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[Marvin]

Fat suit-wearing January Jones returns to 'Mad Men' in a really big way

Alan Sepinwall described Betty's storyline as the "weakest one," noting that "Having a female character get fat is one way of dealing with an actress pregnancy you don't want to write into your show."

"Because January Jones is so slender to begin with, and didn't pack on that much weight, the show apparently had to resort to some of the makeup tricks they used on Elisabeth Moss during Peggy's pregnancy late in season 1, plus a non-pregnant body double for the bath scene," he continued. "I get that it's an awkward position to be in, story-wise, and Betty having another baby so soon after Gene would not only complicate her life but go against the suggestion here that Henry and Betty's sex life tapered off not long after they moved out of the Ossining house."

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't one of the reasons why Betty couldn't lose weight was the tumor on her thyroid?

 

[Juxtatarot]

Fat suit-wearing January Jones returns to 'Mad Men' in a really big way

Alan Sepinwall described Betty's storyline as the "weakest one," noting that "Having a female character get fat is one way of dealing with an actress pregnancy you don't want to write into your show."

"Because January Jones is so slender to begin with, and didn't pack on that much weight, the show apparently had to resort to some of the makeup tricks they used on Elisabeth Moss during Peggy's pregnancy late in season 1, plus a non-pregnant body double for the bath scene," he continued. "I get that it's an awkward position to be in, story-wise, and Betty having another baby so soon after Gene would not only complicate her life but go against the suggestion here that Henry and Betty's sex life tapered off not long after they moved out of the Ossining house."

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't one of the reasons why Betty couldn't lose weight was the tumor on her thyroid?

Bugles and ice cream tell a different story.

 

[Raider Nation]

Seppy posts his reviews on Monday morning now. Other than for the first episode(s), which he got weeks in advance.

