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[Righetti]

so is Weiner setting up Don for a gigantic fall this year or will he be able to toe the line and not get himself into any trouble or at least not get caught

It's funny but the entire season has felt very Don-less.. I know there are a few scenes but they have made a conserted effort to put some of the other characters into the spotlight.. I bet that Don's getting less screentime now vs previous seasons

 

[Marvin]

Loved the episode, but I'm growing tired of the Draper as Fonzie shtick. Surprised he didn't just tap the sink with his fist like a jukebox.

Last episode they referred to him as handsome dseveral times and this episode the women call him Superman and in the whorehouse...Roger "even in here, he's doing better than us."

That said, where I think this may be going is that Meghan is going to step out on him. Don is finally monogamous, but now the tables will turn.

And this has happened when?

 

[Marvin]

"Just so you guys know...I had Lane."

 

[Marvin]

 

[joffer]

just finished season 3, and about half way through this thread. any consensus on what the best season is? Just on what i've seen, i'd go 3, 1, 2

 

[jdoggydogg]

And more Pete Campbell. That's what the show had been missing.

I've been disappointed with this season so far, but all that Campbell stuff was gold.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I'm growing tired of the Draper as Fonzie shtick.

That will never get old to me.

 

[Marvin]

@ Ben Hargrove.

 

[Marvin]

Found around the net today

Lane

KTFO

 

[Apple Jack]

Poor Pete is having a tough go of things lately.

 

[Marvin]

Poor Pete is having a tough go of things lately.

I would say that at least he has that nice house but then again it is decorated terribly.

 

[jdoggydogg]

That scene where the hooker is running through the various iterations and scenarious for Campell's approval was extrememly dark - and the very kind of scene that separates Mad Men from most TV series.

 

[Apple Jack]

That scene where the hooker is running through the various iterations and scenarious for Campell's approval was extrememly dark - and the very kind of scene that separates Mad Men from most TV series.

See, this is an example of differently people see things. I didn't find it dark at all. On the contrary, I found it pretty funny and all right there. Dark, to me, is finding a way to put a happy face on a product that kills people by the thousands. Or freezing out your children. I can think of a lot of things I would call dark on Mad Men, but that scene with Pete and the hooker wasn't one of them. I just found that ha-ha funny.

 

[jdoggydogg]

That scene where the hooker is running through the various iterations and scenarious for Campell's approval was extrememly dark - and the very kind of scene that separates Mad Men from most TV series.

See, this is an example of differently people see things. I didn't find it dark at all. On the contrary, I found it pretty funny and all right there. Dark, to me, is finding a way to put a happy face on a product that kills people by the thousands. Or freezing out your children. I can think of a lot of things I would call dark on Mad Men, but that scene with Pete and the hooker wasn't one of them. I just found that ha-ha funny.

Not only is the guy about to cheat on his wife with no seeming inner conflict, he's treating a human being like a piece of meat. That's dark, bro.

 

[Marvin]

That scene where the hooker is running through the various iterations and scenarious for Campell's approval was extrememly dark - and the very kind of scene that separates Mad Men from most TV series.

See, this is an example of differently people see things. I didn't find it dark at all. On the contrary, I found it pretty funny and all right there. Dark, to me, is finding a way to put a happy face on a product that kills people by the thousands. Or freezing out your children. I can think of a lot of things I would call dark on Mad Men, but that scene with Pete and the hooker wasn't one of them. I just found that ha-ha funny.

Not only is the guy about to cheat on his wife with no seeming inner conflict, he's treating a human being like a piece of meat. That's dark, bro.

You say "dark" I say "my goal for the weekend".

 

[jdoggydogg]

That scene where the hooker is running through the various iterations and scenarious for Campell's approval was extrememly dark - and the very kind of scene that separates Mad Men from most TV series.

See, this is an example of differently people see things. I didn't find it dark at all. On the contrary, I found it pretty funny and all right there. Dark, to me, is finding a way to put a happy face on a product that kills people by the thousands. Or freezing out your children. I can think of a lot of things I would call dark on Mad Men, but that scene with Pete and the hooker wasn't one of them. I just found that ha-ha funny.

