McClure's BBQ (2 Viewers)

[AcerFC]

My wife just told me she had a dream that we were eating at McClures. I say I'm there by the end of the year

 

[stbugs]

Artwork for the back >

Artwork for the Front > (added New Orleans, LA per tipsy's request)

K.I.S.S. IMO.... that on a nice quality soft/semi-fitted t shirt would be in my heavy rotation.

I don't want to be debbie downer or anything, but don't you think black font won't look as good on a black shirt? I know you are a t-shirt expert, so I defer to your judgement.

 

[Johnny Rock]

In for a shirt too.

 

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Artwork for the back >

Artwork for the Front > (added New Orleans, LA per tipsy's request)

K.I.S.S. IMO.... that on a nice quality soft/semi-fitted t shirt would be in my heavy rotation.

I don't want to be debbie downer or anything, but don't you think black font won't look as good on a black shirt? I know you are a t-shirt expert, so I defer to your judgement.

HOLY CRAP I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT!

Yeah that's just a positive/negative image. They will burn the screens and then print white ink on the black shirts.

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

yep...kill the LA. icon. Please.

Sold out again by 8 pm tonight. The articles today had 112 people in for dinner in 2 hours. And the pace was actually very easy.

 

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yep...kill the LA. icon. Please.

Sold out again by 8 pm tonight. The articles today had 112 people in for dinner in 2 hours. And the pace was actually very easy.

Long gone (see link Again)

Hell yah on another quick sellout. You offering free grub to the authors as thanks?

 

[Super King]

reposting about wanting a shirt

 

[Wingnut]

You know what would look cool is a tan colored shirt with black font...kinda like wood with the font burned/charred into it.

 

[NCCommish]

You know what would look cool is a tan colored shirt with black font...kinda like wood with the font burned/charred into it.

That is an interesting idea.

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

Smoker filled to capacity again. We are going through a ton of animal over here.

 

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Moving quickly on shirts guys. My goal is to have everything online for orders and on press next week. I promise the shirts will come. In the meantime, tipsy: keep dominating with the BBQ!

 

[NCCommish]

Moving quickly on shirts guys. My goal is to have everything online for orders and on press next week. I promise the shirts will come. In the meantime, tipsy: keep dominating with the BBQ!

I'm sure Tips has thanked you but thanks from us. I look forward to sporting my new T.

 

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Smoker filled to capacity again. We are going through a ton of animal over here.

Is there such a thing as a meat boner?

If so I have one.

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

Where is my money Icon. My wife keeps asking me about the t-shirt monies.....

 

[BigJohn]

Smoker filled to capacity again. We are going through a ton of animal over here.

Are you eventually going to upgrade your Lang? Or, are you still considering going the brick pit route?

 

[The Z Machine]

So cool, Tips. I'm stoked for you. Keep at it, bro.

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

Smoker filled to capacity again. We are going through a ton of animal over here.

Are you eventually going to upgrade your Lang? Or, are you still considering going the brick pit route?

This is Lang 2.0. It is their 108" version. I also still have the 84" on a trailer. I cannot sell more meat from this location in one day than those two can handle. I will only use the trailer at the restaurant if absolutely necessary...smoking on the sidewalk isn't ideal

 

[James Bond]

Any chance the shirts will be available by Labor Day? I will be down there right around then.

 

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Where is my money Icon. My wife keeps asking me about the t-shirt monies.....

Tied up in wheatback penny escrow. PM Dodds.

 

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Smoker filled to capacity again. We are going through a ton of animal over here.

Are you eventually going to upgrade your Lang? Or, are you still considering going the brick pit route?

This is Lang 2.0. It is their 108" version. I also still have the 84" on a trailer. I cannot sell more meat from this location in one day than those two can handle. I will only use the trailer at the restaurant if absolutely necessary...smoking on the sidewalk isn't ideal

If only everyone knew how ####### big these smokers are. Lil' Lang is the "Small" smoker at 84 and that thing was a ####### beast at Memphis in May 2 years ago. I can't even imagine the 108... then imagining the amount of meat it would take to fill them both to capacity. You are talking about feeding a small army between those two pits.

