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I think just about anywhere will be a good spot, because whoever pays $$ will most likely give the guy work.

jax wouldn't be the greatest, but there are a lot of teams he'd produce on given the chance.

ryan matthews is also fa, I believe, so maybe sd would be interested if they don't re-sign him, and of course there's oakland............

 
anybody move him after his big game? trying to see what he could fetch, in a standard league.
I just put him on the block along with Lacy and Bradshaw. I also have Murray so I'm open to trading one of the other guys because I need WR help...

 
Trying not to cherry pick numbers here:

Last 8 games: 102 carries, 580 yards, 5.69 YPC, 5 TDs

Last 16 games: 155 carries, 852 yards, 5.50 YPC, 6 TDs

Last 16 games with 10+ carries: 225 carries, 1,169 yards, 5.20 YPC, 9 TDs.

Doesn't turn 25 until December and the Saints didn't pick up his 5th year option for next year at $5 million, so he is an unrestricted free agent. The franchise number for an RB in 2014 was $9.5 million. He's almost a full year younger than Andre Ellington. How many guys would you rather have in dynasty right now?
It will be interesting to see what happens with Ingram. It certainly wasn't a mistake to not pick up the option. $5M would have made Ingram the 10th highest paid RB in the league. You can't pay that kind of money for a RB who offers little in the passing game, which is today's NFL. I would be shocked if he got more than $5M/year in free agency.

New Orleans is in cap hell so they almost certainly won't retain his services, unless the market bottoms out and he returns for $3-4M/year. That's very possible ... look at the RB free agent signings and extensions from the last two years. Chris Johnson, Joique Bell, Reggie Bush, Darren Sproles, Steven Jackson, Toby Gerhardt.. those are all guys that at one point in time ran as hard as Ingram and every one offers more in the passing game. Yet none of them got over $4M per year.
Almost all of them signed deals at much older than Ingram. Not sure about Bell. I think Toby is the closest.
They may have been older but some were still more useful. A 27-year old Bush coming off a solid season with Miami was a better bet on the free agent market than Ingram will be this year. Bush is very useful in the passing game and was coming off consecutive 1,000-yard rushing seasons. All that and he still only got $4M/year.

The salary cap has been raised since then, but considering Ingram has had less historical success and contributes less overall to the team, there's just no way he gets more than the $4M/year Bush received.
I am not certain I accept that premise.

 
I think just about anywhere will be a good spot, because whoever pays $$ will most likely give the guy work.

jax wouldn't be the greatest, but there are a lot of teams he'd produce on given the chance.

ryan matthews is also fa, I believe, so maybe sd would be interested if they don't re-sign him, and of course there's oakland............
San Diego would probably be a great spot if they believe he's a #1 guy and they don't bring back Mathews. The past two years they've been in the Top 10 in rushing attempts and near the bottom in yards per carry. Seems like that would be the ideal opportunity.

Somewhere like Buffalo or Baltimore might also not be terrible.

 
Literally ZERO reason to bench him tonight, unless you had some SERIOUS guys ahead of him.

If you got burned, you deserve it
ME!!! Benched him and Sanders while player the Manning owner!!!
How do you ever bench Sanders? Even with zero TDs the guy is a low WR1 this year.
I traded for him a few weeks earlier and forgot to change my lineup. I lost the week before when I started him and the other owner had D.Thomas who blew up the week before

 
I think just about anywhere will be a good spot, because whoever pays $$ will most likely give the guy work.

jax wouldn't be the greatest, but there are a lot of teams he'd produce on given the chance.

ryan matthews is also fa, I believe, so maybe sd would be interested if they don't re-sign him, and of course there's oakland............
San Diego would probably be a great spot if they believe he's a #1 guy and they don't bring back Mathews. The past two years they've been in the Top 10 in rushing attempts and near the bottom in yards per carry. Seems like that would be the ideal opportunity.

Somewhere like Buffalo or Baltimore might also not be terrible.
balt had fairly serious cap issues when tehy gave flacco that big deal, and I don't know if they'll have that stuff cleared up enough by next year to warrant spending $$ on a rb when they have a 2nd year guy they drafted on the roster.

buffalo seems to like brown enough to invest that pick in him, and they've got fjax for another year, so a third guy for $$ seems kind of sketchy.

