Manning To Keep Record After Significant Stat Change In Question (1 Viewer)

[Phenix]

Manning is about to lose the all time passing record, NFL is reviewing a 7 yard pass to Decker, from the replay, it is clearly a backward pass.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1906402-peyton-mannings-single-season-passing-yard-record-under-nfl-review (Link is complete with video and image)

The NFL is questioning this and fromt he looks he will not hold the record, to be honest in the replay ESPN showed, I'm shocked that the official scorer didn't see it in real time. Someone just hoping he got the record for sure.

Again, Manning screwed himself by coming out of the game.

Perfect season and now passing yardage record. Learn from this teams.

Some records are too precious to pull players, especially when pulling players do not assure you a title.

 

[Darryl Talley]

I think they should let it stand. He obviously would've eclipsed the record anyway had it been ruled a lateral in the game. If I am Drew Brees, I am calling up the NFL and telling them to let it stand. I wouldn't want to hold the record because of a technicality.

 

[EastonBlues22]

It's not a technicality. That pass clearly traveled backward from Peyton's hand to Decker. Letting it stand simply because Peyton "deserves" it opens up a whole host of slippery slope concerns.

That stinks for Peyton, who I like a lot, but it should be overturned IMO.

 

[Neofight]

People and their attachment to something so inconsequential as this is one of my greatest fascinations in sport.

Big deal, he can take another stab at it next year. Maybe he'll earn it next time.

 

[Milkman]

People and their attachment to something so inconsequential as this is one of my greatest fascinations in sport.

Big deal, he can take another stab at it next year. Maybe he'll earn it next time.

Lol wat!

 

[Neofight]

People and their attachment to something so inconsequential as this is one of my greatest fascinations in sport.

Big deal, he can take another stab at it next year. Maybe he'll earn it next time.

Lol wat!

It was a lateral. Big deal. If I were a Bronco fan I'd be stoked that this could be motivation for next year. Saying that the record should be his regardless defies logic and any semblance of true competitive nature.

 

[drummer]

ZOMG! This should affect DEN's playoff seeding!

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

The play stands....if you change that then do you take the Chargers out of the playoffs and put Pittsburgh in?

The play was called a pass on the field, it wasn't reviewed then and it's history.

No,way they change that.

 

[Milkman]

People and their attachment to something so inconsequential as this is one of my greatest fascinations in sport.

Big deal, he can take another stab at it next year. Maybe he'll earn it next time.

Lol wat!

It was a lateral. Big deal. If I were a Bronco fan I'd be stoked that this could be motivation for next year. Saying that the record should be his regardless defies logic and any semblance of true competitive nature.

Lol nope. I wouldn't even want the record if I was Brees. Manning could have thrown for 300 more yards and 4 more TD's in that game.

 

[BobbyLayne]

There's preceded for that sort if thing - Mercury Morris, 1972.

Rewriting History

Talk about rewriting history, thats exactly what happened in 1972. Five days after the completion of the regular season, Mercury Morris received some good news and also helped him make history twice!

Morris finished the 72 campaign just short of the 1,000-yard plateau. However, it was discovered that a statisticians error on a lateral play from a game earlier in the season resulted in having nine yards subtracted from his rushing total. After further review, Pete Rozelles office informed Morris that he was, in fact, a 1,000-yard rusher after the league credited the yardage to his total.

With the adjustment, it not only allowed Csonka and Morris to make history as the leagues first-ever 1,000-yard duo from the same team in the same season, but recognized Morris as the ball-carrier on the play that set the team rushing mark.

In the season finale against the Baltimore Colts, Dolphins quarterback Earl Morrall scrambled five yards on a play that was believed to have broken the single season team rushing mark mentioned above. But, with the nine-yard adjustment in the rushing statistics, Morralls carry was not the record maker. Rather, that moment occurred three plays earlier on an eight-yard sweep by Morris.

- See more at: http://www.profootballhof.com/history/release.aspx?release_id=1729#sthash.wnx9yPPa.dpuf

 

[FUBAR]

If he didn't actually pass for more yards, change it. I doubt he wants to keep the record if he didn't earn it.

As for whether the league should say the chiefs won because of the bad call, no. It sucks, but we don't know that he would have made the second attempt

 

[domvin]

Manning is about to lose the all time passing record, NFL is reviewing a 7 yard pass to Decker, from the replay, it is clearly a backward pass.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1906402-peyton-mannings-single-season-passing-yard-record-under-nfl-review (Link is complete with video and image)

The NFL is questioning this and fromt he looks he will not hold the record, to be honest in the replay ESPN showed, I'm shocked that the official scorer didn't see it in real time. Someone just hoping he got the record for sure.