 

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Any chance the shirts will be available by Labor Day? I will be down there right around then.

I think that's very feasable. Heard back this AM and they're aware that tipsy is parading through 250+ potential shirt buyers every day. Sooner these are on his shelves (and online), the better. Generally shirts are a one week process assuming ordering (in stock) and screen press time is available (They will move stuff around for us). Just gotta nail down pricing and base shirt.

They've gotten shirts online in as little as 2-3 days in the past for another buddy of mine (taking orders while setting up and printing).

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Where is my money Icon. My wife keeps asking me about the t-shirt monies.....

In for a shirt.

ETA: This is a perfect example of why the innnernet and this site is a wonderful thing.

 

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Proofs for shirts are in.

1) Yes, They have the new art with "New Orleans" only

2) They suggested two lines of copy on the back. I don't disagree and neil likes it.... HOWEVER I want to tighten up the leading a bit (space between lines) and move it down a touch.

3) I think Tipsy wanted more of a Hunter Green vs the brighter Kelly Green. Depending on the shirt type will dictate our color options. Tri-Blend are the #### but they don't offer a green. Price point with Tri Blend will likely be ~$25 and one step down (still a very soft nice shirt) will be ~$20 online. Getting both priced out.

They will handle all website, inventory management, fulfillment, returns, customer complaints, etc on web orders. Neil will just collect a report and check each month. Neil, you'll also get marketing data on customers (names, addresses,emails) if you wanna use that stuff.

These guys are the "do it right" types. Sure you can get shirts for $8 all day but they're on ####ty shirts you'll never wear and the white is a "single hit" (one pass) so it's not very bright. They will be "triple hitting" the white (3 layers of white ink) so it looks good and lasts. No, it won't feel all thick and heavy.

Tipsy, I should have pricing for both bulk (in store) orders as well as online printing/shipping/fulfillment by monday. Kill it this weekend,GB.

 

[Henry Ford]

Proofs for shirts are in.

1) Yes, They have the new art with "New Orleans" only

2) They suggested two lines of copy on the back. I don't disagree and neil likes it.... HOWEVER I want to tighten up the leading a bit (space between lines) and move it down a touch.

3) I think Tipsy wanted more of a Hunter Green vs the brighter Kelly Green. Depending on the shirt type will dictate our color options. Tri-Blend are the #### but they don't offer a green. Price point with Tri Blend will likely be ~$25 and one step down (still a very soft nice shirt) will be ~$20 online. Getting both priced out.

They will handle all website, inventory management, fulfillment, returns, customer complaints, etc on web orders. Neil will just collect a report and check each month. Neil, you'll also get marketing data on customers (names, addresses,emails) if you wanna use that stuff.

These guys are the "do it right" types. Sure you can get shirts for $8 all day but they're on ####ty shirts you'll never wear and the white is a "single hit" (one pass) so it's not very bright. They will be "triple hitting" the white (3 layers of white ink) so it looks good and lasts. No, it won't feel all thick and heavy.

Tipsy, I should have pricing for both bulk (in store) orders as well as online printing/shipping/fulfillment by monday. Kill it this weekend,GB.

Is there a reason the line break in the back isn't:

"You don't win friends

with salad"

as opposed to

"You don't win

friends with salad"

 

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Proofs for shirts are in.

1) Yes, They have the new art with "New Orleans" only

2) They suggested two lines of copy on the back. I don't disagree and neil likes it.... HOWEVER I want to tighten up the leading a bit (space between lines) and move it down a touch.

3) I think Tipsy wanted more of a Hunter Green vs the brighter Kelly Green. Depending on the shirt type will dictate our color options. Tri-Blend are the #### but they don't offer a green. Price point with Tri Blend will likely be ~$25 and one step down (still a very soft nice shirt) will be ~$20 online. Getting both priced out.