We've now passed Independence Day of 1966, which means the counter-culture is ever more ascendant, and which means the generation gap is about to turn into a generation chasm. We've already dispensed with the period when it was considered fashionable for someone like Paul to take on the airs of a much older man; now there's confusion and hostility between the older generation and the one that's eager to replace it.And it's that threat of being replaced — even if it's not necessarily by a future flower child — that links all the stories of "Tea Leaves."In our most prominent story — and, unfortunately, the weakest one, as it involves the show's least compelling main character — Betty gets a medical scare on a routine trip to the doctor for diet pills. She spends the episode convinced she's going to die — and, worse, that the kids will grow up raised by some combination of Henry's mother Pauline and Megan. (Betty is so threatened by the idea of Don with Megan that she still tries to think of her as Don's girlfriend and not his wife, and shaves six years off her age for dramatic effect.) And in that story's closing moments, we're reminded of just how threatened Henry is by Don — even though it was Henry who stole Betty away from Don, he's constantly on edge that the arrangement might reverse itself, and he likes the idea of Betty talking to her ex-husband not one bit.I didn't especially miss Betty in the season premiere, and though she's packed on some weight since last we saw her, she's unchanged in many other ways: chronically unhappy, reluctant or unable to fully articulate the reasons for that unhappiness, and almost stubborn in her myopia. Betty gets the good news about the tumor being benign, and her impulse is to quickly turn it back into a discussion of her being fat, how hideous she is, how she's started to resemble Henry's mother, etc., where Henry, for whatever his faults, is just happy and relieved that his wife isn't going to die of cancer. "Mad Men" tends to move at a very measured, leisurely pace, but most of the time, I love that. I could have taken a good five more minutes of Don and Harry in Don's car after the Rolling Stones debacle, with Harry desperate to avoid going home, for instance. About the only time I actually become impatient with the pace is when we're spending as much time with Betty as we did tonight. There have been some interesting and/or sympathetic Betty episodes over the years — "Shoot" from season 1 and "Souvenir" from season 3 come to mind — but this wasn't one of them.Fortunately, Betty's story was at least woven in with some strong material over on the work end of things, where the men and women of Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce are also contemplating the idea of being replaced.In Roger's case, he already has been replaced by Pete in every way but the name on the door, but he keeps fighting it, and he keeps resenting it. And his self-pity doesn't even allow himself to see that he invited Pete's Mohawk stunt in the lobby with his own behavior throughout the season premiere. Roger's tired of feeling challenged by the kid, but he's the one who invited the challenge first by being too complacent with Lucky Strike and the rest of the job, and then by trying to draft off of Pete when nothing else works.And Roger winds up pushing Peggy to hire new copywriter Michael Ginsberg — who, given both the overriding theme of the episode and Stan's prophetic comments (which very much echoed Dr. Faye telling Don he'd be married within a year), seems likely to usurp her role as the rising young star in SCDP creative.But at least Roger's aware that the times, they are a-changing, even if he doesn't like it. At the start of the series, it was a joke to him that the agency might have a Jew in a prominent role, where here he acknowledges to Peggy that having someone like Michael "makes the agency more modern." And Michael is a transition figure of sorts, from the traditional immigrant Jews represented by Rachel Menken's father — or by Michael's own father, who reacts to news of his hiring by reciting the priestly blessing in Hebrew — to the secular hipsterism of Woody Allen and Lenny Bruce.Throughout the episode, we see various misunderstandings and awkward moments between the generations. Don worries that Megan doesn't fully appreciate death, while Megan genuinely doesn't understand how Don could be okay enough with Betty's condition to go out one night, and then be in a funk the next day. Don's backstage friend Bonnie has no idea who Charlton Heston is, just as Michael is puzzled when his father mentions the death of former Tigers and Red Sox outfielder Pete Fox, while Raymond from Heinz understands little about The Rolling Stones and assumes Don can get them to do a jingle for beans.But there are also moments where the older generation demonstrates a pretty good handle on the replacements. Roger does realize the value someone like Michael might have for the firm's image, after all. And sure, Don's much more in his element charming an older woman like Raymond's wife than he is making small talk with Bonnie, but he also zeroes in on enough of what makes her tick that she feels the need to step away from him for a moment, asking to try his business card on the doorman as her transparent excuse. And we see at the end of their encounter that the new generation doesn't fully understand the people they hope to replace, either, when she complains that older men like Don don't want her to have fun "just because you never did," which allows Don to get as fatherly as possible and suggest, "No. We're worried about you."By the close of the episode, we know that Megan won't be replacing Betty as the kids' mother figure anytime soon, but Roger's still feeling threatened, Peggy might soon be, and there will come a point where Don probably can't carry on a conversation with a teenager without telling him or her to get off his lawn. Roger wants things to get back to normal, but the rapid change going on in this period of history — or, as we can see in present-day, the rapid change that happens in life — says that anyone who thinks things will ever go back to exactly the way they were before is just itching to be replaced by someone more eager to look forward than back.Some other thoughts:* Jon Hamm made his directorial debut with this one, which was actually filmed ahead of the season premiere to give him adequate prep time. (It's the same reason Bryan Cranston has only directed "Breaking Bad" premieres, and why Zachary Levi wasn't prominently featured in the two "Chuck" episodes before the ones he directed; the pre-production work eats up too much acting time otherwise.) Though I had my aforementioned issues with the Betty material, I thought Hamm did a good job with the visual style, and also working with his familiar co-stars in a different capacity. As i said before, all the Don/Harry material was light and engaging, and Betty's desperate phone call to Don was a strong moment for both January Jones and Hamm himself. One thing I didn't love — which could have been Hamm or could have been the editor — was not only the frequent use of dissolves, but the way they at times seemed to cut the first scene too short before moving into the second. It was particularly jarring going from Betty getting out of the tub to Betty at the doctor's office.* Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce has now taken on two notable new staffers, both of them minorities. I already talked about Ginsberg, played by Ben Feldman from "Drop Dead Diva," while Teyonah Parris plays Don's new secretary Dawn, who inspires various bits of amusing Don/Dawn confusion/wordplay. I think the jury's still out on Feldman here, as he seemed very mannered in the first interview with Peggy. But there's also a sense that he's always "on" at work, and the guy we saw coming home to his father's apartment was dialed back a fair amount, so the affect may be intentional.* "Bewitched" debuted a couple of months before the events of the fourth season premiere, so it was only a matter of time before some character on the show would compare Don to Darrin Stephens (or, here, by mother-in-law Endora's dismissive nickname for him, "Durwood"). I'd always figured Roger would be in that scene and get compared to Larry Tate, but instead it's Harry being held up as some kind of Abner Kravitz, the poor *******.* Was this the first significant Roger/Peggy interaction since she asked for Freddie's office late in season 2? Either way, more please. Elisabeth Moss and John Slattery were terrific together (though who is Slattery not good with?), and it's a mark of how far Peggy's come in the agency that he'd be treating her as, if not an equal, than someone at least worthy of attention and some small respect.* So who was the band that Harry thought were the Rolling Stones? A Twitter follower pointed out that some of the members of Styx called themselves The Tradwinds in the early '60s, but they changed their name by 1965 because a Rhode Island band called The Trade Winds had become successful. Even stoned, would Harry confuse a bunch of guys from Rhode Island with one of the bands at the forefront of the British Invasion?* As mentioned last week, I'm screener-less for the rest of the season. I wound up staying up tonight to write this one, but as I'm about to publish, I'm feeling very much the old man on the verge of being replaced by hippies. So my guess is future reviews are going to come sometime in the late morning on Monday. UPDATE: And, of course, when I stay up to write them, I inevitably forget things, so a few more bullet points: * The Stones/Heinz thing may well have been Weiner and Levy referencing "The Who Sell Out," which had Roger Daltrey posing with a can of Heinz beans on the album cover. That was in 1967, and of course they were making fun of the idea of sponsoring such a product.* Henry makes a reference to "Romney" being a clown. That's him talking about Mitt's father George, the Michigan governor who was big enough in the Republican party that he ran against Goldwater for a time during the 1964 primaries. Let me remind you, as always, of this blog's No Politics rule, which for the most part has only had to cover contemporary politics. If you want to talk about George Romney and why a top aide of John Lindsay might not like the guy, go ahead. If you want to discuss whether Weiner and Levy were taking a shot at Mitt, that's a no go. Any comments about the Romney currently in the headlines will be deleted. Thank you.