Again, Manning screwed himself by coming out of the game.

Perfect season and now passing yardage record. Learn from this teams.

Some records are too precious to pull players, especially when pulling players do not assure you a title.

So nothing has beendecided yet? Why post this prematurely. Couldn't wait huh? Gotta be the first one to post something.......

 

[Short Corner]

Manning is about to lose the all time passing record, NFL is reviewing a 7 yard pass to Decker, from the replay, it is clearly a backward pass.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1906402-peyton-mannings-single-season-passing-yard-record-under-nfl-review (Link is complete with video and image)

The NFL is questioning this and fromt he looks he will not hold the record, to be honest in the replay ESPN showed, I'm shocked that the official scorer didn't see it in real time. Someone just hoping he got the record for sure.

Again, Manning screwed himself by coming out of the game.

Perfect season and now passing yardage record. Learn from this teams.

Some records are too precious to pull players, especially when pulling players do not assure you a title.

So nothing has beendecided yet? Why post this prematurely. Couldn't wait huh? Gotta be the first one to post something.......

Seems thread worthy to me.

 

[Bamac]

Does anyone remember the women's CBB player who lost a scoring record because an ESPN archivist counted her points and she came up one-two short? There was a "This is Sportscenter" commercial parodying it in which the player foiled a Sportscenter anchor's attempt to break the record for consecutive shows.

My google skills are failing me, but I'm sure one of the sports savants on this board knows what I'm talking about.

 

[psychobillies]

Y'all do know that they review each game every week and make stat changes all of the time, right? Are some of you suggesting that they should make an exception here because a record is involved? This is why they review the games.

 

[Milkman]

Yes I am because if he did think he had the record I pretty sure he would have played one series in the second half to get it. He might say he doesn't care but thats balderdash.

 

[bcat01]

When I saw that he broke it by 1 yard the first thing I thought of was what if there is a stat correction. Changes happen all the time and this one should be changed.

 

[Shutout]

When I saw that he broke it by 1 yard the first thing I thought of was what if there is a stat correction. Changes happen all the time and this one should be changed.

Yup. I posted in one of the threads here that Brees will be waiting for MFL's Thursday stat corrections (As a joke of course), but, yeah, I don't see why some peope are getting so uptight about this. It happens EVERY WEEK.

 

[JuniorNB]

I'm really surprised that no one within the Manning/Broncos camp realized that the lateral might come into question. And had him throw a 10 yard pass for some padding.

 

[Shutout]

Manning is about to lose the all time passing record, NFL is reviewing a 7 yard pass to Decker, from the replay, it is clearly a backward pass.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1906402-peyton-mannings-single-season-passing-yard-record-under-nfl-review (Link is complete with video and image)

The NFL is questioning this and fromt he looks he will not hold the record, to be honest in the replay ESPN showed, I'm shocked that the official scorer didn't see it in real time. Someone just hoping he got the record for sure.

Again, Manning screwed himself by coming out of the game.

Perfect season and now passing yardage record. Learn from this teams.

Some records are too precious to pull players, especially when pulling players do not assure you a title.

So nothing has beendecided yet? Why post this prematurely. Couldn't wait huh? Gotta be the first one to post something.......

Seems thread worthy to me.

Absolutely. Its interesting on many levels. As a football fan, this is a big record. I am certain it will be mentioned on the mainstream sports media.

This type of review happens every week in the NFL. The people are doing their job so I don't get the sentiment from some saying "ahh just let it go, etc" because you can bet your bottom dollar, if this was some quirky play that had 10-20 fbg members' titles on the lines, there would be a 10 page thread on it already, arguing t back and forth.

I guess as the old saying going, it depends on whose ox is getting gored as to whether it is important or not but to me, I just want it to be correct. If he broke the record, fine. If he didn't then Brees still needs to hold it until it is broken and then all the Broncos owners can be happy next year when they clearly try to run up the stats to chase this thing that so many people say isn't important to Manning. uh huh.

 

[Shutout]

I'm really surprised that no one within the Manning/Broncos camp realized that the lateral might come into question. And had him throw a 10 yard pass for some padding.

Even if they didn't find that play questionable at all, I thought they would pad another 20-30 yards on for good measure. It was clear it was their goal. You would think since they were risking players to get it unecessarily, they would have made certain of it.

 

[lod01]

The play stands....if you change that then do you take the Chargers out of the playoffs and put Pittsburgh in?

