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Herculaneum is worth a visit too, though not as massive as Pompeii.If anyone wants to do a day tour of the Amalfi Coast, Rick Steves has arranged a group share, as it were. We did it and is was fantastic. Great driver. Saw Positano, Ravello and Amalfi. Leaves from downtown Sorrento.
https://www.sharedtours.com/
As for Pompeii, I will reiterate that we spent 5 hours, I believe, and could have spent more. Wife and I loved just walking the less crowded alleys and around the walls and seeing it all, and we did not even see it all.
Chemical X said:Alitalia special, book by 9/28, fly jfk-mxp for 700pp rt thru may 2017.
it's true. public toilets can be pay and may not have seats, much less paper. beach toilets are literally holes in the floor. use the bidet if you have that unfresh feeling.Italyguys. What's the lowdown on toilet paper? I heard they use weak, rough, 1-ply stuff. How did you deal with this issue?
bus or train? post is confusing....@Chemical X im headed to Italy for a month mar 21- apr 25 , ill be backpacking around the country so probably 6-9 cities
im assuming bus will ne the best way for me to get around so what would be the best train pass to buy?
thanks
sorry typed bus instead of trainChemical X said:bus or train? post is confusing....
as an fyi, italy has no national bus system. best and closest from what i recall is the baltour.it network. italy pass is a fixed price thing that gets you unlimited Km, but no idea how it works, where it goes at all. train is a better option in italy by far.
ahh....I don't necessarily think a trenitalia pass will be a cost savings over buying a ticket on spot. have you looked at some costs for your point to point travel? i.e. pick 1-2 trips you thin you will take and price them out. fyi - you may to price hypothetically in the next 7 days for a range, as unreserved seating doesn't book in advance. also, I think there is a 60 day booking limit as well. trenitalia.com or it is the site, it stinks, but try it out and report back.waiver wire said:@Chemical X im headed to Italy for a month mar 21- apr 25 , ill be backpacking around the country so probably 6-9 cities
im assuming bus will ne the best way for me to get around so what would be the best train pass to buy?
thanks
k thanks that's a start ill look at that site over the weekend to get a rough idea and get back to youahh....I don't necessarily think a trenitalia pass will be a cost savings over buying a ticket on spot. have you looked at some costs for your point to point travel? i.e. pick 1-2 trips you thin you will take and price them out. fyi - you may to price hypothetically in the next 7 days for a range, as unreserved seating doesn't book in advance. also, I think there is a 60 day booking limit as well. trenitalia.com or it is the site, it stinks, but try it out and report back.
update?my trip is a few days away![]()
you would think since this a bucket list trip , I would be super excited but have so much crap going on in my life but done very little to prepare
ive got a rough route picked out
mar 21 arrive in rome
22-26 rome
27-29 siena
30-2 Florence I could knock off a day here but on the 2nd there is a soccer game
apr 3-4 lucca --will stop at pisa on they way here
5-7 la spezia to explore cinque terre
8-10 turin Juventus plays on the 9 so its a must for me
11-13 milan
14-15 lake como as I have friends here
16-18 venice
19-23 naples (day trip to Pompeii)
24 rome fly out
a room booked in rome , a Sistine chapel tour booked and the Juventus ticket bought and that is it for my preparation
if anyone has some restaurants or other tips for those cities , I would be love to hear them
thanks
Spit balling a trip in July too. The wife's never been. Thinking Rome for a few days and then the amalfi coast.update?
also, a bump here to say i'll be heading back 7/6 and will be in umbria, rome, Florence and paris. just in case someone needs a suggestion or something.
Tell me a bit more about Lucca. We will be there for two nights, early July.I'm sitting in La spezzia right now , spent a 1/2 day in portovenere.
so far
rome which I thought I would love but found it ok. don't get me wrong, lots to see which I liked but just didn't knock my socks off
sienna was nice , really surprised me on how much I liked it
Florence , lots to do and see , very walkable as well
lucca was quaint , was a nice way to have a down day
next 2 days are cinque terre
best preserved walled city around. people rent bikes and bike around the top of wall, picnic lunch, Etc. close to Pisa by train.Tell me a bit more about Lucca. We will be there for two nights, early July.
I just picked up some Italo tickets for Termini > Firenze...........they are running some decent train specials fyi.Three #######n weeks away and ready to roll. Thanks for all of your help in the past year helping me plan my trip.
Please make sure wife videos for sharing.I just picked up some Italo tickets for Termini > Firenze...........they are running some decent train specials fyi.
I am under 30 days from travelling and spending 4 nites in Paris. This is the first time I actually have a bit of concern. Me and my wife have a deal for when we sit outside........we look over each others' shoulder and promise to jump on the other if we see something coming our way. I am bigger than she is and worried she wont cover me totally.
My itinerary;
-Thursday arrive 7/6 paris and xfer to Florence. rent car (also renting wifi key from autoeuropa). drive to house. meet my HVAC guy at 4p for boiler clean/inspection.
