Matt Leinart to announce decision today (1 Viewer)

[cstu]

IDIOT.

if you say so. he has logical reasons for it. you may not agree, but that doesn't make him an idiot.

He's not idiot, he's just doing what he wants to do. I don't have a problem with that but it isn't the smart thing to do (at least right now) and makes me wonder about him as an NFL QB. Is he afraid of going to the NFL and failing? Is he staying in school because it's safer? Coming from a well-off family and having lived comfortably his whole life, does he have the drive to become a great QB?

 

[Bojang0301]

C'mon there is slight upside with a greater down side to this decision. He has to be flawless to be drafted where he would probably go now. Everyone will expect a Heisman and a National title from him. Enjoy the criticism Matt you earned it.

 

[Colin Dowling]

OMG he's staying.

serious?

Yes, I couldn't believe the words coming out of his mouth. He really must not like the 49ers

What a moron! He's turning down millions of dollars and the potential #1 pick for what?

you obviously never went to college ... or if you did it was some tech school or community college.My college years were the best. Looking back, I'd want to take more time to screw off.

Yes, college was great and I probably spent more time there than anyone here that isn't a doctor but I didn't have a $40 million paycheck guaranteed waiting for me.

you also didn't have every hot USC co-ed you.or maybe you did...i shouldn't speak for you.

bagger, I don't expect much from you, but this is absurd. If he's the #1 pick in the NFL draft, he can pretty much get with any single "co-ed" in North America, including those at USC.COlin

 

[tommyGunZ]

IDIOT.

if you say so. he has logical reasons for it. you may not agree, but that doesn't make him an idiot.

fair enough.But risking the wealth of 3-4 generations of Leinarts so that he can have another year of "fun" at USC is about as close to idiotic as you can get in my book.

Risk >>>>>> reward

 

[cstu]

OMG he's staying.

serious?

Yes, I couldn't believe the words coming out of his mouth. He really must not like the 49ers

What a moron! He's turning down millions of dollars and the potential #1 pick for what?

you obviously never went to college ... or if you did it was some tech school or community college.My college years were the best. Looking back, I'd want to take more time to screw off.

Yes, college was great and I probably spent more time there than anyone here that isn't a doctor but I didn't have a $40 million paycheck guaranteed waiting for me.

you also didn't have every hot USC co-ed you.or maybe you did...i shouldn't speak for you.

Those USC co-eds are nice, but as an NFL QB he would be able to hook up them as well as co-eds all over the country

 

[ILUVBEER99]

I would think this would drop his draft status for next year.He has shown an inability to make rational decisions.

 

[Colin Dowling]

"Hello, this is the 49ers front office. We're interested in moving down in the draft. Would you like to trade for the #1 pick?.....NO?....you wouldnt?....but we really don't want it either........"Repeat x 32.COlin

 

[CalBear]

Someone should have reminded him that it stands for "University of Second Choice."At least this makes Rogers' decision look better; without competition from Leinart, he's likely to go high in the first round even after the questions about his measurables come out.

 

[9985]

Niners = You may have won this round Mr. Leinart, but we'll be #1 next year too! Muhahahahahahaha. :gang:

 

[cstu]

Niners = You may have won this round Mr. Leinart, but we'll be #1 next year too! Muhahahahahahaha. :gang:

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

 

[KevT]

Niners =

Only in terms of trading the #1 pick, the 49ers already stated they aren't going with a QB first.

 

[coolbeans59]

I would think this would drop his draft status for next year.He has shown an inability to make rational decisions.

If I was a GM, it would increase my rating of him.Shows that he wants to WIN!!!!!

 

[agent 86]

Bill Walsh would be rolling over in his grave .......... Oh, he's still alive?Never mind.

 

[BassNBrew]

IDIOT.

if you say so. he has logical reasons for it. you may not agree, but that doesn't make him an idiot.

fair enough.But risking the wealth of 3-4 generations of Leinarts so that he can have another year of "fun" at USC is about as close to idiotic as you can get in my book.

Risk >>>>>> reward

Maybe everyone isn't as driven by money and greed as a conservative like you.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

Virginia Cav OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson is insane for not coming out this year now.Come on Brick!

 

[Voice Of Reason]

for Leinart.Happiness > Money.

 

[bagger.]

