutely impacts my view on them. With CK, I still know very little about it. Absolutely sounds beyond inappropriate and "icky" but I'm guessing nothing that was deemed criminal? I tend to have cognitive dissonance on most of these types things and just tell myself I'll never know what happened and move on. He's apologized so obviously he knows he was wrong but he hasn't been blackballed/cancelled so I guess not too wrong. As you can see I'm on the fence whether it impacts my view of him - I will say when he makes cracks about it like "I've been away a while if you haven't noticed" I do cringe a little. I know comedians are known for joking about anything but in this case I would think it's not best to bring it up yourself - if asked, answer like a man and own it. Otherwise, move on and just be the funny dude that you are.

Top-25.
He was definitely "canceled." He disappeared for years and is still a pariah
I love that people think this. He’s playing MSG tonight (sold out and streaming live) and has a special coming out. I saw him last month and he killed. He’s as funny as he’s ever been.

He did something kind of brilliant, decided to distribute everything through his web site. His fans know where to find him and if everyone else thinks he’s “canceled”, cool, whatever. He put out a movie called Fourth of July with a bunch of no-name Boston theater actors, easily one of the best movies I saw last year.

I completely understand if people don’t connect with his comedy or are turned off by what he did. He’s always been hysterically funny to me and I’m glad he’s still out there working. I hope he does more movies or TV.
 
Damon Wayons was another guy who had killer stand-up back in the day. Saw his set live in maybe 89 or 90 at a smallish venue and it was absolutely hilarious. But his stand-up career was pretty short if memory serves.
 
Going to see Dave Atell next month. Looking forward to that.
Saw him at the Comedy Cellar in NYC with my daughter. Took a picture with him outside the show. Cool guy. Quiet.

Louis CK will not age well in all time lists. He’s probably in that 25-50 tier now and will slip. Nowhere close to the all-time greats. I like many already cited and so many more than this guy (seems half his jokes are about masturbating which he obviously wasn’t making up). Doug Stanhope is brilliant as an example. Definitely dark and twisted, but brilliant. Towers over this guy.
 
Here is a list from Rolling Stone put together in 2017. Some good old school names included there that haven't been mentioned yet. CK sits at #4 on this list. I wouldn't have him that high, but probably in the top 25. And, yes, the creep factor takes a little of the shine away for me.

I am not a fan of this list to put it mildly.
That is such a terrible ranking. Louis CK at #4 and Joan Rivers at #6 is all you need to know
 
Here is a list from Rolling Stone put together in 2017. Some good old school names included there that haven't been mentioned yet. CK sits at #4 on this list. I wouldn't have him that high, but probably in the top 25. And, yes, the creep factor takes a little of the shine away for me.

I am not a fan of this list to put it mildly.
That is such a terrible ranking. Louis CK at #4 and Joan Rivers at #6 is all you need to know
While I wouldn’t have Joan Rivers anywhere near 6–she was low key hysterical. If you asked most comedians about her—they would almost unanimously concede that she was a beast comedically. I think that a lot of people are surprised to see her on lists like this because most people viewed her as being a general “Television Personality” more than they considered her as being a true comedian.
 
Going to see Dave Atell next month. Looking forward to that.
man—I remember seeing him perform live when I was in college and he had that super late night show where he’d basically get smash drunk every episode. He was amazingly funny. My understanding is that he’s either sober or has really cut back on his drinking since then. I‘d be curious to hear your feedback on how his comedy is nowadays. Would love it if you would update this post after you see him.
 
I thought he was very funny, but I haven't seen him in so long I don't really know how it held up. And most of these guys lose their fastballs as they get older too, but at his peak (ba da buh) he was up there.
I think his more recent stuff is much better than prior. Say the last 5-10 years.
Honestly the stuff since he was "cancelled" is his best yet
 
Daniel Tosh is the most underrated comedian ever. And it’s a damn shame he got cancelled.

What was Tosh cancelled for? I honestly don't know. I'd guess for racial and sexist humor. Which is actually funny.

I know Tosh.0 was cancelled from the network. I’m guessing that is what he’s referencing.

I listen to a lot of stand-up albums on Spotify during my daily commute. His are hilarious.
Never really liked that show is his stand-up mostly the same shtick?
 
The one time I saw Louis CK live several years back it was part of a show with a bunch of different comics. I found him and Aziz underwhelming while Hannibal Buress was hilarious. Liked his show (Louie) and standup I've seen in the past, but haven't watched anything of his since the news came out.
 
Right around Chris Rock, somewhere there. He's in that group of comedians that had a prime, when they were #1 all by themselves for a few years. Rock when those two specials hit back to back. Bill Burr now.

