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As for whether Joan kept the baby, I thought that last conversation with Roger made the answer obvious: "Life goes on."
Surprised this wasn't as obvious to the rest of you.
Hindsight is 20/20. I stated there was a 50/50 shot she kept the baby, but the show did not make it obvious that Joan kept the baby. It was implied, it was eluded to. But there was no definitive statement.
IMO, the dialogue made it obvious enough that she kept the baby, that if she hadn't kept the baby it would have been a Lost-esque twist, and this show is better than that. Was there even one clue that she went through with the abortion?
 
RudiStein said:
TenTimes said:
gump said:
I thought he was seeing her addiction (and pain) in it, and decided to literally quit smoking.
Did Don quit smoking? Come to think of it, I can't remember seeing him light up since that letter, but I have a bad memory.
No. He even admitted to the cancer society people that he was a smoker.
This this the part I don't understand. If he still smokes, the the ad in the NYT just seems stupid. The dialog where the ACS's board admits to being 50% smoker is supposed to mitigate Don's hypocrisy but it really does not. Why would any client think a guy who still smokes would dump such a lucrative client such as big tobacco? Don's the face of the agency.
 
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RudiStein said:
TenTimes said:
gump said:
I thought he was seeing her addiction (and pain) in it, and decided to literally quit smoking.
Did Don quit smoking? Come to think of it, I can't remember seeing him light up since that letter, but I have a bad memory.
No. He even admitted to the cancer society people that he was a smoker.
This this the part I don't understand. If he still smokes, the the ad in the NYT just seems stupid. The dialog where the ACS's board admits to being 50% smoker is supposed to mitigate Don's hypocrisy but it really does not. Why would any client think a guy who still smokes would dump such a lucrative client such as big tobacco? Don's the face of the agency.
If I remember right, some of the ACS board said they still smoked.
 
I thought he was seeing her addiction (and pain) in it, and decided to literally quit smoking.
Did Don quit smoking? Come to think of it, I can't remember seeing him light up since that letter, but I have a bad memory.
Good question...I just rewound the finale. We only see him smoking once, and it's brief...as he's walking into the diner to meet Megan and the kids in Cali. That's the only time.
 
I thought he was seeing her addiction (and pain) in it, and decided to literally quit smoking.
Did Don quit smoking? Come to think of it, I can't remember seeing him light up since that letter, but I have a bad memory.
No. He even admitted to the cancer society people that he was a smoker.
This this the part I don't understand. If he still smokes, the the ad in the NYT just seems stupid. The dialog where the ACS's board admits to being 50% smoker is supposed to mitigate Don's hypocrisy but it really does not. Why would any client think a guy who still smokes would dump such a lucrative client such as big tobacco? Don's the face of the agency.
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As for whether Joan kept the baby, I thought that last conversation with Roger made the answer obvious: "Life goes on."
Surprised this wasn't as obvious to the rest of you.
Hindsight is 20/20. I stated there was a 50/50 shot she kept the baby, but the show did not make it obvious that Joan kept the baby. It was implied, it was eluded to. But there was no definitive statement.
IMO, the dialogue made it obvious enough that she kept the baby, that if she hadn't kept the baby it would have been a Lost-esque twist, and this show is better than that. Was there even one clue that she went through with the abortion?
I know we're arguing semantics here. But the simple fact is that the door was open either way. You're making it sound like people totally missed the boat. They didn't. Simply put, the show hinted that she could have kept the baby - it certainly did not make it obvious she kept the baby.
 
Just a heads-up, for those that fast forward through the commercials, next week AMC will be starting The Walking Dead which looks to be very good. Maybe that may help with any sort of blues you might have about not having Mad Men on.

 
Just a heads-up, for those that fast forward through the commercials, next week AMC will be starting The Walking Dead which looks to be very good. Maybe that may help with any sort of blues you might have about not having Mad Men on.
Isn't that some sort of zombie show? :scared:
 
Just a heads-up, for those that fast forward through the commercials, next week AMC will be starting The Walking Dead which looks to be very good. Maybe that may help with any sort of blues you might have about not having Mad Men on.
Isn't that some sort of zombie show? :shrug:
Oh look, a diverse group of 20-something 14CCP's tries to escape from zombies...and in the process learn something...about themselves.
 
Just a heads-up, for those that fast forward through the commercials, next week AMC will be starting The Walking Dead which looks to be very good. Maybe that may help with any sort of blues you might have about not having Mad Men on.
Isn't that some sort of zombie show? :shrug:
Yes. I know it is a very different concept than Mad Men but I thought I would throw it out there for those that have nothing better to watch on Sundays.
 
