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Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died... (2 Viewers)

COuld someone answer this please. If Notre Dame thought that Manti was being set up for some extortion attempt like the AD suggested, then why not go to the authorities? Wouldnt that be protocol? Notre Dame has some serious explaining to do as well but from the AD statements today they are checking out.
I don't go to the authorities every time I get a scam e-mail. One time I received a fake BOA check and didn't go to the authorities, I took it to BOA for them to investigate as they saw fit.
Are you at one of the most prestigious football factories in the NCAA and are you a Heisman finalist and potential top 10 pick?
 
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Apparently, "Lennay Kekua" tried to rekindle their love in the December 6 phone call where Te'o found out she wasn't dead. No, she had to fake her death because she was eluding drug dealers, according to Te'o (as reported by the Honolulu Star Advertiser).
"The account was shared with the Star-Advertiser by a source close to the Te‘o family."lololololololololololololol
 
Apparently, "Lennay Kekua" tried to rekindle their love in the December 6 phone call where Te'o found out she wasn't dead. No, she had to fake her death because she was eluding drug dealers, according to Te'o (as reported by the Honolulu Star Advertiser).
I thought the Star-Advertiser was blackballed by Manti's father
except when it suits him and his interestsSeriously though, given everything that has happened in the past 72 hours why in the holy hell would the Star-Advertiser run a story solely based on a source close to the Te‘o family? To me that is inconceivable. You would think at this point in time newspapers and other outlets would have their stuff buttoned up.
 
Damning evidence in this timeline:

-- Dec. 6: Te'o learns the online relationship was a hoax, according to reports in January.

Swarbrick said Wednesday that Manti Te'o had no hint that the love, the leukemia, the death was anything but authentic until Dec. 6, when he received a text in Lake Buena Vista, Fla., while attending the Home Depot College Football Awards Show.

Te'o received a phone call from a number he recognized as having been that he associated with Lennay Kekua, Swarbrick said. When he answered it, it was a person whose voice sounded like the same voice he had talked to, who told him that she was, in fact, not dead.

-- Dec. 8: Te'o is in New York City with his parents to attend the Heisman Trophy ceremony. Te'o, a finalist for the award, finishes runner-up to Johnny Manziel.

In an interview in New York with news media, including WSBT-TV, before the ceremony, Te'o was asked about his charity work, including Relay for Life, a cancer organization.

"I worked with the Relay for Life stuff since I really got hit with cancer," he said. "I don't like cancer at all since I lost both my grandparents and my girlfriend to cancer."

-- Dec. 10: Los Angeles Times columnist Bill Dwyre reports Teo's account of why he played a few days after he found out his girlfriend had died, and on the day she supposedly was buried:

"He said girlfriend Lennay Kekau 'made me promise, when it happened, that I would stay and play,' Te'o said Sunday night (Dec. 9)." The interview occurred while Te'o was in Newport, Beach, Calif., as a nominee at the Lott Impact Awards dinner.
 
News outlets passing along Te'o's or his family members' stories as if they are facts need to take a step back and consider how incredibly stupid they're being.

 
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Apparently, "Lennay Kekua" tried to rekindle their love in the December 6 phone call where Te'o found out she wasn't dead. No, she had to fake her death because she was eluding drug dealers, according to Te'o (as reported by the Honolulu Star Advertiser).
According to the account, Te'o asked the woman to transmit a photo to him with a date stamp, which she did
Meanwhile, remember this bit from the Deadspin article:
All of those photographs—with one important exception—came from the private Facebook and Instagram accounts of Reba, whom we found after an exhaustive related-images search of each of Lennay's images (most of which had been modified in some way to prevent reverse image searching). We sent her a number of photographs that had appeared on Lennay's Twitter account, which is now private but apparently still active (see this retweet, for instance). One picture in particular brought Reba to a start. It had been used briefly as @LoveMSMK's Twitter avatar and later in the background of the page (we've blurred out the face, at Reba's request):

That photo hadn't appeared on the internet—at least, not to Reba's knowledge. She had taken it in December 2012 and sent it directly to an old high school acquaintance. The two hadn't talked since graduation, but the classmate, whom Reba remembered fondly, contacted her on Facebook with a somewhat convoluted request: His cousin had been in a serious car accident, and he had seen her photos before and thought she was pretty. Would she be so kind as to take a picture of herself holding up a sign reading "MSMK," to put in a slideshow to support the cousin's recovery? (He didn't explain what MSMK meant, and Reba still doesn't know.) Baffled but trusting, Reba made the sign and sent along the photo.
 
