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Matt Hasselback out against the Giants (1 Viewer)
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No Way Jose
Footballguy
I don't know if he is any good, but I do hope he has a great game and keeps Hass on the bench. Dude needs to hang it up.
VaTerp
Footballguy
NYG is very good against the pass AND Sea's o-line is pretty banged up.
I think you would have to be fairly desperate to even consider Whitehurst as a play this week. The fact that they are at home might be the only saving grace but I would look elsewhere. Almost anywhere else.
I think you would have to be fairly desperate to even consider Whitehurst as a play this week. The fact that they are at home might be the only saving grace but I would look elsewhere. Almost anywhere else.
Sputnikv8
Footballguy
Local radio shows topic of the week is whether the Hawks can even put together a competitive effort against this pass rush, given all the injuries.
Babu Bhatt2
Footballguy
I'm starting him. Dynasty league and the only other starting option on the waiver wire is Matt Moore. I'll take my chances with Coffee Jesus.
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Is Okung in or out? I know he didn't practice on Wed. How has Whitehurst looked for either SD or Seattle in preseason?
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Inaccurate. Good arm strength. Derek Anderson-esque. Maybe with a little more intangibles.
Was rattled against 1st team defenses this preseason, so this might be a harsh learning curve.
Was rattled against 1st team defenses this preseason, so this might be a harsh learning curve.
Sammy Traveller
Footballguy
the Seattle O-linemen better not blow their assignments against the Giants defense. Dallas learned the hard way against this team.
nysportsfan
Footballguy
BMW no longer a good play? Any homers with insight or what might be the effects of Hass v. Whitehurst?
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I'm not real confident about Big Mike with Hass vs the NYG, and Whitehurst may have talent but..... his first start would not be a great time to take the BMW out for a spin.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
More yards, more INTs. I wouldn't necessarily bench BMW if he's your WR3.The only risk is gameplan. Will Carrol play it safe and try to run Lynch a lot early. Maybe.
nysportsfan
Footballguy
I might do the same if I was Carroll. Can't have the Giants pass rush come up field every single play, it will be lights out for CW before long. They need to try and establish the run game to make the ends respect the pass rush. If successful, this will provide some additional time for CW and maybe let BMW get open a bit more. The Giants don't have anything close to Oak's Scrabble, but they don't need to cover as well with a dominant front 7. A lot of variables, but I think playing at home helps them a lot. I will likely roll with BMW, but not expect too much.
Chaka
Footballguy
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
I don't think people realize how bad Hasselbeck has become. Whitehurst will be better almost by default.
And the Giants have struggled in Seattle even when they're good: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/tiny/UsFWE
The Giants are a lot better than Seattle, though, so I certainly wouldn't want to play Whitehurst. But this game could be a lot closer than people think. And I wouldn't hesitate to start BMW if you normally do.
And the Giants have struggled in Seattle even when they're good: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/tiny/UsFWE
The Giants are a lot better than Seattle, though, so I certainly wouldn't want to play Whitehurst. But this game could be a lot closer than people think. And I wouldn't hesitate to start BMW if you normally do.
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Dazed and Confused
Footballguy
This is going to be a blowout. Sux for Nicks. He better score early.
northwoods
Footballguy
Just picked up Giants D as a bye-week replacement... :bigsmile:
Lutherman2112
Footballguy
Giants D is my waiver claim for this week...just waiting for my request to process @ 700pm.:fingerscrossed:
yes, I definitely agree with the above. I'll always have a place in my heart for Hasselbeck, the guy did take my Seahawks to the Superbowl and were it not for cheating refs, would have won the superbowl. But he is no where near what he was 5 years ago. In fact, even then, I think it was more Holmgren and his system than it was Hasselbeck. If you get an NFL caliber QB and put him in a system and teach him the system for 6 years, then he is going to play at a pro-bowl level. Especially if the system and coach are good, and Holmgren is perhaps one of the best at bringing up a QB.Anyway, one thing is for sure, Matt is just not that good right now. Whitehurst I believe will do better. The problem is that they are going up against the best team in the NFC and one of the best in football. This isn't the Raiders they are up against. So his performance will either be incredible or horrible, but 1 game against the Giants is not enough time to make a decision.
harryhood
Footballguy
Good point chase. Don't ever remind me again bout the last time Big Blue traveled to Seattle. F'in Tynes.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
If you had an OL like Hass has in Seattle you would look terrible as well.
MarcO
Footballguy
Rumor is that the concussion was more of a convenient excuse for Carroll and the front office to go to Whitehurst. Unless the bearded one really struggles, don't expect to see Matt get his job back.
cubbie5150
Footballguy
Chuck's gonna get crushed...Osi & Co. will feast this week; wish I owned NYG DST.
Baron Samedi
Footballguy
I would pick up and start Moore against the saints this week over clipboard heysus. I cant believe you would prefer to start a guy making his 1st career start against that defense....your crazzzzzy.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Seems odd that they made the trade and signed Charlie to a decent deal to not give him a chance to play.Rumor is that the concussion was more of a convenient excuse for Carroll and the front office to go to Whitehurst. Unless the bearded one really struggles, don't expect to see Matt get his job back.