Not only is the guy about to cheat on his wife with no seeming inner conflict, he's treating a human being like a piece of meat. That's dark, bro.

You say "dark" I say "my goal for the weekend".

I hate New Year's resolutions. But every year I post the same resolution of Facebook: "This year, I resolve to gain weight and screw more prostitutes."

 

[Marvin]

I can only I remember watching Mad Men one time and thinking "I don't ever want to watch that scene again".

That was when Duck abandoned Chauncey on the street.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I can only I remember watching Mad Men one time and thinking "I don't ever want to watch that scene again".That was when Duck abandoned Chauncey on the street.

That was awful :(

 

[Marvin]

I can only I remember watching Mad Men one time and thinking "I don't ever want to watch that scene again".That was when Duck abandoned Chauncey on the street.

That was awful :(

Oh and the time Don turned down the Asian waitress at the Japanese restaurant.

 

[Apple Jack]

I can only I remember watching Mad Men one time and thinking "I don't ever want to watch that scene again".That was when Duck abandoned Chauncey on the street.

That was awful :(

Oh and the time Don turned down the Asian waitress at the Japanese restaurant.

Every time Don turns down sex, God kills a puppy.

 

[badmojo1006]

I can only I remember watching Mad Men one time and thinking "I don't ever want to watch that scene again".That was when Duck abandoned Chauncey on the street.

Or when Adam Whitman was getting ready to hang himself

 

[Marvin]

I can only I remember watching Mad Men one time and thinking "I don't ever want to watch that scene again".That was when Duck abandoned Chauncey on the street.

Or when Adam Whitman was getting ready to hang himself

Good point. He should have given that money to a homeless person or something.

 

[zamboni]

Pete was totally and painfully emasculated throughout.

All the male characters were emasculated throughout, which was clearly the overriding theme.Pete: as we discussed Don: by Megan (refusing to cancel on Trudy and making him wear that heinous sweater to the party) and by Trudy ("I wish Pete could close a deal like this", or someting like thatRoger: ongoing by PeteLane: by his wife (making him go to the bar); by the rest of the partners (who think he can't close a business deal); by JoanKen: by his wife for making him writeBritish Jaguar dude: by his wife after finding the Juicy Fruit in his short hairsCooper: non-event in the officeI'm sure I missed some...

 

[zamboni]

And gotta love that an ad exec meeting took place and a hockey game broke out

 

[Wrighteous Ray]

Ken: by his wife for making him write

My impression is that Ken wants to write. He was just using his wife as an excuse.

 

[Christo]

Pete was totally and painfully emasculated throughout.

All the male characters were emasculated throughout, which was clearly the overriding theme.Pete: as we discussed

Don: by Megan (refusing to cancel on Trudy and making him wear that heinous sweater to the party) and by Trudy ("I wish Pete could close a deal like this", or someting like that

Roger: ongoing by Pete

Lane: by his wife (making him go to the bar); by the rest of the partners (who think he can't close a business deal); by Joan

Ken: by his wife for making him write

British Jaguar dude: by his wife after finding the Juicy Fruit in his short hairs

Cooper: non-event in the office

I'm sure I missed some...

I don't agree about Ken. He said he's written all of his life. He wants to write. He was using his wife as a shield.

 

[zamboni]

Pete was totally and painfully emasculated throughout.

All the male characters were emasculated throughout, which was clearly the overriding theme.Pete: as we discussed

Don: by Megan (refusing to cancel on Trudy and making him wear that heinous sweater to the party) and by Trudy ("I wish Pete could close a deal like this", or someting like that

Roger: ongoing by Pete

Lane: by his wife (making him go to the bar); by the rest of the partners (who think he can't close a business deal); by Joan

Ken: by his wife for making him write

British Jaguar dude: by his wife after finding the Juicy Fruit in his short hairs

Cooper: non-event in the office

I'm sure I missed some...

I don't agree about Ken. He said he's written all of his life. He wants to write. He was using his wife as a shield.

Fair enough - strike that one then.

 

[TinHat]

Pete was totally and painfully emasculated throughout.

