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Even if he is a complete bust for this season, I am keeping him in my dynasty league. He showed he has the talent to succeed last year. One of the FBG staffers pointed out that what he achieved puts him with some very talented backs. I wouldn't give up on him after one bad year (let alone, two bad games).
If he fails this year because of his circumstances, I expect them to improve with Del Rio and Koetter getting fired. And one more year for Fred Taylor should mean more opportunities for MJD.
Definite keeper for the long term. Hopefully you can survive through this year if it turns out rough.
If he fails this year because of his circumstances, I expect them to improve with Del Rio and Koetter getting fired. And one more year for Fred Taylor should mean more opportunities for MJD.
Definite keeper for the long term. Hopefully you can survive through this year if it turns out rough.
glvsav37
Footballguy
thanks...I'd be getting MJD....my season is pretty much in the crapper this year as I traded away everything last year to win bac2back championships. I went inot the draft w/ 2 picks in the first 5 rds. Hence the reason I kinda blew the research off this year and went with what was avaible.
Jersey35
Footballguy
Huh?The Colts actually having a defense may hamper his prospects. He did about half (seemingly) his production last year in those two games.But, short of a slam dunk offer, I would hold.
As an MJD owner, I would encourage you to get him ONLY if you are in a keeper or dynasty league AND/OR you do not intend to rely on him as a starter this year. He sits happily on my dynasty roster as my 4/5 RB and won't ever likely see MY field until he proves to be the starter. I'm very high on his upside, but not necessarily for this season.
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I think his value is rock bottom.
People are completely unsure about this guy ATM. They don't know if this guy is a one year wonder or what.
Long term it's slightly better because you're hoping that Fred Taylor will eventually go somewhere else and this guy will have the chance to become 3 down back.
If you happen to believe in this guy, now is the time to get him. That's the question though.
People are completely unsure about this guy ATM. They don't know if this guy is a one year wonder or what.
Long term it's slightly better because you're hoping that Fred Taylor will eventually go somewhere else and this guy will have the chance to become 3 down back.
If you happen to believe in this guy, now is the time to get him. That's the question though.
glvsav37
Footballguy
yea...its a keeper league, kinda: 2 players. My season is shot (as said above) so i am not going to really 'need' him until next year. Basically the deal is Giving: SJax and a 3rd Rd Getting: a 1st rd and MJDI need to give up the 3rd b/c I already dealt somoene for a 2nd rd, and b/c of my league rules, we weight the rounds, mathimatically, I'd need to give up the 3 to get the 1st. then MJD would be one of my keepers going into next year at a cost to me of somewhere around a 11th rd . Rule is that I loose the round +2 of where he was kept the year before....so basically he was kpt this year as a 13, so I could keep him at an 11 next season, then a 9, then a 7...etc. So his long term value is the key to this deal.Huh?The Colts actually having a defense may hamper his prospects. He did about half (seemingly) his production last year in those two games.But, short of a slam dunk offer, I would hold.
As an MJD owner, I would encourage you to get him ONLY if you are in a keeper or dynasty league AND/OR you do not intend to rely on him as a starter this year. He sits happily on my dynasty roster as my 4/5 RB and won't ever likely see MY field until he proves to be the starter. I'm very high on his upside, but not necessarily for this season.
switz
Footballguy
Don't go chasing last year's points.
thecardiackid
Footballguy
I agree w/ this.MJD will come around this year and produce, though not @ last year's pace. Too many problems and changes in JAX. In a re-draft I'd stay away.Long term I can't think of many RB2s (on their team) that I'd rather have in a keeper/dyansty - waiting for a fragile, older guy to gracefully retire. While there's not a guarantee he turns into a 25 carry a game RB1, he looks to be a talented guy in a good spot (sort of like M Turner if LT was ready to hang it up).Concerns are the pending coaching change (IMO) in JAX = who / what type of system comes in?Garrard will continue to improve, but he WR problems are not helping the run game.O line looks worse than last season, and the defense isn't playing as well either.Fred signed a 2/3 year deal IIRC, but I can't see him playing 3 - especially if they end up 4-12.They need to develop (or trade for) a REAL WR1 to take some pressure off the run game.I took him in the 2nd round of a dynasty draft - backing up Addai - KNOWING I'd be waiting a year or two before he becomes a dependable factor. At this point you need another RB2 w/ MJD until things improve and that could be a year or two.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
the only league that i own him in is a 5-player keeper league (i kept him cheaply). keeping him was simply to capitalize on his long-term prospects with the hopes that i wouldn't have to rely on him this season.
it's still a bit early to tell what his long-term keeper value really is, but i think it'll be pretty high.
based on the evidence, MJD's keeper value should be just as high as reggie bush's (based MJD's ability to actually break a tackle and get short-yardage TDs)
for what it's worth, the jags are trying to hitch their wagon to MJDs star potential. he is already their biggest jersey seller and has his own blog on jaguars.com. the jags could really use a star that draws fans and i have a feeling they see MJD to be just that. i think that's important b/c it means the jags will give MJD every opportunity, at some point, to carry the load.
whether he can carry the load is another question. he never carried the ball more than 186 times at UCLA, but, to my knowledge, there's no evidence that he can't, he's just never had the opportunity because of his height. (not his size. he's not really a small RB, just a short one.)
his long term potential would seem to me to be something like a warrick dunn-type, except he's demonstrated power and the ability be a successful goal-line back. that upside is pretty enticing.
my guess is that, next season MJD will get a heavier load (15-20 carries/game), but with freddy (or someone else) taking a significant portion of carries. MJD with 15-20 carries, the goal-line carries, and a bunch of receptions could be quite valuable.
