MB III negotiation a looooong term contract with the Boyz. (1 Viewer)

[BigTex]

The Cowboys are trying to hammer out a long term contract with MBIII and Drew. They are trying to get the deal done before the combine is finished and that's the place of their negotiations.

Tex

 

[Maroney=Speed]

The Cowboys are trying to hammer out a long term contract with MBIII and Drew. They are trying to get the deal done before the combine is finished and that's the place of their negotiations.Tex

So were does this now stand?

 

[eric rymer]

yeah Barber is a beast. Hopefully they'll lock him up soon. He's shown that he deserves it.

 

[BigTex]

The Cowboys are trying to hammer out a long term contract with MBIII and Drew. They are trying to get the deal done before the combine is finished and that's the place of their negotiations.Tex

So were does this now stand?

Believe it or not, I've heard that MBIII "might not" want to resign here. That's all I'm saying at this point. I know for a fact that ESPN troll these board and so does a camp of an idividual I know so I'll just leave it at that. Maybe just a ploy for more money. Hopefully, they can get this resolved though.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

The Cowboys are trying to hammer out a long term contract with MBIII and Drew. They are trying to get the deal done before the combine is finished and that's the place of their negotiations.Tex

So were does this now stand?

Believe it or not, I've heard that MBIII "might not" want to resign here. That's all I'm saying at this point. I know for a fact that ESPN troll these board and so does a camp of an idividual I know so I'll just leave it at that. Maybe just a ploy for more money. Hopefully, they can get this resolved though.

Maybe a trade with the Jets is in line,No?My guy says yes. As long as McFadden is there at pick 6.

 

[BigTex]

The Cowboys are trying to hammer out a long term contract with MBIII and Drew. They are trying to get the deal done before the combine is finished and that's the place of their negotiations.Tex

So were does this now stand?

Believe it or not, I've heard that MBIII "might not" want to resign here. That's all I'm saying at this point. I know for a fact that ESPN troll these board and so does a camp of an idividual I know so I'll just leave it at that. Maybe just a ploy for more money. Hopefully, they can get this resolved though.

Maybe a trade with the Jets is in line,No?My guy says yes. As long as McFadden is there at pick 6.

I don't follow, your guy says yes to what? A trade with the Jets?

 

[Max Power]

What tender did MBIII get? A first and Third?

 

[BigTex]

What tender did MBIII get? A first and Third?

Yes

 

[Texasmouth]

The Cowboys are trying to hammer out a long term contract with MBIII and Drew. They are trying to get the deal done before the combine is finished and that's the place of their negotiations.Tex

So were does this now stand?

Believe it or not, I've heard that MBIII "might not" want to resign here. That's all I'm saying at this point. I know for a fact that ESPN troll these board and so does a camp of an idividual I know so I'll just leave it at that. Maybe just a ploy for more money. Hopefully, they can get this resolved though.

I find this hard to believe.

 

[Max Power]

The Cowboys are trying to hammer out a long term contract with MBIII and Drew. They are trying to get the deal done before the combine is finished and that's the place of their negotiations.Tex

So were does this now stand?

Believe it or not, I've heard that MBIII "might not" want to resign here. That's all I'm saying at this point. I know for a fact that ESPN troll these board and so does a camp of an idividual I know so I'll just leave it at that. Maybe just a ploy for more money. Hopefully, they can get this resolved though.

I find this hard to believe.

Maybe he is looking for a place that will make him the feature back...

 

[BigTex]

The Cowboys are trying to hammer out a long term contract with MBIII and Drew. They are trying to get the deal done before the combine is finished and that's the place of their negotiations.Tex

So were does this now stand?

Believe it or not, I've heard that MBIII "might not" want to resign here. That's all I'm saying at this point. I know for a fact that ESPN troll these board and so does a camp of an idividual I know so I'll just leave it at that. Maybe just a ploy for more money. Hopefully, they can get this resolved though.

I find this hard to believe.

You have that right.

 

[Texasmouth]

Everything I have heard from Rosencash interview and from MBIII is that he wants to stay in Dallas long term, that is why he is negotiating a long term deal.

