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Raider Nation said:
Seppy is traveling.

Alan Sepinwall ‏@sepinwall

I won’t be seeing tonight’s Mad Men til tomorrow.
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Maybe Tanner can step in for him.
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“I always worried about you because you marched to the beat of your own drum. But now I know that’s good. I know your life will be an adventure.”

 
A shame Mad Men gonna be the show you bring up when you talk about botched last seasons/endings.

See kids you smoke and you'll get lung cancer. :rolleyes:

It's been brutal.

 
badmojo1006 said:
Capella said:
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MattFancy said:
Well, have no clue how this all gets wrapped up next week
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Agreed
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What is left? There will likely be some closure to Don. Roger? Maybe Peggy?

Pete and likely Betty wrapped up tonight. That's about it.
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It could be a total Don episode
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I mean it has to right? Feel like all the other characters' stories have been wrapped up except maybe Roger.

I have an idea for how it ends, just not sure how they'll get there.

 
MattFancy said:
badmojo1006 said:
Capella said:
badmojo1006 said:
MattFancy said:
Well, have no clue how this all gets wrapped up next week
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Agreed
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What is left? There will likely be some closure to Don. Roger? Maybe Peggy?

Pete and likely Betty wrapped up tonight. That's about it.
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It could be a total Don episode
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I mean it has to right? Feel like all the other characters' stories have been wrapped up except maybe Roger.

I have an idea for how it ends, just not sure how they'll get there.
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To tie up another loose end....

An episode devoted to Don wandering America with (miraculously found) Duck Phillips' dog

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I think the saddest ending of them all would be the last shot showing Don on the elevator on how way back up to McCann.

 
Reflecting back on last night, maybe I was a little harsh. Maybe in time I'll reflect back on it like the finale to the Sopranos and be okay with what I just watched. My initial reaction though considering where we're at in the story and how much time in the series remains, is that last night's episode was possibly the worst in the entire series.

First of all you spent half of the evening with Betty who is most likely the worst character in the show. She's only ever been interesting when Don was around and even then, she's a wet blanket. I bet her screen time last night was more than her cumulative time in the past two seasons.

Second of all, Pete. Pete has spent a decade being Pete, but a few interviews set up by drunk Duck and now he's a subject in a Norman Rockwell painting ready to be a family man in middle America? Also Trudy took him back? I really don't know what to say here.

Finally, Don. Not like good Don or even Don searching for much. We get bored Don. That portion of the story was carried by a couple that owns a motel. I "get" what Weiner was trying to do and how it shows the lessons Don has learned (and passes on to the kid who stole the cash), but who cares? Also, has hiding the fact that he's **** Whitman ever really been a problem for him? He's made millions, banged anyone he wanted, and pretty much lived the dream so it's a bit misleading to act like his entire life as Don has sucked.

 
bigmarc27 said:
Reflecting back on last night, maybe I was a little harsh. Maybe in time I'll reflect back on it like the finale to the Sopranos and be okay with what I just watched. My initial reaction though considering where we're at in the story and how much time in the series remains, is that last night's episode was possibly the worst in the entire series.

First of all you spent half of the evening with Betty who is most likely the worst character in the show. She's only ever been interesting when Don was around and even then, she's a wet blanket. I bet her screen time last night was more than her cumulative time in the past two seasons.

Second of all, Pete. Pete has spent a decade being Pete, but a few interviews set up by drunk Duck and now he's a subject in a Norman Rockwell painting ready to be a family man in middle America? Also Trudy took him back? I really don't know what to say here.

Finally, Don. Not like good Don or even Don searching for much. We get bored Don. That portion of the story was carried by a couple that owns a motel. I "get" what Weiner was trying to do and how it shows the lessons Don has learned (and passes on to the kid who stole the cash), but who cares? Also, has hiding the fact that he's **** Whitman ever really been a problem for him? He's made millions, banged anyone he wanted, and pretty much lived the dream so it's a bit misleading to act like his entire life as Don has sucked.
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This would have been a bad episode in the middle of the series. For this to be next to last makes it an abomination. It was a cheap Days of our Lives knock off.

 
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bigmarc27 said:
Reflecting back on last night, maybe I was a little harsh. Maybe in time I'll reflect back on it like the finale to the Sopranos and be okay with what I just watched. My initial reaction though considering where we're at in the story and how much time in the series remains, is that last night's episode was possibly the worst in the entire series.

First of all you spent half of the evening with Betty who is most likely the worst character in the show. She's only ever been interesting when Don was around and even then, she's a wet blanket. I bet her screen time last night was more than her cumulative time in the past two seasons.

Second of all, Pete. Pete has spent a decade being Pete, but a few interviews set up by drunk Duck and now he's a subject in a Norman Rockwell painting ready to be a family man in middle America? Also Trudy took him back? I really don't know what to say here.

Finally, Don. Not like good Don or even Don searching for much. We get bored Don. That portion of the story was carried by a couple that owns a motel. I "get" what Weiner was trying to do and how it shows the lessons Don has learned (and passes on to the kid who stole the cash), but who cares? Also, has hiding the fact that he's **** Whitman ever really been a problem for him? He's made millions, banged anyone he wanted, and pretty much lived the dream so it's a bit misleading to act like his entire life as Don has sucked.
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Not to defend the episode since I thought much of it was a waste, but Pete's always wanted to be that Rockwell painting (plus Weiner's been planting the seeds that Trudy wanted him back for awhile now) and Don knows he got lucky that being Don was never a problem for him.

I'd also say the Betty part was less about Betty's "conclusion" and more about Sally becoming a woman.

About the only thing that hasn't been "wrapped" up is Don's relationships with Sally and Peggy, right? That would mean he has to go back to NY in some manner. I just hope they skip ahead a bit and avoid the Betty dying/funeral scenes.

 
I think the Betty storyline is less about Betty's death, and more about how much Don's life is about to change. Betty almost seems to be relieved to be dying.

But while Sally is kind of independent at this point, Bobby and Gene are two young kids. Doubtful that Henry Francis is going to be a full-time dad to kids that aren't even his, which means Don's days of wandering the countryside and doing whatever he wants whenever he wants may be coming to an abrupt end.

 
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I think the Betty storyline is less about Betty's death, and more about how much Don's life is about to change. Betty almost seems to be relieved to be dying.

But while Sally is kind of independent at this point, Bobby and Gene are two young kids. Doubtful that Henry Francis is going to be a full-time dad to kids that aren't even his, which means Don's days of wandering the countryside and doing whatever he wants whenever he wants may be coming to an abrupt end.
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This was my takeaway also. I though it was is a very big curve ball, because it takes off the table any endings about Don not coming back.

 
Mystery Achiever said:
Michael Brown said:
I think the Betty storyline is less about Betty's death, and more about how much Don's life is about to change. Betty almost seems to be relieved to be dying.

But while Sally is kind of independent at this point, Bobby and Gene are two young kids. Doubtful that Henry Francis is going to be a full-time dad to kids that aren't even his, which means Don's days of wandering the countryside and doing whatever he wants whenever he wants may be coming to an abrupt end.
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This was my takeaway also. I though it was is a very big curve ball, because it takes off the table any endings about Don not coming back.
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No, remember this is Don Draper we are talking about.He does care about the kids, but he disappears all the time. He has big trouble with responsibility.

 
badmojo1006 said:
No, remember this is Don Draper we are talking about.He does care about the kids, but he disappears all the time. He has big trouble with responsibility.
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I know, but it would be surprising - and, to me, unfinished- if the series ended without reuniting with the kids somehow. Whether it is coming back permanently or taking them with him on a new adventure, which would be my guess. Maybe even with the last name Whitman.

 
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pantherclub said:
bigmarc27 said:
Reflecting back on last night, maybe I was a little harsh. Maybe in time I'll reflect back on it like the finale to the Sopranos and be okay with what I just watched. My initial reaction though considering where we're at in the story and how much time in the series remains, is that last night's episode was possibly the worst in the entire series.

First of all you spent half of the evening with Betty who is most likely the worst character in the show. She's only ever been interesting when Don was around and even then, she's a wet blanket. I bet her screen time last night was more than her cumulative time in the past two seasons.

Second of all, Pete. Pete has spent a decade being Pete, but a few interviews set up by drunk Duck and now he's a subject in a Norman Rockwell painting ready to be a family man in middle America? Also Trudy took him back? I really don't know what to say here.