IDIOT.

if you say so. he has logical reasons for it. you may not agree, but that doesn't make him an idiot.

fair enough.But risking the wealth of 3-4 generations of Leinarts so that he can have another year of "fun" at USC is about as close to idiotic as you can get in my book.

Risk >>>>>> reward

Maybe everyone isn't as driven by money and greed as a conservative like you.

:rotflmao:

 

[bagger.]

OMG he's staying.

serious?

Yes, I couldn't believe the words coming out of his mouth. He really must not like the 49ers

What a moron! He's turning down millions of dollars and the potential #1 pick for what?

you obviously never went to college ... or if you did it was some tech school or community college.My college years were the best. Looking back, I'd want to take more time to screw off.

Yes, college was great and I probably spent more time there than anyone here that isn't a doctor but I didn't have a $40 million paycheck guaranteed waiting for me.

you also didn't have every hot USC co-ed you.or maybe you did...i shouldn't speak for you.

bagger, I don't expect much from you, but this is absurd. If he's the #1 pick in the NFL draft, he can pretty much get with any single "co-ed" in North America, including those at USC.COlin

you take the one post where i am joking and analyze that?i understand you don't expect much from me, most of my contributions here came before you got here.

 

[helix]

Only in terms of trading the #1 pick, the 49ers already stated they aren't going with a QB first.

By the 9'ers you mean who? Last time I checked they don't have a GM or a coach. The new regime (whomever it will be) may what to start fresh and begin with a fanchise QB. One thing is for sure, no one knows what the 9'ers will do. Especially some jackhole on this board-

 

[Limecuda]

I will refrain from calling the boy an idiot, but if he has the goal/ambition of playing professional fb why do you turn down the highest shot you will ever have? So maybe it is not about money, but you are healthy and will definitely be drafted. The only place he can go from here is down. There is absolutely nothing to gain footballwise by staying. You can always finish school.

 

[Colin Dowling]

OMG he's staying.

serious?

Yes, I couldn't believe the words coming out of his mouth. He really must not like the 49ers

What a moron! He's turning down millions of dollars and the potential #1 pick for what?

you obviously never went to college ... or if you did it was some tech school or community college.My college years were the best. Looking back, I'd want to take more time to screw off.

Yes, college was great and I probably spent more time there than anyone here that isn't a doctor but I didn't have a $40 million paycheck guaranteed waiting for me.

you also didn't have every hot USC co-ed you.or maybe you did...i shouldn't speak for you.

bagger, I don't expect much from you, but this is absurd. If he's the #1 pick in the NFL draft, he can pretty much get with any single "co-ed" in North America, including those at USC.COlin

you take the one post where i am joking and analyze that?i understand you don't expect much from me, most of my contributions here came before you got here.

No offense meant. Iwas just having a little fun Bagger, I dig your style.COlin

 

[Loan Sharks]

I would think this would drop his draft status for next year.He has shown an inability to make rational decisions.

If I was a GM, it would increase my rating of him.Shows that he wants to WIN!!!!!

I want to win too!!!! That is why I still play Pee Wee football and never declared for Highschool football, then college football then the pros. You should see these little kids try to tackle a 35 year old, its pathetic. Here comes another PAL league title, I'll be a playground legend! NFL Scout "Hey Matt guess what you are gonna win the lottery tommorrow."Matt " Naw, I'll just win it next year."What a #######.

 

[tommyGunZ]

IDIOT.

if you say so. he has logical reasons for it. you may not agree, but that doesn't make him an idiot.

fair enough.But risking the wealth of 3-4 generations of Leinarts so that he can have another year of "fun" at USC is about as close to idiotic as you can get in my book.

Risk >>>>>> reward

Maybe everyone isn't as driven by money and greed as a conservative like you.

 

[Wilbur Wood]

I'm not sure that this is good news for the USC football program. They have reached the pinnacle with Leinart and their/Carroll's legacy will be better served by turning over the 2005 QB reins to Booty, etc. and winning another national championship with a new helmsman. Decreasing the velocity through stud talent moves through the USC pipeline may serve to dissuade as much new blue chip talent from enrolling b/c of a bottle neck. USC has an opportunity to go a 5 year run at the top here and I think that this may "hurt" them in terms of 2006/7, while could win without Leinart in 2005

 

[bagger.]