Solely as standup, I rank over Murphy and it's not close. I know that's a lonely opinion.

The creepy personal stuff? If you follow any of these people closely, almost all these comedians are really really ####ed up people. See: any of their podcasts

I’m with you on Murphy. He’s more personality than funny. I loved and revered him but if I’m honest his standup doesn’t hold up that well.
It seems like a lot of standup doesn't hold up. Part could be our ages - everyone here is 48, so we saw Delirious and Bad in junior high; part is likely societal changes/progress; part is just that we can't rewind and make it the first time we hear a joke again.
 
Right around Chris Rock, somewhere there. He's in that group of comedians that had a prime, when they were #1 all by themselves for a few years. Rock when those two specials hit back to back. Bill Burr now.

Solely as standup, I rank over Murphy and it's not close. I know that's a lonely opinion.

The creepy personal stuff? If you follow any of these people closely, almost all these comedians are really really ####ed up people. See: any of their podcasts

I’m with you on Murphy. He’s more personality than funny. I loved and revered him but if I’m honest his standup doesn’t hold up that well.
It seems like a lot of standup doesn't hold up. Part could be our ages - everyone here is 48, so we saw Delirious and Bad in junior high; part is likely societal changes/progress; part is just that we can't rewind and make it the first time we hear a joke again.
Some of it that SHOULDNT hold up for those reasons get funnier by the year for me. Example Sam Kinnison.

I can't even imagine how much material some of the older/passed on guys would have with today's WOKE nonsense. Sam, Rodney, Hicks, Carlin. I have a feeling those guys would not hold back, and if anything double down even more than Chapelle has.
 
For some of you saying not in your top 25 or just inside your top 25, geeze, what is your top 25??

I’m not going to spend the time to do a full blown ranking, but just off the top of my head, I’d rank the following higher (not in order): Murphy, Chappelle, Pryor, Carlin, Rock, May, Koy, Burr, Mulaney, Glaser, Kinison, Dangerfield, Hedberg, Burress, Cosby (if we’re ignoring history), Jeselnik. Might be a couple others I’m missing. So maybe inside my Top 20.
Great list. I'd add Patrice O'Neal
 
Daniel Tosh is the most underrated comedian ever. And it’s a damn shame he got cancelled.

What was Tosh cancelled for? I honestly don't know. I'd guess for racial and sexist humor. Which is actually funny.

I know Tosh.0 was cancelled from the network. I’m guessing that is what he’s referencing.

I listen to a lot of stand-up albums on Spotify during my daily commute. His are hilarious.
Never really liked that show is his stand-up mostly the same shtick?

Definitely a similar delivery and extremely irreverent material.
 
Going to see Dave Atell next month. Looking forward to that.
Saw him at the Comedy Cellar in NYC with my daughter. Took a picture with him outside the show. Cool guy. Quiet.

Louis CK will not age well in all time lists. He’s probably in that 25-50 tier now and will slip. Nowhere close to the all-time greats. I like many already cited and so many more than this guy (seems half his jokes are about masturbating which he obviously wasn’t making up). Doug Stanhope is brilliant as an example. Definitely dark and twisted, but brilliant. Towers over this guy.
Love Stanhope. Someone said earlier in the thread that a lot of comedians are messed up people. Stanhope acknowledges this and makes it part of his act, which is one reason I like him so much. Frankly I'm surprised he's still alive given all the crazy **** he's done.
 
For some of you saying not in your top 25 or just inside your top 25, geeze, what is your top 25??

I’m not going to spend the time to do a full blown ranking, but just off the top of my head, I’d rank the following higher (not in order): Murphy, Chappelle, Pryor, Carlin, Rock, May, Koy, Burr, Mulaney, Glaser, Kinison, Dangerfield, Hedberg, Burress, Cosby (if we’re ignoring history), Jeselnik. Might be a couple others I’m missing. So maybe inside my Top 20.
Great list. I'd add Patrice O'Neal
agree on Patrice. Off of the top of my head—for me personally—I’d add Bill Maher, Jon Stewart, Norm MacDonald, and even Mitch Hedberg. Mitch‘s comedy probably wasn’t for everybody—but I just found his delivery and simplicity to be very unique and brilliant for the dynamic he was portraying.
 
For some of you saying not in your top 25 or just inside your top 25, geeze, what is your top 25??
I never sat down and ranked comedians, but if we’re talking all time, I don’t think it’s so odd not to have him in the Top 25. I’m not sure I would, but do find him funny.

I have no problem separating the artist from the art - but do under that’s a bit harder to do when it’s just a guy on stage telling his “stories”. With that said if he had a new Netflix special, I’d likely watch it.
 

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