-Friday, go to local olive oil cooperative and likely drive to ancona for wife's job, they will pay all expenses, including meals for this day. hang at beach a bit.
-Saturday, wife skydive. I dial 9-1...........add a 1 if chute doesn't deploy.
-Sunday, local beach on Lake Trasimeno.
-Monday, lunch at local winery avignonesi. evening at umbria jazz seeing dee dee bridgewater.
-Tuesday, visit vignabaldo winery, evening and dinner in siena.
-Wednesday, visit local farmers market, then visit icario winery, then hit mailboxes etc to ship back wine/oil.
-Thursday, leave house and drop car at FCO. cab to rome hotel. hang and hit favorite restaurant la fraschetta del castel sant angelo.
-Friday, high speed italo train from Rome > Florence. hang. baldovino dinner, gelato around santa croce.
-Saturday, 10.30a tours with locals private guide of farmers markets, tastings of everything. leave us at eataly for lunch. dinner ristorante academia (bistecca all fiorentina).
-Sunday, fly to CDG. meet TwL guide at 6p for 1.5h walk and leave us at Bonvivant for dinner.
-Monday, 11a TwL 3 hr tour of main monuments. leave us at Eiffel for 3p tour and 2nd floor access. maybe summit and champagne if lines are reasonable.
-Tuesday, 11a TwL 2 hr tour of Notre Dame, ile de la cite. pretend I am Quasimodo, scream "the bells". leave us at quai for seine cruise.
-Wednesday, 11 TwL 2.5hr tour of Louvre. dinner at Paul Bert for steak frites.
-Thursday, fin.......
I drove around Tuscany and had little problems except for downtown Florence. The scooters weaving around the car within inches were the bigger concern than the stop lights.We're renting a car for the Tuscany portion.
My first trip to Italy, we went from Venice to Florence to Rome, driving a stick, with no GPS. I spent about 20 minutes back home learning to drive a manual car with a friend before the trip.We're renting a car for the Tuscany portion.
not my wheelhouse, but my Albanian buddy in italy swears by Sardinia. if you are adventurous.We're starting to consider going back next year for our 7th trip to Italy. One of our previous trips was on Capri, so we really only got to see Amalfi on a couple of day trips. Considering staying there and maybe heading southeast into the Puglia region. We're really into cities so I'm just not sure if that would be enough for us, although we might spend a day or two in Rome again to start off. Anyone familiar with the southeastern part of Italy?
those other areas besides florence i am not familiar with.....are they west?Any must visit wineries? Really want to buy a case of something and have it shipped home.
What about truffle hunting? Some of the hotel tours are super expensive. Is it worth it? Are the cheaper ones I've found online just as good?
i have hit 1 traffic light in all my driving in italy....chiusi. no reason to drive in the big cities, plus they fine you in the ZDA....ZMA? AutoEuropa not autoeurope, has automatics available. we grab a little Fiat 500. worth the peace of mind, plus they now rent WiFi keys and ezpass (telepass).We're renting a car for the Tuscany portion.
give me a city reference......my neck of the Woods.South of Florence
oooh, panzano. Dario Cecchini's butcher shop/bistecca grill room is there and a must do.Between Panzano and Certaldo?
Just as long as you know you can't drive in Florence proper...We're renting a car for the Tuscany portion.
Thanks to all of you, we are not renting a car. Trains all the way!Just as long as you know you can't drive in Florence proper...
Amalfi is outside my knowledge base, but end of july - august is stifling hot and virtually all Italians take their own holiday. Beaches will be crowded, but some city/town things will be closed. Just an fyi.....Kicking around the idea of doing Rome and the amalfi coast, probably ravello, with the lady. End of July, maybe August. Tourist time, but it's when we can go. Anyone Have amalfi coast recommendations?
You are correct. But it's when we can go. I've been to amalfi before and it's pretty temperate due to being on the water. Beaches aren't our main thing, so the crowds there will be more of an adventure than a necessary evil. We like to explore, enjoy little cafes, hike and wander. We want to hike this trail.Amalfi is outside my knowledge base, but end of july - august is stifling hot and virtually all Italians take their own holiday. Beaches will be crowded, but some city/town things will be closed. Just an fyi.....
Positano is awesome. Easy ferry to Capri, bus to Amalfi and Ravello, etc. The lady will love the view. We loved it (and we have our youngest son to prove it).Kicking around the idea of doing Rome and the amalfi coast, probably ravello, with the lady. End of July, maybe August. Tourist time, but it's when we can go. Anyone Have amalfi coast recommendations?
We went to Naples for a day trip while staying in Capri. It was a Sunday so I figured it would be less hectic. We walked around for about an hour, went to the south side by the castle and had some lunch and went back to Capri. I would go back for the archaeology museum, which we didn't get to, but for no other reason.I have always referred to Naples as the Newark, NJ of Italy.