I'm not sure that this is good news for the USC football program. They have reached the pinnacle with Leinart and their/Carroll's legacy will be better served by turning over the 2005 QB reins to Booty, etc. and winning another national championship with a new helmsman. Decreasing the velocity through stud talent moves through the USC pipeline may serve to dissuade as much new blue chip talent from enrolling b/c of a bottle neck. USC has an opportunity to go a 5 year run at the top here and I think that this may "hurt" them in terms of 2006/7, while could win without Leinart in 2005

despite booty's potential, i think every USC fan would prefer the known quantity of leinart next year.

 

[Chase Stuart]

I wonder how much of this backlash comes from this being an NFL board, and not a NCAA board. Not everyone views college football as a stepping stone to the NFL, including Matt Leinart.Personally, I could care less about college football. But this isn't like a minor league baseball player staying in the minors--college football is more important than the NFL to a lot of people.

 

[cstu]

I would think this would drop his draft status for next year.He has shown an inability to make rational decisions.

If I was a GM, it would increase my rating of him.Shows that he wants to WIN!!!!!

I want to win too!!!! That is why I still play Pee Wee football and never declared for Highschool football, then college football then the pros. You should see these little kids try to tackle a 35 year old, its pathetic. Here comes another PAL league title, I'll be a playground legend! NFL Scout "Hey Matt guess what you are gonna win the lottery tommorrow."Matt " Naw, I'll just win it next year."What a #######.

He may want to win, but it's a bad sign that he would rather stay in college and win with a loaded - and I mean loaded - team that would for another title without him, than go pro and LEAD a team to wins.

 

[cstu]

I'm not sure that this is good news for the USC football program. They have reached the pinnacle with Leinart and their/Carroll's legacy will be better served by turning over the 2005 QB reins to Booty, etc. and winning another national championship with a new helmsman. Decreasing the velocity through stud talent moves through the USC pipeline may serve to dissuade as much new blue chip talent from enrolling b/c of a bottle neck. USC has an opportunity to go a 5 year run at the top here and I think that this may "hurt" them in terms of 2006/7, while could win without Leinart in 2005

It will hurt them if Mark Sanchez decides not to go to USC now. They already have 2 QB's who will only be reshirt freshman (Rocky Hinds) and sophmores (John David Booty) next year. Sanchez could conceivably spend at least 3 years on the bench.

 

[SC Trojans]

I love that people bash his decision. Yes, I am an SC alum and die hard fan of the program. That being said though, I think it is refreshing to see someone who makes a decision that is not purely based on the financial end result. If I was in his shoes, I would have 100% for sure said "see ya" to the college life and went on to collect my millions...therefore securing my future. However, I think Leinart should be applauded for making a decision based on "other things" and just wanting to enjoy his time in school. He is king of the world in LA and is a celebrity. He is having the time of his life. Why mock the guy for making a decision that is wrong TO YOU...when it is obviously the right one for him?In a world where people are judged by how much money they make and what kind of cars they drive, it is nice to see this kind of thing happen.

 

[SC Trojans]

I'm not sure that this is good news for the USC football program. They have reached the pinnacle with Leinart and their/Carroll's legacy will be better served by turning over the 2005 QB reins to Booty, etc. and winning another national championship with a new helmsman. Decreasing the velocity through stud talent moves through the USC pipeline may serve to dissuade as much new blue chip talent from enrolling b/c of a bottle neck. USC has an opportunity to go a 5 year run at the top here and I think that this may "hurt" them in terms of 2006/7, while could win without Leinart in 2005

It will hurt them if Mark Sanchez decides not to go to USC now. They already have 2 QB's who will only be reshirt freshman (Rocky Hinds) and sophmores (John David Booty) next year. Sanchez could conceivably spend at least 3 years on the bench.

If Sanchez is as good as advertised and likes competition, he should still go to SC and compete for the job.

 

[*****]

I'm not sure that this is good news for the USC football program. They have reached the pinnacle with Leinart and their/Carroll's legacy will be better served by turning over the 2005 QB reins to Booty, etc. and winning another national championship with a new helmsman. Decreasing the velocity through stud talent moves through the USC pipeline may serve to dissuade as much new blue chip talent from enrolling b/c of a bottle neck. USC has an opportunity to go a 5 year run at the top here and I think that this may "hurt" them in terms of 2006/7, while could win without Leinart in 2005

It will hurt them if Mark Sanchez decides not to go to USC now. They already have 2 QB's who will only be reshirt freshman (Rocky Hinds) and sophmores (John David Booty) next year. Sanchez could conceivably spend at least 3 years on the bench.