Finally, Don. Not like good Don or even Don searching for much. We get bored Don. That portion of the story was carried by a couple that owns a motel. I "get" what Weiner was trying to do and how it shows the lessons Don has learned (and passes on to the kid who stole the cash), but who cares? Also, has hiding the fact that he's **** Whitman ever really been a problem for him? He's made millions, banged anyone he wanted, and pretty much lived the dream so it's a bit misleading to act like his entire life as Don has sucked.
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This would have been a bad episode in the middle of the series. For this to be next to last makes it an abomination. It was a cheap Days of our Lives knock off.
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Maybe you should to watch The Wiggles

 
I liked it.

I think it's realistic to show someone dying young from smoking.

Pete came full circle. He wanted to be like Don. He even tried to be like Don. He found it was empty. He was also probably the best managerial guy there in terms of work talent. Good for him.

I still don't quite get Don's little trip, but I'm guessing the next phone call home ends that, anyway.

 
Officer Pete Malloy said:
Ray Karpis said:
Any chance the next episode is post-Betty's death?
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I hate making predictions but Don moving his 3 kids to California or something like that wouldn't be too crazy.
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I expect something along these lines. VERY unlikely that he's going to let Henry keep his kids.

He'll gather them up and go...somewhere. California may not be it, but it won't be New York. Could even be overseas. "I want to go to Spain.", etc, etc.

 
spinoff time

Best Little Full House in New York - After the sudden death of his ex-wife, a young father (Jon Hamm as Don/****) enlists the help of the stepfather (Christopher Stanley as Henry) and his friend (John Slattery as Roger) to help him raise his three young children while running a brothel.

 
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I definitely seem to be in the minority but I really enjoyed this episode. I liked the finality of Betty's storyline and enjoyed her having some form of bonding with Sally. Although Sally couldn't resist taking a well-aimed shot at Betty.

If there's a character on this show who could get a spinoff it would be Sally in my opinion. The little girl who plays her has become a damn good actress.

I also liked Don and Sally bonding and her being (at least as far as we know) the only one who knows that Don has gone all on the road again. The Pete storyline worked for me because I thought it showed a maturation of his character in deciding to try and settle down and be more responsible.

I still think all of Don's wandering is leading us to something. I trust in Weiner to deliver on that. Plus it was a big character moment for Don to admit what happened in Korea even if he wisely didn't reveal all the details. The episode also referenced shifting identities from the opening dream sequence to Don telling the con kid how tough it will be to become a new person to Don basically giving him that opportunity at the end with the gift of his car. So I think Don removing the Don Draper persona for good is still very much in play. You could already make an argument he shed that skin the second he walked out of the meeting at McCann and has been transitioning back to being **** Whitman ever since.

Sucks there's little over an hour left of this show.

 
Some peopleon reddit noticed some pretty good parallels between this last episode and "The Hobo Code" (S1E8)

He starts out the episode coming into the motel, hungry. He asks "Do you know where I can get a meal?"

The lady of the "house" treats him well, and he responds in kind, by doing work to help her out, just like the hobo that came to the Whitman house. And just like the hobo, Don gets completely screwed over by the man of the house.

I'd imagine had Don looked at the gate post outside the motel, he'd have found the hook symbol, telling him that a crooked man lived there.
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The change he gets from the man of the house is a 2 dimes and a nickel--25 cents/a quarter-- just like that hobo was promised he would get after doing work.
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There were so many similarities. The hobo was from New York, his work/past jobs were not considered proper work, the hobo worked on the farm in exchange for a place to stay/meal (fixing the soda machine and attending the legion), the hobo shared his worldy advice with a kid (Don), hobo had a wife, kids, mortgage but couldn't sleep at night. He says he "one day he freed himself with nothing but the clothes on his back". Don just did this. The hobo says he is a "gentleman of the rails, new place, new people every night" which is exactly what Don is doing. In fact, at this point Don has no car, no house.
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Interesting.

Here's the last paragraph of the book "The Milk and Honey Route":

The road the real hobo follows is never ending. It is always heading into the sunset of promise but it never fully keeps its promise. Thus the road the hobo roams always beckons him on, much as does the undealt card in a game of stud. Every new bend of the road is disillusioning but never disappointing, so that once you get the spirit of the hobo you never reach the stone wall of utter disillusionment. You follow on hopefully from one bend of the road to another, until in the end you step off the cliff.

 
Officer Pete Malloy said:
Some peopleon reddit noticed some pretty good parallels between this last episode and "The Hobo Code" (S1E8)

He starts out the episode coming into the motel, hungry. He asks "Do you know where I can get a meal?"