All the male characters were emasculated throughout, which was clearly the overriding theme.Pete: as we discussed

Don: by Megan (refusing to cancel on Trudy and making him wear that heinous sweater to the party) and by Trudy ("I wish Pete could close a deal like this", or someting like that

Roger: ongoing by Pete

Lane: by his wife (making him go to the bar); by the rest of the partners (who think he can't close a business deal); by Joan

Ken: by his wife for making him write

British Jaguar dude: by his wife after finding the Juicy Fruit in his short hairs

Cooper: non-event in the office

I'm sure I missed some...

I don't agree about Ken. He said he's written all of his life. He wants to write. He was using his wife as a shield.

Fair enough - strike that one then.

Ken's wife revealing his secret despite his shyness about it

 

[Jaysus]

All the male characters were emasculated throughout, which was clearly the overriding theme.

Don: by Megan (refusing to cancel on Trudy and making him wear that heinous sweater* to the party) and by Trudy** ("I wish Pete could close a deal like this", or someting like that

* Sport coat ** Don said that to Trudy about Pete

 

[zamboni]

All the male characters were emasculated throughout, which was clearly the overriding theme.

Don: by Megan (refusing to cancel on Trudy and making him wear that heinous sweater* to the party) and by Trudy** ("I wish Pete could close a deal like this", or someting like that

* Sport coat ** Don said that to Trudy about Pete

Right - sport coat. Brain freeze.Yes, Don's quote was about Pete, but I meant more that he couldn't win the argument with Trudy about cancelling.

 

[The_Man]

Best line of the episode was Don's drink order at Pete's house: "Big and brown."

 

[trogg78]

Pete was totally and painfully emasculated throughout.

All the male characters were emasculated throughout, which was clearly the overriding theme.Pete: as we discussed

Don: by Megan (refusing to cancel on Trudy and making him wear that heinous sweater to the party) and by Trudy ("I wish Pete could close a deal like this", or someting like that

Roger: ongoing by Pete

Lane: by his wife (making him go to the bar); by the rest of the partners (who think he can't close a business deal); by Joan

Ken: by his wife for making him write

British Jaguar dude: by his wife after finding the Juicy Fruit in his short hairs

Cooper: non-event in the office

I'm sure I missed some...

I don't agree about Ken. He said he's written all of his life. He wants to write. He was using his wife as a shield.

Fair enough - strike that one then.

There's still Roger telling Ken to stop writing and focus on his work.

 

[saintfool]

Not only is the guy about to cheat on his wife with no seeming inner conflict, he's treating a human being like a piece of meat. That's dark, bro.

it's not the first time he's done this though. heck, it happens so often on the show with the other characters that one is kind of used to it.

 

[Marvin]

Next week on Mad Men (not a spoiler)

 

[jwb]

Next week on Mad Men (not a spoiler)

Yea, this show has the worst / most misleading "next week on..." that I've ever seen.

 

[Marvin]

Next week on Mad Men (not a spoiler)

Yea, this show has the worst / most misleading "next week on..." that I've ever seen.

"WHAT DID YOU DO!?!"

 

[jdoggydogg]

Not only is the guy about to cheat on his wife with no seeming inner conflict, he's treating a human being like a piece of meat. That's dark, bro.

it's not the first time he's done this though. heck, it happens so often on the show with the other characters that one is kind of used to it.

Certainly. And the casual flaunting of the vows of marriage is one of the reasons the show is so dark.

 

[TylerRoseFan]

Ok, finally caught up. I never watched an episode until about a month ago. Decided to give it a shot on netflix. Took me two days to watch season 1. Over the next two weeks I watched all of season 2-4. Caught 5:1-3 on demand. Had to wait a week to watch 5:4 because there's a week delay on-demand. Finally watched the 4 & 5 last night.

Holy #### this is by far the best thing on TV outside of sports. Even the bad episodes are better than anything else out there. I admit that I'm sad because I'm caught up and have to wait for each new episode live.

Overall impressions:

Don-I want to have his babies

Betty-I hate her

Joan-Very cool chick. She's hot and she knows it, but she's cool too

Peggy-Mixed emotions. She's talented and deserves success

Roger-Let me buy that guy a drink. Or let him buy me one. He's a good guy

Peter-Twerp

Lane-still undecided

Megan-Hot. Smart. Not sure if I like her or not

All the others...man they help round out this great show

 

[skillz]

So has the Connie Hilton angle run its course or is that going to resurface at some point?