Not really. They have two young studs and if Leinert has a good season next year, they'll recruit one of the better QBs next year. Top recruiting programs go through cycles based on the depth of certain positions. USC will just have to settle for getting the best high school QB next year instead of this year. Boo hoo. They'll be fine. They'll get next year's Sanchez--or one of them.

 

[*****]

"Hello, this is the 49ers front office. We're interested in moving down in the draft. Would you like to trade for the #1 pick?.....NO?....you wouldnt?....but we really don't want it either........"Repeat x 32.COlin

Isn't it x31? Or are they so desparate they place that call to themselves. Perhaps they are.

 

[Bojang0301]

Alex Smith was number 3 on Mel Kipers board with Rodgers at 6

 

[blkjck74]

I heard on the radio today, that Joey Harrington recently said that he never had aspirations to play in the NFL. His dream was to play college football. The NFL is just what he does for a living. Maybe that's why Matt made this decision.

 

[Goat Herders]

I heard on the radio today, that Joey Harrington recently said that he never had aspirations to play in the NFL. His dream was to play college football. The NFL is just what he does for a living. Maybe that's why Matt made this decision.

Same thing Ricky Williams said...

 

[cstu]

I heard on the radio today, that Joey Harrington recently said that he never had aspirations to play in the NFL. His dream was to play college football. The NFL is just what he does for a living. Maybe that's why Matt made this decision.

Same thing Ricky Williams said...

Not good signs. :X

 

[Capella]

I wonder how much of this backlash comes from this being an NFL board, and not a NCAA board. Not everyone views college football as a stepping stone to the NFL, including Matt Leinart.Personally, I could care less about college football. But this isn't like a minor league baseball player staying in the minors--college football is more important than the NFL to a lot of people.

I think you'd be pretty hard-pressed to find too many bigger college football nuts around here than myself (Bagger, Red, others in the FFA)..and I think he's a moron.I appreciate the fact he wants to stay in the college game, and I appreciate the fact that he has a chance to win back-to-back titles..but under no means do you turn down the kind of money he was going to make. Just doesn't make sense. But kudos to him. Hope that leg doesn't snap.

 

[FFchamp]

Living where he grew up and the schools that he went to leads me to believe that he is not hurting for money (and please don't say he was on a full ride and didn't pay a dime). That and a HUGE insurance policy I would think will cover the money questions.As a fan of the sport what is not to like about a decision based on finishing what he started. He has one more yr and a serious chance to make history. Heisman aside, he can lead a team to a unprecedented third title. Not many people get the opportunity to play in the NFL and even less get the opportunity that he has next year.Tom

 

[EBF]

I'll be happy to have Leinart back for another year in my college dynasty league, but I was going to take him at 1.04 in a rookie draft and will now have to look elsewhere.

 

[Bojang0301]

I'll be happy to have Leinart back for another year in my college dynasty league, but I was going to take him at 1.04 in a rookie draft and will now have to look elsewhere.

Dude if your in that much need of a QB trade down or trade for a vet. Brown, Cadillac, Benson, or Fason could be at that spot with the possibility of some still high profile RB underclassman entering or being drafted into a sweet situation. Not to mention Mike Williams or Braylon Edwards. Trade down rookie QB's take time.

 

[Yenrub]

Somebody needs to tell Matt the story about Ken SwillingJunior year – projected to be a 1st round pickGoes back for Senior year @ Ga. Tech and gets injured. Drafted in the 7th round by the Bucs. Never plays a down in the NFL

BIG difference.Swilling was at a position a knee injury COULD hurt his NFL chances (speed is critical). AND it happened 15+ years ago.Science has come a LOOOOONG way in 15 years.

I understand that science has come a long way in the last 15 years.The guy can still suffer a career threating injury.So he is coming back for a 5th year huh? 4 wasn't enough.

 

[cstu]

Somebody needs to tell Matt the story about Ken SwillingJunior year – projected to be a 1st round pickGoes back for Senior year @ Ga. Tech and gets injured. Drafted in the 7th round by the Bucs. Never plays a down in the NFL

BIG difference.Swilling was at a position a knee injury COULD hurt his NFL chances (speed is critical). AND it happened 15+ years ago.Science has come a LOOOOONG way in 15 years.

