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Ummm...I think what he was saying was that he hopes Don doesnt come back and just drop right back into his old life, because he disliked the wife.And I kind of agree with that.
Hopes? It was a definitive statement, not one of hope.And he didn't mention Don's wife. Just the other guys at the ad agency.
Yeah, they mentioned this in an earlier episode.
Why do you think that. Obviously if he truely is reborn he won't be the womanizer he was before but other than that everything else should be the same for him
The one where he kicked Chauncey out the front door of the office and on to the streets of Manhattan to fend for himself. Like the dog was Otis or something.
It's possible that they do that but then you're talking about having two seperate shows into one hour. Half of it would dedicated to **** whitman and the other half to the ad agency and IMO that doesn't work.It's like with the show "chuck", he works at an electronics store called Buy More and last season he was there a lot and the show worked well but this year he's off doing his spy stuff and we're getting completely separate story lines about what's going on at the buy more and a number of ppl don't like it
That was a great moment - esp. after he feigned surprise over being picked as president.Didn't know this season was ending already.Duck =
Duck =
Pete too.Duck =
and the telephone operator.Pete too.Duck =
That was some great acting by the girl who plays Peggy. The breathing and the nervousness felt very real.Pete too.Duck =
She's on Broadway now in Speed The Plow.
I think by Pete coming into Draper's office after Draper told him "he is ready" their relationship is fine. Remember their problems stemmed from Pete not being ready and expecting things to be handed to him. You can see in Pete's character that he is way different this last part of the season than the first part of last season.Draper won't work for Duck, that's pretty clear but remember Draper doesn't have a contract so he could go elsewhere or have a deal where he doesn't have to listen to Duck.The one thing I don't want to see this show go is in the direction where Draper goes back to his wife. So much crap has happened and perhaps he "got it" when the waves were hitting him in CALI but I would rather see his character grow in another direction. If he goes back to his wife and starts cheating again, then what?Just an awesome season finale.I don't know if they fired Duck, but clearly Draper will not be working for Pete and Duck. Since I assume there's no way Draper would stand for that, I have to assume that Draper's either the new President or that Draper will stay because Duck was fired.I wish I could have heard that conversation once they asked Duck to leave the room
The bad blood might be over, but it wasn't jsut Pete's immaturity. Pete tried to blackmail Draper about his identity.I think by Pete coming into Draper's office after Draper told him "he is ready" their relationship is fine. Remember their problems stemmed from Pete not being ready and expecting things to be handed to him. You can see in Pete's character that he is way different this last part of the season than the first part of last season.Draper won't work for Duck, that's pretty clear but remember Draper doesn't have a contract so he could go elsewhere or have a deal where he doesn't have to listen to Duck.Just an awesome season finale.
I don't know if they fired Duck, but clearly Draper will not be working for Pete and Duck. Since I assume there's no way Draper would stand for that, I have to assume that Draper's either the new President or that Draper will stay because Duck was fired.
I wish I could have heard that conversation once they asked Duck to leave the room
The one thing I don't want to see this show go is in the direction where Draper goes back to his wife. So much crap has happened and perhaps he "got it" when the waves were hitting him in CALI but I would rather see his character grow in another direction. If he goes back to his wife and starts cheating again, then what?
He was doing that because he didn't like the fact that Draper was probably the first person in his life who told him "no". He's a totally different person with Draper then and now. Notice there wasn't any bad blood between them in LA? Draper deep down knew he had what it took but was a spoiled rich kid. The old Pete would have not said anything to Draper and looking forward to getting back at him but now he gives him a heads up.The bad blood might be over, but it wasn't jsut Pete's immaturity. Pete tried to blackmail Draper about his identity.I think by Pete coming into Draper's office after Draper told him "he is ready" their relationship is fine. Remember their problems stemmed from Pete not being ready and expecting things to be handed to him. You can see in Pete's character that he is way different this last part of the season than the first part of last season.Draper won't work for Duck, that's pretty clear but remember Draper doesn't have a contract so he could go elsewhere or have a deal where he doesn't have to listen to Duck.Just an awesome season finale.