 
Pierre Thomas was stated to be out 2-3 weeks. Short week shortens the timeline by a few days Khiry to make it back by Thursday as well.
Khiry did not practice today and would be surprised to see him suit up Thursday. Same for Pierre.

Looks like Ingram and Cadet again.

 
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Tennessee if Sanky doesn't do something, might be a nice spot. I would love to see him in Baltimore.

This could be a very crowded market. ADP, Ray Rice, Matthews and Ingram could all be FA's. In which case, Ingram could wind up right back in New Orleans because he takes the familiarity and chance to win over an extra couple hundred thousand.

 
I think just about anywhere will be a good spot, because whoever pays $$ will most likely give the guy work.

jax wouldn't be the greatest, but there are a lot of teams he'd produce on given the chance.

ryan matthews is also fa, I believe, so maybe sd would be interested if they don't re-sign him, and of course there's oakland............
San Diego would probably be a great spot if they believe he's a #1 guy and they don't bring back Mathews. The past two years they've been in the Top 10 in rushing attempts and near the bottom in yards per carry. Seems like that would be the ideal opportunity.

Somewhere like Buffalo or Baltimore might also not be terrible.
balt had fairly serious cap issues when tehy gave flacco that big deal, and I don't know if they'll have that stuff cleared up enough by next year to warrant spending $$ on a rb when they have a 2nd year guy they drafted on the roster.

buffalo seems to like brown enough to invest that pick in him, and they've got fjax for another year, so a third guy for $$ seems kind of sketchy.
Re: Bills contracts.

Fred Jackson's $2.35 million salary is only guaranteed if he makes 2015 final cuts. Buffalo only owes him $100k if they release him or he retires before the season. He'll be 34 in February.

Spiller has a $2.1 million player option that he'd likely void trying to get a larger contract on the open market (possibly with Buffalo). He'll be 28 next August.

Buffalo gave up a 4th round pick for Bryce Brown He's only owed $660k in 2015 and is a free agent in 2016.

They signed Anthony Dixon to a 3 year deal, but only $750k is guaranteed, but they can get out of that contract easily if they need to.

The rest of the season should be interesting. They'll probably want to see what they have in Brown, but it's certainly not inconceivable to think they'll be in the RB market in 2015.

 
Tennessee if Sanky doesn't do something, might be a nice spot. I would love to see him in Baltimore.

This could be a very crowded market. ADP, Ray Rice, Matthews and Ingram could all be FA's. In which case, Ingram could wind up right back in New Orleans because he takes the familiarity and chance to win over an extra couple hundred thousand.
I don't see any chance they pay him with their cap situation, or he wants to sign on for 6 carries/week

 
Tennessee if Sanky doesn't do something, might be a nice spot. I would love to see him in Baltimore.

This could be a very crowded market. ADP, Ray Rice, Matthews and Ingram could all be FA's. In which case, Ingram could wind up right back in New Orleans because he takes the familiarity and chance to win over an extra couple hundred thousand.
Murray?

 
Trying not to cherry pick numbers here:

Last 8 games: 102 carries, 580 yards, 5.69 YPC, 5 TDs

Last 16 games: 155 carries, 852 yards, 5.50 YPC, 6 TDs

Last 16 games with 10+ carries: 225 carries, 1,169 yards, 5.20 YPC, 9 TDs.

Doesn't turn 25 until December and the Saints didn't pick up his 5th year option for next year at $5 million, so he is an unrestricted free agent. The franchise number for an RB in 2014 was $9.5 million. He's almost a full year younger than Andre Ellington. How many guys would you rather have in dynasty right now?
It will be interesting to see what happens with Ingram. It certainly wasn't a mistake to not pick up the option. $5M would have made Ingram the 10th highest paid RB in the league. You can't pay that kind of money for a RB who offers little in the passing game, which is today's NFL. I would be shocked if he got more than $5M/year in free agency.