This summer someone on the radio said something like they made enough changes that had to be hard for Seahawks fans to deal with, they didn't need a QB controversy too. I think that's a good explanation.
Chaka
Footballguy
Pete opened the QB position for competition. He signed Whitehurst as his guy (evidenced by the draft pick and decent contract). Hasselbeck outplayed and outpracticed Whitehurst. It's that simple.One thing I heard pretty consistently about Whitehurst from his San Diego days is that he isn't a very good practice player, he gets stuck in his own head too much. I think he would probably perform better under live action when he doesn't have time to think and just has to react. Well this week we get to find out. Although the matchup sucks.Bri said:
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
Hasselbeck, weeks 1-7:
208 yards per game, 59.8% completion percentage, 6.1 yards per attempt, 1.2 TDs, 1 INTs, 2.3 sacks
Those numbers aren't great, but they're not terrible either. He's got a low YPA because he's playing in a conservative offense with inferior receiving talent. You could try to throw the ball downfield more often, but what if that results in more turnovers? I'm just not sure if it's possible to "open up the offense" on this team.
I'll be surprised if Whitehurst puts up better numbers.
208 yards per game, 59.8% completion percentage, 6.1 yards per attempt, 1.2 TDs, 1 INTs, 2.3 sacks
Those numbers aren't great, but they're not terrible either. He's got a low YPA because he's playing in a conservative offense with inferior receiving talent. You could try to throw the ball downfield more often, but what if that results in more turnovers? I'm just not sure if it's possible to "open up the offense" on this team.
I'll be surprised if Whitehurst puts up better numbers.
Catbird
Footballguy
One thing I heard pretty consistently about Whitehurst from his San Diego days is that he isn't a very good practice player, he gets stuck in his own head too much. I think he would probably perform better under live action when he doesn't have time to think and just has to react. Well this week we get to find out. Although the matchup sucks.
Well this should be the perfect situation, because he sure isn't going to have any time to think.
I think Matty is a better QB and that he is doing pretty well with a terrible OL, but he doesn't have much future. I doubt CW does nearly as well, but it makes sense to play him and get a sense. This is just an awful setting for a first appearance.
I would give up a shiny bauble if it meant I could upgrade from Whitehurst to Moore for this week.
Well this should be the perfect situation, because he sure isn't going to have any time to think.
I think Matty is a better QB and that he is doing pretty well with a terrible OL, but he doesn't have much future. I doubt CW does nearly as well, but it makes sense to play him and get a sense. This is just an awful setting for a first appearance.
I would give up a shiny bauble if it meant I could upgrade from Whitehurst to Moore for this week.
Daniel Shirley
Footballguy
He was probably scared, can go ahead and count this one as another QB the Giants have knocked out... Hide your women, children, and quarterbacks when these guys come to town. sheesh.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Thank you.This has been the question of the week for me.
Big Mike has been one of those sneaky WR plays and he was just coming into his own until the Oakland disaster. Now Mike is hurt and Hass is out.
So, really, start Big Mike?
CrossEyed
Footballguy
I think Burleson starts over BMW for me this week.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I think that a whole lot of groupthink is going on here.
The Giants are on the road and travel 3 time zones over. Whitehurst is fresh and probably an upgrade over worn out and beaten down Hasselbeck. BMW is listed as probable coming off a tough outing at Oakland. I don't think his knee bruise will limit him. In fact, I expect a bounce back game. Hard not to bounce back from 1/27 on 5 targets.
Don't get me wrong, I am not calling for the Seahawks to win or even beat the spread. I just think that ignoring their fantasy point potential will have some people kicking themselves on Sunday.
The Giants are on the road and travel 3 time zones over. Whitehurst is fresh and probably an upgrade over worn out and beaten down Hasselbeck. BMW is listed as probable coming off a tough outing at Oakland. I don't think his knee bruise will limit him. In fact, I expect a bounce back game. Hard not to bounce back from 1/27 on 5 targets.
Don't get me wrong, I am not calling for the Seahawks to win or even beat the spread. I just think that ignoring their fantasy point potential will have some people kicking themselves on Sunday.
MarcO
Footballguy
The Hawks offensive line has to be the worst in football right at the moment. You got guys that shouldn't even be in the league trying to block the most dominate and brutal D line in football right now. I don't expect to see much room for Lynch to run or time for Whitehurst to get the ball to any WRs. I may be wrong, but I wouldn't touch a SEA offensive player this week.Raiderfan32904 said:
seahawk 17
Footballguy
Whitehurst only came in last week after Hass had been hurt, and the game was way out of hand before that. While he was in he didn't even throw a pass.
Whitehurst is bad, giving up a 3rd round pick is the one mistake that the new Seahawk staff have made.
Whitehurst is bad, giving up a 3rd round pick is the one mistake that the new Seahawk staff have made.
buck naked
Footballguy
Shine what? My shoes? Because that is all Whitehurst will be worth.
I am considering Max Hall over Whitehurst this week.
It won't affect the outcome, but I should have started Hall.
SuperGreen
Footballguy
is this the "whitehurst or a rubber chicken" thread?