I don't know if they fired Duck, but clearly Draper will not be working for Pete and Duck. Since I assume there's no way Draper would stand for that, I have to assume that Draper's either the new President or that Draper will stay because Duck was fired.
I wish I could have heard that conversation once they asked Duck to leave the room
The one thing I don't want to see this show go is in the direction where Draper goes back to his wife. So much crap has happened and perhaps he "got it" when the waves were hitting him in CALI but I would rather see his character grow in another direction. If he goes back to his wife and starts cheating again, then what?
I don't think **** starts cheating again. We witnessed his "cleansing" last week.I think by Pete coming into Draper's office after Draper told him "he is ready" their relationship is fine. Remember their problems stemmed from Pete not being ready and expecting things to be handed to him. You can see in Pete's character that he is way different this last part of the season than the first part of last season.Draper won't work for Duck, that's pretty clear but remember Draper doesn't have a contract so he could go elsewhere or have a deal where he doesn't have to listen to Duck.The one thing I don't want to see this show go is in the direction where Draper goes back to his wife. So much crap has happened and perhaps he "got it" when the waves were hitting him in CALI but I would rather see his character grow in another direction. If he goes back to his wife and starts cheating again, then what?Just an awesome season finale.I don't know if they fired Duck, but clearly Draper will not be working for Pete and Duck. Since I assume there's no way Draper would stand for that, I have to assume that Draper's either the new President or that Draper will stay because Duck was fired.I wish I could have heard that conversation once they asked Duck to leave the room
I agree.He was doing that because he didn't like the fact that Draper was probably the first person in his life who told him "no". He's a totally different person with Draper then and now. Notice there wasn't any bad blood between them in LA? Draper deep down knew he had what it took but was a spoiled rich kid. The old Pete would have not said anything to Draper and looking forward to getting back at him but now he gives him a heads up.The bad blood might be over, but it wasn't jsut Pete's immaturity. Pete tried to blackmail Draper about his identity.I think by Pete coming into Draper's office after Draper told him "he is ready" their relationship is fine. Remember their problems stemmed from Pete not being ready and expecting things to be handed to him. You can see in Pete's character that he is way different this last part of the season than the first part of last season.Draper won't work for Duck, that's pretty clear but remember Draper doesn't have a contract so he could go elsewhere or have a deal where he doesn't have to listen to Duck.Just an awesome season finale.
I don't know if they fired Duck, but clearly Draper will not be working for Pete and Duck. Since I assume there's no way Draper would stand for that, I have to assume that Draper's either the new President or that Draper will stay because Duck was fired.
I wish I could have heard that conversation once they asked Duck to leave the room
The one thing I don't want to see this show go is in the direction where Draper goes back to his wife. So much crap has happened and perhaps he "got it" when the waves were hitting him in CALI but I would rather see his character grow in another direction. If he goes back to his wife and starts cheating again, then what?
Do you honestly feel like he is dying to get back with Betty? Yea, he wrote the letter but I dunno I just don't feel like he really wants to get back with her.Christo said:I don't think **** starts cheating again. We witnessed his "cleansing" last week.Walton Goggins said:I think by Pete coming into Draper's office after Draper told him "he is ready" their relationship is fine. Remember their problems stemmed from Pete not being ready and expecting things to be handed to him. You can see in Pete's character that he is way different this last part of the season than the first part of last season.Draper won't work for Duck, that's pretty clear but remember Draper doesn't have a contract so he could go elsewhere or have a deal where he doesn't have to listen to Duck.The one thing I don't want to see this show go is in the direction where Draper goes back to his wife. So much crap has happened and perhaps he "got it" when the waves were hitting him in CALI but I would rather see his character grow in another direction. If he goes back to his wife and starts cheating again, then what?jdoggydogg said:Just an awesome season finale.I don't know if they fired Duck, but clearly Draper will not be working for Pete and Duck. Since I assume there's no way Draper would stand for that, I have to assume that Draper's either the new President or that Draper will stay because Duck was fired.I wish I could have heard that conversation once they asked Duck to leave the room
IMO the best one of the season although I didn't see the anne hathaway one which a number of ppl seem to loveNice season finale although I was hoping to see joan's rapist fiance get his ### kicked. Also I hope betty's baby isn't don's. BTW what peggy did was messed up. It sucks to find out that the girl you love doesn't love you back. It sucks to find out a girl you got pregnant never told you about it and just gives the baby up for adoption. But to find out both at the same time? Man, that's harshChristo said:
Sam Quentin said:
It's Pete's which she told him after he told her he should have picked her.