They will handle all website, inventory management, fulfillment, returns, customer complaints, etc on web orders. Neil will just collect a report and check each month. Neil, you'll also get marketing data on customers (names, addresses,emails) if you wanna use that stuff.

These guys are the "do it right" types. Sure you can get shirts for $8 all day but they're on ####ty shirts you'll never wear and the white is a "single hit" (one pass) so it's not very bright. They will be "triple hitting" the white (3 layers of white ink) so it looks good and lasts. No, it won't feel all thick and heavy.

Tipsy, I should have pricing for both bulk (in store) orders as well as online printing/shipping/fulfillment by monday. Kill it this weekend,GB.

Is there a reason the line break in the back isn't:

"You don't win friends

with salad"

as opposed to

"You don't win

friends with salad"

Because the male form is an inverted triangle and you generally run a wider line on the top and a narrower line on the bottom.

Unless you're a fatass and your gut is wider than your shoulders... then a shorter top line and a wider bottom line looks better.

Seriously though, they set it that way and I tend to agree.

 

[Henry Ford]

Proofs for shirts are in.

1) Yes, They have the new art with "New Orleans" only

2) They suggested two lines of copy on the back. I don't disagree and neil likes it.... HOWEVER I want to tighten up the leading a bit (space between lines) and move it down a touch.

3) I think Tipsy wanted more of a Hunter Green vs the brighter Kelly Green. Depending on the shirt type will dictate our color options. Tri-Blend are the #### but they don't offer a green. Price point with Tri Blend will likely be ~$25 and one step down (still a very soft nice shirt) will be ~$20 online. Getting both priced out.

They will handle all website, inventory management, fulfillment, returns, customer complaints, etc on web orders. Neil will just collect a report and check each month. Neil, you'll also get marketing data on customers (names, addresses,emails) if you wanna use that stuff.

These guys are the "do it right" types. Sure you can get shirts for $8 all day but they're on ####ty shirts you'll never wear and the white is a "single hit" (one pass) so it's not very bright. They will be "triple hitting" the white (3 layers of white ink) so it looks good and lasts. No, it won't feel all thick and heavy.

Tipsy, I should have pricing for both bulk (in store) orders as well as online printing/shipping/fulfillment by monday. Kill it this weekend,GB.

Is there a reason the line break in the back isn't:

"You don't win friends

with salad"

as opposed to

"You don't win

friends with salad"

Because the male form is an inverted triangle and you generally run a wider line on the top and a narrower line on the bottom.

Unless you're a fatass and your gut is wider than your shoulders... then a shorter top line and a wider bottom line looks better.

Seriously though, they set it that way and I tend to agree.

Well, there's no need to get personal.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

I'm just a fake lawyer, but do any of the real lawyers here see an issue with selling a T-shirt using a quote from the Simpsons? Woz told me that would violate the Erie Doctrine or something.

 

[Fennis]

Proofs for shirts are in.

1) Yes, They have the new art with "New Orleans" only

2) They suggested two lines of copy on the back. I don't disagree and neil likes it.... HOWEVER I want to tighten up the leading a bit (space between lines) and move it down a touch.

3) I think Tipsy wanted more of a Hunter Green vs the brighter Kelly Green. Depending on the shirt type will dictate our color options. Tri-Blend are the #### but they don't offer a green. Price point with Tri Blend will likely be ~$25 and one step down (still a very soft nice shirt) will be ~$20 online. Getting both priced out.

They will handle all website, inventory management, fulfillment, returns, customer complaints, etc on web orders. Neil will just collect a report and check each month. Neil, you'll also get marketing data on customers (names, addresses,emails) if you wanna use that stuff.

These guys are the "do it right" types. Sure you can get shirts for $8 all day but they're on ####ty shirts you'll never wear and the white is a "single hit" (one pass) so it's not very bright. They will be "triple hitting" the white (3 layers of white ink) so it looks good and lasts. No, it won't feel all thick and heavy.

