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Man Up, Choose a Light Beer With Taste (1 Viewer)

'Jules Winnfield said:
'bakes said:
'cstu said:
To be fair to Bud/Miller/Coors they are popular because they 'aren't bad'. Most people who drink beer in this country do it just to get a buzz and want to drink something that's 'not bad'.
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Their lasting popularity is also because they used to be the only game in town. If you go back 25 years, there WAS no craft beer; basically you had the choice between Bud, Miller, Coors, imports (more expensive and sometimes skunky) and the smaller regionals that were trying to hang in there against BMC, usually by cutting either A. prices, B. quality of ingredients (hello, Schlitz) or C. both. Bud is consistent - the fact that they can make a light adjunct lager recipe in 10 different breweries taste the same all the time is a tip of the hat to their skills as brewers; that doesn't change the fact that it's a semi-flavorless acetaldehyde bomb that will give you a worse hangover per ounce of alcohol consumed than any other beer I know of. I'll take Labatts Blue Light over it 100 times out of 100.
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I wouldn't say there was NO craft beer 25 years ago but there wasn't a vast array of themSummit Brewery started 25 years agoRed Hook has been brewing since 1981
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I think he meant no widely distributed craft beers.
 
'Apple Jack said:
'Jules Winnfield said:
'bakes said:
'cstu said:
To be fair to Bud/Miller/Coors they are popular because they 'aren't bad'. Most people who drink beer in this country do it just to get a buzz and want to drink something that's 'not bad'.
Click to expand...
Their lasting popularity is also because they used to be the only game in town. If you go back 25 years, there WAS no craft beer; basically you had the choice between Bud, Miller, Coors, imports (more expensive and sometimes skunky) and the smaller regionals that were trying to hang in there against BMC, usually by cutting either A. prices, B. quality of ingredients (hello, Schlitz) or C. both. Bud is consistent - the fact that they can make a light adjunct lager recipe in 10 different breweries taste the same all the time is a tip of the hat to their skills as brewers; that doesn't change the fact that it's a semi-flavorless acetaldehyde bomb that will give you a worse hangover per ounce of alcohol consumed than any other beer I know of. I'll take Labatts Blue Light over it 100 times out of 100.
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I wouldn't say there was NO craft beer 25 years ago but there wasn't a vast array of themSummit Brewery started 25 years agoRed Hook has been brewing since 1981
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I think he meant no widely distributed craft beers.
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Yeah...I went back and read his post again. I get what he is saying now. I'm gonna delete and then go get a Big Kahuna Burger
 
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'bakes said:
'cstu said:
To be fair to Bud/Miller/Coors they are popular because they 'aren't bad'. Most people who drink beer in this country do it just to get a buzz and want to drink something that's 'not bad'.
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Their lasting popularity is also because they used to be the only game in town. If you go back 25 years, there WAS no craft beer; basically you had the choice between Bud, Miller, Coors, imports (more expensive and sometimes skunky) and the smaller regionals that were trying to hang in there against BMC, usually by cutting either A. prices, B. quality of ingredients (hello, Schlitz) or C. both. Bud is consistent - the fact that they can make a light adjunct lager recipe in 10 different breweries taste the same all the time is a tip of the hat to their skills as brewers; that doesn't change the fact that it's a semi-flavorless acetaldehyde bomb that will give you a worse hangover per ounce of alcohol consumed than any other beer I know of. I'll take Labatts Blue Light over it 100 times out of 100.
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That's certainly most of the reason. I was just thinking the other day that we're probably just seeing the first generation of new U.S beer drinkers that might've had fathers drinking something other than macrolager (since Prohibition, I guess). I'm sure that is and will continue to be very important in the growth of the craft beer market.I blows mind to think of what it would be like growing up watching your father drink nice IPAs.

Despite the other factors, though, I think people do actually like BMC macrolagers. Macrolagers are in decline, but it's still the vast majority of the U.S. market. Lack of options is close to being a non-excuse. Price isn't even much of one, really. Around here, the price of a 12-pack of Bud Light isn't much less than a 12-pack of Sierra Nevada (which is cheap at Sam's and regularly on sale for $14 at Kroger).