Just a heads-up, for those that fast forward through the commercials, next week AMC will be starting The Walking Dead which looks to be very good. Maybe that may help with any sort of blues you might have about not having Mad Men on.
Isn't that some sort of zombie show? :shrug:
Oh look, a diverse group of 20-something 14CCP's tries to escape from zombies...and in the process learn something...about themselves.
Not so much on this from what I heard.
 
Just a heads-up, for those that fast forward through the commercials, next week AMC will be starting The Walking Dead which looks to be very good. Maybe that may help with any sort of blues you might have about not having Mad Men on.
Isn't that some sort of zombie show? :popcorn:
Oh look, a diverse group of 20-something 14CCP's tries to escape from zombies...and in the process learn something...about themselves.
Not so much on this from what I heard.
Eastbound and Down down?
 
Wait...is this the one based on a comic book?
Yep. Sorry to hijack the thread, didn't mean to, just wanted to throw a suggestion out there because AMC has really delivered two of the best shows in the past 5 years (Breaking Bad and Mad Men) so giving them a shot at their new show makes sense.
 
Guys, i just finished season one, I love this show.

Not sure if it gets explained more in seasons 2 and beyond but how the hell am i supposed to believe a character as bright as Peggy could be pregnant and not even know about it? I mean no periods, all the issues that come up with pregnancy, didnt she know she had done it with Pete?

I guess she thought the pill would protect her but was this believable to any of you?

 
Guys, i just finished season one, I love this show.Not sure if it gets explained more in seasons 2 and beyond but how the hell am i supposed to believe a character as bright as Peggy could be pregnant and not even know about it? I mean no periods, all the issues that come up with pregnancy, didnt she know she had done it with Pete?I guess she thought the pill would protect her but was this believable to any of you?
Yes. She could also have been in denial to the point of complete delusion.
 
Guys, i just finished season one, I love this show.Not sure if it gets explained more in seasons 2 and beyond but how the hell am i supposed to believe a character as bright as Peggy could be pregnant and not even know about it? I mean no periods, all the issues that come up with pregnancy, didnt she know she had done it with Pete?I guess she thought the pill would protect her but was this believable to any of you?
Yes. She could also have been in denial to the point of complete delusion.
I was commenting throughout the season especially later on that she was getting way to chubby, what is going on with her,but this type of twist would be fine for a soap opera, but Mad Men has such sharp writing, seemed a bit to much of a farce to me
 
Guys, i just finished season one, I love this show.Not sure if it gets explained more in seasons 2 and beyond but how the hell am i supposed to believe a character as bright as Peggy could be pregnant and not even know about it? I mean no periods, all the issues that come up with pregnancy, didnt she know she had done it with Pete?I guess she thought the pill would protect her but was this believable to any of you?
It's happened before in the real world, although it is rare. :thumbup:
 
Guys, i just finished season one, I love this show.

Not sure if it gets explained more in seasons 2 and beyond but how the hell am i supposed to believe a character as bright as Peggy could be pregnant and not even know about it? I mean no periods, all the issues that come up with pregnancy, didnt she know she had done it with Pete?

I guess she thought the pill would protect her but was this believable to any of you?
It's happened before in the real world, although it is rare. :lmao:
There is a show on TLC called 'I didn't know I was pregnant'. I thought it was pretty ridiculous at first also.
 
Guys, i just finished season one, I love this show.Not sure if it gets explained more in seasons 2 and beyond but how the hell am i supposed to believe a character as bright as Peggy could be pregnant and not even know about it? I mean no periods, all the issues that come up with pregnancy, didnt she know she had done it with Pete?I guess she thought the pill would protect her but was this believable to any of you?
Yes. She could also have been in denial to the point of complete delusion.
I was commenting throughout the season especially later on that she was getting way to chubby, what is going on with her,but this type of twist would be fine for a soap opera, but Mad Men has such sharp writing, seemed a bit to much of a farce to me
I thought the same thing when I caught up to the show (I started 3 seasons behind). It ends up being a piece of sharp writing as the show progresses.
 
I missed it too, but I don't think playing a board game with Smoo and fatguyinalittlecoat qualifies as doing something cooler than watching SNL by yourself.

I watched clips on Hulu. I always laugh at the Vincent Price skits. I'm a sucker for Liberace jokes.