New Orleans is in cap hell so they almost certainly won't retain his services, unless the market bottoms out and he returns for $3-4M/year. That's very possible ... look at the RB free agent signings and extensions from the last two years. Chris Johnson, Joique Bell, Reggie Bush, Darren Sproles, Steven Jackson, Toby Gerhardt.. those are all guys that at one point in time ran as hard as Ingram and every one offers more in the passing game. Yet none of them got over $4M per year.
The youngest guy in that list was Gerhart at 27, which is a major part on why the market was cool on those guys. Ingram can catch the ball, the Saints just don't really use him in that role because they had guys like Sproles and Thomas who were better.ETA: I'm not saying he'll get a huge contract but he's more desirable to a team than those guys most likely.

 
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love his performances but remember Robinson and Thomas were out
How about his performances the first couple weeks of the season?
Love those as well :lol: but this particular game was a outlier IMO. 2 of their RBs were out so he got the carries. Once they return do you see Ingram getting numbers like that again or does he revert back to the beginning of the season with 10-12 carries? Either way we all would be happy but don't go crazy thinking what happen this past week was the norm.

 
love his performances but remember Robinson and Thomas were out
How about his performances the first couple weeks of the season?
Love those as well :lol: but this particular game was a outlier IMO. 2 of their RBs were out so he got the carries. Once they return do you see Ingram getting numbers like that again or does he revert back to the beginning of the season with 10-12 carries? Either way we all would be happy but don't go crazy thinking what happen this past week was the norm.
so he goes from putting up RB 1 numbers last week to RB 2 numbers like the first 2 weeks....i can live with that seeing i drafted him in round 15

 
love his performances but remember Robinson and Thomas were out
How about his performances the first couple weeks of the season?
Love those as well :lol: but this particular game was a outlier IMO. 2 of their RBs were out so he got the carries. Once they return do you see Ingram getting numbers like that again or does he revert back to the beginning of the season with 10-12 carries? Either way we all would be happy but don't go crazy thinking what happen this past week was the norm.
so he goes from putting up RB 1 numbers last week to RB 2 numbers like the first 2 weeks....i can live with that seeing i drafted him in round 15
PPR

Week1: RB11

Week2: RB11

Week7: RB45

Week8: RB6

But week 8 is the outlier.

:lmao

 
love his performances but remember Robinson and Thomas were out
How about his performances the first couple weeks of the season?
Love those as well :lol: but this particular game was a outlier IMO. 2 of their RBs were out so he got the carries. Once they return do you see Ingram getting numbers like that again or does he revert back to the beginning of the season with 10-12 carries? Either way we all would be happy but don't go crazy thinking what happen this past week was the norm.
so he goes from putting up RB 1 numbers last week to RB 2 numbers like the first 2 weeks....i can live with that seeing i drafted him in round 15
Oh absolutely!
 
love his performances but remember Robinson and Thomas were out
How about his performances the first couple weeks of the season?
Love those as well :lol: but this particular game was a outlier IMO. 2 of their RBs were out so he got the carries. Once they return do you see Ingram getting numbers like that again or does he revert back to the beginning of the season with 10-12 carries? Either way we all would be happy but don't go crazy thinking what happen this past week was the norm.
so he goes from putting up RB 1 numbers last week to RB 2 numbers like the first 2 weeks....i can live with that seeing i drafted him in round 15
PPRWeek1: RB11

Week2: RB11

Week7: RB45

Week8: RB6

But week 8 is the outlier.

:lmao
I'm only saying its a outlier based upon the amount of touches he got is all.
 
I doubt the coaches changes their stripes. But maybe Ingram gets the bulk of early down work and goalline going forward.

Regardless he makes a great start on Thursday night in all leagues with Khiry & Pthomas likely out.

 
Mark Ingram is the stud RB out of Alabama all of a sudden. :lol:

Still like Lacy, but the hype around Ingram and Lacys inconsistent play makes Ingram a much better start lately. As for Trent, is anyone even starting him when he was healthy anyways?

 
anybody move him after his big game? trying to see what he could fetch, in a standard league.
Which big game? The first one, second one, or third one?