Hell, many consider Yuengling a huge step up from BMC (I personally don't like Yuengling, but it's certainly a more quality beer). It's the exact same price, is widely-available and the vast majority will still grab a BMC over Yuengling.

Many of the reasons for the BMC dominance are slowly fading away, thankfully, but the fact does remain that people do love a light, crisp, refreshing beer.

 
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'pollardsvision said:
'bakes said:
'cstu said:
To be fair to Bud/Miller/Coors they are popular because they 'aren't bad'. Most people who drink beer in this country do it just to get a buzz and want to drink something that's 'not bad'.
Click to expand...
Their lasting popularity is also because they used to be the only game in town. If you go back 25 years, there WAS no craft beer; basically you had the choice between Bud, Miller, Coors, imports (more expensive and sometimes skunky) and the smaller regionals that were trying to hang in there against BMC, usually by cutting either A. prices, B. quality of ingredients (hello, Schlitz) or C. both. Bud is consistent - the fact that they can make a light adjunct lager recipe in 10 different breweries taste the same all the time is a tip of the hat to their skills as brewers; that doesn't change the fact that it's a semi-flavorless acetaldehyde bomb that will give you a worse hangover per ounce of alcohol consumed than any other beer I know of. I'll take Labatts Blue Light over it 100 times out of 100.
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That's certainly most of the reason. I was just thinking the other day that we're probably just seeing the first generation of new U.S beer drinkers that might've had fathers drinking something other than macrolager (since Prohibition, I guess). I'm sure that is and will continue to be very important in the growth of the craft beer market.I blows mind to think of what it would be like growing up watching your father drink nice IPAs.

Despite the other factors, though, I think people do actually like BMC macrolagers. Macrolagers are in decline, but it's still the vast majority of the U.S. market. Lack of options is close to being a non-excuse. Price isn't even much of one, really. Around here, the price of a 12-pack of Bud Light isn't much less than a 12-pack of Sierra Nevada (which is cheap at Sam's and regularly on sale for $14 at Kroger).

Hell, many consider Yuengling a huge step up from BMC (I personally don't like Yuengling, but it's certainly a more quality beer). It's the exact same price, is widely-available and the vast majority will still grab a BMC over Yuengling.

Many of the reasons for the BMC dominance are slowly fading away, thankfully, but the fact does remain that people do love a light, crisp, refreshing beer.
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They are still buying off and incenting distributors and bars to carry their stuff. This is still a huge difference maker for them.
 
'urbanhack said:
'pollardsvision said:
'bakes said:
'cstu said:
To be fair to Bud/Miller/Coors they are popular because they 'aren't bad'. Most people who drink beer in this country do it just to get a buzz and want to drink something that's 'not bad'.
Click to expand...
Their lasting popularity is also because they used to be the only game in town. If you go back 25 years, there WAS no craft beer; basically you had the choice between Bud, Miller, Coors, imports (more expensive and sometimes skunky) and the smaller regionals that were trying to hang in there against BMC, usually by cutting either A. prices, B. quality of ingredients (hello, Schlitz) or C. both. Bud is consistent - the fact that they can make a light adjunct lager recipe in 10 different breweries taste the same all the time is a tip of the hat to their skills as brewers; that doesn't change the fact that it's a semi-flavorless acetaldehyde bomb that will give you a worse hangover per ounce of alcohol consumed than any other beer I know of. I'll take Labatts Blue Light over it 100 times out of 100.
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That's certainly most of the reason. I was just thinking the other day that we're probably just seeing the first generation of new U.S beer drinkers that might've had fathers drinking something other than macrolager (since Prohibition, I guess). I'm sure that is and will continue to be very important in the growth of the craft beer market.I blows mind to think of what it would be like growing up watching your father drink nice IPAs.

Despite the other factors, though, I think people do actually like BMC macrolagers. Macrolagers are in decline, but it's still the vast majority of the U.S. market. Lack of options is close to being a non-excuse. Price isn't even much of one, really. Around here, the price of a 12-pack of Bud Light isn't much less than a 12-pack of Sierra Nevada (which is cheap at Sam's and regularly on sale for $14 at Kroger).

