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Mark it down right now.. Lee Evans is a MUST START this week. (1 Viewer)

laughinboy_2000

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Evans had a slow start last week, but if history repeats itself, Evans could be huge this week. Evans blew up for for 100+ yards and three TD's last year against the Dolphins. Miami loves to give up long plays which is Evans' and Losman's specialty. I expect 100 yards and at least one TD..

Anyone hopping on the Lee Evans bandwagon this week?? :hey:

 
I'm toying with Evans over R. Moss.

Don't know if I have the balls to do it. :unsure:

 
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I'm toying with Evans over R. Moss.Don't know if I have the balls to do it. :unsure:
I would do it. The Raiders were brutal last week and the Ravens defense unbelievable. I'm actually starting Glenn over Moss right now. Evans would be a no brainer to me.
 
In that case, Chambers is a must start against Buffalo...didn't he go for 238 yards last time they played? I don't have the numbers in front of me currently.

 
In that case, Chambers is a must start against Buffalo...didn't he go for 238 yards last time they played? I don't have the numbers in front of me currently.
Yeup.. 15 catches for 238 yards and a TD.. Only difference this year is a different QB and they will run Ronnie Brown down Buffalo's throats.. I still expect 80-100 yards and a possible score though..
 
In that case, Chambers is a must start against Buffalo...didn't he go for 238 yards last time they played? I don't have the numbers in front of me currently.
Good recall:GAMEDATE - 12/04Opp - BUFRESULT - W 24-23GS - YesRec - 15Yds - 238Avg - 15.9Lg - 57TD - 1
 
Would you go with Evans over Darrell Jackson this week? I like Evan's history vs. the Phins, but a shootout between the Cards and Seahawks looks too tempting.

 
I'm toying with Evans over R. Moss.Don't know if I have the balls to do it. :unsure:
I would do it. The Raiders were brutal last week and the Ravens defense unbelievable. I'm actually starting Glenn over Moss right now. Evans would be a no brainer to me.
:mellow: Oddly, I'm in a quandry with these 3 right now. Santana Moss is my sure start, but Randy, Lee and Terry fight for #2 and 3. Glenn seems to be on the bench as of now. I don't think I could bench Randy.I actually dropped Evans in a redraft for Troy Williamson (we get good return points), so I'm positive that Evans will have a huge week.
 
Would you go with Evans over Darrell Jackson this week? I like Evan's history vs. the Phins, but a shootout between the Cards and Seahawks looks too tempting.
I think the Seahawks might try and slow this game down a little by running SA as much as possible. That, and Holmgren saying that Branch might play after all, make me think that playing DJax isn't quite as good of an idea as it first looks.
 
My experience with WR is that they are very erratic. You can't bank on very many of them. You just hope they show up, but on they weeks they actually find pay dirt...for some reasonyoua re usually a runaway winner that week.

Last week lots of top WR did not find the end zone.

T.Holt

R.Moss

L.Fitzgerald...good stats nonetheless

M.Harrison

Chad Johnson

Chris Chambers

Reggie Wayne

Santana Moss

Those guys are going to start scoring soon.

Remember the defenses are ahead of the offenses right now.

 
Would you go with Evans over Darrell Jackson this week? I like Evan's history vs. the Phins, but a shootout between the Cards and Seahawks looks too tempting.
I think the Seahawks might try and slow this game down a little by running SA as much as possible. That, and Holmgren saying that Branch might play after all, make me think that playing DJax isn't quite as good of an idea as it first looks.
:yes: I suspect Alexander will be one motivated mofo' after his 51 yards against the Lions. I'm starting SA in my salary cap league, expecting a HUGE day.
 
Peerliss Price will end up a nice start also, this game has shootout written all over it IMO.

Two decent defensive teams, with the weakest link the d-backfield and each looking to get the offense rolling.

No 7 step drops here, drop back and whip it.

 
Not gonna spin me :no:

The Miami D will respond to the Saban thrashing this week to tighten up at home.

Miami had 3 more days to prepare for this game.

Then you have the nasty September heat and humidity.

Miami will recover nicly this week. Buffalo is NOT the defending world champs - NOT even close.

 
Just so you guys know, the Miami secondary looks completely different then it did last year. Not to mention we have a different defensive coordinator and Mike Mularkey (Bills Head Coach) as our offensive coordinator.