 

[Daywalker]

Did Henry call Romney's dad an idiot?

 

[Righetti]

Did Henry call Romney's dad an idiot?

thought that was pretty funny too..

 

[Righetti]

I dind't really 'get' the Stones thing.. It was so obvious they were never going to meet them and I guess it's just their way at poking some fun but it seems out of character for Don to even put up with this.. There is just no way he's going to subject himself to a Saturday-night combination of waiting outside of a dressing room with Harry

 

[badmojo1006]

Did Henry call Romney's dad an idiot?

And his grandson gets all indignant about it

 

[Doug B]

Never watched Mad Men until looking at a few re-run episodes two Sundays back. Didn't know any of the character's backgrounds, so I was approaching the characters and situations fresh. I have a question whic I'm sure someone in this thread can answer:

There's this one guy who works at the agency that comes to work every day in a polo-type shirt. Everyone else is walking around in a suit, and this one guy is in a polo. Seems weirdly out of place, and it occured to me that maybe it is a plot ploint. So ... who is this character and what's his deal? I thought maybe he was maybe hitting the golf course a lot, but in three episodes they've never showed him out on a course.

 

[badmojo1006]

Never watched Mad Men until looking at a few re-run episodes two Sundays back. Didn't know any of the character's backgrounds, so I was approaching the characters and situations fresh. I have a question whic I'm sure someone in this thread can answer:

There's this one guy who works at the agency that comes to work every day in a polo-type shirt. Everyone else is walking around in a suit, and this one guy is in a polo. Seems weirdly out of place, and it occured to me that maybe it is a plot ploint. So ... who is this character and what's his deal? I thought maybe he was maybe hitting the golf course a lot, but in three episodes they've never showed him out on a course.

