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We saw Spider-Man NWH yesterday and just thought it was "meh". The humor seems to be geared more towards 14 year olds than adults. I would say I liked both Venoms more (much funnier, better action, etc.). Thor Ragnarok is still the best Marvel movie, imo.
I will say though that them bringing back the three of them was pretty cool.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
I don’t see them leaving Netflix, but if they did it’s more likely they’d end up on Hulu (also majority owned by Disney) than Disney+
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
That makes sense. Given how strong/adult the level of content was on Netflix, I bet Disney would have a hard time with their inner censorship to put those even on Disney+.
Andrew74
Footballguy
AcerFC
Footballguy
Looks like I’m the only one on this board who liked Iron Fist. I knew nothing about him from the comics so maybe that is why.
I thought Coleen Wing was a bad ### and the actor who played her was great.
In fact, forget the superheroes. Give me A Coleen, Misty Knight and Claire Temple show and I’ll be happy
I thought Coleen Wing was a bad ### and the actor who played her was great.
In fact, forget the superheroes. Give me A Coleen, Misty Knight and Claire Temple show and I’ll be happy
B Maverick
Footballguy
Runaways, Cloak and Dagger, Inhumans all are down at the bottom. Agents of Shield in the top half for most of its run. Agent Carter middle tier.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
My youngest and I just finally got around to watching Loki and we loved it. I’m not a comic book guy so I just go with it. All the multiverse stuff, time travel and inconsistency doesn’t really phase me as I’m just along for the ride. And I thought Loki was fantastic from an entertainment value. We had no idea there would be a season 2 but excited for it.
Corporation
Angry Bovine
She was easily the high point of the seriesAcerFC said:
B Maverick
Footballguy
The actress has said she didn't take a role in Shang-Chi in hopes that Coleen Wing would be brought into the MCU.She was easily the high point of the series
Hawks64
Footballguy
Agent 19 is Mockingbird. Agents of Shield is not MCU cannon so no conflict exists.
Kingpin is a better DD villain than a Spidey villain IMO. For me Spidey's best villain is Kraven. Man they have to bring him into the MCU.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
It seems Kingpin has gained more power in the Hawkeye series than he had in Daredevil (can't remember which would be more accurate per the comics).
He seemed to be just a regular human (albeit a big and strong one) in DD, but in Hawkeye he was surviving being hit by cars and exploding arrows.
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Hawks64
Footballguy
I'd have to re-watch DD but I think he took significant beatings with deadly weapons similar to what happened in Hawkeye.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
He fought DD and the Punisher who were both just humans with no super powers and did not dominate them. Don't remember if he took massive blows from cars or weapons but admittedly it's been years since I've seen it.
Hawks64
Footballguy
Pretty sure he took on DD when DD was with weapons for sure, and he did dominate DD on more than one occasion IIRC. I actually liked that they showed him more to his comic roots in Hawkeye. Don't forget, the Netflix shows aren't canon so what happened in them is not the basis for their MCU characters.
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MTskibum
Footballguy
I saw Spider man NWH last night and maybe my expectations were too high. I thought that it was going to be one of the best marvel movies to date. Instead it was an average to above average marvel movie.
I think i could have waited until it was released for rental.
I hope doctor strange is not a let down now.
I think i could have waited until it was released for rental.
I hope doctor strange is not a let down now.
If I recall correctly, the comics have a storyline where Maya shot Kingpin - not sure if this is what will be the basis of the Echo series, but in the comics the gunshot did not kill him, but it blinded him.
dhockster
Footballguy
Ah, I do not have the comics background, so you know more than I do. I could see that storyline (no pun intended)
To be honest, I don't have the comics background either, I picked up on that in either an article or youtube recap of the series with thoughts on where the characters could go from there.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
Not the Bruce Timm Batman. The crappy movie thing with Christian Bale, no disagreement.SWC said:
2Squirrels1Nut
Footballguy
Agree with both of you. NWH was fine but I guess I was expecting to blown away. I enjoyed the first two installments much more.MTskibum said:
Hawkeye was great and I wasn't expecting much.
First Boba Fett was extremely disappointing. The guy playing Boba is a terrible actor. :(
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
The Eternals is a steaming pile. Paper-thin characters and a horribly contrived plot. Felt like a DC movie, to me.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Hawkeye was my favorite Disney + Marvel series so far. Who agrees?
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Eternals.
Meh.
Meh.
foxco
Footballguy
Got halfway through Eternals, and man, this is a slog. I'll finish it because I watch every Marvel movie, but this one isn't doing anything for me. Thought it would be cool to have Rob Stark and Jon Snow reunited but nothing.
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
I'm probably too late, but save yourself the time and don't watch the rest. You won't be missing anything.
SWC
Bromigo
i thought eternals was ok not horrible not my favorite but ok i mean some of the guys were ok and it sets up to bring in some big time power brokers so that it cool i think that it would be cool if eternals made the angerlina homewrecker jolie character fly into the sun and disappear forever never to return to comics unless someone else plays her and if the one called sirci killed batman dead take that to the bank brohans
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Waited on Eternals for Disney +. Waiting to watch as a family. I REALLY wanted to go see Spider Man but the 'vid f'ed that all up.
2Squirrels1Nut
Footballguy
Thanks, just noticed it on DIS+. Don't know anything about these characters.
