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Martellus Bennett - playing musical chairs with the NFL (2 Viewers)
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netnalp
Footballguy
His floor is Ballard's numbers. He's already the best blocking TE on the roster and possibly the best receiving TE. Pascoe is too inconsistent and doesn't block nearly as well. Robinson is really raw and has shown athletic ability but has only shown he's got a lot to learn in camp.loose circuits
Footballguy
Think about how much attention Cruz and Nicks will demand. The black unicorn will be roaming free
ens189
Footballguy
Oh yeah, I got a semi thinking about that.
netnalp
Footballguy
Bennett Highlights and Lowlights vs. Jags
:17 - the safety helps to double Bennett. When Nicks is back, wouldn't that safety have to help double Nicks or bad things will happen for the defense?
:17 - the safety helps to double Bennett. When Nicks is back, wouldn't that safety have to help double Nicks or bad things will happen for the defense?
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Oh yeah. Even Braden was open. Marty b and Rudolph are my te targets in late rounds.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
black unicorn?
identikit
Footballguy
That's the nickname Martellus gave himself.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
So it's like when costanza wanted to be called T-bone?
identikit
Footballguy
Exactly.
Shutout
Footballguy
Any minds changed yet?Wrong..Flat out.When is the last time Jason Witten missed a game or series of games? When is the time he was given an opportunity?
The answer is Witten hasn't missed any games since Bennett was drafted. But in 2008, the Cowboys staff did play Bennett some and in that one small window of time when he was actually a real part of the offensive gameplan, the kid caught 4 tds, had just a few drops, and was averaging about 14 yards per catch.
Can you blame a 22 year old kid for looking average when he never gets a chance to play behind the cornflake kid? To be less than stellar playing on an undisciplined team that doesn't play him?
The kid is good. The Giants are disciplined and focussed and they like to feature their TEs. They took whatever a Jake Ballard and Kevin Boss was and made them relevant and now here comes a 6'6" monster with good hands, playing on a one year deal where he will be looking to prove he deserves a bigger contract next year.
Get him if you can. Its going to be a good beginning for Bennet this year and people can be the guy that got the Arian Foster or they can be the guy that spends all offseason trying to argue why it was just a fluke next year.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Paid $1 for him in my auctionAny minds changed yet?Wrong..Flat out.When is the last time Jason Witten missed a game or series of games? When is the time he was given an opportunity?
The answer is Witten hasn't missed any games since Bennett was drafted. But in 2008, the Cowboys staff did play Bennett some and in that one small window of time when he was actually a real part of the offensive gameplan, the kid caught 4 tds, had just a few drops, and was averaging about 14 yards per catch.
Can you blame a 22 year old kid for looking average when he never gets a chance to play behind the cornflake kid? To be less than stellar playing on an undisciplined team that doesn't play him?
The kid is good. The Giants are disciplined and focussed and they like to feature their TEs. They took whatever a Jake Ballard and Kevin Boss was and made them relevant and now here comes a 6'6" monster with good hands, playing on a one year deal where he will be looking to prove he deserves a bigger contract next year.
Get him if you can. Its going to be a good beginning for Bennet this year and people can be the guy that got the Arian Foster or they can be the guy that spends all offseason trying to argue why it was just a fluke next year.
Manster
Footballguy
he had a good game. he had some stinkers in Dallas. he did get his chances, and pissed em away in Dallas. lets see if he can sustain it before we call this guy the next antonio gates. kinda like the ogletree thread. this guy isnt all the sudden larry fitzgerald.Any minds changed yet?Wrong..Flat out.When is the last time Jason Witten missed a game or series of games? When is the time he was given an opportunity?
The answer is Witten hasn't missed any games since Bennett was drafted. But in 2008, the Cowboys staff did play Bennett some and in that one small window of time when he was actually a real part of the offensive gameplan, the kid caught 4 tds, had just a few drops, and was averaging about 14 yards per catch.
Can you blame a 22 year old kid for looking average when he never gets a chance to play behind the cornflake kid? To be less than stellar playing on an undisciplined team that doesn't play him?
The kid is good. The Giants are disciplined and focussed and they like to feature their TEs. They took whatever a Jake Ballard and Kevin Boss was and made them relevant and now here comes a 6'6" monster with good hands, playing on a one year deal where he will be looking to prove he deserves a bigger contract next year.
Get him if you can. Its going to be a good beginning for Bennet this year and people can be the guy that got the Arian Foster or they can be the guy that spends all offseason trying to argue why it was just a fluke next year.
