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Manly Stuff I Don't Know: Mixing 50:1 gas/oil (1 Viewer)

Chadstroma

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So, I don't know a whole lot about manly things like fixing cars and houses. Here is one occasion where I am stuck. The chainsaw I got has a 50:1 gas/oil mixture. I read the whole dang manual but they just assume you know how to mix the gas/oil.

So... how do I do this? What is the easy life hack way of doing it? Tips? Things I should know?

And bonus for any tips on the chainsaw itself. Not a big one and I am not downing a forest but trimming a small tree and downing two dead ones.

 
1 gallon of gas mixed with the proper amount of oil (2.6oz). Buy the little oil container from a hardware store. It has the reservoir that gives you the right mix.

 
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You go to store and buy the 50:1 oil and pour it into a 1 gallon gas can. This gas mixture is what you use to fill up chainsaw with.

It looks like this

http://www.amazon.com/Echo-Pack-Gallon-Power-Blend/dp/B006ZAMO80/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1429636471&sr=1-1&keywords=50+1+oil

Get a separate can - maybe different color and mark it so it doesn't get mixed up with normal gas
Last line is important. I think I ran a 2 stroke engine once with straight gas. Didn't take long...

 
I have a 2 gallon gas can and learned this over the very brutal winter. Bought two of those little bottles and filled up the can and shook. Good to go.

 
You can buy 50:1 gas/oil already mixed in a small can at HD. At least I think that is where I saw it. I think it was about 20 or 30 fluid oz. That will be plenty for what you are doing.

 
As far as the chainsaw, make sure you have some bar oil and keep it filled up. And make sure to keep the trees from falling on your house. ;)

And in general, ethanol gas is bad for small 2 stroke engines. If you can get ethanol free, do it. I have a couple places around here I can get it.

 
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So, I don't know a whole lot about manly things like fixing cars and houses. Here is one occasion where I am stuck. The chainsaw I got has a 50:1 gas/oil mixture. I read the whole dang manual but they just assume you know how to mix the gas/oil.

So... how do I do this? What is the easy life hack way of doing it? Tips? Things I should know?

And bonus for any tips on the chainsaw itself. Not a big one and I am not downing a forest but trimming a small tree and downing two dead ones.
Others touched on the oil. I'll give you some advice re. the chainsaw.

If you're cutting larger trees, be aware of pinching. Be sure that you don't try and cut through a standing tree in one cut or you'll likely pinch your saw and get it stuck. Cut out a knotch in the tree that goes just shy of half way (Think pac man mouth), then back-cut to the top 1/3 of the notch. That'll make the tree fall towards the notch side unless it's really off-balance to begin with. It also keeps your blade from getting pinched. LIKE THIS

The other piece of advice is more for safety. Mind the tip. The tip of the saw is where the blade spins DOWN. If you hit that on something, it can make the saw kick UP. If you don't understand why that's dangerous, then you shouldn't be cutting. Don't ever let the tip fo the saw come into contact with the ground, another piece of wood, etc.

Oh...one more re. pinching: If you're pruning small branches, consider a bypass lopper instead of a chain saw. I have a Fiskars lopper that'll cut 3" diameter branches without much issue. Safer and faster than waiving my saw above my head.

 
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Buy a 50 gallon drum.

Fill with gas.

Add 1 gallon of oil.

Clean up huge mess because 51 gallons of liquid won't fit in a 50 gallon drum.

Hire an immigrant/neighbor kid to do your yardwork.

 
The way I remember it is 2 stroke outbord motors usually used a 6 gallon (24 quart) tank so when you poured into one pint (half a quart or 16 ounces) of oil you automatically got a 48:1 ratio (24 quarts / 0.5 quart). This is usually just rounded up to 50:1 in the owners manual.

So for just 1 gallon you would need 16 ounces / 6 gallons or 2.67 ounces. Its usually better to go a little heavy on the oil to be safe.

