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Matt Forte - to be more relevant again (2 Viewers)
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Dondante
Footballguy
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Snap counts and utilization through week 1-5..
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Forte
76%
81%
60%
48%
64%
29
33
19
17
14
Powell
24%
23%
41%
52%
47%
8
4
11
13
12
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Forte
76%
81%
60%
48%
64%
29
33
19
17
14
Powell
24%
23%
41%
52%
47%
8
4
11
13
12
Sold him after week 1 for Ingram. Regretted the decision for one week, but have been fairly happy about it ever since.
Dondante
Footballguy
In your opinion is that split going to stabilize at about 50/50 or do you think Powell is on his way to the lion's share?
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I think the last two weeks will end up being pretty representative of the split moving forward where Forte dominates carries and Powell dominates targets out of the backfield. I don't foresee Powell being utilized 20 times a game barring a Forte injury.
skinsrule05
Footballguy
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Did this last week, Got Ingram on his bye week. Not confident though that Saints schedule looks rough.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I mean, define useful. They're both extremely rosterable.
The thing is the Jets have sucked recently and have often found themselves trailing at some point and leaning on Powell. This is going to be like most time shares where each back serves a rather specific role. If you (or I suppose Vegas) thinks the Jets are favored then I'd be more inclined to go with Forte. If the Jets are dogs I'd be more inclined to go with Powell (in PPR).
I think both should be viewed as flex plays though.
Yeah, I noticed that schedule as well, but Ingram should be involved in the passing game no matter how the games play out, which makes him viable every week.
I have a feeling that the low usage early in the season may have had something to do with seeing how that shoulder holds up... coming out of the bye I could easily see a spike in touches. Purely speculation of course
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Hope your right, it was nice seeing some catches. Hopefully Cadet doesn't become the 3rd down guy.Yeah, I noticed that schedule as well, but Ingram should be involved in the passing game no matter how the games play out, which makes him viable every week.
I have a feeling that the low usage early in the season may have had something to do with seeing how that shoulder holds up... coming out of the bye I could easily see a spike in touches. Purely speculation of course
Hu-Tang Clan
Footballguy
Doesn't Forte have the record for most receptions in a year for RB from a couple of years back? How does he not get on the field for 3rd downs or anything anymore?
Hu-Tang Clan
Footballguy
If Geno gets the start do they try and commit more to the run?
MattFancy
Footballguy
Was thinking the same thing. But in turn, do teams stack the box and dare Geno to beat them?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yes, Geno will be running for his life.
Matt Forte owners during his 30+ carry game:
Matt Forte since his 30+ carry game:
I have been asking myself this question every time I watch the Jets play...they treat him like he is a liability out of the backfield. If they are committed to getting Powell on the field, then I say let him tote the rock on first down and put Forte in on passing plays...he seems better in space that Powell IMO
dipandglide
Footballguy
Me turning down H. Henry/2nd after week 2 is looking really bad right now.
glock
"Don't grumble, give a whistle!"
zamboni
Footballguy
I think the use of Powell is not a knock on Forte's ability, but rather to keep him from wearing out after his huge workloads the first few weeks. He's still 30 after all.
And the fact that Powell is also very adept in the passing game makes the decision easier for Bowles & Co.
And the fact that Powell is also very adept in the passing game makes the decision easier for Bowles & Co.
I would buy this if Powell has been effective....but, c'mon....If you are an NFL coach and your team is losing, you have to put your playmakers on the field.
zamboni
Footballguy
I don't think Powell has been bad - no less effective than Forte of late. Let's face it - the whole offense has been a dumpster fire since the Bills game.
mnmplayer
Footballguy
Fitz has imploded this offense plain and simple. There are not a lot of RBs who would have good stat lines with their QB throwing 6 picks vs any team, let a lone @KC. Then they faced off against SEA/@PIT/@ARZ which is tough on any running game. Pitt was vulnerable but are tough at home and he only got 53 yards on 12 carries which isn't bad ypc actually, but they got behind. Don't panic. The schedule gets a lot easier after this week. BAL may shut down NYJ running game again and I would buy Forte after that.