CurlyDumps
Footballguy
That sure was a nice TD catch.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Martellus looked pretty good tonight, the Giants should have used him more. i didn't think he'd do well for the Giants and I'm still a skeptic that he'll consistantly produce but off tona nice start that I'm sure he was motivated to play well against.
Shutout
Footballguy
Agree. One game doesn't change it all but, in general, the discussion in this thread seemed to fall into two extremes. Some were saying that he was lazy, wouldn't do anything, were making jokes and making comments like "Good luck with him". The other was saying they thought he would be a good fit with the Giants and would produce.Again, one game does not a season make, but I think last night we saw a guy do his job, not get penalties, run his routes and lineup where he was supposed to and made the catches that came his way for the most part. Overall, I think it was a promising debut and the giants appear 9at least in one game) like they will use him just like Ballard and Boss before him. It appears he could have a solid (PROBABLY NOT SPECTACULAR) season. I'm happy for him. I think (at least in this thread) he got dismissed pretty harshly by a lot of Cowboys fans.'Manster said:he had a good game. he had some stinkers in Dallas. he did get his chances, and pissed em away in Dallas. lets see if he can sustain it before we call this guy the next antonio gates. kinda like the ogletree thread. this guy isnt all the sudden larry fitzgerald.'Shutout said:Any minds changed yet?Wrong..Flat out.When is the last time Jason Witten missed a game or series of games? When is the time he was given an opportunity?
The answer is Witten hasn't missed any games since Bennett was drafted. But in 2008, the Cowboys staff did play Bennett some and in that one small window of time when he was actually a real part of the offensive gameplan, the kid caught 4 tds, had just a few drops, and was averaging about 14 yards per catch.
Can you blame a 22 year old kid for looking average when he never gets a chance to play behind the cornflake kid? To be less than stellar playing on an undisciplined team that doesn't play him?
The kid is good. The Giants are disciplined and focussed and they like to feature their TEs. They took whatever a Jake Ballard and Kevin Boss was and made them relevant and now here comes a 6'6" monster with good hands, playing on a one year deal where he will be looking to prove he deserves a bigger contract next year.
Get him if you can. Its going to be a good beginning for Bennet this year and people can be the guy that got the Arian Foster or they can be the guy that spends all offseason trying to argue why it was just a fluke next year.
Mortimer Ichabod
Footballguy
The Black Unicorn!
Manster
Footballguy
Right, because he sucked! He's a big boy. You cant blame the Cowboys on him sucking there. I watched him on the field. He was a liability. If he's finally in a place where he "gets it" good for him. But you better believe there will be some sour grapes from us Cowboys fans. We knew his potential, he didnt live up to it. Heres his second chance.Agree. One game doesn't change it all but, in general, the discussion in this thread seemed to fall into two extremes. Some were saying that he was lazy, wouldn't do anything, were making jokes and making comments like "Good luck with him". The other was saying they thought he would be a good fit with the Giants and would produce.Again, one game does not a season make, but I think last night we saw a guy do his job, not get penalties, run his routes and lineup where he was supposed to and made the catches that came his way for the most part. Overall, I think it was a promising debut and the giants appear 9at least in one game) like they will use him just like Ballard and Boss before him. It appears he could have a solid (PROBABLY NOT SPECTACULAR) season. I'm happy for him. I think (at least in this thread) he got dismissed pretty harshly by a lot of Cowboys fans.'Manster said:he had a good game. he had some stinkers in Dallas. he did get his chances, and pissed em away in Dallas. lets see if he can sustain it before we call this guy the next antonio gates. kinda like the ogletree thread. this guy isnt all the sudden larry fitzgerald.'Shutout said:Any minds changed yet?Wrong..Flat out.When is the last time Jason Witten missed a game or series of games? When is the time he was given an opportunity?
The answer is Witten hasn't missed any games since Bennett was drafted. But in 2008, the Cowboys staff did play Bennett some and in that one small window of time when he was actually a real part of the offensive gameplan, the kid caught 4 tds, had just a few drops, and was averaging about 14 yards per catch.
Can you blame a 22 year old kid for looking average when he never gets a chance to play behind the cornflake kid? To be less than stellar playing on an undisciplined team that doesn't play him?
The kid is good. The Giants are disciplined and focussed and they like to feature their TEs. They took whatever a Jake Ballard and Kevin Boss was and made them relevant and now here comes a 6'6" monster with good hands, playing on a one year deal where he will be looking to prove he deserves a bigger contract next year.
Get him if you can. Its going to be a good beginning for Bennet this year and people can be the guy that got the Arian Foster or they can be the guy that spends all offseason trying to argue why it was just a fluke next year.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Prime rib?
