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If that part about the guy calling the N-word is true, then all bets are off in my opinion. Smart should have gone after him.
Yep. You simply don't use the word, or you get what's coming your way. This pasty old white dude should, and could, have been broken in half.
Credible sources within earshot say the N-word was involved. Whatever "superfan" said, it was heard by the refs, and bad enough to prevent the refs from ejecting Smart after he shoved a fan.
He's lost it a couple other times during the conference slate. Against K-State, he responded to some fan razzing by dunking in traffic, swinging from the rim, and slapping the backboard, drawing a technical counting for his fourth foul early in the second half of a tight game. K-State went on a big run while Smart was benched for foul trouble and the Pokes lost a game they were controlling.
If this incident transforms his reputation from whiny ##### to dangerous thug, color me impressed. I can almost picture him as a Kirk Lazarus-type lecturing floppers on fixing how others perceive them, "Everybody knows you never go full Artest...."
There is nothing inconsistent about a "rule" against physically assaulting someone for calling you a name. Smart's lucky he wasn't arrested.
It does raise a question of what he is supposed to do. Nothing happens to the guy if Smart just goes back and reports the conduct.
You have no idea if that's true. Someone posted above that others heard the fan say something.
I don't think that is true. He could report the guy and the security folks will remove him from the game and potentially get rid of his season ticket (no idea on that, if he was involved with an A&M playing before, might be a season ticket holder). They've shown that on Sportscenter highlights of people getting pointed out for stuff like throwing things or acting like an ### (guy doing BJ at baseball game).
Someone calling you a "name" doesn't give you the right to do what you like. If you played your cards right you can just act like a jerk and go around assaulting people and just make up the accusation that he called me the "n-word".
Obviously, it's his responsibility to find a way to ignore it. Dealing with hateful, idiot fans just comes with being a big-time athlete.
attack - an aggressive and violent action against a person or place
That's fine. I don't care about "attack" in a legal or technical sense.
Why not? I am perfectly fine with Smart shoving the guy. I would have been okay with Smart punching the guy in the mouth.
The fan more than likely was a butt and said something stupid. What I find kinda funny is the players and coach on TT are the same race as smart from OSU. So he's an idiot to boot!
Only problem with your scenario is that HD cameras are not everywhere, and the instigator does not have a history of this same behavior.
Oh I am pretty sure the fan said something stupid. My problem is being able to assault someone over a "word". That opens up a can for people to just do what they like and lie about it after word.
Given that superfan Orr has admitted he said something regrettable to Smart, and this is not the first time opposing teams and other fans seated nearby have spoken ill of the guy, it's pretty safe to assume Smart knew who was talking to him.
Given that Smart has a reputation as a habitual flopper and tattler on the court, it would not be easy to take his words at face value. While shoving the guy was not the ideal course of action, IMO it helps bring the full truth of the situation to light, mainly that Orr had it coming.
He'll probably be moved to center court.
I think most people are going to see a difference between mocking a guy with "nice game" and dropping the N-word.
I'm not disagreeing with you. But perhaps idiot fans shouldn't be saying certain things to players. If you do, then you're taking a risk of getting popped in the mouth.
I am certainly not defending Orr in the least here.Just going after a fan in the stands is just plain stupid no matter what was said.
The fan is denying the n-word. Obviously, he has motivation to lie about that if it actually happened, but Smart also has incentive to lie about this, as that is one of the only things that would make his conduct look remotely justifiable. Who knows.
So, a word can invoke a punch? That goes against just about everything in the legal system. Sure, my words can have an effect on me that I may not like but that does not give anyone the "right" to cross the barrier of legal/illegal activity either.
See that is what I was thinking as well. If the fan yelled that, fans from his own team would have kicked his butt. I don't doubt he was being a jerk, but as was pointed out earlier, this wasn't like a situation where the fan was pointing at him and yelling. Smart's back was to the crowd and the place was loud, so I am finding it hard he knew that this was the guy that said something.
I'm just saying that if I'm on a jury, and the facts were that the fan said something inappropriate, I'm not so sure I would convict.