But no, why would I move him?

love his performances but remember Robinson and Thomas were out
Week 1? Week 2?

And those two are going to be out against this week @ Carolina s well.

love his performances but remember Robinson and Thomas were out
How about his performances the first couple weeks of the season?
Such short term memories people have.

love his performances but remember Robinson and Thomas were out
How about his performances the first couple weeks of the season?
Love those as well :lol: but this particular game was a outlier IMO. 2 of their RBs were out so he got the carries. Once they return do you see Ingram getting numbers like that again or does he revert back to the beginning of the season with 10-12 carries? Either way we all would be happy but don't go crazy thinking what happen this past week was the norm.
so he goes from putting up RB 1 numbers last week to RB 2 numbers like the first 2 weeks....i can live with that seeing i drafted him in round 15
PPR

Week1: RB11

Week2: RB11

Week7: RB45

Week8: RB6

But week 8 is the outlier.

:lmao
Don't go and confuse the issue with actual numbers.

 
Tennessee if Sanky doesn't do something, might be a nice spot. I would love to see him in Baltimore.

This could be a very crowded market. ADP, Ray Rice, Matthews and Ingram could all be FA's. In which case, Ingram could wind up right back in New Orleans because he takes the familiarity and chance to win over an extra couple hundred thousand.
Ingram is light years ahead of Ray Rice and Mathews. Peterson is another story. He will fetch a huge one or two year contract.

I think there is only one way that Ingram stays in New Orleans. He is gonna need a committment from Payton to feed him the ball. I'm pretty sure that Ingram doesn't want to spend another 3-4 years getting the ball 12 times a game in a crazy RBBC on a pass happy team.

Now Ingram has had his breakout game and has all the leverage with New Orleans. I personally think New Orleans is the best place for him, if he got the ball a lot. I thought it was a great landing spot originally (look at the first post in this thread). But Payton has done a poor job of getting the ball to Ingram for 3.5 years. It's not as if he wised up either, it took 2 injuries for this to happen.

 
Tennessee if Sanky doesn't do something, might be a nice spot. I would love to see him in Baltimore.

This could be a very crowded market. ADP, Ray Rice, Matthews and Ingram could all be FA's. In which case, Ingram could wind up right back in New Orleans because he takes the familiarity and chance to win over an extra couple hundred thousand.
Ingram is light years ahead of Ray Rice and Mathews. Peterson is another story. He will fetch a huge one or two year contract.

I think there is only one way that Ingram stays in New Orleans. He is gonna need a committment from Payton to feed him the ball. I'm pretty sure that Ingram doesn't want to spend another 3-4 years getting the ball 12 times a game in a crazy RBBC on a pass happy team.

Now Ingram has had his breakout game and has all the leverage with New Orleans. I personally think New Orleans is the best place for him, if he got the ball a lot. I thought it was a great landing spot originally (look at the first post in this thread). But Payton has done a poor job of getting the ball to Ingram for 3.5 years. It's not as if he wised up either, it took 2 injuries for this to happen.
How do you figure? Ingram may be playing lights out for about a half dozen games, but for a career his best season was 600+ yards. Every season of Mathews career he has had more yards than Ingram's best season and has two 1K yards seasons under his belt. Only Rice's rookie year did he have less than 600 yards and has four 1K seasons.

I realize that Rice and Mathews are not playing right now, but that doesn't mean Ingram is light years better than those two. Those two have much better track records than Ingram at this point.

 
They just had their best offensive performance of the year. Against a solid GB team. No way they don't commit to Ingram in the coming weeks. Ingram combined with all the passing options make this offense a nightmare to defend. He'll get his 18-20 per game; more when they're up and grinding clock.

 
Tennessee if Sanky doesn't do something, might be a nice spot. I would love to see him in Baltimore.

This could be a very crowded market. ADP, Ray Rice, Matthews and Ingram could all be FA's. In which case, Ingram could wind up right back in New Orleans because he takes the familiarity and chance to win over an extra couple hundred thousand.
Ingram is light years ahead of Ray Rice and Mathews. Peterson is another story. He will fetch a huge one or two year contract.