Damning evidence in this timeline:

-- Dec. 6: Te'o learns the online relationship was a hoax, according to reports in January.

Swarbrick said Wednesday that Manti Te'o had no hint that the love, the leukemia, the death was anything but authentic until Dec. 6, when he received a text in Lake Buena Vista, Fla., while attending the Home Depot College Football Awards Show.

Te'o received a phone call from a number he recognized as having been that he associated with Lennay Kekua, Swarbrick said. When he answered it, it was a person whose voice sounded like the same voice he had talked to, who told him that she was, in fact, not dead.

-- Dec. 8: Te'o is in New York City with his parents to attend the Heisman Trophy ceremony. Te'o, a finalist for the award, finishes runner-up to Johnny Manziel.

In an interview in New York with news media, including WSBT-TV, before the ceremony, Te'o was asked about his charity work, including Relay for Life, a cancer organization.

"I worked with the Relay for Life stuff since I really got hit with cancer," he said. "I don't like cancer at all since I lost both my grandparents and my girlfriend to cancer."

-- Dec. 10: Los Angeles Times columnist Bill Dwyre reports Teo's account of why he played a few days after he found out his girlfriend had died, and on the day she supposedly was buried:

"He said girlfriend Lennay Kekau 'made me promise, when it happened, that I would stay and play,' Te'o said Sunday night (Dec. 9)." The interview occurred while Te'o was in Newport, Beach, Calif., as a nominee at the Lott Impact Awards dinner.
Then its simply. Manti just needs to give up the phone records. Easy enough.
 
Apparently, "Lennay Kekua" tried to rekindle their love in the December 6 phone call where Te'o found out she wasn't dead. No, she had to fake her death because she was eluding drug dealers, according to Te'o (as reported by the Honolulu Star Advertiser).
I thought the Star-Advertiser was blackballed by Manti's father
except when it suits him and his interestsSeriously though, given everything that has happened in the past 72 hours why in the holy hell would the Star-Advertiser run a story solely based on a source close to the Te‘o family? To me that is inconceivable. You would think at this point in time newspapers and other outlets would have their stuff buttoned up.
It's comical. But I guess they get to slap "Exclusive" across the top and get a bunch of page views, so that's all that matters.
 
Apparently, "Lennay Kekua" tried to rekindle their love in the December 6 phone call where Te'o found out she wasn't dead. No, she had to fake her death because she was eluding drug dealers, according to Te'o (as reported by the Honolulu Star Advertiser).
According to the account, Te'o asked the woman to transmit a photo to him with a date stamp, which she did
Meanwhile, remember this bit from the Deadspin article:
All of those photographs—with one important exception—came from the private Facebook and Instagram accounts of Reba, whom we found after an exhaustive related-images search of each of Lennay's images (most of which had been modified in some way to prevent reverse image searching). We sent her a number of photographs that had appeared on Lennay's Twitter account, which is now private but apparently still active (see this retweet, for instance). One picture in particular brought Reba to a start. It had been used briefly as @LoveMSMK's Twitter avatar and later in the background of the page (we've blurred out the face, at Reba's request):

That photo hadn't appeared on the internet—at least, not to Reba's knowledge. She had taken it in December 2012 and sent it directly to an old high school acquaintance. The two hadn't talked since graduation, but the classmate, whom Reba remembered fondly, contacted her on Facebook with a somewhat convoluted request: His cousin had been in a serious car accident, and he had seen her photos before and thought she was pretty. Would she be so kind as to take a picture of herself holding up a sign reading "MSMK," to put in a slideshow to support the cousin's recovery? (He didn't explain what MSMK meant, and Reba still doesn't know.) Baffled but trusting, Reba made the sign and sent along the photo.
Dec 2012?
 
COuld someone answer this please.

If Notre Dame thought that Manti was being set up for some extortion attempt like the AD suggested, then why not go to the authorities? Wouldnt that be protocol?

Notre Dame has some serious explaining to do as well but from the AD statements today they are checking out.
I don't go to the authorities every time I get a scam e-mail. One time I received a fake BOA check and didn't go to the authorities, I took it to BOA for them to investigate as they saw fit.
Are you at one of the most prestigious football factories in the NCAA and are you a Heisman finalist and potential top 10 pick?
I'm sorry, I didn't realize what constitutes a crime v. scam depended on what university you attended. I guess if he attended NCState it wouldn't be as big of a deal.
 
COuld someone answer this please.

If Notre Dame thought that Manti was being set up for some extortion attempt like the AD suggested, then why not go to the authorities? Wouldnt that be protocol?

Notre Dame has some serious explaining to do as well but from the AD statements today they are checking out.
I don't go to the authorities every time I get a scam e-mail. One time I received a fake BOA check and didn't go to the authorities, I took it to BOA for them to investigate as they saw fit.
Are you at one of the most prestigious football factories in the NCAA and are you a Heisman finalist and potential top 10 pick?
I'm sorry, I didn't realize what constitutes a crime v. scam depended on what university you attended. I guess if he attended NCState it wouldn't be as big of a deal.
wah?The dude is in line for a huge payday, the AD initially thought that this might be some sort of extortion attempt (his words). Why not go to the authorities? If you thought someone was shaking down your star player wouldnt you go to the cops/feds?

Are you really have this hard of a time grasping that?

 
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Apparently, "Lennay Kekua" tried to rekindle their love in the December 6 phone call where Te'o found out she wasn't dead. No, she had to fake her death because she was eluding drug dealers, according to Te'o (as reported by the Honolulu Star Advertiser).
According to the account, Te'o asked the woman to transmit a photo to him with a date stamp, which she did
Meanwhile, remember this bit from the Deadspin article:
All of those photographs—with one important exception—came from the private Facebook and Instagram accounts of Reba, whom we found after an exhaustive related-images search of each of Lennay's images (most of which had been modified in some way to prevent reverse image searching). We sent her a number of photographs that had appeared on Lennay's Twitter account, which is now private but apparently still active (see this retweet, for instance). One picture in particular brought Reba to a start. It had been used briefly as @LoveMSMK's Twitter avatar and later in the background of the page (we've blurred out the face, at Reba's request):

That photo hadn't appeared on the internet—at least, not to Reba's knowledge. She had taken it in December 2012 and sent it directly to an old high school acquaintance. The two hadn't talked since graduation, but the classmate, whom Reba remembered fondly, contacted her on Facebook with a somewhat convoluted request: His cousin had been in a serious car accident, and he had seen her photos before and thought she was pretty. Would she be so kind as to take a picture of herself holding up a sign reading "MSMK," to put in a slideshow to support the cousin's recovery? (He didn't explain what MSMK meant, and Reba still doesn't know.) Baffled but trusting, Reba made the sign and sent along the photo.
Dec 2012?
Yep, that's the photo that brought the whole charade down.
 
COuld someone answer this please.

If Notre Dame thought that Manti was being set up for some extortion attempt like the AD suggested, then why not go to the authorities? Wouldnt that be protocol?

Notre Dame has some serious explaining to do as well but from the AD statements today they are checking out.
I don't go to the authorities every time I get a scam e-mail. One time I received a fake BOA check and didn't go to the authorities, I took it to BOA for them to investigate as they saw fit.
Are you at one of the most prestigious football factories in the NCAA and are you a Heisman finalist and potential top 10 pick?
I'm sorry, I didn't realize what constitutes a crime v. scam depended on what university you attended. I guess if he attended NCState it wouldn't be as big of a deal.
wah?The dude is in line for a huge payday, the AD initially thought that this might be some sort of extortion attempt (his words). Why not go to the authorities? If you thought someone was shaking down your star player wouldnt you go to the cops/feds?

Are you really have this hard of a time grasping that?
So was Russell Wilson when O'Brien extorted him. Did Yow go to the authorities?
 
No way David Dodds is real.
facebook.com/DavidDodds/status-update: "My daughter keeps telling people I'm real, but they think it's a faux pa."
His Facebook account is just a lame promotion for Status Shuffle.
No, he is real. This was before him and Joe. I don't think Joe was even in the picture, but he and I became good friends. We would talk off and on, just checking up on each other kind of thing. I am close to his family. That was just from meeting him in Vegas. He was ballin. Volleyball-type of physique (No, not volleyball player. Volleyball). He was athleticish, baldish, beautifulish. Thin hair. Albino. He looked like a jersey model.
 
No way David Dodds is real.
facebook.com/DavidDodds/status-update: "My daughter keeps telling people I'm real, but they think it's a faux pa."
His Facebook account is just a lame promotion for Status Shuffle.
No, he is real. This was before him and Joe. I don't think Joe was even in the picture, but he and I became good friends. We would talk off and on, just checking up on each other kind of thing. I am close to his family. That was just from meeting him in Vegas. He was ballin. Volleyball-type of physique (No, not volleyball player. Volleyball). He was athleticish, baldish, beautifulish. Thin hair. Albino. He looked like a jersey model.
Okay, you're fake then.
 
No way David Dodds is real.
facebook.com/DavidDodds/status-update: "My daughter keeps telling people I'm real, but they think it's a faux pa."
His Facebook account is just a lame promotion for Status Shuffle.
No, he is real. This was before him and Joe. I don't think Joe was even in the picture, but he and I became good friends. We would talk off and on, just checking up on each other kind of thing. I am close to his family. That was just from meeting him in Vegas. He was ballin. Volleyball-type of physique (No, not volleyball player. Volleyball). He was athleticish, baldish, beautifulish. Thin hair. Albino. He looked like a jersey model.
:lmao: :lmao:
 
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Fair question. Is there any evidence that she didn't?

There is evidence that there is a woman that used the fake name to meet another football player. Is it crazy for me to think this same girl also met Manti and talked to him on the phone? `

It's entirely possible that you're right and Manti and Tuiasospo have scammed me too. It's a crazy ### story. I'm still on the Manti got fished + lied side because of the Notre Dame AD. I have a hard time believing he would put his own credibility on the line for a kid that is leaving the school.
By his own admission now, he never met her. The AD clearly said that "met" in this sense meant meeting online.
:lol: Through that whole conversation, that's what you're stuck on? My apologies, now did you finish the sentence? It is possible he actually talked to a female on the phone, right?Watch the Shelly Smith report. She says the woman that Ronaih admitted to said that he and his cousinS, a male and FEMALE, would talk on the phone with him.

 
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'Mr. Pickles said:
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No way David Dodds is real.
facebook.com/DavidDodds/status-update: "My daughter keeps telling people I'm real, but they think it's a faux pa."
His Facebook account is just a lame promotion for Status Shuffle.
No, he is real. This was before him and Joe. I don't think Joe was even in the picture, but he and I became good friends. We would talk off and on, just checking up on each other kind of thing. I am close to his family. That was just from meeting him in Vegas. He was ballin. Volleyball-type of physique (No, not volleyball player. Volleyball). He was athleticish, baldish, beautifulish. Thin hair. Albino. He looked like a jersey model.
:lmao:
 
Manti Te’o is in the process of giving his first interview since this week’s shocking news broke that the story of his girlfriend dying during his senior season at Notre Dame was a hoax. But it’s an interview that is likely to raise more questions than answers.

ESPN confirmed on Friday night that Te’o was sitting down with reporter Jeremy Schaap. That Schaap was chosen as the first interviewer Te’o would sit with is not surprising, as reports surfaced this week that Schaap and Te’o would be sitting down together.

But what is surprising is that ESPN also confirmed that Schaap and Te’o are having an off-camera interview. That is bizarre. ESPN is a TV network and Schaap is a TV interviewer. Obviously, ESPN would prefer to get his interview on camera, so that must have been a demand from Te’o and his camp. But why, if Te’o is simply an innocent victim of a hoax — as he and Notre Dame have insisted is the case — wouldn’t he want to face the cameras and tell the whole truth?

Even more surprising is that ESPN released a photo of Schaap sitting down with Te’o and Te’o's attorney. If Te’o is simply an innocent victim of a hoax, why does he need to have an attorney present before he can answer any questions?

Also odd is that Te’o decided to do this on a Friday night: It’s right out of the damage control P.R. playbook to put out damaging information on a Friday evening and hope that the information will get lost in the weekend’s news. But, again: If Te’o is simply an innocent victim of a hoax, what damaging information is this interview going to uncover?

We simply don’t know, and until we hear what Schaap and Te’o talked about, we’ll have more questions than answers.

And with this bizarre story, it’s safe to say that even after we hear what Schaap and Te’o talked about, we’ll have more questions than answers.
 
Manti Te’o is in the process of giving his first interview since this week’s shocking news broke that the story of his girlfriend dying during his senior season at Notre Dame was a hoax. But it’s an interview that is likely to raise more questions than answers.

ESPN confirmed on Friday night that Te’o was sitting down with reporter Jeremy Schaap. That Schaap was chosen as the first interviewer Te’o would sit with is not surprising, as reports surfaced this week that Schaap and Te’o would be sitting down together.

But what is surprising is that ESPN also confirmed that Schaap and Te’o are having an off-camera interview. That is bizarre. ESPN is a TV network and Schaap is a TV interviewer. Obviously, ESPN would prefer to get his interview on camera, so that must have been a demand from Te’o and his camp. But why, if Te’o is simply an innocent victim of a hoax — as he and Notre Dame have insisted is the case — wouldn’t he want to face the cameras and tell the whole truth?

Even more surprising is that ESPN released a photo of Schaap sitting down with Te’o and Te’o's attorney. If Te’o is simply an innocent victim of a hoax, why does he need to have an attorney present before he can answer any questions?

Also odd is that Te’o decided to do this on a Friday night: It’s right out of the damage control P.R. playbook to put out damaging information on a Friday evening and hope that the information will get lost in the weekend’s news. But, again: If Te’o is simply an innocent victim of a hoax, what damaging information is this interview going to uncover?

We simply don’t know, and until we hear what Schaap and Te’o talked about, we’ll have more questions than answers.

And with this bizarre story, it’s safe to say that even after we hear what Schaap and Te’o talked about, we’ll have more questions than answers.
Not playing it very well.
 
Manti Te'o denied being part of a hoax involving a relationship with a person online whom he considered his girlfriend, during an interview with ESPN on Friday night."No. Never," Te'o said in an interview with ESPN's Jeremy Schaap."I wasn't faking it," he said. "I wasn't part of this."Te'o also said that he did not make up anything to help his Heisman Trophy candidacy."When (people) hear the facts, they'll know," he said. "They'll know that there is no way that I could be part of this."
 
Manti Te'o denied being part of a hoax involving a relationship with a person online whom he considered his girlfriend, during an interview with ESPN on Friday night.

"No. Never," Te'o said in an interview with ESPN's Jeremy Schaap.

"I wasn't faking it," he said. "I wasn't part of this."

Te'o also said that he did not make up anything to help his Heisman Trophy candidacy.

"When (people) hear the facts, they'll know," he said. "They'll know that there is no way that I could be part of this."
I guess those "facts" Te'o is talking about are still in the preliminary stages of being developed?
 
Manti Te'o denied being part of a hoax involving a relationship with a person online whom he considered his girlfriend, during an interview with ESPN on Friday night."No. Never," Te'o said in an interview with ESPN's Jeremy Schaap."I wasn't faking it," he said. "I wasn't part of this."Te'o also said that he did not make up anything to help his Heisman Trophy candidacy."When (people) hear the facts, they'll know," he said. "They'll know that there is no way that I could be part of this."
Oof.
 
After reading more - I think he was embarrassed by meeting her online and not really knowing "her". He said he lied to his parents, hence their confusion. I think he was just too embarrassed by the whole thing when things started panning out that he had no idea what to do. I think he may have played up some things or maybe thought them in his mind but I don't think was part of an elaborate hoax :shrug:

 
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After reading more - I think he was embarrassed by meeting her online and not really knowing "her". He said he lied to his parents, hence their confusion. I think he was just too embarrassed by the whole thing when things started panning out that he had no idea what to do. I think he may have played up some things or maybe thought them in his mind but I don't think was part of an elaborate hoax :shrug:
No Skype? No stop to visit when she's dying and he's on Spring Break?
 
After reading more - I think he was embarrassed by meeting her online and not really knowing "her". He said he lied to his parents, hence their confusion. I think he was just too embarrassed by the whole thing when things started panning out that he had no idea what to do. I think he may have played up some things or maybe thought them in his mind but I don't think was part of an elaborate hoax :shrug:
No Skype? No stop to visit when she's dying and he's on Spring Break?
Something still isn't right about this. He is covering something up. He is a hell of an actor before andafter all of this.
 
After reading more - I think he was embarrassed by meeting her online and not really knowing "her". He said he lied to his parents, hence their confusion. I think he was just too embarrassed by the whole thing when things started panning out that he had no idea what to do. I think he may have played up some things or maybe thought them in his mind but I don't think was part of an elaborate hoax :shrug:
No Skype? No stop to visit when she's dying and he's on Spring Break?
...
Te'o told ESPN he tried to speak with Kekua via Skype and Facetime, but person at other end of the line was in a "black box" and wasn't seen
 
A few more tweets from various reporters:

Schaap: Te'o was not fully convinced the girl didn't exist until TWO DAYS AGO, when Tuiasasopo apologized.
:mellow:
Manti Te'o tells ESPN he lied to father about meeting Lennay Kekua. Brian Te'o then told reporters they'd met and it spiraled from there
Manti Te'o to ESPN: "I knew it was crazy that I was with somebody I didn't meet."
 
I'm starting to come around on the theory that Te'o is a gigantic dummy.
This is beginning to look like the most plausible. If he wants a front for being gay, this is a very high profile and risky move. Same with the argument that he was in on the hoax to boost his Heisman chances. Reading about the Ashley York stories in the other thread, and hearing stories from callers into a local radio station (highly touted prospects getting scammed by i-girls) I guess once a guy is emotionally hooked, has told a bunch of people (in Teo's case the whole nation) they start making excuses up to save face.
 

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