I think the chances Evans explodes like he did last year are very, very, very SLIM. His speed is what destroyed us last year and we brought in Will Allen this year who is pretty fast himself, so we'll see what happens.

 
As a Giants fan who has watched alot of Will Allen. If he's covering Evans then bump him up your sheets. Allen likes to give a big cushion and can be baited in after numerous short throws leading to Evans specialty the long ball. Don't get me wrong I liked Allen when he was with the Jints but the guy can't catch and is afraid to man-up his marker.

 
I was planning on starting him, but now that this thread guarantees that he will do nothing, I may go with Matt Jones (at least I'll have a MNF player then...)

 
laughinboy_2000 said:
Evans had a slow start last week, but if history repeats itself, Evans could be huge this week. Evans blew up for for 100+ yards and three TD's last year against the Dolphins. Miami loves to give up long plays which is Evans' and Losman's specialty. I expect 100 yards and at least one TD..Anyone hopping on the Lee Evans bandwagon this week?? :hey:
This is not the same "give up big play" secondary of last year. We have a returning CB who was a rookie last year and new faces (aquired via FA) at CB and both Safety positions. They had Batch looking pretty confused for most of the game.I will go on record as saying that your predictions are possible, but MUST START is a bold statement. Miami will suprise many on both sides of the ball.I do expect Brown to tear it up and Buffalo will be playing from behind most of the night so that helps Evans some.
 
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With Housh apparently missing practice today (and likely not playing again), I'm faced with putting either Evans or Muhammad into the starting lineup. Detroit's D did a nice job against SEA last week, so I'm leaning toward starting Evans.

 
T. Daniels is out again vs. Bills and Goodman (brought in for depth and to play nickel) is starting in his place as he did against the Steelers. If McGahee can keep the Dolphins from playing alot of nickel and dime packages and Losman actually targets Evans this week I think he's in for a big game. I'll say 105 and 1

 
T. Daniels is out again vs. Bills and Goodman (brought in for depth and to play nickel) is starting in his place as he did against the Steelers. If McGahee can keep the Dolphins from playing alot of nickel and dime packages and Losman actually targets Evans this week I think he's in for a big game. I'll say 105 and 1
Ouch, you are right. I still think Miami has what it takes, at home in September to daze and confuse the Bills offense.
 
I can't be the only person that thinks starting someone based on what they did almost a full year ago against one team is kind of....reaching. I mean if that were the case whoever had Jamal Lewis against the Browns would have an automatic win every year.

Things happen in games that don't replicate themselves in the future. Especially when it comes to receivers. The only exception I can think of is a quarterback who’s become comfortable reading the scheme of a specific defense.

 
laughinboy_2000 said:
Anyone hopping on the Lee Evans bandwagon this week?? :hey:
'phin homer here - so, no.In all honesty, however, I thikn Evans makes a great play this week. You are correct that the 'phin secondary is extremely suspect. The problem for the Bills is thatthe Miami front seven are playing great - and Losman may not have time to find Evans downfield.I know Batch looked good last week, but if you watched the game, he made a lot of completions on the run as the 'phins chased him and he escaped - and the 'phins consistently collapsed the pocket of a much better pass blocking unit.In Miami, as opposed to on the road, I foresee a lot of INTs and sacks for the Dolphins - Losman on the run and harassed by DLs is not a pretty picture.
 
T. Daniels is out again vs. Bills and Goodman (brought in for depth and to play nickel) is starting in his place as he did against the Steelers. If McGahee can keep the Dolphins from playing alot of nickel and dime packages and Losman actually targets Evans this week I think he's in for a big game. I'll say 105 and 1
Ouch, you are right. I still think Miami has what it takes, at home in September to daze and confuse the Bills offense.
Like I said, the problems in the secondary are not the issue - the phins pass rush is the issue, and I foresee Miami bringing a blizzard against Losman - that's when Losman plays like, well, Losman.You could very easily see a QB switch to a more experienced and quicker firing Holcomb in this game.
 