I understand that science has come a long way in the last 15 years.The guy can still suffer a career threating injury.So he is coming back for a 5th year huh? 4 wasn't enough.

Maybe in his 6th year he can win a 4th title and 3rd Heisman. I'm sure that would be a record! :rotflmao:

 

[Marc Levin]

Maybe he is simply trying to avoid the Heisman QB curse, though I am not sure that failing to win it in your last year in college necessary breaks the voodoo.

 

[Horses Mouth]

for Leinart.Happiness > Money.

you obviously don't have money

 

[Mystery Achiever]

I heard on the radio today, that Joey Harrington recently said that he never had aspirations to play in the NFL. His dream was to play college football. The NFL is just what he does for a living. Maybe that's why Matt made this decision.

Same thing Ricky Williams said...

But also same thing Curtis Martin said.

 

[3nOut]

I'm can't say for sure what his rationale was but I could see that he feels that he could do something that NO other QB has ever done, not Elway, Manning, Marino...

That is to win 3 consecutive NCAA championships. He must have a lot of confidence in himself and in his team for him to stay. So these things can happen:

1. He wins another Heisman and wins another championship.

In this scenario, he will still be #1 and will earn even more.

2. He wins the championship, not the Heisman, but still plays well.

3. He wins the championship despite playing less than his ability.

4. Does not win the championship but wins the Heisman.

5. Does not win the championship nor the Heisman but plays well.

Does not hurt him, still a first-round pick.

6. Does not win either and doesnt play as well.

7. Gets hurt.

Drops in the draft but still goes pro.

8. Career ending injury.

Self explaining.

Odds are he will still be fine. Maybe thats his line of thinking. One question though. I am not that huge of a college fan, are there any other QBs that are coming pout next year that are better than him and would be taken before him without question?

 

[Bojang0301]

I'm can't say for sure what his rationale was but I could see that he feels that he could do something that NO other QB has ever done, not Elway, Manning, Marino...

That is to win 3 consecutive NCAA championships. He must have a lot of confidence in himself and in his team for him to stay. So these things can happen:

1. He wins another Heisman and wins another championship.

In this scenario, he will still be #1 and will earn even more.

2. He wins the championship, not the Heisman, but still plays well.

3. He wins the championship despite playing less than his ability.

4. Does not win the championship but wins the Heisman.

5. Does not win the championship nor the Heisman but plays well.

Does not hurt him, still a first-round pick.

6. Does not win either and doesnt play as well.

7. Gets hurt.

Drops in the draft but still goes pro.

8. Career ending injury.

Self explaining.

Odds are he will still be fine. Maybe thats his line of thinking. One question though. I am not that huge of a college fan, are there any other QBs that are coming pout next year that are better than him and would be taken before him without question?

Vincent Young is one that comes to mind.

 

[CalBear]

I'm can't say for sure what his rationale was but I could see that he feels that he could do something that NO other QB has ever done, not Elway, Manning, Marino...

Elway never even went to a bowl game.

 

[Riffraff]

I1. He wins another Heisman and wins another championship.

In this scenario, he will still be #1 and will earn even more.

Hmm, how does one earn more than the #1 pick if you are picked #1?The usual yearly 3-5% increase in signing bonus would have to cover the difference in the missed year and any interest earned on the year's pay (plus any lifetime multiplier of that interest earned).

And if he isn't #1 next year.. taller mountain to climb.

 

[cstu]

I'm can't say for sure what his rationale was but I could see that he feels that he could do something that NO other QB has ever done, not Elway, Manning, Marino...

That is to win 3 consecutive NCAA championships. He must have a lot of confidence in himself and in his team for him to stay. So these things can happen:

1. He wins another Heisman and wins another championship.

In this scenario, he will still be #1 and will earn even more.

2. He wins the championship, not the Heisman, but still plays well.

3. He wins the championship despite playing less than his ability.

4. Does not win the championship but wins the Heisman.

5. Does not win the championship nor the Heisman but plays well.

Does not hurt him, still a first-round pick.

6. Does not win either and doesnt play as well.

7. Gets hurt.

Drops in the draft but still goes pro.

8. Career ending injury.

Self explaining.

Odds are he will still be fine. Maybe thats his line of thinking. One question though. I am not that huge of a college fan, are there any other QBs that are coming pout next year that are better than him and would be taken before him without question?

Vincent Young is one that comes to mind.

He said QB's :rotflmao: