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Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died... (5 Viewers)

To address GPJ's question from a few pages back, being duped to this degree is FAR worse than being complicit in the scam.

Your middle linebacker typically has to be one of the smartest guys on your defense.

The question for GMs becomes, does naive = unintelligent in a football context.
He must've had a really easy courseload, or someone "helping" him out. Which isn't to throw shade at ND specifically, but the entire college/athlete system.
You can't hold a college and it's athletes responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole college and athletic system? And if the whole college and athletic system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to Teo, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America!
I'm not going to get into my standard rant here, but I think the idea of "amateur athletics" is, by and large, hooey.The Euro footy teams got it right over us on this one, I'm afraid.

 
To address GPJ's question from a few pages back, being duped to this degree is FAR worse than being complicit in the scam.

Your middle linebacker typically has to be one of the smartest guys on your defense.

The question for GMs becomes, does naive = unintelligent in a football context.
He must've had a really easy courseload, or someone "helping" him out. Which isn't to throw shade at ND specifically, but the entire college/athlete system.
You can't hold a college and it's athletes responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole college and athletic system? And if the whole college and athletic system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to Teo, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America!
I'm not going to get into my standard rant here, but I think the idea of "amateur athletics" is, by and large, hooey.The Euro footy teams got it right over us on this one, I'm afraid.
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So the people who said you could DEFINITELY tell this was a guy pretending to be a girl may have been wrong?

 
Is there some kind of time stamp on those phone calls?They could have been made last week using transcripts.

 
I'm starting to come around on the theory that Te'o is a gigantic dummy.
This is beginning to look like the most plausible.
Yeah, I'm sticking with this.Just got done watching the Katie interview. He comes off equal parts naive, dumb and pathetic.But I believe he was never in on it.
This is where i am, and i have no idea on his grades, easy classes whatever but there are plenty of "smart" people that are dumb bastards
 
I'm starting to come around on the theory that Te'o is a gigantic dummy.
This is beginning to look like the most plausible.
Yeah, I'm sticking with this.Just got done watching the Katie interview. He comes off equal parts naive, dumb and pathetic.But I believe he was never in on it.
This is where i am, and i have no idea on his grades, easy classes whatever but there are plenty of "smart" people that are dumb bastards
Fred Sanford would have a good name for him.
 
So the people who said you could DEFINITELY tell this was a guy pretending to be a girl may have been wrong?
No way pantherclub could be wrong. Every possible definitive assertion he's made all along has been proven true.
and you?
Find one false assumption on my part in the thread.
Find one for me first
hgere is what i knowyou've been banging the gay drum like you own it, and now the chick's voice you were sure was a dude is a chickI am not accusing or anything, but perhaps you should back off a tadif we know anything in this case it is that we know nothing, it gets stranger by the day
 
I'm starting to come around on the theory that Te'o is a gigantic dummy.
This is beginning to look like the most plausible.
Yeah, I'm sticking with this.Just got done watching the Katie interview. He comes off equal parts naive, dumb and pathetic.But I believe he was never in on it.
This is where i am, and i have no idea on his grades, easy classes whatever but there are plenty of "smart" people that are dumb bastards
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So the people who said you could DEFINITELY tell this was a guy pretending to be a girl may have been wrong?
No way pantherclub could be wrong. Every possible definitive assertion he's made all along has been proven true.
and you?
Find one false assumption on my part in the thread.
Find one for me first
hgere is what i knowyou've been banging the gay drum like you own it, and now the chick's voice you were sure was a dude is a chick

I am not accusing or anything, but perhaps you should back off a tad

if we know anything in this case it is that we know nothing, it gets stranger by the day
where did I say that
 
So the people who said you could DEFINITELY tell this was a guy pretending to be a girl may have been wrong?
No way pantherclub could be wrong. Every possible definitive assertion he's made all along has been proven true.
and you?
Find one false assumption on my part in the thread.
Find one for me first
hgere is what i knowyou've been banging the gay drum like you own it, and now the chick's voice you were sure was a dude is a chick

I am not accusing or anything, but perhaps you should back off a tad

if we know anything in this case it is that we know nothing, it gets stranger by the day
where did I say that
sorrymay have gotten you confused with someone else

 
If Manti Te'o was telling the truth and covering nothing up, he would have released some actual phone records. No one believes he's actually telling the truth, do they?

 
If Manti Te'o was telling the truth and covering nothing up, he would have released some actual phone records. No one believes he's actually telling the truth, do they?
I think the 'truth' is somewhat subjective. Do I think he was fooled / hoaxed? Absolutely.
 
If Manti Te'o was telling the truth and covering nothing up, he would have released some actual phone records. No one believes he's actually telling the truth, do they?
I think the 'truth' is somewhat subjective. Do I think he was fooled / hoaxed? Absolutely.
I think that's assured. Deadspin reported Tuiasosopo used the alias on someone else previously... in the initial story.
 
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This whole thing just doesn't make any sense. If he's trying to cover up being gay, that's believable, but multiple people conspiring to create a fake girlfriend, talking for hundreds of hours on the phone, involving family, lying about many things, claiming to fake being a girl when you didn't, etc. is simply insane. I don't understand why somebody would do it. What were they getting out of it? Mind blown.Either he's gay and is now getting other people to help cover it up after he figured out that his original plan was ridiculous, or all parties involved are clinically insane.

 
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This whole thing just doesn't make any sense. If he's trying to cover up being gay, that's believable, but multiple people conspiring to create a fake girlfriend, talking for hundreds of hours on the phone, involving family, lying about many things, claiming to fake being a girl when you didn't, etc. is simply insane. I don't understand why somebody would do it. What were they getting out of it? Mind blown.Either he's gay and is now getting other people to help cover it up after he figured out that his original plan was ridiculous, or all parties involved are clinically insane.
Pretend you're gay. And that you live in an insanely religious environment where coming out is more than frowned on. And that you're connected to lots of men that you'd like to talk to, but can't.Maybe Ronniah could pretend he had a real relationship that was forbidden to him any other way. And he could punch way above his weight, with a celebrity! Not saying that's how it went down, but it seems a lot more likely than Manti being in on it now.
 
'wdcrob said:
'mrip541 said:
This whole thing just doesn't make any sense. If he's trying to cover up being gay, that's believable, but multiple people conspiring to create a fake girlfriend, talking for hundreds of hours on the phone, involving family, lying about many things, claiming to fake being a girl when you didn't, etc. is simply insane. I don't understand why somebody would do it. What were they getting out of it? Mind blown.Either he's gay and is now getting other people to help cover it up after he figured out that his original plan was ridiculous, or all parties involved are clinically insane.
Pretend you're gay. And that you live in an insanely religious environment where coming out is more than frowned on. And that you're connected to lots of men that you'd like to talk to, but can't.Maybe Ronniah could pretend he had a real relationship that was forbidden to him any other way. And he could punch way above his weight, with a celebrity! Not saying that's how it went down, but it seems a lot more likely than Manti being in on it now.
A very possible reason, makes sense.But now what is the girls story? Did she love him too? Maybe they're just two jagoffs with nothing better to do.? Either way, they need to talk to a professional.
 
Tino, in her mid-20s, lives in Pago Pago, American Samoa.
Oh come the #### on.The guy's lawyer comes out and says that his client changed his voice to a woman and now some chick in Pago Pago was talking to Te'o?
 
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'wdcrob said:
'mrip541 said:
This whole thing just doesn't make any sense. If he's trying to cover up being gay, that's believable, but multiple people conspiring to create a fake girlfriend, talking for hundreds of hours on the phone, involving family, lying about many things, claiming to fake being a girl when you didn't, etc. is simply insane. I don't understand why somebody would do it. What were they getting out of it? Mind blown.Either he's gay and is now getting other people to help cover it up after he figured out that his original plan was ridiculous, or all parties involved are clinically insane.
Pretend you're gay. And that you live in an insanely religious environment where coming out is more than frowned on. And that you're connected to lots of men that you'd like to talk to, but can't.Maybe Ronniah could pretend he had a real relationship that was forbidden to him any other way. And he could punch way above his weight, with a celebrity! Not saying that's how it went down, but it seems a lot more likely than Manti being in on it now.
A very possible reason, makes sense.But now what is the girls story? Did she love him too? Maybe they're just two jagoffs with nothing better to do.? Either way, they need to talk to a professional.
Good question. We need a :throwshandsup: emoticon.
 

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