That's Peggy, not Betty...Don's wife.
I think once she got the office from the Popsicle account she is no longer insecure and he's married so she no longer wants to be with him. She hasn't even looked in his direction all serious if I can recall.
RightBetty / Don
Right. Plus she had the "spotting" at the end of the previous episode, before she ever cheated.
Yep. Nothing we have been shown would indicate that Betty slept with anyone besides Don...and the dude at the bar.
"I don't have a contract."McJose said:Duck =
Great season finale - I'm a little bummed the season is over now.
Dying? No. But he's been rudderless for a long time. I think ****'s time with the bohemians and Don's real wife showed him that his fulfillment would come through his family.Do you honestly feel like he is dying to get back with Betty? Yea, he wrote the letter but I dunno I just don't feel like he really wants to get back with her.Christo said:I don't think **** starts cheating again. We witnessed his "cleansing" last week.Walton Goggins said:I think by Pete coming into Draper's office after Draper told him "he is ready" their relationship is fine. Remember their problems stemmed from Pete not being ready and expecting things to be handed to him. You can see in Pete's character that he is way different this last part of the season than the first part of last season.Draper won't work for Duck, that's pretty clear but remember Draper doesn't have a contract so he could go elsewhere or have a deal where he doesn't have to listen to Duck.The one thing I don't want to see this show go is in the direction where Draper goes back to his wife. So much crap has happened and perhaps he "got it" when the waves were hitting him in CALI but I would rather see his character grow in another direction. If he goes back to his wife and starts cheating again, then what?jdoggydogg said:Just an awesome season finale.I don't know if they fired Duck, but clearly Draper will not be working for Pete and Duck. Since I assume there's no way Draper would stand for that, I have to assume that Draper's either the new President or that Draper will stay because Duck was fired.I wish I could have heard that conversation once they asked Duck to leave the room
But his wife didn't show him anything. He was gone the whole time and was honest with he told Sterling that he felt relieved. It's not like his real wife showed him how bad he's got it or anything. She's a dud.Dying? No. But he's been rudderless for a long time. I think ****'s time with the bohemians and Don's real wife showed him that his fulfillment would come through his family.Do you honestly feel like he is dying to get back with Betty? Yea, he wrote the letter but I dunno I just don't feel like he really wants to get back with her.Christo said:I don't think **** starts cheating again. We witnessed his "cleansing" last week.Walton Goggins said:I think by Pete coming into Draper's office after Draper told him "he is ready" their relationship is fine. Remember their problems stemmed from Pete not being ready and expecting things to be handed to him. You can see in Pete's character that he is way different this last part of the season than the first part of last season.Draper won't work for Duck, that's pretty clear but remember Draper doesn't have a contract so he could go elsewhere or have a deal where he doesn't have to listen to Duck.The one thing I don't want to see this show go is in the direction where Draper goes back to his wife. So much crap has happened and perhaps he "got it" when the waves were hitting him in CALI but I would rather see his character grow in another direction. If he goes back to his wife and starts cheating again, then what?jdoggydogg said:Just an awesome season finale.I don't know if they fired Duck, but clearly Draper will not be working for Pete and Duck. Since I assume there's no way Draper would stand for that, I have to assume that Draper's either the new President or that Draper will stay because Duck was fired.I wish I could have heard that conversation once they asked Duck to leave the room
What?But his wife didn't show him anything. He was gone the whole time and was honest with he told Sterling that he felt relieved. It's not like his real wife showed him how bad he's got it or anything. She's a dud.Dying? No. But he's been rudderless for a long time. I think ****'s time with the bohemians and Don's real wife showed him that his fulfillment would come through his family.Do you honestly feel like he is dying to get back with Betty? Yea, he wrote the letter but I dunno I just don't feel like he really wants to get back with her.Christo said:I don't think **** starts cheating again. We witnessed his "cleansing" last week.Walton Goggins said:I think by Pete coming into Draper's office after Draper told him "he is ready" their relationship is fine. Remember their problems stemmed from Pete not being ready and expecting things to be handed to him. You can see in Pete's character that he is way different this last part of the season than the first part of last season.Draper won't work for Duck, that's pretty clear but remember Draper doesn't have a contract so he could go elsewhere or have a deal where he doesn't have to listen to Duck.The one thing I don't want to see this show go is in the direction where Draper goes back to his wife. So much crap has happened and perhaps he "got it" when the waves were hitting him in CALI but I would rather see his character grow in another direction. If he goes back to his wife and starts cheating again, then what?jdoggydogg said:Just an awesome season finale.I don't know if they fired Duck, but clearly Draper will not be working for Pete and Duck. Since I assume there's no way Draper would stand for that, I have to assume that Draper's either the new President or that Draper will stay because Duck was fired.I wish I could have heard that conversation once they asked Duck to leave the room
What?But his wife didn't show him anything. He was gone the whole time and was honest with he told Sterling that he felt relieved. It's not like his real wife showed him how bad he's got it or anything. She's a dud.Dying? No. But he's been rudderless for a long time. I think ****'s time with the bohemians and Don's real wife showed him that his fulfillment would come through his family.Do you honestly feel like he is dying to get back with Betty? Yea, he wrote the letter but I dunno I just don't feel like he really wants to get back with her.Christo said:I don't think **** starts cheating again. We witnessed his "cleansing" last week.Walton Goggins said:I think by Pete coming into Draper's office after Draper told him "he is ready" their relationship is fine. Remember their problems stemmed from Pete not being ready and expecting things to be handed to him. You can see in Pete's character that he is way different this last part of the season than the first part of last season.Draper won't work for Duck, that's pretty clear but remember Draper doesn't have a contract so he could go elsewhere or have a deal where he doesn't have to listen to Duck.The one thing I don't want to see this show go is in the direction where Draper goes back to his wife. So much crap has happened and perhaps he "got it" when the waves were hitting him in CALI but I would rather see his character grow in another direction. If he goes back to his wife and starts cheating again, then what?jdoggydogg said:Just an awesome season finale.I don't know if they fired Duck, but clearly Draper will not be working for Pete and Duck. Since I assume there's no way Draper would stand for that, I have to assume that Draper's either the new President or that Draper will stay because Duck was fired.I wish I could have heard that conversation once they asked Duck to leave the room
Don is going back to Betty because she and the kids are his anchor to reality. To an identity. They are all he has. He won't do them like he did his brother. He may be empty inside but he is trying.Don will probably become the President of the Sterling-Cooper office. He will have even more power. He is not going anywhere obviously because the rest of the cast isn't.Besides Don, the most ineresting character I think is the hot red-head secretary. Her storyline has been so subtle yet so glaring. Great work.Don's womanizing ways are a major appeal to the show. Him staying loyal to Betty will be difficult. Could see them offing Betty. Childbirth or something.Overall, very good season. Would have like more fireworks with Campbell and more airtime for the gay guy in the office.What?But his wife didn't show him anything. He was gone the whole time and was honest with he told Sterling that he felt relieved. It's not like his real wife showed him how bad he's got it or anything. She's a dud.Dying? No. But he's been rudderless for a long time. I think ****'s time with the bohemians and Don's real wife showed him that his fulfillment would come through his family.Do you honestly feel like he is dying to get back with Betty? Yea, he wrote the letter but I dunno I just don't feel like he really wants to get back with her.Christo said:I don't think **** starts cheating again. We witnessed his "cleansing" last week.Walton Goggins said:I think by Pete coming into Draper's office after Draper told him "he is ready" their relationship is fine. Remember their problems stemmed from Pete not being ready and expecting things to be handed to him. You can see in Pete's character that he is way different this last part of the season than the first part of last season.Draper won't work for Duck, that's pretty clear but remember Draper doesn't have a contract so he could go elsewhere or have a deal where he doesn't have to listen to Duck.The one thing I don't want to see this show go is in the direction where Draper goes back to his wife. So much crap has happened and perhaps he "got it" when the waves were hitting him in CALI but I would rather see his character grow in another direction. If he goes back to his wife and starts cheating again, then what?jdoggydogg said:Just an awesome season finale.I don't know if they fired Duck, but clearly Draper will not be working for Pete and Duck. Since I assume there's no way Draper would stand for that, I have to assume that Draper's either the new President or that Draper will stay because Duck was fired.I wish I could have heard that conversation once they asked Duck to leave the room
Yes, it was like they brought that guy in just to have a way to get Peggy a haircut.Daywalker said:
Could be good tension to have a guy who is "out" with a guy who is not. (Sal)I think it is very interesting how they are evolving chatracters (Joan, Pete) at a time period that was really characterized by a lot of change.