 
So, I don't know a whole lot about manly things like fixing cars and houses. Here is one occasion where I am stuck. The chainsaw I got has a 50:1 gas/oil mixture. I read the whole dang manual but they just assume you know how to mix the gas/oil.

So... how do I do this? What is the easy life hack way of doing it? Tips? Things I should know?

And bonus for any tips on the chainsaw itself. Not a big one and I am not downing a forest but trimming a small tree and downing two dead ones.
Others touched on the oil. I'll give you some advice re. the chainsaw.

If you're cutting larger trees, be aware of pinching. Be sure that you don't try and cut through a standing tree in one cut or you'll likely pinch your saw and get it stuck. Cut out a knotch in the tree that goes just shy of half way (Think pac man mouth), then back-cut to the top 1/3 of the notch. That'll make the tree fall towards the notch side unless it's really off-balance to begin with. It also keeps your blade from getting pinched. LIKE THIS

The other piece of advice is more for safety. Mind the tip. The tip of the saw is where the blade spins DOWN. If you hit that on something, it can make the saw kick UP. If you don't understand why that's dangerous, then you shouldn't be cutting. Don't ever let the tip fo the saw come into contact with the ground, another piece of wood, etc.

Oh...one more re. pinching: If you're pruning small branches, consider a bypass lopper instead of a chain saw. I have a Fiskars lopper that'll cut 3" diameter branches without much issue. Safer and faster than waiving my saw above my head.
Good stuff here. :thumbup:

A couple other items that should be common sense, don't use your saw while standing on a ladder and don't cut branches where you have to use the saw over your head.

 
All good tips in here. If you're going to mix it yourself.....Add the oil to the can first, then go to the gas station and fill it up with gas. The power of the gas pumping into the can will mix it just fine. No need to shake it and open yourself up for a potential mess.

 
Buy the premix gas that doesn't have ethanol in it. Husqvarna mix is what I'm using. Longer shelf life and it won't mess up your carb.

 
So, I don't know a whole lot about manly things like fixing cars and houses. Here is one occasion where I am stuck. The chainsaw I got has a 50:1 gas/oil mixture. I read the whole dang manual but they just assume you know how to mix the gas/oil.

So... how do I do this? What is the easy life hack way of doing it? Tips? Things I should know?

And bonus for any tips on the chainsaw itself. Not a big one and I am not downing a forest but trimming a small tree and downing two dead ones.
Others touched on the oil. I'll give you some advice re. the chainsaw.

If you're cutting larger trees, be aware of pinching. Be sure that you don't try and cut through a standing tree in one cut or you'll likely pinch your saw and get it stuck. Cut out a knotch in the tree that goes just shy of half way (Think pac man mouth), then back-cut to the top 1/3 of the notch. That'll make the tree fall towards the notch side unless it's really off-balance to begin with. It also keeps your blade from getting pinched. LIKE THIS

The other piece of advice is more for safety. Mind the tip. The tip of the saw is where the blade spins DOWN. If you hit that on something, it can make the saw kick UP. If you don't understand why that's dangerous, then you shouldn't be cutting. Don't ever let the tip fo the saw come into contact with the ground, another piece of wood, etc.

Oh...one more re. pinching: If you're pruning small branches, consider a bypass lopper instead of a chain saw. I have a Fiskars lopper that'll cut 3" diameter branches without much issue. Safer and faster than waiving my saw above my head.
I kind of figured the pinching out just as much as physics I guess.

I read about the kick up in the manual which I was not aware of but made perfect sense after reading.

I have a handsaw that I took to the trimming part of the one tree. The one part that I was going to use a chainsaw on is a dead 'main' truck branch (the tree has several coming out of the base) but as I was trimming, I noticed a bird nest in the dead area and so I have decided to deal with this next spring and leave the birds alone.

I also think the small tree would be safer to use the handsaw as it may take a while but it is in a precarious spot that I could easily end up hitting something I shouldnt with the chainsaw. So, I will deal with the the one that I really need the chainsaw on later. My back is already starting to act up (car accident last July) and I want to make sure that I get the gutters cleaned today.