He works in the art department, so his dress code is a little lax.

 

[Doug B]

He works in the art department, so his dress code is a little lax.

He's a one-man department? Or if I watched more episodes, I'd see others dressed similarly?

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

He works in the art department, so his dress code is a little lax.

He's a one-man department? Or if I watched more episodes, I'd see others dressed similarly?

His personality is also a factor. If you think you like the show it's probably worth it to go back and watch from the start.

 

[Abraham]

Agreed. I sort of liked it while watching season 3 as 4, missing as many episodes as I watched. I went back and watched them in order on Netflix and now it's one of my favorite shows.

 

[jamny]

I'm enjoying the show so far, even if it is just kind of meandering along at the moment.

Notice how easily Megan's dress zipped up just after showing Betty struggling to get hers up?

Really no reason for that Romney line. I'm sitting here enjoying the escapism of their fictional world and they have to interject their political bias into a scene. Dumb.

How high must Harry have been to confuse another band with the Stones. Seems very far-fetched, especially coming from the advertising world.

So now Betty will be pissed at Don for not checking in to see how she's doing.

Will Ginsberg and Peggy become an item or fierce rivals, or both?

Looks like Pete is pushing to be the face of the company big time now.

It's Always Darkest Before The Dawn - wow.

 

[Apple Jack]

I'm enjoying the show so far, even if it is just kind of meandering along at the moment.

Notice how easily Megan's dress zipped up just after showing Betty struggling to get hers up?

Really no reason for that Romney line. I'm sitting here enjoying the escapism of their fictional world and they have to interject their political bias into a scene. Dumb. You politics-obsessed types really need to unclench a bit. It was a clever way to tie the show to today, brief, and was the voice of one character on a tv show. Your world was not being threatened by Matthew Weiner. It's okay.

How high must Harry have been to confuse another band with the Stones. Seems very far-fetched, especially coming from the advertising world. Why is that far-fetched? They hadn't been on the pop culture landscape in the US for long at that point. Hell, they've had 50 years to absorb into our collective conscious now, and could you pick Brian Jones out of a lineup? Do you know what Bill Wyman looks like? They were still new and there was nothing like the media blitz we have today.

So now Betty will be pissed at Don for not checking in to see how she's doing. Can't get anything past you.

Will Ginsberg and Peggy become an item or fierce rivals, or both? He showed that the swagger was a facade. They'll be fine and will probably hook up. He'll be a bit of a chauvinist, she'll kick his ### and they'll screw.

Looks like Pete is pushing to be the face of the company big time now. Don is the face of the company. Pete is just a sales guy. But he is head of accounts and soon to be partner, so behind Don, yes.

It's Always Darkest Before The Dawn - wow. Wow what?

 

[jamny]

I'm enjoying the show so far, even if it is just kind of meandering along at the moment.

Notice how easily Megan's dress zipped up just after showing Betty struggling to get hers up?

Really no reason for that Romney line. I'm sitting here enjoying the escapism of their fictional world and they have to interject their political bias into a scene. Dumb. You politics-obsessed types really need to unclench a bit. It was a clever way to tie the show to today, brief, and was the voice of one character on a tv show. Your world was not being threatened by Matthew Weiner. It's okay.Someone can't comment on their opinion of using the name? It doesn't effect my view of the show, just thought it was dumb. You might be the one that needs to unclench if my comment bothers you so much.

How high must Harry have been to confuse another band with the Stones. Seems very far-fetched, especially coming from the advertising world. Why is that far-fetched? They hadn't been on the pop culture landscape in the US for long at that point. Hell, they've had 50 years to absorb into our collective conscious now, and could you pick Brian Jones out of a lineup? Do you know what Bill Wyman looks like? They were still new and there was nothing like the media blitz we have today.He sits and has a conversation with these guys and is fooled. I just found it far-fetched, you found it believable. Neither opinion is invalid.

So now Betty will be pissed at Don for not checking in to see how she's doing. Can't get anything past you. Nice. It's just a comment. I didn't think it was an incredibly hidden perception, just an observation that hasn't been mentioned yet.

Will Ginsberg and Peggy become an item or fierce rivals, or both? He showed that the swagger was a facade. They'll be fine and will probably hook up. He'll be a bit of a chauvinist, she'll kick his ### and they'll screw.Oh, ok. The storyline is set. Thx!

Looks like Pete is pushing to be the face of the company big time now. Don is the face of the company. Pete is just a sales guy. But he is head of accounts and soon to be partner, so behind Don, yes.Pushing to be the face of the company. We know that Don is now.

It's Always Darkest Before The Dawn - wow. Wow what?Just something you don't normally hear on TV. Ballsy line to throw in, imo.

 

[Disc Shark]

Can't wait to see where this Roger/Pete feud is going. My money is on fisticuffs.

Roger throwing Pete through the window. Maybe the root of the opening? Eh?

That was a great line. When Don comes out of his office and Roger and Ginsburg are looking out of the window and Roger says, "We both want to throw something through that window." Roger is obviously referring to Pete.The Ginsburg character looks promising.I think Jones' face is natural pregnancy fat, but I heard her body was CGI. There's no way in the world an actress like her would put on 60-70 lbs for a show, even one as good as Mad Men. I predict that Betty will get hooked on diet pills and Valium and the ending song of one of this season's episodes will be the Stones' Mothers Little Helper.Don is bored right now. It won't be long before he starts philandering and gets fired up about work again. Don Draper's mid-life crisis should be epic.And to the next person that writes "meh" ... I'm coming over to his house to wail on his head with a two-by-four like that UK fan went to town on that stop sign. At least try to express a coherent thought in something approximating English.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I think Jones' face is natural pregnancy fat, but I heard her body was CGI. There's no way in the world an actress like her would put on 60-70 lbs for a show, even one as good as Mad Men. I predict that Betty will get hooked on diet pills and Valium and the ending song of one of this season's episodes will be the Stones' Mothers Little Helper.

It's already been mentioned that it's a fat suit and makeup and the shot getting out of the tub was of a body double.

 

[zamboni]

I predict that Betty will get hooked on diet pills and Valium and the ending song of one of this season's episodes will be the Stones' Mothers Little Helper.

Nice

 

[bushdocda]

I predict that Betty will get hooked on diet pills and Valium and the ending song of one of this season's episodes will be the Stones' Mothers Little Helper.

Nice

That sounds so fun. Seriously.

 

[Marvin]

Really no reason for that Romney line. I'm sitting here enjoying the escapism of their fictional world and they have to interject their political bias into a scene. Dumb.

You know they're not talking about Mitt, right?

 

[identikit]

Really no reason for that Romney line. I'm sitting here enjoying the escapism of their fictional world and they have to interject their political bias into a scene. Dumb.

You know they're not talking about Mitt, right?

Was his old man (George). Was governor of Michigan.I thought it was smart writing.

 

[Apple Jack]

Really no reason for that Romney line. I'm sitting here enjoying the escapism of their fictional world and they have to interject their political bias into a scene. Dumb.

You know they're not talking about Mitt, right?

""Didn't occur to me that he might not know the story there.

 

[Wrighteous Ray]

Really no reason for that Romney line. I'm sitting here enjoying the escapism of their fictional world and they have to interject their political bias into a scene. Dumb.

You know they're not talking about Mitt, right?

Right, it's not like Henry Francis even knows about little Mitt.

 

[jamny]

Really no reason for that Romney line. I'm sitting here enjoying the escapism of their fictional world and they have to interject their political bias into a scene. Dumb.

You know they're not talking about Mitt, right?

yes

 

[Sam Quentin]

Really no reason for that Romney line. I'm sitting here enjoying the escapism of their fictional world and they have to interject their political bias into a scene. Dumb.

You know they're not talking about Mitt, right?

duh

 

[jdoggydogg]

Good interview here:

'Mad Men' Creator On What's Next For Don Draper

 

[Raider Nation]

Notice how easily Megan's dress zipped up just after showing Betty struggling to get hers up?

