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badmojo1006 said:
Officer Pete Malloy said:
badmojo1006 said:
I'm confused. Where did Ken go?
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Ken just be became a Bond villain mother ####ers.
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I am really ambivalent about this. Yeah, he got his revenge, but I always thought Ken as one of the good guys and that he would leave the advertising world and write his book.
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There isn't much time to advance this, but it's a nice twist on the dynamics that we haven't really seen yet. Plus, has Mad Men ever given us a "happy" resolution to a character?
 
Officer Pete Malloy said:
BTW. this episode probably took place April 1970 (Nixon's speech)
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Hmm.

Raider Nation said:
* Given the time of season (no one is dressed for winter), the long (and very Smothers Brothers-esque) mustaches grown by Roger and Teddy, and the introduction of L'Eggs to the market, we're in spring of 1970. The Nixon speech Don watches on TV was delivered on April 30 of that year, though if Don is really confused about time like Diana suggests, maybe we can't trust anything, date-wise, presented from his point of view. On the one hand, it's a bit surprising the show would decline a chance to do a New Year's Eve 1969 episode; on the other, once man walks on the moon, you may as well jump to the next decade. I do wonder if making it out of the '60s will unshackle the show from its usual month-to-month episode structure — though Weiner insists "our rules are quite flexible" — and start taking us deeper into the '70s (or even '80s), or if the plan is for the show to end before "All in the Family," Watergate, disco and everything else.
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The 1970 timeline of this episode puts to rest one of the big theories that Megan would be a victim of the Manson Family murders.

That happened in August of 1969.

 
pantherclub said:
I am not afraid to admit that I had absolutely no idea what anything in that episode is about. Totally confused.
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This show does not lend itself well to long breaks, and expects a viewer to really know what happened in the past, no matter how small the detail (like that Ken briefly worked at McCann. My wife also asked "who exactly is Rachel again?")

That said, it's more like real life than any show I can recall. Nothing happens, yet everything happens. And everyone's past, even minor things, is a part of them.

 
Sepinwall's review is better that the episode itself.

I was slightly underwhelmed by this latest installment. ( Maybe it will get better when viewed as a part of the whole 7 episode run).

The sexism scene was a little too on the nose, although we do see Peggy's resentment that Joan is a millionaire basically because she slept with a client,while Peggy has worked her ### off and been a valuable asset and was not nearly as well compensated.

 
Rove! said:
Sepinwall's review is better that the episode itself.

I was slightly underwhelmed by this latest installment. ( Maybe it will get better when viewed as a part of the whole 7 episode run).

The sexism scene was a little too on the nose, although we do see Peggy's resentment that Joan is a millionaire basically because she slept with a client,while Peggy has worked her ### off and been a valuable asset and was not nearly as well compensated.
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Until she eventually sells that Upper West Side building while Joan is spending her money on clothes.

 
All kinds of dream and death imagery and talk. That has to mean something. Don has had visions of dead people before but they seem to be happening more frequently now. Wonder what that could mean. The first scene of the episode was a complete misdirect which has me wondering if anything we're seeing now can really be trusted.

 
Raider Nation said:
As good as this show is, it doesn't seem eminently rewatchable like, say, The Sopranos or The Wire. Will folks actually be watching episodes of Mad Men multiple times five, ten years from now?
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I will. During the break I went back and watched a lot of the old episodes again. I still love watching the first episode and the Season 3 finale is absolutely brilliant. I'll never tire of watching that. I also watched a lot of this season's first-half episodes. I loved Waterloo and there were so many great scenes in others like Don and Peggy dancing and Don and Sally bonding at the diner.

 
Where is the "recap" in this? Seems review-ish to me.

Those occasional moments when Peggy and Joan are friendly with each other are wonderful, but they have the power that they do because they're so rare, while the rest of the series acknowledges that these two are too different to really get along, no matter how much we might want them to. That scene in the elevator, with Peggy blaming the victim and Joan essentially saying Peggy's not attractive enough to be harassed in the same way, was ugly and uncomfortable, but it's also about how I would expect each of them to react to the situation. And it was the best scene of the hour. The exact nature of sexism at the workplace is changing along with their respective positions in the agency, but the sum total of it is so awful that they can't even find common ground over it.
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Raider Nation said:
Officer Pete Malloy said:
Raider Nation said:
Lots of people make fun of Sepinwall. None of them can write a better review. Weird.
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Come on.
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I'm not talking about the pros. AV Club and others are very good. But it only seems logical that you people who constantly hammer him should be able to come up with something better on your own.
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I'm sure Sepinwal gives negative reviews now and then. Do you think he should refrain from doing that unless he can write a better screenplay?

 
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