I think there is only one way that Ingram stays in New Orleans. He is gonna need a committment from Payton to feed him the ball. I'm pretty sure that Ingram doesn't want to spend another 3-4 years getting the ball 12 times a game in a crazy RBBC on a pass happy team.

Now Ingram has had his breakout game and has all the leverage with New Orleans. I personally think New Orleans is the best place for him, if he got the ball a lot. I thought it was a great landing spot originally (look at the first post in this thread). But Payton has done a poor job of getting the ball to Ingram for 3.5 years. It's not as if he wised up either, it took 2 injuries for this to happen.
How do you figure? Ingram may be playing lights out for about a half dozen games, but for a career his best season was 600+ yards. Every season of Mathews career he has had more yards than Ingram's best season and has two 1K yards seasons under his belt. Only Rice's rookie year did he have less than 600 yards and has four 1K seasons.

I realize that Rice and Mathews are not playing right now, but that doesn't mean Ingram is light years better than those two. Those two have much better track records than Ingram at this point.
Ingram is 3 years younger than Rice. Rice averaged 3.1 YPC in 2013 and Ingram is averaging 5.7 YPC in 2014. He has 1,000 fewer career carries and doesn't come with the obvious off the field issues. I think 32 of 32 teams would rather have Ingram.

Mathews is an interesting case as a solid, yet unspectacular back. Also 2 years older than Ingram. Not like Ingram hasn't had injuries, but Mathews has been injured every year as a pro, including a current knee injury. He'll be almost 28 before the start of the 2015 season and probably be looking for more money than Ingram.

If I'm a team in the market for a RB, it's gotta be Ingram > Mathews >>>>> Rice.

 
How about a wild card destination. Lesean McCoy is scheduled to make $12mil next year. If he doesnt renegotiate his deal, he may be gone.

Kelly likes guys to hit the hole hard and decisive. Ingram might be a nice fit for less than half of what Shady is making.

 
NO has been having trouble throwing the ball down the field. Last week they finally had some success with Cooks. If Payton recognizes that Otis could be on to something. The problem is Payton has shown he will completely abandon the run even if Ingram is showing he can be successful. Look at last year for instance. Week 10 Ingram puts up 10-145-1. What does Payton do after that? Gives Ingram the ball 40 times..................the rest of the regular season (6 games). He did use him a little more in the playoffs and had success. The usage is anything but consistent though.

 
Tennessee if Sanky doesn't do something, might be a nice spot. I would love to see him in Baltimore.

This could be a very crowded market. ADP, Ray Rice, Matthews and Ingram could all be FA's. In which case, Ingram could wind up right back in New Orleans because he takes the familiarity and chance to win over an extra couple hundred thousand.
Ingram is light years ahead of Ray Rice and Mathews. Peterson is another story. He will fetch a huge one or two year contract.

I think there is only one way that Ingram stays in New Orleans. He is gonna need a committment from Payton to feed him the ball. I'm pretty sure that Ingram doesn't want to spend another 3-4 years getting the ball 12 times a game in a crazy RBBC on a pass happy team.

Now Ingram has had his breakout game and has all the leverage with New Orleans. I personally think New Orleans is the best place for him, if he got the ball a lot. I thought it was a great landing spot originally (look at the first post in this thread). But Payton has done a poor job of getting the ball to Ingram for 3.5 years. It's not as if he wised up either, it took 2 injuries for this to happen.
How do you figure? Ingram may be playing lights out for about a half dozen games, but for a career his best season was 600+ yards. Every season of Mathews career he has had more yards than Ingram's best season and has two 1K yards seasons under his belt. Only Rice's rookie year did he have less than 600 yards and has four 1K seasons.

I realize that Rice and Mathews are not playing right now, but that doesn't mean Ingram is light years better than those two. Those two have much better track records than Ingram at this point.
I didn't say he had better career stats than those two. I said he's a better investment, by far. Rice is getting older, looked pathetic last year, and has some...rather serious off the field blackmarks that you may have heard of.

Mathews has arguably been mis-used a bit by San Diege like Ingram. BUt he's also had injury after injury throughout his short career.3

I could be wrong, and Mathews may get a better contract than Ingram. But I doubt it.