The play was called a pass on the field, it wasn't reviewed then and it's history.

No,way they change that.

insane in so many ways. Dude they do this every week after the games. And what the hell does that have to do with missing a call on the field in San Diego?.

 

[pizzatyme]

Is the stat change major AND significant?

 

[lod01]

Y'all do know that they review each game every week and make stat changes all of the time, right? Are some of you suggesting that they should make an exception here because a record is involved? This is why they review the games.

yeah that's what some are suggesting.

 

[Amused to Death]

The play stands....if you change that then do you take the Chargers out of the playoffs and put Pittsburgh in?

The play was called a pass on the field, it wasn't reviewed then and it's history.

No,way they change that.

insane in so many ways. Dude they do this every week after the games. And what the hell does that have to do with missing a call on the field in San Diego?.

Yeah it really wasn't called a "pass" on the field, it was called a touchdown. The statistician recorded it as a "pass". They correct stat errors every week.

 

[unckeyherb]

so that would result in a loss of passing yardage and 1 passing td?

 

[Raiderfan32904]

What does it matter? Does anyone think this is a record that's going to stand for long? In this watered down NFL, where defenders can't touch WR's and QBs have skirts on, I think 6000 yards is inevitable.

 

[dansav]

Hope no one in a ppr league had decker win there Super Bowl by 1 pt.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Couldn't have happened to a bigger on field annoyance than Manning.

 

[Braktastic]

NFL doesn't have the cojones to do that to The Forehead.

 

[solorca]

If the NFL doesn't change it, they should be ashamed of themselves. It is clearly a lateral and just like any other play in any other week, a stat correction is the right move.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Is the stat change major AND significant?

Give him a break. Those were the two biggest words he could think of.

 

[lod01]

What does it matter? Does anyone think this is a record that's going to stand for long? In this watered down NFL, where defenders can't touch WR's and QBs have skirts on, I think 6000 yards is inevitable.

This is true.

 

[Snotbubbles]

The play stands....if you change that then do you take the Chargers out of the playoffs and put Pittsburgh in?

The play was called a pass on the field, it wasn't reviewed then and it's history.

No,way they change that.

They aren't changing the result of the play (a 7 yard gain), they are changing the way it is scored (pass to rush). They do it all the time.

 

[Mario Kart]

If no stat change... *

 

[lod01]

If no stat change... *

You should get some action with that post. It's kinda funny because Manning himself knows it was a lateral and will know that he really doesn't own the record. He did not seem like a happy camper when the 2nd half started.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Manning is about to lose the all time passing record, NFL is reviewing a 7 yard pass to Decker, from the replay, it is clearly a backward pass.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1906402-peyton-mannings-single-season-passing-yard-record-under-nfl-review (Link is complete with video and image)

The NFL is questioning this and fromt he looks he will not hold the record, to be honest in the replay ESPN showed, I'm shocked that the official scorer didn't see it in real time. Someone just hoping he got the record for sure.

Again, Manning screwed himself by coming out of the game.

Perfect season and now passing yardage record. Learn from this teams.

Some records are too precious to pull players, especially when pulling players do not assure you a title.

Mike Klis is going a little nuts there.

If it was a run it was a run, have to call it like it is.

That's a great gif. He throws it from the DEN 49 back to the DEN 47-48, clear as day. Run.

 

[psychobillies]

Yes I am because if he did think he had the record I pretty sure he would have played one series in the second half to get it. He might say he doesn't care but thats balderdash.

Oh, so now we are going to make assumptions about what could have happened?

Manning comes back in throws a pick, get's hit and hurts his neck and never throws another pass. You have to actually break a record in order to break a record. I don't understand how anyone can have a problem with this.

It was a great season, he passed Marino for second place and broke Brady's TD record. I'm sure he'll be OK.

 

[Insein]

I can guarantee that Peyton doesn't care. He'll just try to go out and break it next year.

 

[jurb26]

Anyone who thinks Manning doesn't care I'd naive and crazy. He cares. 99% of the players in the NFL care about records. The are competitive to the core. Why fans care to argue about chasing stats or stat whoring or whatever you want to call it is beyond me.

That was a lateral and the record should be lost.

 

[pizzatyme]

There's a lot of bad schtick going on in here.

 

[Warrior]

Anyone who thinks Manning doesn't care I'd naive and crazy. He cares. 99% of the players in the NFL care about records. The are competitive to the core. Why fans care to argue about chasing stats or stat whoring or whatever you want to call it is beyond me.

That was a lateral and the record should be lost.