Shutout
Footballguy
I don't blame the Cowboys fans for anything. All I'm saying is that in the context of this kind of discussion, that a lot of Cowboys fans MIGHT have let bias get in the way of making a good assessment and it may have cost them a chance at picking up a productive player for their fantasy teams. It appears he's capable of closer to what some of us where saying than he is what some of the fed-up Cowboys fans were.Right, because he sucked! He's a big boy. You cant blame the Cowboys on him sucking there. I watched him on the field. He was a liability. If he's finally in a place where he "gets it" good for him. But you better believe there will be some sour grapes from us Cowboys fans. We knew his potential, he didnt live up to it. Heres his second chance.Agree. One game doesn't change it all but, in general, the discussion in this thread seemed to fall into two extremes. Some were saying that he was lazy, wouldn't do anything, were making jokes and making comments like "Good luck with him". The other was saying they thought he would be a good fit with the Giants and would produce.Again, one game does not a season make, but I think last night we saw a guy do his job, not get penalties, run his routes and lineup where he was supposed to and made the catches that came his way for the most part. Overall, I think it was a promising debut and the giants appear 9at least in one game) like they will use him just like Ballard and Boss before him. It appears he could have a solid (PROBABLY NOT SPECTACULAR) season. I'm happy for him. I think (at least in this thread) he got dismissed pretty harshly by a lot of Cowboys fans.'Manster said:he had a good game. he had some stinkers in Dallas. he did get his chances, and pissed em away in Dallas. lets see if he can sustain it before we call this guy the next antonio gates. kinda like the ogletree thread. this guy isnt all the sudden larry fitzgerald.'Shutout said:Any minds changed yet?Wrong..Flat out.When is the last time Jason Witten missed a game or series of games? When is the time he was given an opportunity?
The answer is Witten hasn't missed any games since Bennett was drafted. But in 2008, the Cowboys staff did play Bennett some and in that one small window of time when he was actually a real part of the offensive gameplan, the kid caught 4 tds, had just a few drops, and was averaging about 14 yards per catch.
Can you blame a 22 year old kid for looking average when he never gets a chance to play behind the cornflake kid? To be less than stellar playing on an undisciplined team that doesn't play him?
The kid is good. The Giants are disciplined and focussed and they like to feature their TEs. They took whatever a Jake Ballard and Kevin Boss was and made them relevant and now here comes a 6'6" monster with good hands, playing on a one year deal where he will be looking to prove he deserves a bigger contract next year.
Get him if you can. Its going to be a good beginning for Bennet this year and people can be the guy that got the Arian Foster or they can be the guy that spends all offseason trying to argue why it was just a fluke next year.
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
Decent showing. He had a drop on a tough pass that he should of made though. Seems like the 4th option in the offense. I wouldn't feel comfortable starting him weekly. Solid bye week replacement though.Wasn't really impressed.
Manster
Footballguy
I hear what you're sayin. But i'm not sure theres "bias" from Cowboys fans as much as "scouting". Look, those of us who watch whats goin on with the 'Boys from camp till seasons' end, saw Marty B. become a liability in the passing game. I'm not sure how anyone really knows that he's definately going to improve in NY. Seems like a leap of faith to me. Thats on him to change as a player. And while I recognize he had a solid first outing in NY, I wouldnt assume that he's going to do it every week just yet. He's a big athletic guy. Good blocker. jury still out as an offensive weapon. wait till he bobbles a pass and its picked off.I don't blame the Cowboys fans for anything. All I'm saying is that in the context of this kind of discussion, that a lot of Cowboys fans MIGHT have let bias get in the way of making a good assessment and it may have cost them a chance at picking up a productive player for their fantasy teams. It appears he's capable of closer to what some of us where saying than he is what some of the fed-up Cowboys fans were.Right, because he sucked! He's a big boy. You cant blame the Cowboys on him sucking there. I watched him on the field. He was a liability. If he's finally in a place where he "gets it" good for him. But you better believe there will be some sour grapes from us Cowboys fans. We knew his potential, he didnt live up to it. Heres his second chance.Agree. One game doesn't change it all but, in general, the discussion in this thread seemed to fall into two extremes. Some were saying that he was lazy, wouldn't do anything, were making jokes and making comments like "Good luck with him". The other was saying they thought he would be a good fit with the Giants and would produce.Again, one game does not a season make, but I think last night we saw a guy do his job, not get penalties, run his routes and lineup where he was supposed to and made the catches that came his way for the most part. Overall, I think it was a promising debut and the giants appear 9at least in one game) like they will use him just like Ballard and Boss before him. It appears he could have a solid (PROBABLY NOT SPECTACULAR) season. I'm happy for him. I think (at least in this thread) he got dismissed pretty harshly by a lot of Cowboys fans.'Manster said:he had a good game. he had some stinkers in Dallas. he did get his chances, and pissed em away in Dallas. lets see if he can sustain it before we call this guy the next antonio gates. kinda like the ogletree thread. this guy isnt all the sudden larry fitzgerald.'Shutout said:Any minds changed yet?Wrong..Flat out.When is the last time Jason Witten missed a game or series of games? When is the time he was given an opportunity?