Also I thought for sure Don would start doing anti-tobacco work with the American Cancer Society based on his letter in the NY Times and his meeting with the ACS reps at the end of Season 4. I thought the firm would be branded as an anti-tobacco agency and get work that way. Looks like that angle is never going to materialize.

Seems strange how the firm appears to be doing so well considering none of the partners had anything to say about new business last episode. The firm goes from being on life support after being dumped by American Tobacco and begging for a Heinz account at the end of Season 4 to coming back Season 5 and forging ahead like they are in the clear even though I don't see any new accounts really coming in the door this season. It all just doesn't add up. Maybe the firm's financial health becomes more of a focus as the season goes on.

I love it when they have an entire episode without Betty in it. Can't stand her.

 

[Apple Jack]

Connie "Up Your Butt Joeboo" Hilton?

 

[jwb]

So has the Connie Hilton angle run its course or is that going to resurface at some point?

Also I thought for sure Don would start doing anti-tobacco work with the American Cancer Society based on his letter in the NY Times and his meeting with the ACS reps at the end of Season 4. I thought the firm would be branded as an anti-tobacco agency and get work that way. Looks like that angle is never going to materialize.

Seems strange how the firm appears to be doing so well considering none of the partners had anything to say about new business last episode. The firm goes from being on life support after being dumped by American Tobacco and begging for a Heinz account at the end of Season 4 to coming back Season 5 and forging ahead like they are in the clear even though I don't see any new accounts really coming in the door this season. It all just doesn't add up. Maybe the firm's financial health becomes more of a focus as the season goes on.

I love it when they have an entire episode without Betty in it. Can't stand her.

The whole "firm on the brink" isn't very interesting, though. In a business like advertising, at that time, Don's reputation alone will bring in accounts (that's why losing him w/o a non-compete when they were bought out was unacceptable - bye Duck.) With the names on the door, and also having guys like Pete and Ken, I don't think it's a huge leap to just assume they are doing decently. I'd much rather see them trying for the big deals/accounts (which could not happen if they were struggling - nobody goes with an agency on the brink) than trying to keep the lights on.

 

[skillz]

Connie "Up Your Butt Joeboo" Hilton?

Yep, maybe they wrote him out sort of like when they killed off Daniel LaRusso's mom.

 

[identikit]

Connie "Up Your Butt Joeboo" Hilton?

Yep, maybe they wrote him out sort of like when they killed off Daniel LaRusso's mom.

On a related note, I wish Sal was back.

 

[jamny]

Took me two days to watch season 1. Over the next two weeks I watched all of season 2-4.

I couldn't do that. I like to let shows sink in a little before moving on. When I watch a new show on DVD, it usually takes me a couple of weeks to finish a season and then I wait a few weeks to move on to a new season. I'm never in a rush to blast through a quality show.

 

[Marvin]

Connie "Up Your Butt Joeboo" Hilton?

Yep, maybe they wrote him out sort of like when they killed off Daniel LaRusso's mom.

Yeah but IRL Hilton doesn't die until 1979.

 

[Raider Nation]

FYI: I'm Twitter pals with Alan Sepinwall.

 

[TylerRoseFan]

Connie "Up Your Butt Joeboo" Hilton?

Yep, maybe they wrote him out sort of like when they killed off Daniel LaRusso's mom.

On a related note, I wish Sal was back.

I liked Sal. He was class. I'm not sure how they'd write him back in.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Connie "Up Your Butt Joeboo" Hilton?

Yep, maybe they wrote him out sort of like when they killed off Daniel LaRusso's mom.

On a related note, I wish Sal was back.

I liked Sal. He was class. I'm not sure how they'd write him back in.

I'm sure they could find a way, and they should.

 

[jwb]

Connie "Up Your Butt Joeboo" Hilton?

Yep, maybe they wrote him out sort of like when they killed off Daniel LaRusso's mom.

On a related note, I wish Sal was back.

I liked Sal. He was class. I'm not sure how they'd write him back in.

I'm sure they could find a way, and they should.

I disagree. His story ended perfectly.

 

[badmojo1006]

Whoa

Bad Girl Peggy