Manning doesn't care much.

It's nerds on fantasy football message boards that really care about this stuff. Trust me, this doesn't keep Manning up at night while he sleeps on his bed of $$$ and fame.

Stat corrections happen all the time, and I'm sure Peyton knows that. If he truly cared, he would have come out in the 3rd Q to pad his stats. He only played until half time because he clearly didn't care much about the yards record.

 

[lod01]

Anyone who thinks Manning doesn't care I'd naive and crazy. He cares. 99% of the players in the NFL care about records. The are competitive to the core. Why fans care to argue about chasing stats or stat whoring or whatever you want to call it is beyond me.

That was a lateral and the record should be lost.

Manning doesn't care much.

It's nerds on fantasy football message boards that really care about this stuff. Trust me, this doesn't keep Manning up at night while he sleeps on his bed of $$$ and fame.

Stat corrections happen all the time, and I'm sure Peyton knows that. If he truly cared, he would have come out in the 3rd Q to pad his stats. He only played until half time because he clearly didn't care much about the yards record.

He cared enough to beat it by 1 yard, didn't he?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Anyone who thinks Manning doesn't care I'd naive and crazy. He cares. 99% of the players in the NFL care about records. The are competitive to the core. Why fans care to argue about chasing stats or stat whoring or whatever you want to call it is beyond me.

That was a lateral and the record should be lost.

Manning doesn't care much.

It's nerds on fantasy football message boards that really care about this stuff. Trust me, this doesn't keep Manning up at night while he sleeps on his bed of $$$ and fame.

Stat corrections happen all the time, and I'm sure Peyton knows that. If he truly cared, he would have come out in the 3rd Q to pad his stats. He only played until half time because he clearly didn't care much about the yards record.

He cared enough to beat it by 1 yard, didn't he?

Pffft. He cares, he cares a lot.

I'm not so sure he beats it next year, he may not even get to 5000, only one guy has done that even twice.

 

[Adam Harstad]

I think they should let it stand. He obviously would've eclipsed the record anyway had it been ruled a lateral in the game. If I am Drew Brees, I am calling up the NFL and telling them to let it stand. I wouldn't want to hold the record because of a technicality.

The Elias Sports Bureau should not be in the business of deciding who does and does not deserve to hold records. If it were any other player in any other game, there would be no question that a stat correction was forthcoming; there should be no question that a stat correction is (rightly) forthcoming in this case, too.

 

[Milkman]

So Manning loses out on the record because the refs incorrectly ruled the play a forward pass? That's just dumb. Especially considering the way the game was going.

 

[moleculo]

Anyone who thinks Manning doesn't care I'd naive and crazy. He cares. 99% of the players in the NFL care about records. The are competitive to the core. Why fans care to argue about chasing stats or stat whoring or whatever you want to call it is beyond me.

That was a lateral and the record should be lost.

Manning doesn't care much.

It's nerds on fantasy football message boards that really care about this stuff. Trust me, this doesn't keep Manning up at night while he sleeps on his bed of $$$ and fame.

Stat corrections happen all the time, and I'm sure Peyton knows that. If he truly cared, he would have come out in the 3rd Q to pad his stats. He only played until half time because he clearly didn't care much about the yards record.

He cared enough to beat it by 1 yard, didn't he?

or, to come out at halftime?

 

[moleculo]

So Manning loses out on the record because the refs incorrectly ruled the play a forward pass? That's just dumb. Especially considering the way the game was going.

the refs don't rule anything like that on the field. stat corrections like this happen every week.

 

[Milkman]

Anyone who thinks Manning doesn't care I'd naive and crazy. He cares. 99% of the players in the NFL care about records. The are competitive to the core. Why fans care to argue about chasing stats or stat whoring or whatever you want to call it is beyond me.

That was a lateral and the record should be lost.

Manning doesn't care much.

It's nerds on fantasy football message boards that really care about this stuff. Trust me, this doesn't keep Manning up at night while he sleeps on his bed of $$$ and fame.

Stat corrections happen all the time, and I'm sure Peyton knows that. If he truly cared, he would have come out in the 3rd Q to pad his stats. He only played until half time because he clearly didn't care much about the yards record.

He cared enough to beat it by 1 yard, didn't he?

or, to come out at halftime?

Dude he came out at halftime because according to the official scoring he had already set the record.

 

[BoltBacker]

Does it really matter? With the direction the rules are being enforced I can't help but think that at least 2-3 guys are going to get 60+ very soon before I stop paying attention to football. It's nearly impossible for any team to play defense at this point.