He will be the feature back in Dallas. Why would he want to go somewhere else and learn a new offense? Very few teams have one guy that takes all the snaps anymore. I believe he will get at least 70% of the snaps no matter who they bring in.

 

[Max Power]

The Cowboys are trying to hammer out a long term contract with MBIII and Drew. They are trying to get the deal done before the combine is finished and that's the place of their negotiations.Tex

So were does this now stand?

Believe it or not, I've heard that MBIII "might not" want to resign here. That's all I'm saying at this point. I know for a fact that ESPN troll these board and so does a camp of an idividual I know so I'll just leave it at that. Maybe just a ploy for more money. Hopefully, they can get this resolved though.

Any chance it had something to do with him being mentioned in trades to Miami? I could see how something like that wouldn't sit well with a guy.

 

[BigTex]

Everything I have heard from Rosencash interview and from MBIII is that he wants to stay in Dallas long term, that is why he is negotiating a long term deal. He will be the feature back in Dallas. Why would he want to go somewhere else and learn a new offense? Very few teams have one guy that takes all the snaps anymore. I believe he will get at least 70% of the snaps no matter who they bring in.

No one said that they "were'nt" negotiating, No one said he "wouldn't" be the featured back. No team has a rb taking "all" the snaps.There's a reason why it's taking this long to come to an agreement. Could it be that MBIII want more money.........I guess.

 

[BigTex]

The Cowboys are trying to hammer out a long term contract with MBIII and Drew. They are trying to get the deal done before the combine is finished and that's the place of their negotiations.Tex

So were does this now stand?

Believe it or not, I've heard that MBIII "might not" want to resign here. That's all I'm saying at this point. I know for a fact that ESPN troll these board and so does a camp of an idividual I know so I'll just leave it at that. Maybe just a ploy for more money. Hopefully, they can get this resolved though.

Any chance it had something to do with him being mentioned in trades to Miami? I could see how something like that wouldn't sit well with a guy.

Miami has something to do with it, but not for reasons many may think.

 

[Max Power]

The Cowboys are trying to hammer out a long term contract with MBIII and Drew. They are trying to get the deal done before the combine is finished and that's the place of their negotiations.Tex

So were does this now stand?

Believe it or not, I've heard that MBIII "might not" want to resign here. That's all I'm saying at this point. I know for a fact that ESPN troll these board and so does a camp of an idividual I know so I'll just leave it at that. Maybe just a ploy for more money. Hopefully, they can get this resolved though.

Any chance it had something to do with him being mentioned in trades to Miami? I could see how something like that wouldn't sit well with a guy.

Miami has something to do with it, but not for reasons many may think.

How are you going to do this to me?

 

[BigTex]

The Cowboys are trying to hammer out a long term contract with MBIII and Drew. They are trying to get the deal done before the combine is finished and that's the place of their negotiations.Tex

So were does this now stand?

Believe it or not, I've heard that MBIII "might not" want to resign here. That's all I'm saying at this point. I know for a fact that ESPN troll these board and so does a camp of an idividual I know so I'll just leave it at that. Maybe just a ploy for more money. Hopefully, they can get this resolved though.

Any chance it had something to do with him being mentioned in trades to Miami? I could see how something like that wouldn't sit well with a guy.

Miami has something to do with it, but not for reasons many may think.

How are you going to do this to me?

No, I'm out and I'm still hoping he'll sign the long term deal here.

 

[Max Power]

The Cowboys are trying to hammer out a long term contract with MBIII and Drew. They are trying to get the deal done before the combine is finished and that's the place of their negotiations.Tex

So were does this now stand?

Believe it or not, I've heard that MBIII "might not" want to resign here. That's all I'm saying at this point. I know for a fact that ESPN troll these board and so does a camp of an idividual I know so I'll just leave it at that. Maybe just a ploy for more money. Hopefully, they can get this resolved though.

Any chance it had something to do with him being mentioned in trades to Miami? I could see how something like that wouldn't sit well with a guy.

Miami has something to do with it, but not for reasons many may think.

How are you going to do this to me?

No, I'm out and I'm still hoping he'll sign the long term deal here.