Yes?

 

[jamny]

Notice how easily Megan's dress zipped up just after showing Betty struggling to get hers up?

Yes?

Thought it was a nice touch. Start one scene with the daughter struggling to help her Mom and the next scene with Don doing an easy zip-up on Megan.

 

[Marvin]

Really no reason for that Romney line. I'm sitting here enjoying the escapism of their fictional world and they have to interject their political bias into a scene. Dumb.

You know they're not talking about Mitt, right?

yes

So what's your beef?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

New mommy is prettier than old mommy.

Don't really get the "It's not going anywhere/Don needs to start ####### sluts again" critiques. You realize that this is the show, right? It's not a soap opera.

Well, it's not a low-rent soap opera.

 

[jamny]

Really no reason for that Romney line. I'm sitting here enjoying the escapism of their fictional world and they have to interject their political bias into a scene. Dumb.

You know they're not talking about Mitt, right?

yes

So what's your beef?

I just thought it was dumb to throw that in there.Is there a problem with me having that opinion?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Really no reason for that Romney line. I'm sitting here enjoying the escapism of their fictional world and they have to interject their political bias into a scene. Dumb.

You know they're not talking about Mitt, right?

yes

So what's your beef?

I just thought it was dumb to throw that in there.Is there a problem with me having that opinion?

As far as showrunners injecting their political opinions into a show go, it was pretty subtle. Those of us who aren't stick-up-the-###-GOP'ers had a good chuckle about it.

 

[Marvin]

Really no reason for that Romney line. I'm sitting here enjoying the escapism of their fictional world and they have to interject their political bias into a scene. Dumb.

You know they're not talking about Mitt, right?

yes

So what's your beef?

I just thought it was dumb to throw that in there.Is there a problem with me having that opinion?

As far as showrunners injecting their political opinions into a show go, it was pretty subtle. Those of us who aren't stick-up-the-###-GOP'ers had a good chuckle about it.

And you have to remember that 95% of the time the characters are spouting off what would typically be considered right-wing opinions.

 

[zamboni]

Notice how easily Megan's dress zipped up just after showing Betty struggling to get hers up?

Yes?

Thought it was a nice touch. Start one scene with the daughter struggling to help her Mom and the next scene with Don doing an easy zip-up on Megan.

Another not-so-subtlety was at the end when Betty and Sally were chowing down ice cream sundaes, and Betty asked Sally if she wanted any more. Seemed clear that Sally saw mom's weight gain as a sign to stop eating.

 

[jamny]

Really no reason for that Romney line. I'm sitting here enjoying the escapism of their fictional world and they have to interject their political bias into a scene. Dumb.

You know they're not talking about Mitt, right?

yes

So what's your beef?

I just thought it was dumb to throw that in there.Is there a problem with me having that opinion?

As far as showrunners injecting their political opinions into a show go, it was pretty subtle. Those of us who aren't stick-up-the-###-GOP'ers had a good chuckle about it.

Pretty subtle. Glad you enjoyed it.Just a moment for me. Nothing more.Everyone else seems to be making more of it than I did.

 

[jamny]

Notice how easily Megan's dress zipped up just after showing Betty struggling to get hers up?

Yes?

Thought it was a nice touch. Start one scene with the daughter struggling to help her Mom and the next scene with Don doing an easy zip-up on Megan.

Another not-so-subtlety was at the end when Betty and Sally were chowing down ice cream sundaes, and Betty asked Sally if she wanted any more. Seemed clear that Sally saw mom's weight gain as a sign to stop eating.

and pretty obvious that Betty wouldn't let it go to waste.

 

[The_Man]

Never thought I'd see the day where Sally actually looked better than Betty.

Megan looks hot until she smiles. Those choppers are scary.

I loved stoned Harry eating the bag of 20 mini-burgers. Don's disdain for him is great.

 

[jamny]

Never thought I'd see the day where Sally actually looked better than Betty.Megan looks hot until she smiles. Those choppers are scary. I loved stoned Harry eating the bag of 20 mini-burgers. Don's disdain for him is great.