The lady of the "house" treats him well, and he responds in kind, by doing work to help her out, just like the hobo that came to the Whitman house. And just like the hobo, Don gets completely screwed over by the man of the house.

I'd imagine had Don looked at the gate post outside the motel, he'd have found the hook symbol, telling him that a crooked man lived there.
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The change he gets from the man of the house is a 2 dimes and a nickel--25 cents/a quarter-- just like that hobo was promised he would get after doing work.
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There were so many similarities. The hobo was from New York, his work/past jobs were not considered proper work, the hobo worked on the farm in exchange for a place to stay/meal (fixing the soda machine and attending the legion), the hobo shared his worldy advice with a kid (Don), hobo had a wife, kids, mortgage but couldn't sleep at night. He says he "one day he freed himself with nothing but the clothes on his back". Don just did this. The hobo says he is a "gentleman of the rails, new place, new people every night" which is exactly what Don is doing. In fact, at this point Don has no car, no house.
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Good stuff. If this is all connected - and it seems likely it is given all the connections made above - then it makes me feel even more confident that Weiner is leading us to something with Don. This isn't just random roamings around the country. It's all being done to take us to some form of ending for his character that Weiner has mapped out.

 
"Mad Men" has chronicled a period of enormous social change (and taken place in a time of enormous change in television), yet it's often seemed agnostic on whether individual change is possible. Over the course of the series, fashions changed and opportunities rose for women and minorities, but were the "Mad Men" characters themselves really changing with the times? Peggy has certainly grown, yet we've seen Don and Roger and Joan and others have epiphany after epiphany, only to eventually lean back on their old habits. (And even Peggy hasn't been immune to backsliding in her personal life, even as she's evolved professionally.) If anything, Don's frequent backsliding has been one of the most common complaints I've heard about the series' second half; the more recent seasons have been more complex and stylistically ambitious, but too many people seemed tired of watching Don make the same damn mistakes year after year.Man's struggle to change his fundamental nature is a familiar theme of literature, and television — including everything from Matthew Weiner's previous gig at "The Sopranos" to something more traditional like "House" — and if "Mad Men" were to ultimately turn out to be a series about a group of people unable to transform even as the world around them was doing nothing but, it would seem a reasonable approach to the era.

But this final half-season — in particular in a spectacular episode like "The Milk and Honey Route" — has revealed that Weiner's intention is more complicated than that. He's showing us how even as patterns repeat in our lives, his characters genuinely are able to learn from their personal history and do something different the next time.

Take Betty, whose story is the most tragic of the episode's three, yet somehow as optimistic as the other two. After a fall on the way to one of her psychology classes, she's diagnosed with advanced, incurable lung cancer(*), which could maybe give her a year to live. When the series began, Betty was still reeling from her mother's death from cancer; a few years later, when her father tried preparing her for his own death, she whined, "I'm your little girl" and asked him to keep all of this to himself. Here, she has the most mature response to the terrible news of anyone. Where Henry rages, then cries(**), while Sally tries to cover her ears to it all — she is, again, her mother's daughter, however much it would pain her to acknowledge that — Betty recognizes the futility of doing anything but simply going on with her life, in however much time it has left. Now she's the dying parent giving her child instructions for the arrangements, and she can articulate to Sally exactly why she's acting this way: not (as Henry suggests) out of vanity or stubbornness, nor (as Sally suggests) because she's forever a drama queen, but simply because she's become wise enough to recognize what can be fought and what can't, and to appreciate the gift she got of nearly 40 years on this Earth and as mother to these kids.

(*) Terminal cancer is a pattern that repeats itself in Don Draper's life as well, since Betty joins Anna and Rachel Menken as women he loved who have suffered from it.

(**) "Mad Men" hasn't generally asked Christopher Stanley to do more than seem confident and stable, but his performance as Henry broke down in Sally's dorm room — letting the enormity of his impending loss finally consume him — was wonderful.