No worries... at least it makes the offseason a bit more interesting.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

The Cowboys are trying to hammer out a long term contract with MBIII and Drew. They are trying to get the deal done before the combine is finished and that's the place of their negotiations.Tex

What's going on with this?Dallas will trade up to pick 1.06 with Jets if McFadden is still on board.This is if Dallas has Barber or not.What have you heard on your side?

 

[redman]

Big Tex's coy schtick is the suck.

 

[Max Power]

Any updates to this?

 

[womb]

Everything I have heard from Rosencash interview and from MBIII is that he wants to stay in Dallas long term, that is why he is negotiating a long term deal. He will be the feature back in Dallas. Why would he want to go somewhere else and learn a new offense? Very few teams have one guy that takes all the snaps anymore. I believe he will get at least 70% of the snaps no matter who they bring in.

Then why do I see Dallas either trading up, or staying put to draft a RB like every 9 out of 10 mock drafts? Does Dallas like burning a 1st rounder or do you think these mockers do not know their stuff all that much?

 

[Mikey16x]

I understand im a spectator in the sport... but to me drafting McFadden makes no sense for dallas. Im an NY homer and life Giants fan and i can tell you me and my buds respect and fear MB III on every snap he takes... why dallas would not want this guy leading their rushing attack next season is beyond me. This guy runs harder then ANY running back in the NFL including big brando.. and he has hands... this guy is a pure stud.. and id be shocked yet happy as hell if dallas decides to take that burden off our shoulders.

 

[BigJim®]

If I had to speculate what's going on, Dallas is holding up the show asking Barber to sign some sweetheart deal that gives them the flexibility to replace or trade him easily. If I'm Barber, there's no way I sign longterm with Dallas with all the rumors flying around. Either Barber gets a real comitment, or he should wait to get it elsewhere while the Cowboys deal with limbo.

 

[coolnerd]

Everything I have heard from Rosencash interview and from MBIII is that he wants to stay in Dallas long term, that is why he is negotiating a long term deal. He will be the feature back in Dallas. Why would he want to go somewhere else and learn a new offense? Very few teams have one guy that takes all the snaps anymore. I believe he will get at least 70% of the snaps no matter who they bring in.

Then why do I see Dallas either trading up, or staying put to draft a RB like every 9 out of 10 mock drafts? Does Dallas like burning a 1st rounder or do you think these mockers do not know their stuff all that much?

The McFadden trade up thing is pure speculation. There is no eveidence from Jones' history that he will trade up in the first round or goes Hog wild over Arkansas players. In terms of drafting a RB, currently under contract the Cowboys have Barber and big bag of nothing, so they will be adding a RB at some point.

 

[dynastyguru32]

There is no way that Dallas will trade MBIII. They have a strong team right now that can vie for a title. They will not give up a proven hardnosed runner like MBIII and rely solely on a unproven rookie with lots of potential. They most likely will get themselves a rb in the daft however I do not think that it will be McFadden.

 

[KellysHeroes]

There is no way that Dallas will trade MBIII. They have a strong team right now that can vie for a title. They will not give up a proven hardnosed runner like MBIII and rely solely on a unproven rookie with lots of potential. They most likely will get themselves a rb in the daft however I do not think that it will be McFadden.

Dallas is not in a rebuild mode... they have a proven system; they will spend one of those 2 1sts or wait till the 2nd to find MBIII's RBBC mate.

 

[supa mann]

I know it's fun to speculate and try to figure out what Jerry and the coaches are trying to accomplish, but I have a hard time thinking JJ doesn't get every bit as much satisfaction watching MBIII run the football as 99% of the Dallas fans out there. The team loves the guy and he really adds an attitude to that offense. I just can't see Dallas falling all over themselves to grab a McFadden unless he drops to affordable level. Dallas shipped out Julius and I think that is a sign that they want to run more with Barber and get him a cheap compliment.

I for one will be sadly dissapointed if Barber gets out of Big D.

 

[trollmonger]

Everything I have heard from Rosencash interview and from MBIII is that he wants to stay in Dallas long term, that is why he is negotiating a long term deal. He will be the feature back in Dallas. Why would he want to go somewhere else and learn a new offense? Very few teams have one guy that takes all the snaps anymore. I believe he will get at least 70% of the snaps no matter who they bring in.