 
WOW,just finished Season3!I am flying watching this show, amazing to watch this one after the other. It all fits so nicely at the end of each season without feeling cheesy or trying a crazy twist ending that every other show does.

A few questions on season 3 finale.

Why did Conrad Hilton tell Don he was leaving? If it was because of Mccan why couldnt Don tell Conrad about a startup he was doing to get his business back?

How could Lane fire the 3 leaders of a Company that was being sold? didn't he need approval of such firings? and couldnt the new buyers (mccan) dispute the firings since they were the owners and were only entering this agreement under false pretenses?

Pete was bringing in almost ALL the business why exactly wasnt he made a partner? he could have started his own agency if he wanted with that amount of clients

 
WOW,just finished Season3!I am flying watching this show, amazing to watch this one after the other. It all fits so nicely at the end of each season without feeling cheesy or trying a crazy twist ending that every other show does.

A few questions on season 3 finale.

Why did Conrad Hilton tell Don he was leaving? If it was because of Mccan why couldnt Don tell Conrad about a startup he was doing to get his business back?

How could Lane fire the 3 leaders of a Company that was being sold? didn't he need approval of such firings? and couldnt the new buyers (mccan) dispute the firings since they were the owners and were only entering this agreement under false pretenses?

Pete was bringing in almost ALL the business why exactly wasnt he made a partner? he could have started his own agency if he wanted with that amount of clients
He was. He just doesn't get him name on the company.
 
WOW,just finished Season3!I am flying watching this show, amazing to watch this one after the other. It all fits so nicely at the end of each season without feeling cheesy or trying a crazy twist ending that every other show does.A few questions on season 3 finale. Why did Conrad Hilton tell Don he was leaving? If it was because of Mccan why couldnt Don tell Conrad about a startup he was doing to get his business back?How could Lane fire the 3 leaders of a Company that was being sold? didn't he need approval of such firings? and couldnt the new buyers (mccan) dispute the firings since they were the owners and were only entering this agreement under false pretenses?Pete was bringing in almost ALL the business why exactly wasnt he made a partner? he could have started his own agency if he wanted with that amount of clients
1. Hilton is a pain in the ###. Don was never sure what he wanted. I don't think either one of them was what the others wanted.2. Apparently Lane had the authority to fire Don, Roger, and Bert. Whether that is realistic or not it is what happened. I'm just assuming that since Lane was the CFO (or whatever) and the highest ranking PPL officer in the US, London gave him that authority.3. No idea what the laws/rules are about that type of situation with McCann Erickson as the new owners. :football: Either way that is one of my most favorite episodes.
 
WOW,just finished Season3!I am flying watching this show, amazing to watch this one after the other. It all fits so nicely at the end of each season without feeling cheesy or trying a crazy twist ending that every other show does.A few questions on season 3 finale. Why did Conrad Hilton tell Don he was leaving? If it was because of Mccan why couldnt Don tell Conrad about a startup he was doing to get his business back?How could Lane fire the 3 leaders of a Company that was being sold? didn't he need approval of such firings? and couldnt the new buyers (mccan) dispute the firings since they were the owners and were only entering this agreement under false pretenses?Pete was bringing in almost ALL the business why exactly wasnt he made a partner? he could have started his own agency if he wanted with that amount of clients
1. Hilton is a pain in the ###. Don was never sure what he wanted. I don't think either one of them was what the others wanted.2. Apparently Lane had the authority to fire Don, Roger, and Bert. Whether that is realistic or not it is what happened. I'm just assuming that since Lane was the CFO (or whatever) and the highest ranking PPL officer in the US, London gave him that authority.3. No idea what the laws/rules are about that type of situation with McCann Erickson as the new owners. :o Either way that is one of my most favorite episodes.
ThanksSure Hilton was a pain in the rear but he was worth zillions. Lucky Strikes wanted Sal fired because he didnt want toget butt raped, you telling me they werent pains too? Don doesnt just slink back when someone says no, I felt he should still go after Hilton since Connie loved DonAnd though season 4 has finished, I am hoping that Don continues his relationship with Schoolteacher, I find her interesting
 
biggamer3 said:
Sure Hilton was a pain in the rear but he was worth zillions. Lucky Strikes wanted Sal fired because he didnt want toget butt raped, you telling me they werent pains too?
I'm a graphic designer (LOOK AT ME!!!!!) and I have dealt with some very rich and powerful clients. There's a law when it comes to clients: the richer and more powerful they are, the more difficult they are. Rarely is there an exception to this rule.
 