Are you talking about his first fake wife? I assumed you were talking about Betty since that's really his only 'real' wife.Christo said:What?Walton Goggins said:But his wife didn't show him anything. He was gone the whole time and was honest with he told Sterling that he felt relieved. It's not like his real wife showed him how bad he's got it or anything. She's a dud.Christo said:Dying? No. But he's been rudderless for a long time. I think ****'s time with the bohemians and Don's real wife showed him that his fulfillment would come through his family.Do you honestly feel like he is dying to get back with Betty? Yea, he wrote the letter but I dunno I just don't feel like he really wants to get back with her.Christo said:I don't think **** starts cheating again. We witnessed his "cleansing" last week.Walton Goggins said:I think by Pete coming into Draper's office after Draper told him "he is ready" their relationship is fine. Remember their problems stemmed from Pete not being ready and expecting things to be handed to him. You can see in Pete's character that he is way different this last part of the season than the first part of last season.Draper won't work for Duck, that's pretty clear but remember Draper doesn't have a contract so he could go elsewhere or have a deal where he doesn't have to listen to Duck.jdoggydogg said:Just an awesome season finale.
I don't know if they fired Duck, but clearly Draper will not be working for Pete and Duck. Since I assume there's no way Draper would stand for that, I have to assume that Draper's either the new President or that Draper will stay because Duck was fired.
I wish I could have heard that conversation once they asked Duck to leave the room
The one thing I don't want to see this show go is in the direction where Draper goes back to his wife. So much crap has happened and perhaps he "got it" when the waves were hitting him in CALI but I would rather see his character grow in another direction. If he goes back to his wife and starts cheating again, then what?
The chick in Cali. Maybe I should have said "the real Don's wife" rather than "Don's real wife."Are you talking about his first fake wife? I assumed you were talking about Betty since that's really his only 'real' wife.Christo said:What?Walton Goggins said:But his wife didn't show him anything. He was gone the whole time and was honest with he told Sterling that he felt relieved. It's not like his real wife showed him how bad he's got it or anything. She's a dud.Christo said:Dying? No. But he's been rudderless for a long time. I think ****'s time with the bohemians and Don's real wife showed him that his fulfillment would come through his family.Do you honestly feel like he is dying to get back with Betty? Yea, he wrote the letter but I dunno I just don't feel like he really wants to get back with her.Christo said:I don't think **** starts cheating again. We witnessed his "cleansing" last week.Walton Goggins said:I think by Pete coming into Draper's office after Draper told him "he is ready" their relationship is fine. Remember their problems stemmed from Pete not being ready and expecting things to be handed to him. You can see in Pete's character that he is way different this last part of the season than the first part of last season.Draper won't work for Duck, that's pretty clear but remember Draper doesn't have a contract so he could go elsewhere or have a deal where he doesn't have to listen to Duck.jdoggydogg said:Just an awesome season finale.
I don't know if they fired Duck, but clearly Draper will not be working for Pete and Duck. Since I assume there's no way Draper would stand for that, I have to assume that Draper's either the new President or that Draper will stay because Duck was fired.