Then why do I see Dallas either trading up, or staying put to draft a RB like every 9 out of 10 mock drafts? Does Dallas like burning a 1st rounder or do you think these mockers do not know their stuff all that much?

I don't understand these mocks either. I think it comes from RB being one of the Cowboys biggest needs. Couple that with the fact that there are 4 legit 1st round RBs and the Cowboys have two 1st round picks and everyone puts a RB down for the Cowboys in the 1st. But they don't need a stud, they need a compliment to MB3. The Cowboys will take a RB in the draft, maybe two but I doubt it will be in the 1st.

 

[brock]

dallas can easily wait til the 3rd to pick up some rb depth.

 

[The Royal Jack]

As far as a late round compliment, Cory Boyd out of South Carolina is definetly in the Barber mold. Hard nose runner with excellent hands and good speed.

I would be shocked if the Cowboys drafted a RB in the 1st. With as many as 5 RB's touted as 1st Round material and the NFL trend over the last few years of taking 1 or 2 RB's in the 1st, I think a lot of the RB talk is just hype to throw other teams off the trail. Dallas was looking at W. Dunn, so it appears they are looking for a compliment to Barber. I'd look for them to draft some RB's late and to maybe bring a veteran cap casualty into camp as insurance for Barber.

 

[switz]

Everything I have heard from Rosencash interview and from MBIII is that he wants to stay in Dallas long term, that is why he is negotiating a long term deal.

He will be the feature back in Dallas. Why would he want to go somewhere else and learn a new offense? Very few teams have one guy that takes all the snaps anymore. I believe he will get at least 70% of the snaps no matter who they bring in.

Right... because there's strong evidence to support that thinking The only people that think MBIII will be the primary, every down back, are MBIII owners. Everyone else knows that DAL wants a 2-back system, and that MBIII has never been the primary every down back yet.

 

[saintfool]

what's the chance that MBIII goes "soft" now that he's cashed in?

 

[BigTex]

what's the chance that MBIII goes "soft" now that he's cashed in?

He hasn't cashed in yet, but when that time comes I don't think he'll go soft.

 

[BigJim®]

I would be shocked if the Cowboys drafted a RB in the 1st.

I would not be shocked, but I think it would be a bad idea. The reality is of the "first round graded" RBs, only the consensus top 3 are legitimate workhorse RBs [iMHO]. With all due respect to the pundits, F.Jones and C.Johnson seem like they'd make great change-of-pace RBs at the next level, but I have a hard time envisioning either as a 20-25 carry ball carrier. If the Cowboys are looking for a change-of-pace RB to compliment Barber, they don't need one of those guys in the 1st. They could wait until the 3rd to draft a R.Rice, J.Charles, Forsett type guy. Unfortunately, when the team gave a cold shoulder to bringing in W.Dunn, that seemed telling to me. I can't imagine they are targetting any COP back who would compare favorably to Dunn in that role, even at his age. If they are looking for more than a change-of-pace, the real threat to Barber seems to be F.Jones. If they draft F.Jones in the 1st, Barber should probably do his one year under the restricted tag and look for his first opportunity out of Dallas as an alternative to signing some team-friendly deal to stay, certainly not one with a bunch of performance triggers. That is, assuming he wishes to be a primary ball carrier somewhere.

 

[simmonjm]

Many mock drafts have Dallas selecting a RB in the first round because they literally have no one to back up Marion Barber. As far as contract negotiations I believe the Cowboys are in no real hurry to sign him to a long term deal rather they will wait and have him prove himself as a feature back next year sort of like they did for Romo. This is strictly my opinion and I have no facts to support it.

 

[switz]

The reality is of the "first round graded" RBs, only the consensus top 3 are legitimate workhorse RBs [iMHO]. With all due respect to the pundits, F.Jones and C.Johnson seem like they'd make great change-of-pace RBs at the next level, but I have a hard time envisioning either as a 20-25 carry ball carrier.

Hey BigJim, I generally regard what you say as high quality. So I was surprised to read this from you. The top-3, I'm assuming, in your opinion are Stewart, Mendenhall, and McFadden. I don't see how you could think McFadden is more of a workhorse than Jones, as Jones is more solidly built, and is a tougher runner.