Tipsy, I should have pricing for both bulk (in store) orders as well as online printing/shipping/fulfillment by monday. Kill it this weekend,GB.

Is there a reason the line break in the back isn't:

"You don't win friends

with salad"

as opposed to

"You don't win

friends with salad"

I just showed it to a work colleague and he read it as two separate sentences:

You don't win.

Friends with salad.

And had no idea what that meant.

Maybe the problem is the capitalization of every word.

 

[Henry Ford]

I'm just a fake lawyer, but do any of the real lawyers here see an issue with selling a T-shirt using a quote from the Simpsons? Woz told me that would violate the Erie Doctrine or something.

That is an interesting question.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

I'm just a fake lawyer, but do any of the real lawyers here see an issue with selling a T-shirt using a quote from the Simpsons? Woz told me that would violate the Erie Doctrine or something.

I'm trying not to screw up this thread, but yes.

In particular, I see an issue with a blatant statement in a message board thread that the person selling the shirt took the quote straight from the Simpsons.

Some googling reveals that companies got sued for making baby clothes that said "Nobody Puts Baby in a Corner" back in 2007. I don't know if the production company behind the Simpsons are that litigious or if they would care.

 

[Fennis]

I'm just a fake lawyer, but do any of the real lawyers here see an issue with selling a T-shirt using a quote from the Simpsons? Woz told me that would violate the Erie Doctrine or something.

I'm trying not to screw up this thread, but yes.

In particular, I see an issue with a blatant statement in a message board thread that the person selling the shirt took the quote straight from the Simpsons.

Some googling reveals that companies got sued for making baby clothes that said "Nobody Puts Baby in a Corner" back in 2007. I don't know if the production company behind the Simpsons are that litigious or if they would care.

That was the most blatant case of fraudulent advertising since the suit against the film, “The Never-Ending Story.”

 

[Henry Ford]

I'm just a fake lawyer, but do any of the real lawyers here see an issue with selling a T-shirt using a quote from the Simpsons? Woz told me that would violate the Erie Doctrine or something.

That is an interesting question.

Some googling reveals that companies got sued for making baby clothes that said "Nobody Puts Baby in a Corner" back in 2007. I don't know if the production company behind the Simpsons are that litigious or if they would care.

Huh.

 

[Fennis]

I'm just a fake lawyer, but do any of the real lawyers here see an issue with selling a T-shirt using a quote from the Simpsons? Woz told me that would violate the Erie Doctrine or something.

I'm trying not to screw up this thread, but yes.

In particular, I see an issue with a blatant statement in a message board thread that the person selling the shirt took the quote straight from the Simpsons.

Some googling reveals that companies got sued for making baby clothes that said "Nobody Puts Baby in a Corner" back in 2007. I don't know if the production company behind the Simpsons are that litigious or if they would care.

Without giving any legal advice, I certainly wouldn't hinge the future of my business on hoping that a powerful corporation doesn't find me significant enough to sue over copyright infringement in my slogan. Yet.

would you hinge the future of a t-shirt order?

 

[Henry Ford]

I think

YOU DON'T WIN FRIENDS

WITH SALAD

is definitely the way to go

 

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Because the male form is an inverted triangle and you generally run a wider line on the top and a narrower line on the bottom.

Unless you're a fatass and your gut is wider than your shoulders... then a shorter top line and a wider bottom line looks better.


Seriously though, they set it that way and I tend to agree.

Well, there's no need to get personal.

Sorry I dind't mean you're as in you specifically. My bad. Wasn't intended to be inflammatory.. more of a generalized joke.

 

[Henry Ford]

I'm just a fake lawyer, but do any of the real lawyers here see an issue with selling a T-shirt using a quote from the Simpsons? Woz told me that would violate the Erie Doctrine or something.

That is an interesting question..