Weiner's giving Betty a sad ending, but also a kind one. She's long been the most divisive "Mad Men" character, and there have been plenty of times over the years where it was easy to take the side of Don (even though his behavior in the marriage was unforgivable) or Sally (who has acted the spoiled brat as well) against her. Similarly, it's often seemed easy to blame January Jones' performance for the stilted way Betty often speaks and acts. But in episodes like this one, or last week's Don/Betty kitchen scene, we've been reminded that both the woman and the actress who play her are more complicated and capable than either has been given credit for. Betty's story ends next week no matter what, so her death is essentially no different than the happier fate Weiner assigns to Pete in this episode — if we get a glimpse of Pete and Trudy in Wichita, it'll be brief at best, and then they'll be gone from our lives as well — and she gets to exit putting her very best self on display. To quote another "Mad Men" character who died very well, bravo.

Pete's story is also loaded with nods to moments in history that can't be altered, even as it promises a future that may be genuinely different. Duck returns, again drunk, again helping an ad agency find a replacement for Don Draper, and again meddling in Pete's career in a way that Pete didn't ask for. But where Pete has so often been the boy who wanted everything, then wasn't happy enough when he got it, the offer from Learjet finally lets him recognize how happy he should have been — and still could be — with Trudy and Tammy, and gives him a chance to have everything he's ever wanted and finally appreciate it for once. He can't undo the things he did to hurt Trudy — the cheating, ratting out her father for sleeping with prostitutes — but we've seen him grow and mature in the time since she kicked him out of the house in Cos Cobb.

There have been times when Pete's best self was only on display for Peggy to see — though he treated her awfully much of the time, that he saw something in Peggy (and vice versa) was Pete's most redeeming feature early in the series — but his conversations with his brother Bud and then with Trudy present a Peter Campbell who finally understands what matters in his life and what doesn't. Pete and Trudy are older and smarter, and if there can never be the pure innocence from the early days of their marriage (which, given Peggy, was never really innocent on his part), a version of their partnership that both enter into with eyes wide open seems like it would be far more satisfying for all involved. Back when he was the creep who resented Don and tried to crush Peggy's spirit, it was hard to imagine wanting Pete to end the series so well, yet here we are, and it absolutely works.

As for Don, this hobo journey across the heartland could feel like a rehash of runaway stunts he's done before, but it doesn't. He has no intention of returning to McCann, or to advertising. (When Andy from the motel asks how Don made his fortune, he says — past tense — "I was in the advertising business.") He's still communicating with the kids, but for once he isn't so much running away from something as running towards something, even if he has no idea what that may be.

The episode opens with Don having a nightmare about the cops finally catching up to him for one of his past sins, and when he winds up at an American Legion hall, it seems for a moment like he'll be busted for the original sin of stealing the real Don Draper's identity. Instead, the only other veteran of his war came to Korea long after the ####/Don switcheroo, and as the evening passes, the drinks flow, and the other vets tell stories of shameful things they did Over There, Don finally finds the courage to tell part of the story. He leaves out the identity theft, but Anna Draper long ago absolved him of that part, and the other veterans here do the same for the accident that killed the real Draper.

Yet his time among the veterans of Alva, Oklahoma ends unhappily, because Don gets blamed for the crime of a desperate young hustler very much in the mold of the #### Whitman who went to Korea to escape the whorehouse. Having given up or simply lost so many of the trappings of the life he stole — the wives, the apartment, the career — Don's able to finally recognize how fundamentally rotten his existence has been since that moment. He can't go back in time to avoid switching the dog tags (much less to avoid dropping the lighter), but he can prevent a younger version of himself from making the same mistake, in part by giving Andy the car, and thus divesting himself of yet another symbol of his old life. He lets Andy escape without having to give up himself in the way that **** Whitman once did.

And now that he's been relieved of the weight of Don Draper's death, as well as his apartment, job, car, and anything else besides that bag from Sears (plus whatever money he has left after giving so much away to Megan and Jim Hobart), maybe he can finally see himself and his life clearly enough to figure out what he wants to do next. He's never been a particularly good father, but since he's still calling Sally and the boys, maybe learning of Betty's illness will let him recognize that this is the part of his life he can still make right. Or maybe he'll decide that the kids are better off with Henry, and the series will end with him disappearing into a life we won't get to see, but that he hopes will be more fulfilling than the one we've watched.

As happened last week with the gradual dismantling of the SC&P office, "The Milk and Honey Route" had the air of a show knowing that the end of getting damn near. Betty tells Sally about how she's learned to believe people when they say it's over. The lights turn off prematurely while Pete is enjoying some of the pie Tammy made for him, just as the TV in Don's room blacks out while he's in the middle of watching it. And this entire half-season has systematically stripped away everything that once seemed to matter to Don.