He has at least 5 good matchups left with MIA twice, IND, SF and CLE.
LA and NE twice could be considered 3 avg. matchups. I guess you could put MIA in this category too.
Bottom line, after the BAL game nobody really scares me and he has some nice plus matchups coming up. Of course Geno is a risk to implode too, but they could lean on the running game more as well.
He has at least 5 good matchups left with MIA twice, IND, SF and CLE.
LA and NE twice could be considered 3 avg. matchups. I guess you could put MIA in this category too.
Bottom line, after the BAL game nobody really scares me and he has some nice plus matchups coming up. Of course Geno is a risk to implode too, but they could lean on the running game more as well.
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Kenny Powers
Footballguy
To the bench until I see some life from both the NYJ offense and Forte, and a better snap ratio for him
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MrJimiT
Footballguy
I traded him in a package deal to acquire Lacey & Jefferey....not even 45 minutes after trade....I see that Lacey is injured more than suspected (and eventually put on IR). So yes I got to see Jefferey get me a whopping 6 points and my league-mate's Forte blow up for 30+. Joke was on me for sure!!
For what it is worth, if Forte's usage can hold up...he has a favorable schedule upcoming in the next few weeks.
need2know
Footballguy
Matt Forte's MRI earlier this week revealed a torn meniscus in his knee.
Forte suspects he's been playing with it all season and still hopes to play Saturday night against the Dolphins. With the Jets' season over, there's no reason for Forte to play unless he has playing-time incentives or yardage-based perks built into his contract. Bilal Powell is tentatively expected to start.
Source: Rich Cimini on Twitter
Dec 14 - 2:48 PM
Forte suspects he's been playing with it all season and still hopes to play Saturday night against the Dolphins. With the Jets' season over, there's no reason for Forte to play unless he has playing-time incentives or yardage-based perks built into his contract. Bilal Powell is tentatively expected to start.
Source: Rich Cimini on Twitter
Dec 14 - 2:48 PM
What are the chances Forte is moved, and who are likely buyers?
I drafted Forte very late as an emergency RB and possible trade bait if he starts out okay.
MattFancy
Footballguy
I think he ends up getting cut. No team is going to give up much for a 32y/o RB who appears to be on his last legs. Wherever he ends up, I wouldn't expect a large role.
Blick
Footballguy
Trust me, if Forte was made game day active on my team, the wheels fell way off and I am running under Fred Flinstone power in the world of the Jetsons.
Best case is Forte has a few decent games early in the season and I can flip him for a TE or as part of a multi player trade.
I do not know if he would he cut out right by the Jets - they still owe him like $4 mil
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I think people soured on Powell a bit after watching Forte get so much work during the 3rd preseason game but it turns out they were likely just showcasing Forte. I'm going to send out some offers for Powell to see if I can grab him for relatively cheap before the season starts.
zamboni
Footballguy
I think Forte will start, but will split with McGuire. Not sure if evenly, but between Forte’s injury and age, I don’t see him carrying the load. Could be wrong though in a critical (can’t believe I wrote that for the Jets in week 6) game where experience may be most important to Bowles.
Skoo
Footballguy
Pretty happy that I'm joining you Forte owners as of this morning. 
I haven't been following the situation very closely, and I know there have been injuries all around, but does anyone feel like they have a handle on what's going on in this backfield? Obviously this was Forte's first big game, but also his first game over 10 carries I believe. Is there good reason to thinks this continues?
Any insight is much appreciated, thanks!
I haven't been following the situation very closely, and I know there have been injuries all around, but does anyone feel like they have a handle on what's going on in this backfield? Obviously this was Forte's first big game, but also his first game over 10 carries I believe. Is there good reason to thinks this continues?
Any insight is much appreciated, thanks!