Unfortunately, when the team gave a cold shoulder to bringing in W.Dunn, that seemed telling to me. I can't imagine they are targetting any COP back who would compare favorably to Dunn in that role, even at his age. If they are looking for more than a change-of-pace, the real threat to Barber seems to be F.Jones. If they draft F.Jones in the 1st, Barber should probably do his one year under the restricted tag and look for his first opportunity out of Dallas as an alternative to signing some team-friendly deal to stay, certainly not one with a bunch of performance triggers. That is, assuming he wishes to be a primary ball carrier somewhere.

This is exactly what I'm seeing out of Dallas. While I hear, and to a degree believe, rumors that they want to move up to grab McFadden, I feel that their true target is Jones, and that Jerry thinks Felix is the game breaking back they need. Thing is the last few years what they've been lacking at the RB position is SPEED, which Jones has tons of. Barber is a really tough runner, but he's not a game breaker by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

This is exactly what I'm seeing out of Dallas. While I hear, and to a degree believe, rumors that they want to move up to grab McFadden, I feel that their true target is Jones, and that Jerry thinks Felix is the game breaking back they need. Thing is the last few years what they've been lacking at the RB position is SPEED, which Jones has tons of. Barber is a really tough runner, but he's not a game breaker by any stretch of the imagination.

Why is Felix Jones always the guy mentioned for the Cowboys? Why isn't Chris Johnson ever talked about? The position will not be lacking speed if they were to go after him.

 

[BigJim®]

This is exactly what I'm seeing out of Dallas. While I hear, and to a degree believe, rumors that they want to move up to grab McFadden, I feel that their true target is Jones, and that Jerry thinks Felix is the game breaking back they need. Thing is the last few years what they've been lacking at the RB position is SPEED, which Jones has tons of. Barber is a really tough runner, but he's not a game breaker by any stretch of the imagination.

Why is Felix Jones always the guy mentioned for the Cowboys? Why isn't Chris Johnson ever talked about? The position will not be lacking speed if they were to go after him.

If the Cowboys are looking for a COP to Barber, C.Johnson would be the guy. But would he ever elevate himself to primary RB? Seems to me there is more speculation regarding F.Jones because he could be a COP his first coupole years and grow into a primary RB role, perhaps.Switz, on you response to my assertion that only McFadden/Mendenhall/Stewart strike me as primary ball carriers, that opinion is only based on size, and college production. Felix's 6'0"/200 is undersized, IMHO, and he had only 133 carries in his whole 2007 season [17 carries once]. While McFadden may be built even more slightly at 6'2"/205, he did show he could handle 325 carries which distinguishes himself. That's a gaping difference. That said, as I mentioned in my 2nd paragraph, I would not rule out the Cowboys envisioning Jones as perhaps a primary ball carrier, if they opt to take him in the 1st vs. other possible COP RBs in the 2nd-4th rounds. I say that because it seems like the only reasonable justification for taking a RB in the 1st is to get a possible heir apparent, again IMHO. I just don't see a team justifying taking a change of pace RB in the 1st.

 

[switz]

This is exactly what I'm seeing out of Dallas. While I hear, and to a degree believe, rumors that they want to move up to grab McFadden, I feel that their true target is Jones, and that Jerry thinks Felix is the game breaking back they need. Thing is the last few years what they've been lacking at the RB position is SPEED, which Jones has tons of. Barber is a really tough runner, but he's not a game breaker by any stretch of the imagination.

Why is Felix Jones always the guy mentioned for the Cowboys? Why isn't Chris Johnson ever talked about? The position will not be lacking speed if they were to go after him.