T. Daniels is out again vs. Bills and Goodman (brought in for depth and to play nickel) is starting in his place as he did against the Steelers. If McGahee can keep the Dolphins from playing alot of nickel and dime packages and Losman actually targets Evans this week I think he's in for a big game. I'll say 105 and 1
Ouch, you are right. I still think Miami has what it takes, at home in September to daze and confuse the Bills offense.
Like I said, the problems in the secondary are not the issue - the phins pass rush is the issue, and I foresee Miami bringing a blizzard against Losman - that's when Losman plays like, well, Losman.You could very easily see a QB switch to a more experienced and quicker firing Holcomb in this game.
That's where McGahee comes in. If he can hit on a few slip screens and break off a few draws and make them respect the run they'll have to tone down the pressure or bring up help from the defensive backfield. If they decide to bring help that helps Evans and his speed by being isolated on a corner mono y mono. What the Bills need to do is insure Losman sucess (easier said than done) by utilizing quick hitting passes (ie. hitches, TE dumps, screens) and neutralize the pressure while setting up for the long stuff.I've seen where people predict this game will be played in the high 20's but I believe it'll be in the high 30's to low 40's. Say Phins 24 Bills 17. Evans get's his. 7 catches 105 and 1. We'll see.
 
Didn't hurt the Dolphins pressure on Batch when Willie Parker was busting off long runs against them - your analysis is good, just does not apply to the way the Dolphins play defense.

 
Marc Levin said:
Didn't hurt the Dolphins pressure on Batch when Willie Parker was busting off long runs against them - your analysis is good, just does not apply to the way the Dolphins play defense.
Well I've got a pretty high opinion of Evans after doing some digging. I don't think the Steelers have anyone close to his ability in the long ball game. It's going to be a great matchup. Especially if Losman has some time to work.
 
Marc Levin said:
Didn't hurt the Dolphins pressure on Batch when Willie Parker was busting off long runs against them - your analysis is good, just does not apply to the way the Dolphins play defense.
Well I've got a pretty high opinion of Evans after doing some digging. I don't think the Steelers have anyone close to his ability in the long ball game. It's going to be a great matchup. Especially if Losman has some time to work.
Zach and Jason will not give Losman the time he needs, and I still don't think our secondary is as bad as most assume.
 
Marc Levin said:
Didn't hurt the Dolphins pressure on Batch when Willie Parker was busting off long runs against them - your analysis is good, just does not apply to the way the Dolphins play defense.
Well I've got a pretty high opinion of Evans after doing some digging. I don't think the Steelers have anyone close to his ability in the long ball game. It's going to be a great matchup. Especially if Losman has some time to work.
Zach and Jason will not give Losman the time he needs, and I still don't think our secondary is as bad as most assume.
Very true. As evidenced by the Steelers game, if they're getting beat by their man, they'll just hold or grab a face mask or something.

It'll be tough for Evans to get a long score IMO.

 
Marc Levin said:
j3r3m3y said:
Riflemen said:
T. Daniels is out again vs. Bills and Goodman (brought in for depth and to play nickel) is starting in his place as he did against the Steelers. If McGahee can keep the Dolphins from playing alot of nickel and dime packages and Losman actually targets Evans this week I think he's in for a big game. I'll say 105 and 1
Ouch, you are right. I still think Miami has what it takes, at home in September to daze and confuse the Bills offense.
Like I said, the problems in the secondary are not the issue - the phins pass rush is the issue, and I foresee Miami bringing a blizzard against Losman - that's when Losman plays like, well, Losman.You could very easily see a QB switch to a more experienced and quicker firing Holcomb in this game.
:lmao: Losman has been fantastic on the run during the preseason and against the Pats. His accuracy is way up from last season and with his cannon arm he can make plays easily while running. Holcomb would be a sitting duck back there.

And IMO, the Pats front 4 are better than the Dolphins front 4.

 
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Marc Levin said:
j3r3m3y said:
Riflemen said:
T. Daniels is out again vs. Bills and Goodman (brought in for depth and to play nickel) is starting in his place as he did against the Steelers. If McGahee can keep the Dolphins from playing alot of nickel and dime packages and Losman actually targets Evans this week I think he's in for a big game. I'll say 105 and 1
Ouch, you are right. I still think Miami has what it takes, at home in September to daze and confuse the Bills offense.
Like I said, the problems in the secondary are not the issue - the phins pass rush is the issue, and I foresee Miami bringing a blizzard against Losman - that's when Losman plays like, well, Losman.You could very easily see a QB switch to a more experienced and quicker firing Holcomb in this game.
:lmao: Losman has been fantastic on the run during the preseason and against the Pats. His accuracy is way up from last season and with his cannon arm he can make plays easily while running. Holcomb would be a sitting duck back there.