Hell, many consider Yuengling a huge step up from BMC (I personally don't like Yuengling, but it's certainly a more quality beer). It's the exact same price, is widely-available and the vast majority will still grab a BMC over Yuengling.

Many of the reasons for the BMC dominance are slowly fading away, thankfully, but the fact does remain that people do love a light, crisp, refreshing beer.
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They are still buying off and incenting distributors and bars to carry their stuff. This is still a huge difference maker for them.
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Sure, and I'd hope that's a factor that will continue to diminish one way or another.BMC will continue to try make life hard for a small brewer by any means necessary, as any industry giant does, but U.S. tastes are changing and I trust that distributors an retailers will continue to focus more and more on that growing demand.

It's far from an even playing field, but at least, more and more, the consumers are being given the choices to help influence the direction of the industry.

 
The only time I really can go for a miller lite:

If it is really hot out and an ice cold one is available. For example sitting on the deck after I mow my lawn on a summer day.

If I am planning on drinking a lot of beers. They are light, inexpensive and relatively low in alcohol. You can drink a lot without getting totally smashed (unless that's the objective) while not getting full.

That said, I usually do have a few on hand for friends who come over or for myself in rare situations.

 
'shuke said:
'bentley said:
'shuke said:
'Jobber said:
I really had no idea that many of the 6 pack crafts you see out there are Miller or Anhueiser Busch.
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Like what?
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Anheuser Busch ownsRed HookWidmerRolling RockGoose IslandKona Brewingplus their own stuff like Shock Top, Landshark, and King Cobra.
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Didn't know that. But let's take Goose Island, they still have their own brewery, right? Who cares if AB owns them?
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I tend to agree with you. With the notable exception of Blue Moon, most of the notable "craft" beer produced by the Big Three is stuff they acquired rather than original product. I'm sure you'll find thousands of beer snobs that will tell you that all of these brands changed their formula and started sucking once they were bought by one of the big boys.
 
'shuke said:
'bentley said:
'shuke said:
'Jobber said:
I really had no idea that many of the 6 pack crafts you see out there are Miller or Anhueiser Busch.
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Like what?
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Anheuser Busch ownsRed HookWidmerRolling RockGoose IslandKona Brewingplus their own stuff like Shock Top, Landshark, and King Cobra.
Click to expand...
Didn't know that. But let's take Goose Island, they still have their own brewery, right? Who cares if AB owns them?
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You should care because AB's priority is on maximizing profits rather than producing great beer. If they can cut corners they will.
 
'shuke said:
'bentley said:
'shuke said:
'Jobber said:
I really had no idea that many of the 6 pack crafts you see out there are Miller or Anhueiser Busch.
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Like what?
Click to expand...
Anheuser Busch ownsRed HookWidmerRolling RockGoose IslandKona Brewingplus their own stuff like Shock Top, Landshark, and King Cobra.
Click to expand...
Didn't know that. But let's take Goose Island, they still have their own brewery, right? Who cares if AB owns them?
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To this point, AB hasn't messed GI's recipes or quality beer. They have shifted around where they brew certain types of beer (i.e. the IPA and 312 are now brewed at other AB facilities. The biggest boost for GI has been the power of AB's distribution. We'll see if this changes going forward.
 
Being down in 85-90 degree heat 9-10 months out of the year, and also with 40 creeping up on me, I just cannot guzzle down heavy beer and still function much. I also cannot drink anything in the BMC department although I can stomach a Miller Lite but I usually regret it an hour later when I am pissing every 5 seconds.

I enjoy Amstel Light on tap, Heineken Light in a bottle is OK, but lately I have found Sam Adams Cold Snap which I imagine is going away but the little craft place down the street brought it in on tap. I liked it so much I went to the store and bought a couple six packs. It's still around 5% ABV but it is super refreshing.

In the summer my go to in Miami is Erdinger, delightful on a hot day.

 
Don't tell me we still got some featherweight biotches here still drinking a light beer with no taste. MAN UP.

 
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