Some googling reveals that companies got sued for making baby clothes that said "Nobody Puts Baby in a Corner" back in 2007. I don't know if the production company behind the Simpsons are that litigious or if they would care.

Huh.

would you hinge the future of a t-shirt order?

I don't know what this is asking.

 

[Henry Ford]

Because the male form is an inverted triangle and you generally run a wider line on the top and a narrower line on the bottom.

Unless you're a fatass and your gut is wider than your shoulders... then a shorter top line and a wider bottom line looks better.


Seriously though, they set it that way and I tend to agree.

Well, there's no need to get personal.

Sorry I dind't mean you're as in you specifically. My bad. Wasn't intended to be inflammatory.. more of a generalized joke.

I was kidding.

 

[Sebowski]

Proofs for shirts are in.

1) Yes, They have the new art with "New Orleans" only

2) They suggested two lines of copy on the back. I don't disagree and neil likes it.... HOWEVER I want to tighten up the leading a bit (space between lines) and move it down a touch.

3) I think Tipsy wanted more of a Hunter Green vs the brighter Kelly Green. Depending on the shirt type will dictate our color options. Tri-Blend are the #### but they don't offer a green. Price point with Tri Blend will likely be ~$25 and one step down (still a very soft nice shirt) will be ~$20 online. Getting both priced out.

They will handle all website, inventory management, fulfillment, returns, customer complaints, etc on web orders. Neil will just collect a report and check each month. Neil, you'll also get marketing data on customers (names, addresses,emails) if you wanna use that stuff.

These guys are the "do it right" types. Sure you can get shirts for $8 all day but they're on ####ty shirts you'll never wear and the white is a "single hit" (one pass) so it's not very bright. They will be "triple hitting" the white (3 layers of white ink) so it looks good and lasts. No, it won't feel all thick and heavy.

Tipsy, I should have pricing for both bulk (in store) orders as well as online printing/shipping/fulfillment by monday. Kill it this weekend,GB.

Is there a reason the line break in the back isn't:

"You don't win friends

with salad"

as opposed to

"You don't win

friends with salad"

I just showed it to a work colleague and he read it as two separate sentences:

You don't win.

Friends with salad.

And had no idea what that meant.

Maybe the problem is the capitalization of every word.

I agree with this. Reads better as:

You don't win friends

with salad

 

[Henry Ford]

I sure hope it rains this weekend. My plants could use it.

 

[Fennis]

I'm just a fake lawyer, but do any of the real lawyers here see an issue with selling a T-shirt using a quote from the Simpsons? Woz told me that would violate the Erie Doctrine or something.

I'm trying not to screw up this thread, but yes.

In particular, I see an issue with a blatant statement in a message board thread that the person selling the shirt took the quote straight from the Simpsons.

Some googling reveals that companies got sued for making baby clothes that said "Nobody Puts Baby in a Corner" back in 2007. I don't know if the production company behind the Simpsons are that litigious or if they would care.

Without giving any legal advice, I certainly wouldn't hinge the future of my business on hoping that a powerful corporation doesn't find me significant enough to sue over copyright infringement in my slogan. Yet.

would you hinge the future of a t-shirt order?

I don't know what this is asking.

ETA: misread what you said

 

[ncc2]

I'm just a fake lawyer, but do any of the real lawyers here see an issue with selling a T-shirt using a quote from the Simpsons? Woz told me that would violate the Erie Doctrine or something.

I'm trying not to screw up this thread, but yes.

In particular, I see an issue with a blatant statement in a message board thread that the person selling the shirt took the quote straight from the Simpsons.

Some googling reveals that companies got sued for making baby clothes that said "Nobody Puts Baby in a Corner" back in 2007. I don't know if the production company behind the Simpsons are that litigious or if they would care.

Without giving any legal advice, I certainly wouldn't hinge the future of my business on hoping that a powerful corporation doesn't find me significant enough to sue over copyright infringement in my slogan. Yet.