And IMO, the Pats front 4 are better than the Dolphins front 4.
Apparently the tem "fantastic" means something other than what I thought it did:PASSING ATT CMP YDS SK/YD TD LG IN RT

J.Losman 23 15 164 3/23 0 20 0 86.1

 
laughinboy_2000 said:
Evans had a slow start last week, but if history repeats itself, Evans could be huge this week. Evans blew up for for 100+ yards and three TD's last year against the Dolphins. Miami loves to give up long plays which is Evans' and Losman's specialty. I expect 100 yards and at least one TD..Anyone hopping on the Lee Evans bandwagon this week?? :hey:
Chambers put up 238 yards last year against the Bills too. I don't have Evans but do have Chris.Chambers, Chris MIA WRvs Bills Sun 1:00 p.m. ET 6.00 1 Receiving TDs23.80 238 Receiving Yards7.50 15 Receptions36.30 Subtotal
 
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Marc Levin said:
j3r3m3y said:
Riflemen said:
T. Daniels is out again vs. Bills and Goodman (brought in for depth and to play nickel) is starting in his place as he did against the Steelers. If McGahee can keep the Dolphins from playing alot of nickel and dime packages and Losman actually targets Evans this week I think he's in for a big game. I'll say 105 and 1
Ouch, you are right. I still think Miami has what it takes, at home in September to daze and confuse the Bills offense.
Like I said, the problems in the secondary are not the issue - the phins pass rush is the issue, and I foresee Miami bringing a blizzard against Losman - that's when Losman plays like, well, Losman.You could very easily see a QB switch to a more experienced and quicker firing Holcomb in this game.
:lmao: Losman has been fantastic on the run during the preseason and against the Pats. His accuracy is way up from last season and with his cannon arm he can make plays easily while running. Holcomb would be a sitting duck back there.

And IMO, the Pats front 4 are better than the Dolphins front 4.
Apparently the tem "fantastic" means something other than what I thought it did:PASSING ATT CMP YDS SK/YD TD LG IN RT

J.Losman 23 15 164 3/23 0 20 0 86.1
I'm pretty impressed that you managed to accumulate his stats from when he was passing while on the run so quickly. :sarcasm: And that doesn't include the preseason either, where he demonstrated many times the ability to make big plays while on the run.

And I'd just like to point out that Losman's passer rating through one game is 86.1 which puts him in the top half of QBs. Culpepper's is 49.6. :X That's 27th in the league. Worse than even Aaron Brooks and Charlie Frye.

Sorry, but Miami's front 4 really don't scare me. Losman's not going to throw for 300 yards, but he'll have a fine day.

 
Was hoping this'd be the year when it would be apparent that Lee Evans is a must start every week...

:kicksrock:

 
Mofongo said:
Just so you guys know, the Miami secondary looks completely different then it did last year. Not to mention we have a different defensive coordinator and Mike Mularkey (Bills Head Coach) as our offensive coordinator.

I think the chances Evans explodes like he did last year are very, very, very SLIM. His speed is what destroyed us last year and we brought in Will Allen this year who is pretty fast himself, so we'll see what happens.
Heath Miller down ?? He won't come close to catching Evans if he gets behind him...3 TD passes last week, Evans deep speed, looks like a nice matchup to me.

 
I'm pretty impressed that you managed to accumulate his stats from when he was passing while on the run so quickly. :sarcasm: And that doesn't include the preseason either, where he demonstrated many times the ability to make big plays while on the run. And I'd just like to point out that Losman's passer rating through one game is 86.1 which puts him in the top half of QBs. Culpepper's is 49.6. :X That's 27th in the league. Worse than even Aaron Brooks and Charlie Frye.Sorry, but Miami's front 4 really don't scare me. Losman's not going to throw for 300 yards, but he'll have a fine day.
Pre-season does not count. Culpeppers passing rating is not relevant to what kind of production Losman gets. Time will tell if you respect the Dolphins pass defense.
 