The answer is Witten hasn't missed any games since Bennett was drafted. But in 2008, the Cowboys staff did play Bennett some and in that one small window of time when he was actually a real part of the offensive gameplan, the kid caught 4 tds, had just a few drops, and was averaging about 14 yards per catch.
Can you blame a 22 year old kid for looking average when he never gets a chance to play behind the cornflake kid? To be less than stellar playing on an undisciplined team that doesn't play him?
The kid is good. The Giants are disciplined and focussed and they like to feature their TEs. They took whatever a Jake Ballard and Kevin Boss was and made them relevant and now here comes a 6'6" monster with good hands, playing on a one year deal where he will be looking to prove he deserves a bigger contract next year.
Get him if you can. Its going to be a good beginning for Bennet this year and people can be the guy that got the Arian Foster or they can be the guy that spends all offseason trying to argue why it was just a fluke next year.
DevilintheDetail
Footballguy
What about the TD catch? That was a nice snag.Wasn't really impressed.
bonesman
Footballguy
Yeeeeeeeea. Right.
Fred Davis is out?
Shutout
Footballguy
ROTO guys must be Cowboys fans too..LOL..Seriously, though, I agree with you. The guy is getting his opportunities in New York and he has a great TE coach and I think this is gonna work all year.Re: the ?? on Fred Davis. There is unconfirmed word going on out here that he sustained a concussion and that is worth following up on. Also, if true, Davis was playing LATE into the game so I don't know how he got it and stayed in...soemone might have some 'splaining to do.
coachbobbyfinstock
Footballguy
Im pretty much the biggest, most knowledgeable Giants fan on this forum- let me tell you something. Bennett is in for a big year. Let me qualify that statement, Bennett is a lock for 65/775 yds 7+ Tds. Despite what, at times, look like stone hands Eli like throwing to this guy.
That TD catch he had in the 4th quarter was one of the most athletic CATCHES i've ever seen by a TE.
I have spoken. Take it to the bank.
That TD catch he had in the 4th quarter was one of the most athletic CATCHES i've ever seen by a TE.
I have spoken. Take it to the bank.
netnalp
Footballguy
They may also be clinging to the thought that the Giants are going to be a more balanced offense. There's not much evidence for the Giants running game improving much over last year. The Giants will try to run but so far it's the same as last year where they see a lot of long 2nd and 3rd downs. Eli should end up getting near the 5K yard mark like he did last year.Diehl looks like he'll miss time with a knee sprain. The way he's been playing it could be a positive for the offense.
Heisman187
Footballguy
STUD! I've been on the Bennett bandwagon for years and while he's still shaking some rust off, the guy has Gronk like athletic ability. The Black Unicorn is one of those players I would buy high because by the end of the season he will end up in the tier just below Graham/Gronk. I don't see any difference between Bennett and a Jermichael Finley or Vernon Davis.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Never gonna happen. Sticking with their original position is part of their schtick. Garcon's gonna be in Canton before they acknowledge he might be more than a 'WR3 with the possibility for the occasional good week' (paraphrasing).ETA: Bennett doesn't have the hands of the elite TEs, but he's a king hell blocker and has all the other size/speed physical tools so I think WYSIWYG -- a guy who's going to be relevant and put up FF points, but never make it into the elite tier on a year in, year out basis. As a TE2 or a flex play in TE favored PPR leagues? Sign me up.
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coachbobbyfinstock
Footballguy
Good analysis
Avery
Footballguy
DarkKnightsGuru
Footballguy
He does Look great prob one of the biggest Sleepers this year Hes the Black Aaron Hernandez and Dennis Pitta Bread is the White version of Witten.. Pitta and Bennett equal fantasy gold
CurlyDumps
Footballguy
It's easy to get excited about a guy after his offense puts up 500 yards of passing in a game.
netnalp
Footballguy
The 2 games with TD catches and the red zone targets are probably more of a factor in people's minds.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
BLACK UNICORN!!!
netnalp
Footballguy
Still sounds like the nickname a black porn star would have.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I was wrong about Bennett, he's done more so far this season than I expected. He's always been talented but underachieved, gratz to those that gave him another shot.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
He has a prime match-up this week vs. CAR. I'm expecting him to keep the TD run going.