(note: i'm a jags fan and wear my teal #32 jersey to the sports bar every sunday. i'm trying as best i can to temper my expectations. i really want to say that MJD will be much better than reggie bush and will be more like a brian westbrook with alot more power, but i'm trying to be objective)
it's still a bit early to tell what his long-term keeper value really is, but i think it'll be pretty high.
based on the evidence, MJD's keeper value should be just as high as reggie bush's (based MJD's ability to actually break a tackle and get short-yardage TDs)
for what it's worth, the jags are trying to hitch their wagon to MJDs star potential. he is already their biggest jersey seller and has his own blog on jaguars.com. the jags could really use a star that draws fans and i have a feeling they see MJD to be just that. i think that's important b/c it means the jags will give MJD every opportunity, at some point, to carry the load.
whether he can carry the load is another question. he never carried the ball more than 186 times at UCLA, but, to my knowledge, there's no evidence that he can't, he's just never had the opportunity because of his height. (not his size. he's not really a small RB, just a short one.)
his long term potential would seem to me to be something like a warrick dunn-type, except he's demonstrated power and the ability be a successful goal-line back. that upside is pretty enticing.
my guess is that, next season MJD will get a heavier load (15-20 carries/game), but with freddy (or someone else) taking a significant portion of carries. MJD with 15-20 carries, the goal-line carries, and a bunch of receptions could be quite valuable.
(note: i'm a jags fan and wear my teal #32 jersey to the sports bar every sunday. i'm trying as best i can to temper my expectations. i really want to say that MJD will be much better than reggie bush and will be more like a brian westbrook with alot more power, but i'm trying to be objective)
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So drop LT. Got it.Don't go chasing last year's points.
Someone said you should drop MJD? Get it.So drop LT. Got it.Don't go chasing last year's points.
Someone said don't chase last year's points. By that logic, SJax, LT and LJ are all busts this year. Sarcastic reply follows.SayWhat? said:Someone said you should drop MJD? Get it.NOONAN said:So drop LT. Got it.switz said:tppt said:
gman8343
What would Lemmy do?
I don't think that's what they were saying at all. Every player's situation is different, and a couple of guys think that MJD had a fluke year and won't be as productive. They never mentioned anyone else's situation, merely this one. To apply that "logic" to guys like LT and SJax is beyond faulty IMO.Someone said don't chase last year's points. By that logic, SJax, LT and LJ are all busts this year. Sarcastic reply follows.SayWhat? said:Someone said you should drop MJD? Get it.NOONAN said:So drop LT. Got it.switz said:tppt said:
Gopher State
Footballguy
Veryswitz said:tppt said:
I agree as MJD has had so few carries how can you really judge him, I say the odds are 50/50 that he could be a bust. IMO stay away from him.BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Hoping MJD doesnt do much vs Denver and then Im going after him in each league I'm in.
You missed the sarcastic part.I'm just pointing out the faulty logic in the phrase "don't chase last year's points" which sort of implies that this year's points are all that matters. On a broader scale, many players are busts this year under that logic. That is all.I don't think that's what they were saying at all. Every player's situation is different, and a couple of guys think that MJD had a fluke year and won't be as productive. They never mentioned anyone else's situation, merely this one. To apply that "logic" to guys like LT and SJax is beyond faulty IMO.Someone said don't chase last year's points. By that logic, SJax, LT and LJ are all busts this year. Sarcastic reply follows.SayWhat? said:Someone said you should drop MJD? Get it.NOONAN said:So drop LT. Got it.switz said:tppt said:Don't go chasing last year's points.
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SSOG
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Denver's run defense isn't looking very good so far. Maybe it's not as much of a sharky move as you might hope. I could easily see him going for 100+ yards and a couple of scores and burning everyone who decided to wait one more week.:sharkmove:
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
No choice. No teams in my leagues are moving him as of yet. One more bad week though...Denver's run defense isn't looking very good so far. Maybe it's not as much of a sharky move as you might hope. I could easily see him going for 100+ yards and a couple of scores and burning everyone who decided to wait one more week.:sharkmove:
He's already on my keeper roster and isn't going anywhere.Denver's run defense isn't looking very good so far. Maybe it's not as much of a sharky move as you might hope. I could easily see him going for 100+ yards and a couple of scores and burning everyone who decided to wait one more week.:sharkmove:
