Marital Advice - Friendly camping trip too friendly? (1 Viewer)

[shuke]

Forgive me if this has already been asked, but what kind of relationship do Steve and his wife have? Is it open? If not, then I am guessing nothing happened other than a quick boob flash. Let's not forget that Steve's wife was in the bathroom. Yes, she left with George, but would Steve really have done anything knowing this wife had just been in there and knew where he was?

 

[General Malaise]

I went camping Saturday night and our campsite was across from the bathrooms (small kids in tow). I'm not gonna lie, I spent most of the night in a chair watching people going in and out, ready to be a key witness should any hanky spanky go down.Sadly, I saw nothing and fell asleep in a chair with a beer in my lap. I woke up to hideous neck pain and a wet crotch. I'm hoping it was not pee.

don't worry, somebody probably held it for you while you peed

Do I have to tell my wife?

can your mother-in-law keep a secret?

I'm one of those lucky guys who doesn't have a mother in law. My mom was there, though.

 

[urbanhack]

Forgive me if this has already been asked, but what kind of relationship do Steve and his wife have? Is it open? If not, then I am guessing nothing happened other than a quick boob flash. Let's not forget that Steve's wife was in the bathroom. Yes, she left with George, but would Steve really have done anything knowing this wife had just been in there and knew where he was?

honda?

 

[NFL Sunday Ticket]

I went camping Saturday night and our campsite was across from the bathrooms (small kids in tow). I'm not gonna lie, I spent most of the night in a chair watching people going in and out, ready to be a key witness should any hanky spanky go down.Sadly, I saw nothing and fell asleep in a chair with a beer in my lap. I woke up to hideous neck pain and a wet crotch. I'm hoping it was not pee.

don't worry, somebody probably held it for you while you peed

Do I have to tell my wife?

can your mother-in-law keep a secret?

I'm one of those lucky guys who doesn't have a mother in law. My mom was there, though.

damnit, i knew i needed to look back and double-check that.

 

[Franknbeans]

Forgive me if this has already been asked, but what kind of relationship do Steve and his wife have? Is it open? If not, then I am guessing nothing happened other than a quick boob flash. Let's not forget that Steve's wife was in the bathroom. Yes, she left with George, but would Steve really have done anything knowing this wife had just been in there and knew where he was?

Steve's a manwhore

 

[General Malaise]

Forgive me if this has already been asked, but what kind of relationship do Steve and his wife have? Is it open? If not, then I am guessing nothing happened other than a quick boob flash. Let's not forget that Steve's wife was in the bathroom. Yes, she left with George, but would Steve really have done anything knowing this wife had just been in there and knew where he was?

No, I don't think so and I think that bodes well for ManHat here.But to answer your question, we learned that Steve's wife was a fairly loose gal who liked to flirt and flaunt her sexuality, as evidenced by a party where she openly performed psuedo oral on Steve.Unclear whether or not they are "open" (I lean not), but I think she's probably a good mate for old Steve here.

 

[shuke]

Forgive me if this has already been asked, but what kind of relationship do Steve and his wife have? Is it open? If not, then I am guessing nothing happened other than a quick boob flash. Let's not forget that Steve's wife was in the bathroom. Yes, she left with George, but would Steve really have done anything knowing this wife had just been in there and knew where he was?

Steve's a manwhore

That doesn't answer whether Steve's wife is aware and/or accepting of it.

 

[shuke]

But to answer your question, we learned that Steve's wife was a fairly loose gal who liked to flirt and flaunt her sexuality, as evidenced by a party where she openly performed psuedo oral on Steve.

Performing psuedo oral on a spouse is not evidence of her being a flirt nor of the relationship being open.

 

[General Malaise]

But to answer your question, we learned that Steve's wife was a fairly loose gal who liked to flirt and flaunt her sexuality, as evidenced by a party where she openly performed psuedo oral on Steve.

Performing psuedo oral on a spouse is not evidence of her being a flirt nor of the relationship being open.

it's all i got. sorry.