Marc Levin said:
Didn't hurt the Dolphins pressure on Batch when Willie Parker was busting off long runs against them - your analysis is good, just does not apply to the way the Dolphins play defense.
Well I've got a pretty high opinion of Evans after doing some digging. I don't think the Steelers have anyone close to his ability in the long ball game. It's going to be a great matchup. Especially if Losman has some time to work.
:confused: Wasn't that my point?

Like I said, it is good analysis, but inapplicable to the way the 'phins play defense. I don't believe Losman will have anything resembling enough time. He is not as escapable as Batch, he is not as good throwing on the run, he gets flustered while Batch does not. Lee Evans' ability is irrelevant. Like I said in my first post, it is a GREAT matchup against a banged up secondary - but the Bills may not be able to exploit it due to the 'phins pass rush.

How good Lee Evans is and how banged up the Dolphin secondary is becomes a side issue to what kind of pressure I expect from the Dolphins' front seven - in response, you mentioned McGahee's running as a counter to the D pressure - I countered regarding the phins' D pressure despite Wille Parker going off, you then responded to that with "Lee Evans is better at the long ball, if Losman has time." Kinda circular argument on your part, isn;'t it?

 
Marc Levin said:
j3r3m3y said:
Riflemen said:
T. Daniels is out again vs. Bills and Goodman (brought in for depth and to play nickel) is starting in his place as he did against the Steelers. If McGahee can keep the Dolphins from playing alot of nickel and dime packages and Losman actually targets Evans this week I think he's in for a big game. I'll say 105 and 1
Ouch, you are right. I still think Miami has what it takes, at home in September to daze and confuse the Bills offense.
Like I said, the problems in the secondary are not the issue - the phins pass rush is the issue, and I foresee Miami bringing a blizzard against Losman - that's when Losman plays like, well, Losman.You could very easily see a QB switch to a more experienced and quicker firing Holcomb in this game.
:lmao: Losman has been fantastic on the run during the preseason and against the Pats. His accuracy is way up from last season and with his cannon arm he can make plays easily while running. Holcomb would be a sitting duck back there.

And IMO, the Pats front 4 are better than the Dolphins front 4.
Did you watch the phins-Steelers game? If you DID you would not be laughing. The dolphins pass rush was better on the road in Steeler country than the Pats' was vs. the Bills. Phin defenders had their hands on Batch a significant number of times, but he escaped - and the Steelers OL is much better, IMO, than the Bills OL.*homer alert*

It will be a shyte storm of defensive pressure on Losman - and, while he is mobile and can run the bootleg pretty well, he is NOWHERE NEAR as escable as Batch. Get a hand on him, he's down, he's throwing the ball away, or it'll be a pick.

I see 8 to 10 targets, but only 4 catches, 65 yards, maybe a TD from Evans. He should be started, but I would not be surprised, after the first 3 or 4 picks by Losman - or after he is buried in the dirt one too many times - to see Holcomb in there.

*homer alert off*

 
Marc Levin said:
Didn't hurt the Dolphins pressure on Batch when Willie Parker was busting off long runs against them - your analysis is good, just does not apply to the way the Dolphins play defense.
Well I've got a pretty high opinion of Evans after doing some digging. I don't think the Steelers have anyone close to his ability in the long ball game. It's going to be a great matchup. Especially if Losman has some time to work.
:confused: Wasn't that my point?

Like I said, it is good analysis, but inapplicable to the way the 'phins play defense. I don't believe Losman will have anything resembling enough time. He is not as escapable as Batch, he is not as good throwing on the run, he gets flustered while Batch does not. Lee Evans' ability is irrelevant. Like I said in my first post, it is a GREAT matchup against a banged up secondary - but the Bills may not be able to exploit it due to the 'phins pass rush.

How good Lee Evans is and how banged up the Dolphin secondary is becomes a side issue to what kind of pressure I expect from the Dolphins' front seven - in response, you mentioned McGahee's running as a counter to the D pressure - I countered regarding the phins' D pressure despite Wille Parker going off, you then responded to that with "Lee Evans is better at the long ball, if Losman has time." Kinda circular argument on your part, isn;'t it?
If you are comparing Batch's experience to Losman's inexperience I might agree with you - but wasn't Losman's strength in college his mobility?
 

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