WOW,just finished Season3!I am flying watching this show, amazing to watch this one after the other. It all fits so nicely at the end of each season without feeling cheesy or trying a crazy twist ending that every other show does.A few questions on season 3 finale. Why did Conrad Hilton tell Don he was leaving? If it was because of Mccan why couldnt Don tell Conrad about a startup he was doing to get his business back?How could Lane fire the 3 leaders of a Company that was being sold? didn't he need approval of such firings? and couldnt the new buyers (mccan) dispute the firings since they were the owners and were only entering this agreement under false pretenses?Pete was bringing in almost ALL the business why exactly wasnt he made a partner? he could have started his own agency if he wanted with that amount of clients
The relationship between Don and Conrad was complex. Both of them pushed back on each other in ways that other people didn't. Conrad literally wanted the moon, and tore into Don when he refused to give it to him. Don had always been career motivated, but always with some kind of autonomy. When he is forced into conflict, he runs. They may have left on good terms, but I don't think that it would have been easy for Don to go back to Hilton at that point. I'm not sure what else I can safely say since you're still a ways back.Lane was authorized to do all firings. That's why they sent him to New York. McCan didn't put any parameters on that when they authorized him to do the firings, so he could legally fire them, but McCan was obviously upset about it. So McCan fired Lane. Which is exactly what he and the rest of them wanted. That's why Don and co. needed Lane - and why they offered him a seat at the partner's table when he was just a well trusted beancounter from the UK. Pete wasn't good enough to start his own agency. He was accounts, not creative. He might have been able to work somewhere else - maybe use his father in law's contacts, or work at a competitor with people who had sneered at him, or work with Kenny - but those were all terrible options. And as a weaselly career minded twerp, after his advancement had been shot down repeatedly at Sterling Cooper, he was very frustrated. When Don gave him both the respect and the title, he had what he wanted. Who knows if that's the end game for Pete Campbell, but that was enough for him to make the move.
 
Just watched a DVRed episode of Law and Order SVU from a couple of weeks ago. Michael Gladis (Paul Kinsey) played the victim of a home invasion. While the cops are talking to him his wife butts in and says "The mad-men who did this are still out there!" :rolleyes:

 
Saw it, will watch it again. We'll see if it hooks me.
3 years after watching the 1st episode and never getting a chance to watch another, I finally watched episodes 2 through 52 the last 3 weeks. And then I caught up on this thread. Here are the last 3+ years of this thread in 48 words:- Sal : Mad Men :: Furio : Sopranos- When Alan Sepinwall drops a duece, he poops out mini Chuck Norrises- Joan absolutely had the abortion, until she didn't- Peggy (the actress and the character) finally won over every Peggy hater with "The Suitcase" episode- Joan has big boobs- Betty is a stiff
 
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Mad Men's fifth season still isn't confirmed

AMC likes Mad Men, viewers and critics like Mad Men, creator Matthew Weiner likes Mad Men—and yet somehow this mutual lovefest has not resulted in an official fifth season, with Weiner telling Entertainment Weekly that he’s yet to even begin working while contract details are still being hammered out between AMC and production company Lionsgate. Although network executives said earlier this month that the plan was to “definitely” bring the show back, Weiner says he still doesn’t have a deal yet, and furthermore has no idea when he will—although he insists that he’s not looking to move on, saying, “I have every intention of making the show when they decide to work out their business with Lionsgate. I can’t wait to come back to work. I have said over and over in public that I want the show to go on and on and on until it has worn out its welcome with viewers and we can’t think of anything more for the characters to do.”

The problem is, of course, money: “They are fighting over a very lucrative property, and who is going to pay for it to get made,” Weiner adds, whose contract is up for renegotiation. “It’s one of the biggest perils of success—everyone wants a piece of it now and they are fighting over who is gonna get the biggest chunk. Then they will come to me because talent is last. It would be heartbreaking for me if they don’t work it out, horrifying really. It would be a shame for fans to never get to see what great stuff we have planned for Don and company.” Indeed. Although we’re pretty sure that no one involved is going to let Mad Men slip away, as the negotiations drag on, it seems less and less likely that the show will return in 2011, and that fans of 1960s-era amorality may have to comfort themselves with knockoffs like Playboy and Magic City, or dive into the seedy world of Mad Men fan fiction (which exists).
 
:thumbup: so I don't miss updates on the contract negotiations.

had no idea this coming season was in peril. ugh.

 

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