Don seemed to have a bit of a contact high in the hallway.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Really no reason for that Romney line. I'm sitting here enjoying the escapism of their fictional world and they have to interject their political bias into a scene. Dumb.

You know they're not talking about Mitt, right?

yes

So what's your beef?

I just thought it was dumb to throw that in there.Is there a problem with me having that opinion?

As far as showrunners injecting their political opinions into a show go, it was pretty subtle. Those of us who aren't stick-up-the-###-GOP'ers had a good chuckle about it.

Pretty subtle. Glad you enjoyed it.Just a moment for me. Nothing more.Everyone else seems to be making more of it than I did.

You brought it up here.

 

[jamny]

You brought it up here.

I wasn't the first. Probably wouldn't have mentioned it if it hadn't been already. Love the personal insults because I didn't care for it though.Typical.

 

[zamboni]

I loved stoned Harry eating the bag of 20 mini-burgers. Don's disdain for him is great.

Had to have been White Castle burgers, but probably couldn't mention or show the bag.Was great when Harry asked Don if he wanted dinner before the concert, and Don just sternly dissed him "no".

 

[Marvin]

Really no reason for that Romney line. I'm sitting here enjoying the escapism of their fictional world and they have to interject their political bias into a scene. Dumb.

You know they're not talking about Mitt, right?

yes

So what's your beef?

I just thought it was dumb to throw that in there.Is there a problem with me having that opinion?

As far as showrunners injecting their political opinions into a show go, it was pretty subtle. Those of us who aren't stick-up-the-###-GOP'ers had a good chuckle about it.

Pretty subtle. Glad you enjoyed it.Just a moment for me. Nothing more.Everyone else seems to be making more of it than I did.

You're the one that made something out of it.

 

[jamny]

You're the one that made something out of it.

Made something out of it?I commented on it like a couple of other people did.It's an opinion. Not everyone's is the same ya know. I didn't criticize anyone else for liking it.Or insult anyone.

 

[Apple Jack]

Never thought I'd see the day where Sally actually looked better than Betty.Megan looks hot until she smiles. Those choppers are scary. I loved stoned Harry eating the bag of 20 mini-burgers. Don's disdain for him is great.

"There's one left, do you want it?""Weren't there 20?"

 

[Marvin]

You're the one that made something out of it.

Made something out of it?I commented on it like a couple of other people did.It's an opinion. Not everyone's is the same ya know. I didn't criticize anyone else for liking it.Or insult anyone.

Link to me insulting anyone? And of course everyone's opinion isn't the same as mine. There are a lot of wrong people in the world.

 

[jdoggydogg]

And of course everyone's opinion isn't the same as mine. There are a lot of wrong people in the world.

...and the majority of those wrong people seem to frequent this forum.

 

[Raider Nation]

Never thought I'd see the day where Sally actually looked better than Betty.

 

[pollardsvision]

For the record, the Republican Party and Mitt Romney both scare the #### out of me, and I enjoyed that Weiner took a little dig.

But I didn't think jamny was making a big deal out of it. There's a difference between being unduly outraged and thinking it was dumb or unnecessary.

 

[badmojo1006]

Never thought I'd see the day where Sally actually looked better than Betty.

Megan looks hot until she smiles. Those choppers are scary.

I loved stoned Harry eating the bag of 20 mini-burgers. Don's disdain for him is great.

Dude! She is 12!

 

[jamny]

For the record, the Republican Party and Mitt Romney both scare the #### out of me, and I enjoyed that Weiner took a little dig.But I didn't think jamny was making a big deal out of it. There's a difference between being unduly outraged and thinking it was dumb or unnecessary.

Hey, a voice of reason. I get that people would get a kick out of the line but don't understand how others think that everyone should just consider "Romney's a clown" to be a subtle jab. "Oh, but they were talking about his father." As if Mitt weren't running that line would still be in there.Didn't ruin the show for me, it was forgotten soon after as the show went on. Just an opinion.