I wonder if these folks licensed up - shirt

 

[otello]

Proofs for shirts are in.

1) Yes, They have the new art with "New Orleans" only

2) They suggested two lines of copy on the back. I don't disagree and neil likes it.... HOWEVER I want to tighten up the leading a bit (space between lines) and move it down a touch.

3) I think Tipsy wanted more of a Hunter Green vs the brighter Kelly Green. Depending on the shirt type will dictate our color options. Tri-Blend are the #### but they don't offer a green. Price point with Tri Blend will likely be ~$25 and one step down (still a very soft nice shirt) will be ~$20 online. Getting both priced out.

They will handle all website, inventory management, fulfillment, returns, customer complaints, etc on web orders. Neil will just collect a report and check each month. Neil, you'll also get marketing data on customers (names, addresses,emails) if you wanna use that stuff.

These guys are the "do it right" types. Sure you can get shirts for $8 all day but they're on ####ty shirts you'll never wear and the white is a "single hit" (one pass) so it's not very bright. They will be "triple hitting" the white (3 layers of white ink) so it looks good and lasts. No, it won't feel all thick and heavy.

Tipsy, I should have pricing for both bulk (in store) orders as well as online printing/shipping/fulfillment by monday. Kill it this weekend,GB.

Is there a reason the line break in the back isn't:

"You don't win friends

with salad"

as opposed to

"You don't win

friends with salad"

I just showed it to a work colleague and he read it as two separate sentences:

You don't win.

Friends with salad.

And had no idea what that meant.

Maybe the problem is the capitalization of every word.

I agree with this. Reads better as:

You don't win friends

with salad

I made a similar point earlier. I would even add a period at the end, if you go the sentence route, as opposed to a headline. In either case, you do not capitalize the w in with.

 

[Henry Ford]

There are certainly hundreds of t-shirt printers which sell shirts that are likely major copyright and trademark infringements and get away with it for a very long time. The question of what constitutes copyright or trademark infringement is a complicated question. Again, not trying to screw up this thread. Someone asked a question.

 

[otello]

I would also put a TM on the logo. You will TM formally later, but you should plant the flag now.

 

[Henry Ford]

I'm just a fake lawyer, but do any of the real lawyers here see an issue with selling a T-shirt using a quote from the Simpsons? Woz told me that would violate the Erie Doctrine or something.

That is an interesting question.

Some googling reveals that companies got sued for making baby clothes that said "Nobody Puts Baby in a Corner" back in 2007. I don't know if the production company behind the Simpsons are that litigious or if they would care.

Huh.

I wonder if these folks licensed up - shirt

Probably didn't license the "Avengers" shirt also on that page.

 

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I would also put a TM on the logo. You will TM formally later, but you should plant the flag now.

This was also part of my feedback to the vendor. Agreed.

 

[ncc2]

I wasn't busting chops I was wondering about the licensing thing. I thought I'd see if Fox was already doing something with the phrase or not and those folks were the first result I got.

 

[Henry Ford]

I would also put a TM on the logo. You will TM formally later, but you should plant the flag now.

This was also part of my feedback to the vendor. Agreed.

There's a certain amount of irony in this.

 

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Since Lawyers in here are giving design advice, I'll break out my inner attorney.

IMO there are no concerns with an obscure line from a 20yo episode of Simpsons. If they went after every phrase that was uttered on the 530 EPISODES of that show that ended up on a Tshirt I'd be ridiculous.

A large portion of the legibility issue is the massive gap in leading (line spacing).

Revised (not final) art >

 

[Henry Ford]

Since Lawyers in here are giving design advice, I'll break out my inner attorney.

IMO there are no concerns with an obscure line from a 20yo episode of Simpsons. If they went after every phrase that was uttered on the 530 EPISODES of that show that ended up on a Tshirt I'd be ridiculous.

A large portion of the legibility issue is the massive gap in leading (line spacing).

Revised art >

Okay.

I like the art. Pulling for everyone involved.