I wish I could have heard that conversation once they asked Duck to leave the room
The one thing I don't want to see this show go is in the direction where Draper goes back to his wife. So much crap has happened and perhaps he "got it" when the waves were hitting him in CALI but I would rather see his character grow in another direction. If he goes back to his wife and starts cheating again, then what?
LOL I guess because I associated her with his "first" wife I got mixed up. Ironically Don's "fake" wife he gets along with way more than his "real" and current wife.The chick in Cali. Maybe I should have said "the real Don's wife" rather than "Don's real wife."Are you talking about his first fake wife? I assumed you were talking about Betty since that's really his only 'real' wife.Christo said:What?Walton Goggins said:But his wife didn't show him anything. He was gone the whole time and was honest with he told Sterling that he felt relieved. It's not like his real wife showed him how bad he's got it or anything. She's a dud.Christo said:Dying? No. But he's been rudderless for a long time. I think ****'s time with the bohemians and Don's real wife showed him that his fulfillment would come through his family.Do you honestly feel like he is dying to get back with Betty? Yea, he wrote the letter but I dunno I just don't feel like he really wants to get back with her.Christo said:I don't think **** starts cheating again. We witnessed his "cleansing" last week.Walton Goggins said:I think by Pete coming into Draper's office after Draper told him "he is ready" their relationship is fine. Remember their problems stemmed from Pete not being ready and expecting things to be handed to him. You can see in Pete's character that he is way different this last part of the season than the first part of last season.Draper won't work for Duck, that's pretty clear but remember Draper doesn't have a contract so he could go elsewhere or have a deal where he doesn't have to listen to Duck.jdoggydogg said:Just an awesome season finale.
I don't know if they fired Duck, but clearly Draper will not be working for Pete and Duck. Since I assume there's no way Draper would stand for that, I have to assume that Draper's either the new President or that Draper will stay because Duck was fired.
I wish I could have heard that conversation once they asked Duck to leave the room
The one thing I don't want to see this show go is in the direction where Draper goes back to his wife. So much crap has happened and perhaps he "got it" when the waves were hitting him in CALI but I would rather see his character grow in another direction. If he goes back to his wife and starts cheating again, then what?
I also think it is important to remember where Don came from. Basically orphaned, grew up in an unloving environment etc. Earlier this season we saw how hard it was for Don to discipline his kid. Betty and the kids are all of the things he didn't have.Daywalker said:Don is going back to Betty because she and the kids are his anchor to reality. To an identity. They are all he has. He won't do them like he did his brother. He may be empty inside but he is trying.McJose said:Christo said:What?Walton Goggins said:But his wife didn't show him anything. He was gone the whole time and was honest with he told Sterling that he felt relieved. It's not like his real wife showed him how bad he's got it or anything. She's a dud.Christo said:Dying? No. But he's been rudderless for a long time. I think ****'s time with the bohemians and Don's real wife showed him that his fulfillment would come through his family.Do you honestly feel like he is dying to get back with Betty? Yea, he wrote the letter but I dunno I just don't feel like he really wants to get back with her.Christo said:I don't think **** starts cheating again. We witnessed his "cleansing" last week.Walton Goggins said:I think by Pete coming into Draper's office after Draper told him "he is ready" their relationship is fine. Remember their problems stemmed from Pete not being ready and expecting things to be handed to him. You can see in Pete's character that he is way different this last part of the season than the first part of last season.Draper won't work for Duck, that's pretty clear but remember Draper doesn't have a contract so he could go elsewhere or have a deal where he doesn't have to listen to Duck.The one thing I don't want to see this show go is in the direction where Draper goes back to his wife. So much crap has happened and perhaps he "got it" when the waves were hitting him in CALI but I would rather see his character grow in another direction. If he goes back to his wife and starts cheating again, then what?jdoggydogg said:Just an awesome season finale.I don't know if they fired Duck, but clearly Draper will not be working for Pete and Duck. Since I assume there's no way Draper would stand for that, I have to assume that Draper's either the new President or that Draper will stay because Duck was fired.I wish I could have heard that conversation once they asked Duck to leave the room
given that the series will jump to 1964, they couldn't really leave stuff hanging so much.That said, a faithful Don Draper sould be a snooze-fest....