If the Cowboys are looking for a COP to Barber, C.Johnson would be the guy. But would he ever elevate himself to primary RB? Seems to me there is more speculation regarding F.Jones because he could be a COP his first coupole years and grow into a primary RB role, perhaps.Switz, on you response to my assertion that only McFadden/Mendenhall/Stewart strike me as primary ball carriers, that opinion is only based on size, and college production. Felix's 6'0"/200 is undersized, IMHO, and he had only 133 carries in his whole 2007 season [17 carries once]. While McFadden may be built even more slightly at 6'2"/205, he did show he could handle 325 carries which distinguishes himself. That's a gaping difference. That said, as I mentioned in my 2nd paragraph, I would not rule out the Cowboys envisioning Jones as perhaps a primary ball carrier, if they opt to take him in the 1st vs. other possible COP RBs in the 2nd-4th rounds. I say that because it seems like the only reasonable justification for taking a RB in the 1st is to get a possible heir apparent, again IMHO. I just don't see a team justifying taking a change of pace RB in the 1st.

On the first bolded part - his actual is 5'10" 207Lbs per combine - very close to optimal every down RB build.On the second - there was an AWESOME article showing no correlation between # carries in college and success level in NFL. I don't think # of carries is a negative for Felix. I wish I had the link, but I know it's in one of the threads in the top-3 pages here on the board. Really good write up.

On the third - I saw that, and like I said I agree 100%.

Again, I totally respect your posts. Was just surprised by your thinking McFadden was more of an every down RB than Jones. I see why based on your comment. We just weight things a bit differently. Thanks for the reply!

BTW, here's an interesting point about Felix Jones:

If you were to look at the SEC record book for "most yards per carry, rushing" over the course of a career, the name you'd find is an impressive one: Bo Jackson, at 6.63 ypc. The SEC has set the arbitrary minimum number of carries over a career at 400.

Felix netted 2956 yards on an almost 400 - 386 carries (after 130 in losses) to post a career ypc average of 7.66, shattering Jackson's mark, but it will not be recognized because of the number of carries. This is a real injustice when you figure that if Felix simply dove into the line for no gain 14 times he would still average almost 7.4 yards per carry, shattering the mark! Or, said another way, Felix would have to LOSE 308 or more yards on those 14 carries to NOT break the record, a virtual impossibility.

Info pulled from his profile.

Name: *Felix Jones

College: Arkansas On Disk: #25

Height: 5-10 Weight: 207

Position: RB Pos2: KR

Class/Draft Year: Jr/2008

40 Time: 4.44 40 Low: 4.37 40 High: 4.53

Projected Round: 1-2

Jones ranks 41st nationally and fifth in the SEC in rushing with 93.08 yards per contest. That number plummeted after being injured on the Hogs’ first kickoff at Tennessee. He carried the ball just three times at UT and only saw action on one snap (one reception) vs. Miss. St. He returned at top-ranked LSU to rush for 85 yards on nine carries. Jones has 1,117 yards rushing on the season with 10 touchdowns while accounting for 149.33 all-purpose yards per game (1,792) to rank 22nd nationally. Jones’ 9.08 yards per carry average leads the country. He is averaging 2.37 yards per rush more than the second-best mark nationally, Air Force’s Chad Hall (6.71). Jones also leads the country in career yards per carry among active players with 7.74 per tote. - Arkansas Football...Full *Felix Jones Draft Profile

(someone here said you shouldn't be drafted as a feature back. Why do you say you should?)

"Because I'm a great running back. I have great vision. I have very good body

control. I make great moves. I'm also a kickoff return specialist. I have been

a feature back in high school. I never did have the a chance to be in college

because of me and Darren, but I believe I have the atributes

to be a great NFL running back."

(He said he measured 5-10, weighed 207).

His 3-cone drill & broad jump were in the top-25 over the past 8 years. He is one of the most explosive RBs in the past 8 years, as his 10-yard timing was #2 at the combine in the past 8 years.

 

[brock]

felix is too weak to be an every down back. felix, charles, johnson would all make great compliments to mb3.

 

[switz]

felix is too weak to be an every down back. felix, charles, johnson would all make great compliments to mb3.

Can I ask what you are basing that on?

 

[Mustang Man]

The reality is of the "first round graded" RBs, only the consensus top 3 are legitimate workhorse RBs [iMHO]. With all due respect to the pundits, F.Jones and C.Johnson seem like they'd make great change-of-pace RBs at the next level, but I have a hard time envisioning either as a 20-25 carry ball carrier.

Hey BigJim, I generally regard what you say as high quality. So I was surprised to read this from you. The top-3, I'm assuming, in your opinion are Stewart, Mendenhall, and McFadden. I don't see how you could think McFadden is more of a workhorse than Jones, as Jones is more solidly built, and is a tougher runner.