 
Buy the premix gas that doesn't have ethanol in it. Husqvarna mix is what I'm using. Longer shelf life and it won't mess up your carb.
Yea, that was another follow up question that I was going to have as the manual said no ethanol. Couldn't figure out where to buy gas without an ethanol mix but obviously did not know you could buy pre-mixed gas. :thumbup:

 
Get PPE (Personal Protection Equipment)

Find someone you know who knows chainsaw use and learn from him. The average injury with a chainsaw is on the order of 120 stitches.

 
Buy the premix gas that doesn't have ethanol in it. Husqvarna mix is what I'm using. Longer shelf life and it won't mess up your carb.
Yea, that was another follow up question that I was going to have as the manual said no ethanol. Couldn't figure out where to buy gas without an ethanol mix but obviously did not know you could buy pre-mixed gas. :thumbup:
I'd be shocked if there weren't stations around you with non-ethanol gas. It's everywhere down here.

 
Buy the premix gas that doesn't have ethanol in it. Husqvarna mix is what I'm using. Longer shelf life and it won't mess up your carb.
Yea, that was another follow up question that I was going to have as the manual said no ethanol. Couldn't figure out where to buy gas without an ethanol mix but obviously did not know you could buy pre-mixed gas. :thumbup:
I'd be shocked if there weren't stations around you with non-ethanol gas. It's everywhere down here.
I haven't seen it too many places here but the small plane airport has it.

 
Buy the premix gas that doesn't have ethanol in it. Husqvarna mix is what I'm using. Longer shelf life and it won't mess up your carb.
Yea, that was another follow up question that I was going to have as the manual said no ethanol. Couldn't figure out where to buy gas without an ethanol mix but obviously did not know you could buy pre-mixed gas. :thumbup:
I'd be shocked if there weren't stations around you with non-ethanol gas. It's everywhere down here.
I haven't seen it too many places here but the small plane airport has it.
Interesting. Bas assumption on my part. More than not have an ethanol-free option around me. The option started showing up a couple years ago. It's all I put in any of my small engines.

 
Buy the premix gas that doesn't have ethanol in it. Husqvarna mix is what I'm using. Longer shelf life and it won't mess up your carb.
Yea, that was another follow up question that I was going to have as the manual said no ethanol. Couldn't figure out where to buy gas without an ethanol mix but obviously did not know you could buy pre-mixed gas. :thumbup:
Get Sta-bil Marine and add it to every can of gas you use in small engine/lawn equipment.

You'll likely take a while to use a gallon of gas in your saw unless you cut A LOT, and the Sta-Bil will keep it fresh for a long time. Plus, Marine Sta-Bil has Ethanol treatment and water/moisture preventers as well. Both can be important as smaller engines don't burn hot enough to burn off some of the Ethanol residue, and leaving gas in a can in varying humidity/temperature environments can lead to some water in the gas.

As a basic rule, I use it in all my canned gas.

 
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Was looking at a weed eater. Looked nice, but the thing took a mixture. I asked the guy what it meant and he said "Just do the math and you'll be fine." So I bought an electric one.

 
Was looking at a weed eater. Looked nice, but the thing took a mixture. I asked the guy what it meant and he said "Just do the math and you'll be fine." So I bought an electric one.
:lmao:

In the future, get a gallon container, pour in the premeasured bottle of oil, fill with a gallon of gas. Done.

 
Buy the premix gas that doesn't have ethanol in it. Husqvarna mix is what I'm using. Longer shelf life and it won't mess up your carb.
Yea, that was another follow up question that I was going to have as the manual said no ethanol. Couldn't figure out where to buy gas without an ethanol mix but obviously did not know you could buy pre-mixed gas. :thumbup:
Get Sta-bil Marine and add it to every can of gas you use in small engine/lawn equipment.

You'll likely take a while to use a gallon of gas in your saw unless you cut A LOT, and the Sta-Bil will keep it fresh for a long time. Plus, Marine Sta-Bil has Ethanol treatment and water/moisture preventers as well. Both can be important as smaller engines don't burn hot enough to burn off some of the Ethanol residue, and leaving gas in a can in varying humidity/temperature environments can lead to some water in the gas.

As a basic rule, I use it in all my canned gas.
Your best bet is to run the gas empty if you are going to let it sit long. Ethanol eats away at seals, gaskets, hoses and stuff if left to sit - Sta-bil helps also.

 
Buy the premix gas that doesn't have ethanol in it. Husqvarna mix is what I'm using. Longer shelf life and it won't mess up your carb.
Yea, that was another follow up question that I was going to have as the manual said no ethanol. Couldn't figure out where to buy gas without an ethanol mix but obviously did not know you could buy pre-mixed gas. :thumbup:
I'd be shocked if there weren't stations around you with non-ethanol gas. It's everywhere down here.
I haven't seen it too many places here but the small plane airport has it.
Interesting. Bas assumption on my part. More than not have an ethanol-free option around me. The option started showing up a couple years ago. It's all I put in any of my small engines.
Good place to look is near Marina's and boating areas

 
Buy the premix gas that doesn't have ethanol in it. Husqvarna mix is what I'm using. Longer shelf life and it won't mess up your carb.
Yea, that was another follow up question that I was going to have as the manual said no ethanol. Couldn't figure out where to buy gas without an ethanol mix but obviously did not know you could buy pre-mixed gas. :thumbup:
Get Sta-bil Marine and add it to every can of gas you use in small engine/lawn equipment.

You'll likely take a while to use a gallon of gas in your saw unless you cut A LOT, and the Sta-Bil will keep it fresh for a long time. Plus, Marine Sta-Bil has Ethanol treatment and water/moisture preventers as well. Both can be important as smaller engines don't burn hot enough to burn off some of the Ethanol residue, and leaving gas in a can in varying humidity/temperature environments can lead to some water in the gas.

As a basic rule, I use it in all my canned gas.
Fuel stabilizer is key.

 
List of ethanol free gas stations in the US and Canada by state/province

I can't swear to the accuracy, but the stations in my area that offer ethanol free gas are listed.
Saw that site and they don't list either of the ones I know about here. Suppose I could add them. :mellow:

ETA: and it could be because the one I used isn't ethanol free but has one pump among 20 that is ethanol free, and the other place is an airport.
Two in my area were outdoor power equipment suppliers/service (from tractors, to ATVs, to line trimmers), 2 racing suppliers (up to 110 octane leaded!) and a gas station operated by local oil company. That station has been in the same place for over 80 years.

 
Was looking at a weed eater. Looked nice, but the thing took a mixture. I asked the guy what it meant and he said "Just do the math and you'll be fine." So I bought an electric one.
:lmao:

In the future, get a gallon container, pour in the premeasured bottle of oil, fill with a gallon of gas. Done.
Sheik has a history with gas powered lawn equipment. He made the right choice here.
He made the wrong choice for those of us that enjoy his stories.

 
I hate the safety gas cans that you are forced to buy these days. They are a pita.
Best present my wife ever got me. I never would've have spent that much myself, but I love having that thing.
:goodposting: Those come up on Woot.com every now and then for like $27.99. I got 3 the last time they came up. I agree. AWESOME gas can. So much better than any of the plastic crap out there. I broke my 2nd nozzle on the Briggs and Stratton crap cans from the box stores and had to find an alternative.

 
Was looking at a weed eater. Looked nice, but the thing took a mixture. I asked the guy what it meant and he said "Just do the math and you'll be fine." So I bought an electric one.
:lmao:

In the future, get a gallon container, pour in the premeasured bottle of oil, fill with a gallon of gas. Done.
Wait. What? How do I put a gallon of gas and some oil in a gallon container? Seems like that's more than a gallon.

 
Yes buy the premium gas so it's ethanol free. Cost a little more but you're only buying a gallon or two. Ethanol gas wrecks havoc on small engines.

 

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