 

[Spiderman]

Wow. Any chance your wife and Steve talked and got a story together before you talked to him?

What he should do is check all phone calls (cell and landline) made to Steve's phone since they came back.

 

[Spiderman]

Why would Steve use a stall if there were urinals?Why would 38DD go into stall with Steve?Why would George tell MITYH multiple times to check on 38DD, if all was ok?Why would 38DD "attempt" to grab or look at Steves junk if she wasn't interested in said junk?Why would 38DD's puppies be out of there holsters?Why would Steve and 38DD arrive at camp later than others?Why would 38DD not remember that part of the nite? Tough spot to be in MITYH. Sounds like 38DD was an active participant in the evenings goings on. I'd tell 38DD how Steve claims "she was the aggressor" and see what kind of reaction you get. GL with everything.

All very s!!

Where there's smoke, there's fire. In this case, it's a forest fire.

 

[Bonzai]

Well, it is possible however unprobable that nothing happened beyond her grabbing his johnson and him grabbing her tatas. The people that were there are all claiming nothing happened.

fixed

how do you explain the fun bags coming out of the bra and the extra 15 minutes?it seems that steve explained only the parts that he knows other people were aware of.

if george knew something was fishy, what about steve's old lady? I still don't get how steve's wife just strolls out of there with her husband in a stall with another woman. wtf is that about?

 

[Spiderman]

Sounds to me like nothing happened. A big to do about nothing.

Yes, it's normal for my wife to take a 30 minute leak with a friend of mine, and then come out with here bombs hanging out, and my other friend mentioning something going on in there.

 

[Spiderman]

Steve not showing up at the wedding is not a good sign.

Shows guilt of some kind OR looking to avoid a potential situation.

 

[SuperJohn96]

Wow. Any chance your wife and Steve talked and got a story together before you talked to him?

What he should do is check all phone calls (cell and landline) made to Steve's phone since they came back.

Hmm...

 

[Spiderman]

He already checked phone and emails and came up empty.At this point, I agree you have as much as you're going to have. I'm with bigbottom, but add counseling.

Why would his wife add counseling for something that she says didn't happen ???? That would be like admitting something went wrong (or right depending on how she thinks of Steve) in the bathroom.

 

[Third]

Wow. Any chance your wife and Steve talked and got a story together before you talked to him?

What he should do is check all phone calls (cell and landline) made to Steve's phone since they came back.

Brilliant!

 

[chet]

Why didn't Steve show at the wedding? I believe he was supposed to be there, and cancelling when he was planning on attending the week before is weird.

 

[Birdie048]

Even if Steve's wife was "playful" with George, does she know that it took Steve & 38DD 15+ min to return from the stall thay shared? Maybe her playfulness was getting back at Steve and he took it a step (or 4) further. They have a "1 upmanship" relationship where they have to beat the last thing the other did for superiority. This could clearly lead to a "swinging" lifestyle role for Steve and his wife.

I am still not sure anything more than "touching" occured. Granted, if Steve received a bit of oral and played with 38DD's assets, that is alot of stress for a marriage to take. But consider the drunken state of both parties, the limited space and the environment they were in, I very much doubt the worst case scenario is as bad a picture as has been painted here. They could have fallen down and it took them 10 min to get back up in the stall. And how "romantic" is a park bathroom? Don't want to light a candle for fear of an explosion!

I hope the counseling advice is taken. MIYH appears eager to move on to a new chapter in his life and close this out as a learning experience.

 

[3C's]

Sounds to me like nothing happened. A big to do about nothing.

Yes, it's normal for my wife to take a 30 minute leak with a friend of mine, and then come out with here bombs hanging out, and my other friend mentioning something going on in there.

It wasn't 30 minutes, and it's likely it wasn't even 15. And her "bombs" weren't hanging out then. Later on was when that was found. It could have happened at any time, not necessarily on the trip to the bathroom with the boys.

 

[Spiderman]

Here is your weekend update. What next?In a shocking twist (riiiiggghht) Steve and his wife did not make it to the wedding. It was actually a pretty good time. George was there, and I didn't learn anything new. He was the only guy there that was on the camping trip. But here's where it gets interesting.I was at my parents' house this afternoon, and Steve returned my call. My cell rang and I saw the ID, but I did not answer considering I was in the middle of a B day lunch (nephew and dad). He left a message saying he'd be around all day and to call him back. So, we drove the couple hours back home, and I dropped my wife and kids off at her parents while I went to 'unpack the car'. So, first thing I did was call Steve back. His four year old answers. Says her dad's outside, but I can talk to her mom. Sweet. So, Steve's wife gets on and we exchange hello's and chat a bit. Steve is outside mowing the lawn, but she stops him and give him the phone. Paraphrased below:Steve: Hey, what's up?Me: Well, the reason I'm calling is my wife says that your camping trip to the bathroom got a little bit out of control.Steve: Ah, well. I don't think it was out of control.Me: Oh, well, she filled me in on her version, so I'd like to hear from you what went down.Steve: Well, nothing really happened. Me: What was she doing in the stall with you?Steve: Oh, she was goofing around. Followed me in and stood behind me, then just kind of jokingly reached over when I was peeing. Nothing happened at all.Me: Well, that sounds like something. So, what happened after that?Steve: Nothing. Me: Did she take her cans out of her shirt or did you?Steve: I don't remember that happening at all.Me: Oh really? She was pretty sure she showed you her rack.Steve: I'm pretty sure I'd remember that. That didn't happen.Me: Oh. OK. Well, so she held your junk while you peed.Steve: Well, not really. She kind of got right behind me and pushed me a bit. Then leaned over and took a peak.Me: As I hear it, she was actually holding your junk, not just looking.Steve: No, I would remember that. She might've gotten a peak, but that's it.Me: Right, OK. She seems to remember things a bit differently.Steve: Dude, I swear. Nothing really went down. I didn't see her rack, and she didn't touch my junk.Me: Well, she's pretty freaked out and wants to hear what you have to say about it too.Steve: If anything would've happened, i would remember it.blah, blah, blah.....____________________________________________________So, now what. It's been confirmed that she was in the stall, and that she was standing pretty much directly pushed up against him from behind. He says she reached for his junk jokingly, but never touched it. There was no explanation given for the length of time it took to make it back to camp. I have not said a word to my wife about this yet. Interestingly, she has not said a word about this in about two days. I have barely talked to her, other than minror chit chat. That's tough during a two hour car ride. She seems like she got over her 'shock' of this pretty quick.Not sure what to do next.....

Quoting the whole thing so that the skimmers can see it...The big unknown is the cans coming out of the bra, seems to me Steve was sober enough to remember everything that happened. His response does not seem that canned, if it was he put on a good act since he got defensive and what not. Your wife can give you no more leads since she was totally drunk. Steve's story does seem to add up considering it was your wife that volunteered to tag along and was being the aggressor. My only advice to you now is just let it breath a few days, not sure how you are feeling, if you are mad at your wife at this point or more angry with Steve.

Was Steve drunk that night ? It's an effective strategy they have - Steve says nothing happened, but remembers everything....the wife remembers nothing.

 

[Birdie048]

He already checked phone and emails and came up empty.At this point, I agree you have as much as you're going to have. I'm with bigbottom, but add counseling.

Why would his wife add counseling for something that she says didn't happen ???? That would be like admitting something went wrong (or right depending on how she thinks of Steve) in the bathroom.

Adding counseling for the trust that has been damaged. Repair take time and they need a good repairman!

 

[Third]

Was Steve drunk that night ? It's an effective strategy they have - Steve says nothing happened, but remembers everything....the wife remembers nothing.

Spiderman, stop. Seriously. We're on page 54. You're a bit late to the party - this was throughly covered ad nauseum on pages 1 through 53.

 

[General Malaise]

Steve not showing up at the wedding is not a good sign.

Shows guilt of some kind OR looking to avoid a potential situation.

or he and his family simply couldn't make it. there was a chance of that before all this went down, no?

 

[Spiderman]

Wow. Any chance your wife and Steve talked and got a story together before you talked to him?

What he should do is check all phone calls (cell and landline) made to Steve's phone since they came back.

Brilliant!

You're going to have to get over somebody not reading all 54 pages of this thread. That would be more ridiculous than me repeating an earlier suggestion.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Sounds to me like nothing happened. A big to do about nothing.

Yes, it's normal for my wife to take a 30 minute leak with a friend of mine, and then come out with here bombs hanging out, and my other friend mentioning something going on in there.

It was 15 minutes, and even MITYH admits that he was not sure exactly how long they were gone. And she didn't notice her jubblies were out of their containers until it was about an hour or so later, and she told MITHY about it (if she were guilty of impropriety, why bother telling him?). Steve's story matched up with what George said, and it is quite possible that the worse thing that happened here is the MITYH's wife joked around about holding Steve's magic wand. I would just chalk this up to her having a few too many drinks and move on.

 

[PsychoMan]

Your convo with Steve went as expected, but you forgot to ask one important question. Ask him, "if what you say is true, WHY did it take 15 minutes for you two to come back to the campground?"

 

[Strumey]

IMO you need a better wife but if you want to make it work, you need to be calling the shots.

But she's got 36DD!!!! What could be better than that?

 

[Spiderman]

Steve not showing up at the wedding is not a good sign.

Shows guilt of some kind OR looking to avoid a potential situation.

or he and his family simply couldn't make it. there was a chance of that before all this went down, no?

I'll admit that is a possibility. Do we know how close Steve (or the wife) is to the people getting married ?

 

[Otis]

Also, the fact that your wife is not talking about this seems to indicate guilt on her part.

I agree here. She's acting awful strange about this for someone who didn't do anything wrong. I smell a rat.

 

[General Malaise]

Was Steve drunk that night ? It's an effective strategy they have - Steve says nothing happened, but remembers everything....the wife remembers nothing.

Spiderman, stop. Seriously. We're on page 54. You're a bit late to the party - this was throughly covered ad nauseum on pages 1 through 53.

his spidey senses are tingling.

 

[General Malaise]

IMO you need a better wife but if you want to make it work, you need to be calling the shots.

But she's got 36DD!!!! What could be better than that?

36 EE

 

[Koya]

People really seem to expect (or wish for) the worst here.

did SOMEthing happen? Yeah. But it seems FAR more likley that it was messing around - and I dont even mean in a real sexual way, just goofing off that crossed the line of appropriateness - as opposed to either oral sex or intercourse.

Obviously anything is possible, but it seems that this was a big warning sign and that MITYH needs to continue working with his wife on open communication because otherwise the real issue of their marriage will not be what did or did not happen in the stall, but rather how they each reacted afterward.

Now, it is possible that something else happened (I dont see it as more than oral, but that would be plenty enough to send me off in a tizzy and perhaps end a relationship... not definately, but a good shot depending upon everything else) but again it seems more likely that this was stepping over the line, and not absolutely demolishing it.

Marriages have gone through FAR worse, so again imo the key is working on communication and building trust for the future... not dwelling on the past once it has been talked through (and I dont believe it really has, yet).

But again, for everyone to be jumping to the "something TERRIBLE happened you need to move out" card is a huge overeation and perhaps just a bit of FFA drama queen schaudenfraude rearing its ugly head.

 

[Frostillicus]

 

[Otis]

Steve not showing up at the wedding is not a good sign.

Shows guilt of some kind OR looking to avoid a potential situation.

 

[Koya]

Now, it is possible that something else happened (I dont see it as more than oral, but that would be plenty enough to send me off in a tizzy and perhaps end a relationship... not definately, but a good shot depending upon everything else) but again it seems more likely that this was stepping over the line, and not absolutely demolishing it.

oral right after he peed?

Ive seen far worse.

 

[Dragons]

Wow. Any chance your wife and Steve talked and got a story together before you talked to him?

What he should do is check all phone calls (cell and landline) made to Steve's phone since they came back.

Damn good idea. Why hasn't anyone thought of this?

 

[Peak]

You know, everyone I know named Steve is a total jerk.

 

[wildbill]

Ineteresting times are ahead for us. We talked for a couple hours about things last night, and she certainly knows where I stand. We covered a lot of ground.

What was covered, other than her knowing where you stand? Any decisions made? Any changes implemented? Any actions taken?

 

[kentric]

People really seem to expect (or wish for) the worst here.did SOMEthing happen? Yeah. But it seems FAR more likley that it was messing around - and I dont even mean in a real sexual way, just goofing off that crossed the line of appropriateness - as opposed to either oral sex or intercourse.Obviously anything is possible, but it seems that this was a big warning sign and that MITYH needs to continue working with his wife on open communication because otherwise the real issue of their marriage will not be what did or did not happen in the stall, but rather how they each reacted afterward.Now, it is possible that something else happened (I dont see it as more than oral, but that would be plenty enough to send me off in a tizzy and perhaps end a relationship... not definately, but a good shot depending upon everything else) but again it seems more likely that this was stepping over the line, and not absolutely demolishing it.Marriages have gone through FAR worse, so again imo the key is working on communication and building trust for the future... not dwelling on the past once it has been talked through (and I dont believe it really has, yet).But again, for everyone to be jumping to the "something TERRIBLE happened you need to move out" card is a huge overeation and perhaps just a bit of FFA drama queen schaudenfraude rearing its ugly head.

Seems people are always expecting the worst. - Steve and his wife not showing up for the wedding is a sign of guiltIf I miss a wedding due to timing/unforeseen circumstances, I'm sure people here would argue its because my wife had an affair with the groom and was still in love with him so I needed to keep them apart.- Hat's wife suggesting counseling if uncalled for.Counseling is exactly what is called for here. Hat and his wife have just had a stressful experience where Hat has reservations about his wife's honesty and fidelity. Trust needs to be reestablished between the two. You shouldn't raise doubts about a great idea on his wife's part. If she wants to get the Hat train back on track, recommending counseling is a great start and shows she wants this problem rectified.The best thing Hat can do right now is let his relationship with his wife heal. Pushing this any further will just raise further problems and will only do more harm than good.Best of luck

 

[Dragons]

Steve not showing up at the wedding is not a good sign.

Shows guilt of some kind OR looking to avoid a potential situation.

or he and his family simply couldn't make it. there was a chance of that before all this went down, no?

I'll admit that is a possibility. Do we know how close Steve (or the wife) is to the people getting married ?

At the camping trip, Steve's wife said they may not be able to make the wedding, depending what time they got back from their other trip.

 

[General Malaise]

ummmmm....

where'd some posts go?

 

[The Shizzle]

I think I've become sick and annoyed of this thread.

 

[General Malaise]

I think I've become sick and annoyed of this thread.

it's gonna be hard for me to give it up.in fact, i'm fairly sure i'm going to be in here weeks after it's over hoping somebody does something.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Instead of just deleting the thread, please chill out some in this one and try to keep it PG. It'll stay unless someone starts going back over the line. Sorry to be the board cop.

J

 

[badmojo1006]

I think I've become sick and annoyed of this thread.

Can we let this thread die a natural death?

 

[Sack-Religious]

ummmmm....where'd some posts go?

Wasn't PG enough, I guess.I'm just glad I didn't get a timeout

 

[General Malaise]

great. the one time i publicly tell my wife i love her, it goes bye bye.

i tried, flags. i really really tried.

 

[The Dude]

MITYH, unless you got some last card to play to get to "the truth", it's time to let go. First, the truth may not be as abd as you think. Second, it doesn't appear you are going to get any more details than what you have. Third, obsessing on it may destroy your relationship - possibly over something not as bad as you fear.

 

[Mrs. BSR]

Did MITYH ever say what was said in his conversation with Steve's wife before she gave Steve the phone?