Unfortunately, when the team gave a cold shoulder to bringing in W.Dunn, that seemed telling to me. I can't imagine they are targetting any COP back who would compare favorably to Dunn in that role, even at his age. If they are looking for more than a change-of-pace, the real threat to Barber seems to be F.Jones. If they draft F.Jones in the 1st, Barber should probably do his one year under the restricted tag and look for his first opportunity out of Dallas as an alternative to signing some team-friendly deal to stay, certainly not one with a bunch of performance triggers. That is, assuming he wishes to be a primary ball carrier somewhere.

This is exactly what I'm seeing out of Dallas. While I hear, and to a degree believe, rumors that they want to move up to grab McFadden, I feel that their true target is Jones, and that Jerry thinks Felix is the game breaking back they need. Thing is the last few years what they've been lacking at the RB position is SPEED, which Jones has tons of. Barber is a really tough runner, but he's not a game breaker by any stretch of the imagination.

I think it will be Felix Jones. It makes sense this guy can fly and is the game breaker Dallas needs outa the back field. Barber and Felix is the deal. Maybe we will get the right Jones this time cause Julius was not it. Perfect fit!

 

[Mustang Man]

The reality is of the "first round graded" RBs, only the consensus top 3 are legitimate workhorse RBs [iMHO]. With all due respect to the pundits, F.Jones and C.Johnson seem like they'd make great change-of-pace RBs at the next level, but I have a hard time envisioning either as a 20-25 carry ball carrier.

Hey BigJim, I generally regard what you say as high quality. So I was surprised to read this from you. The top-3, I'm assuming, in your opinion are Stewart, Mendenhall, and McFadden. I don't see how you could think McFadden is more of a workhorse than Jones, as Jones is more solidly built, and is a tougher runner.

Unfortunately, when the team gave a cold shoulder to bringing in W.Dunn, that seemed telling to me. I can't imagine they are targetting any COP back who would compare favorably to Dunn in that role, even at his age. If they are looking for more than a change-of-pace, the real threat to Barber seems to be F.Jones. If they draft F.Jones in the 1st, Barber should probably do his one year under the restricted tag and look for his first opportunity out of Dallas as an alternative to signing some team-friendly deal to stay, certainly not one with a bunch of performance triggers. That is, assuming he wishes to be a primary ball carrier somewhere.

This is exactly what I'm seeing out of Dallas. While I hear, and to a degree believe, rumors that they want to move up to grab McFadden, I feel that their true target is Jones, and that Jerry thinks Felix is the game breaking back they need. Thing is the last few years what they've been lacking at the RB position is SPEED, which Jones has tons of. Barber is a really tough runner, but he's not a game breaker by any stretch of the imagination.

I think it will be Felix Jones. It makes sense this guy can fly and is the game breaker Dallas needs outa the back field. Barber and Felix is the deal. Maybe we will get the right Jones this time cause Julius was not it. Perfect fit!

O yeah Dallas will sign Barber to a long term deal also. Just watch and Damarcus Ware.

 

[Jedimaster21]

felix is too weak to be an every down back. felix, charles, johnson would all make great compliments to mb3.

This is one of my concerns about Felix. He only benched 225 8 times at the combine. He definitely has to work on his upper body strength. However, when you look at it more closely, lower body strength is much more important, and Jones would regularly squat 550 in high school, and has very big thighs for his size. He could work on his upper body in the NFL without losing any speed, putting his weight at closer to 215. That would make him almost the perfect size for a feature back.

 

[stubby]

I think Felix would be a good fit for the Cowboys. However, in my opinion (and this is just about opinions, right?), he doesn't warrant the #22 or #29 pick. Unfortunately, I also don't believe he'll be available when the Cowboys are set to draft in the second round. Therefore, I can see Dallas trading up in the first around the 14th position if McFadden HAPPENS (not saying he will) to drop that far, or trading one of their 1st round picks BACK into the early second, and picking up Jones there. They could also miss out on both RB's completely, stay at their current draft positions, and pick up a second tier RB in the end of the second round.