 
How about a wild card destination. Lesean McCoy is scheduled to make $12mil next year. If he doesnt renegotiate his deal, he may be gone.

Kelly likes guys to hit the hole hard and decisive. Ingram might be a nice fit for less than half of what Shady is making.
Not bad. I think Ingram would do very well in that system.

 
How about a wild card destination. Lesean McCoy is scheduled to make $12mil next year. If he doesnt renegotiate his deal, he may be gone.

Kelly likes guys to hit the hole hard and decisive. Ingram might be a nice fit for less than half of what Shady is making.
Not bad. I think Ingram would do very well in that system.
Chip is going to cut Shady and sign Spiller. He tried to trade for him this year.

 
anybody move him after his big game? trying to see what he could fetch, in a standard league.
I just put him on the block along with Lacy and Bradshaw. I also have Murray so I'm open to trading one of the other guys because I need WR help...
Got offered DeAndre Hopkins for him, turned it down...

NO has been having trouble throwing the ball down the field. Last week they finally had some success with Cooks. If Payton recognizes that Otis could be on to something. The problem is Payton has shown he will completely abandon the run even if Ingram is showing he can be successful. Look at last year for instance. Week 10 Ingram puts up 10-145-1. What does Payton do after that? Gives Ingram the ball 40 times..................the rest of the regular season (6 games). He did use him a little more in the playoffs and had success. The usage is anything but consistent though.
This is what really gives me pause before starting him this week...

 
They were last week, too. The Saints game moved their yards allowed average from 148 per game to 153 per game.

 
anybody move him after his big game? trying to see what he could fetch, in a standard league.
I just put him on the block along with Lacy and Bradshaw. I also have Murray so I'm open to trading one of the other guys because I need WR help...
Got offered DeAndre Hopkins for him, turned it down...

NO has been having trouble throwing the ball down the field. Last week they finally had some success with Cooks. If Payton recognizes that Otis could be on to something. The problem is Payton has shown he will completely abandon the run even if Ingram is showing he can be successful. Look at last year for instance. Week 10 Ingram puts up 10-145-1. What does Payton do after that? Gives Ingram the ball 40 times..................the rest of the regular season (6 games). He did use him a little more in the playoffs and had success. The usage is anything but consistent though.
This is what really gives me pause before starting him this week...
Unless you are able to roll out Foster, Murray and Charles as your starters then as long as PT and Robinson are out I don't see how you cannot start him. He's #4 in my league in PPG.

 
anybody move him after his big game? trying to see what he could fetch, in a standard league.
I just put him on the block along with Lacy and Bradshaw. I also have Murray so I'm open to trading one of the other guys because I need WR help...
Got offered DeAndre Hopkins for him, turned it down...
NO has been having trouble throwing the ball down the field. Last week they finally had some success with Cooks. If Payton recognizes that Otis could be on to something. The problem is Payton has shown he will completely abandon the run even if Ingram is showing he can be successful. Look at last year for instance. Week 10 Ingram puts up 10-145-1. What does Payton do after that? Gives Ingram the ball 40 times..................the rest of the regular season (6 games). He did use him a little more in the playoffs and had success. The usage is anything but consistent though.
This is what really gives me pause before starting him this week...
Unless you are able to roll out Foster, Murray and Charles as your starters then as long as PT and Robinson are out I don't see how you cannot start him. He's #4 in my league in PPG.
Murray is one of my guys. The other is Bradshaw who's still right ahead of Ingram in my ppr league based on ppg...
 
Traded for him. Brought him in to compete with Morris and Gio down the stretch. I view him as a better investment than Forsett in non PPR. Is it with confidence? More than Forsett.

 
So does anyone have an idea if Thomas will be back by week 10 ? He is on waivers in a league that due to bye's I need a RB for week 10 . Only guy I have dropable is Cunningham.

 
So does anyone have an idea if Thomas will be back by week 10 ? He is on waivers in a league that due to bye's I need a RB for week 10 . Only guy I have dropable is Cunningham.
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