That leaves us in a very interesting position as we approach Sunday's series finale. You could argue that the story every character but Don has already wrapped up, sometimes well (Pete gets a dream job and his family back), sometimes badly (Betty will die of cancer, Joan gets forced out of the job she loves), sometimes ambiguously (Peggy may walk all over those jerks at McCann, or they may grind her into paste), but we're at a point where if the finale didn't feature anyone from the agency — or even Sally or Betty or anyone from Don's family — I wouldn't feel cheated out of a proper ending for them. (In Peggy's case, that final image of her with the sunglasses and cigarette was so perfect that I'm almost afraid to return to the reality of her life at McCann, even though I wish we could have one last Don/Peggy scene.) But would Weiner actually do a finale that was only Don?

The "Mad Men" opening credits present a silhouette of Don in his office before the wall, the floors and all the other accoutrements are stripped away, sending him falling through the air and past all these symbols of his career in advertising. The sequence ends, though, with him seated safely and confidently in a chair, still clad in his power suit, a cigarette still dangling from his finger. He loses everything, and falls, yet winds up in seemingly the same place as before. I don't expect or require Weiner to show extreme fidelity to that piece of animation, but given how this season has played out, I wonder if this all ends with Don living some new version of his life that's only slightly different from the one he walked away from, or if he turns into someone very much apart from that guy in the suit. A few years ago, I might have assumed that Don would always be Don. Lately, though, "Mad Men" has been suggesting hope for something else

Some other thoughts:

* Don quits McCann, but he still gets to work with Coca-Cola! Given how at peace he seemed in "The Mountain King" when he was talking cars with the California gearhead, and how much this episode worked to remind us that Don is good with tools, I wonder if his future might involve something more mechanical in nature.

* The episode's title is taken from a familiar phrase from hobo lore (it was even used as the name of a 1931 book on the subject) referring to railroad lines that offered better food options for men on the move.

* An impressive collection of Hey, It's That Guy!s at the American Legion hall, starting with Chris Ellis as Don's guide for the night, Larry Cedar from "Deadwood" as Wayne, Max Gail (Wojo from "Barney Miller") as Floyd, and David Denman (Roy from "The Office") as Jerry.

* Guest-casting that may interest only me: Carter Jenkins, who played Andy, has been acting since he was a kid, including one of the lead roles on NBC's short-lived "Lost" knock-off "Surface," which also starred "Mad Men"s own Jay R. Ferguson, plus Lake Bell. Does this mean that Bell will be in the "Mad Men" finale? Also, the exec from Lear Jet was played by Currie Graham, who was Sipowicz's boss in the final season of "NYPD Blue."

* "Mad Men" in pop culture: The episode opens with Don (in his dream) listening to Merle Haggard's "Okie From Muskogee" and closes with Buddy Holly's "Everyday." Meanwhile, Don's motel reading options include two recent novels in Mario Puzo's "The Godfather" and Michael Crichton's "The Andromeda Strain," plus an older one in James A. Michener's "Hawaii," which would have been much more in demand back when the series was starting. And on TV, Don watches a Redd Foxx appearance on an early episode of "The Flip Wilson Show" (which would place the episode in October of 1970), while Pete is watching "Mannix."

* Don warns Sally that she doesn't understand money, yet we've seen him just give up millions of dollars in pretty cavalier fashion this season.

* Pete's brother is popular with the ladies? Who knew?
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MattFancy said:
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Anybody think the ending advances forward to see an older Don?
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I feel like just about anything is in play next week
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Based on some of the recent comments, I think the ideal scenario for some of the posters here would be to have Don, Roger, Peter and Peggy squaring off against Ultron in one final battle to save the world.
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This has got some potential but where does DB Cooper fit in?

 
Whether Betty's gone in the next episode or not, I think it's almost immaterial, as the central conflict of the series finale is going to be between Don continuing to flee and shed off his old life (again), and the pull of his family to come back and be a father. Sally's fairly autonomous by now, but she's going to need emotional support beyond phone calls. Does he pass them off to Henry? Does he come back? Move the kids out to CA and settle down?

I know there's no gigantic 700 foot killer robot, but this does seem like they've set up a potential tipping point/crossroads for this character to culminate the series. And I think the concerns earlier that there'd be no resolution or finality or tied up loose ends have been allayed for the most part.