Any other opinions?
2Squirrels1Nut
Footballguy
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
It is bad, And I am a huge fan of all things Marvel. Loved the new Spiderman- took my kid to see that on Christmas.
AcerFC
Footballguy
So I watched eternals last night. Like others, I thought it was OK. I think the big miss was including every eternal off the bat. It didn’t allow me to have one I really was rooting for. Had they scaled the first movie to 3-4 of them I think it would have resonated more.
And what is the deal with every Marvel baddie this days just wanting to end the existence of people. They can’t come up with anything different.
Had no idea who the Eternals were and no idea that Thanos had a brother. I’m not that into the comic side of things. All in all, decent enough on a Thursday night before watching a west coast Rangers game.
And what is the deal with every Marvel baddie this days just wanting to end the existence of people. They can’t come up with anything different.
Had no idea who the Eternals were and no idea that Thanos had a brother. I’m not that into the comic side of things. All in all, decent enough on a Thursday night before watching a west coast Rangers game.
Jayrod
Footballguy
I finally watched Eternals on Disney+ yesterday as well.
If they didn't mention Thanos, etc. in dialogue you would never know it was a Marvel movie. I liked the history of stuff (Babylon, Gilgamesh, Ikarus), but the whole thing was jumbled and clunky...never seemed to flow and the characters were too rushed and made little sense to me.
My biggest gripes were: ***** spoilers below!! ******
How does Sprite stab Sersi to kill her but then at the end all is good and they are friends again? And why were the Eternals created to look and act just like humans despite supposedly being used on different planets all the time? Like they have emotions and desire families and sex (and one was apparently made a gay man) and Sprite also behaves like a child despite being thousands of years old? They are beings manufactured for a specific reason for interstellar work and live for thousands of years and yet they act simply like humans. Also the name "Eternals" is pretty misleading as they seem to get killed pretty frequently throughout the movie.
If they didn't mention Thanos, etc. in dialogue you would never know it was a Marvel movie. I liked the history of stuff (Babylon, Gilgamesh, Ikarus), but the whole thing was jumbled and clunky...never seemed to flow and the characters were too rushed and made little sense to me.
My biggest gripes were: ***** spoilers below!! ******
How does Sprite stab Sersi to kill her but then at the end all is good and they are friends again? And why were the Eternals created to look and act just like humans despite supposedly being used on different planets all the time? Like they have emotions and desire families and sex (and one was apparently made a gay man) and Sprite also behaves like a child despite being thousands of years old? They are beings manufactured for a specific reason for interstellar work and live for thousands of years and yet they act simply like humans. Also the name "Eternals" is pretty misleading as they seem to get killed pretty frequently throughout the movie.
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Psychopav
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CletiusMaximus
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I'm sure this has been beaten to death already here and elsewhere, but my issue with Marvel - being a non-comic book guy - has always been that it is a franchise where the heroes include guys like Hawkeye and Falcon - basically just really fit dudes with some nifty toys, and also literal gods like Thor and guys like Hulk and Strange and Wanda with massive other-worldly powers. Villains that range from a Bond-style local crime boss to ten-thousand year old galactic aliens who destroy entire planets. Accepting that, its hard when the two meet (Endgame.) Even though I did not like the Hawkeye or Falcon series, I'm happy they seem to be keeping the galactic superheroes and villains separate from the normies now. Even Spiderman - as awesome as he is - seemed way out of place to me when he went into outer space and fought Thanos and his henchmen. So I can fully suspend belief and enjoy the movies about Spiderman and Thanos, but it gets hard for me when Black Widow is using her martial arts kicks to go toe-to-toe with a blue chick using a power orb.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Netflix has the rights and there is no reason for them to give them up. I don't really see reason for Disney to make it worth Netflix to get them.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
I watched The Eternals tonight.
Easily the least of all MCU offerings. The writing was weak and the directing was atrocious. I think the casting was hit and miss that overall missed chemistry. The most likable characters were the most minor (Karun, the valet and Dane Whitman... soon to be Black Knight). Salma Hayek and Angelina Jolie seemed to be in on easy paydays to me. I like Lauren Ridloff but having one of the Eternals deaf was odd for the storyline and even more so when we learned that they were not 'people' but created by the Celestial. The only seeming explanation is being woke and I could do without the other woke parts too.
The kids totally checked out on the movie. I watched because I am so invested in MCU and Marvel from my childhood to now. I normally watch everything multiple times but I can't see putting this one again.
Easily the least of all MCU offerings. The writing was weak and the directing was atrocious. I think the casting was hit and miss that overall missed chemistry. The most likable characters were the most minor (Karun, the valet and Dane Whitman... soon to be Black Knight). Salma Hayek and Angelina Jolie seemed to be in on easy paydays to me. I like Lauren Ridloff but having one of the Eternals deaf was odd for the storyline and even more so when we learned that they were not 'people' but created by the Celestial. The only seeming explanation is being woke and I could do without the other woke parts too.
The kids totally checked out on the movie. I watched because I am so invested in MCU and Marvel from my childhood to now. I normally watch everything multiple times but I can't see putting this one again.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Eternals, we'll put their name to the test (In my best Gerard Butler impersonation.... and yes, I know the line is Immortal but I kept thinking that each time one died)