 
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Based on some of the recent comments, I think the ideal scenario for some of the posters here would be to have Don, Roger, Peter and Peggy squaring off against Ultron in one final battle to save the world.
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He'd be portraying Ultron.

 
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Good Posting Judge said:
Whether Betty's gone in the next episode or not, I think it's almost immaterial, as the central conflict of the series finale is going to be between Don continuing to flee and shed off his old life (again), and the pull of his family to come back and be a father. Sally's fairly autonomous by now, but she's going to need emotional support beyond phone calls. Does he pass them off to Henry? Does he come back? Move the kids out to CA and settle down?

I know there's no gigantic 700 foot killer robot, but this does seem like they've set up a potential tipping point/crossroads for this character to culminate the series. And I think the concerns earlier that there'd be no resolution or finality or tied up loose ends have been allayed for the most part.
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Don and the ghost of Bert Cooper move into an all-female apartment building. They are forced to cross-dress to live there.

 
Officer Pete Malloy said:
Good Posting Judge said:
Whether Betty's gone in the next episode or not, I think it's almost immaterial, as the central conflict of the series finale is going to be between Don continuing to flee and shed off his old life (again), and the pull of his family to come back and be a father. Sally's fairly autonomous by now, but she's going to need emotional support beyond phone calls. Does he pass them off to Henry? Does he come back? Move the kids out to CA and settle down?

I know there's no gigantic 700 foot killer robot, but this does seem like they've set up a potential tipping point/crossroads for this character to culminate the series. And I think the concerns earlier that there'd be no resolution or finality or tied up loose ends have been allayed for the most part.
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Don and the ghost of Bert Cooper move into an all-female apartment building. They are forced to cross-dress to live there.
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Don takes the kids to Santa Monica. Upon running out of money they are forced into cohabitation with two young ladies in a small apartment in an effort to split bills. To assuage the uber-conservative/nosy super, Don pretends to be a homosexual. Bert Cooper's ghost guest-stars as an aging swinger with a taste for cephalopod pornography that moves in downstairs.

 
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5-ish Finkle said:
Officer Pete Malloy said:
Good Posting Judge said:
Whether Betty's gone in the next episode or not, I think it's almost immaterial, as the central conflict of the series finale is going to be between Don continuing to flee and shed off his old life (again), and the pull of his family to come back and be a father. Sally's fairly autonomous by now, but she's going to need emotional support beyond phone calls. Does he pass them off to Henry? Does he come back? Move the kids out to CA and settle down?

I know there's no gigantic 700 foot killer robot, but this does seem like they've set up a potential tipping point/crossroads for this character to culminate the series. And I think the concerns earlier that there'd be no resolution or finality or tied up loose ends have been allayed for the most part.
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Don and the ghost of Bert Cooper move into an all-female apartment building. They are forced to cross-dress to live there.
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Don takes the kids to Santa Monica. Upon running out of money they are forced into cohabitation with two young ladies in a small apartment in an effort to split bills. To assuage the uber-conservative/nosy super, Don pretends to be a homosexual. Bert Cooper's ghost guest-stars as an aging swinger with a taste for cephalopod pornography that moves in downstairs.
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:lmao:

 
Don buys a motorcycle. The cops have found out he's a deserter and are on his tail, for real this time. He's making his escape, and instead of trying to run any further, he turns into the path of an oncoming Coca-Cola truck. We see a green-screen shot of him in JC pose, screeching tires, and then we just see a stream of Coca-Cola along the side of the road, which a couple of crows start drinking.

 
Good Posting Judge said:
Don buys a motorcycle. The cops have found out he's a deserter and are on his tail, for real this time. He's making his escape, and instead of trying to run any further, he turns into the path of an oncoming Coca-Cola truck. We see a green-screen shot of him in JC pose, screeching tires, and then we just see a stream of Coca-Cola along the side of the road, which a couple of crows start drinking.
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Now we know the rumors of the extra runtime are true.

 
Good Posting Judge said:
Don buys a motorcycle. The cops have found out he's a deserter and are on his tail, for real this time. He's making his escape, and instead of trying to run any further, he turns into the path of an oncoming Coca-Cola truck. We see a green-screen shot of him in JC pose, screeching tires, and then we just see a stream of Coca-Cola along the side of the road, which a couple of crows start drinking.
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Brian Batt (Sal Romano) in cameo as the truck driver.

 
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