prefontaine said:
Doctor Detroit said:
redman said:
Doctor Detroit said:
jurb26 said:
Wow! Clev gave up too much IMO. 2nd rounder this year and 1st next year.
They were considering him at #3. To me it was a no brainer for them.
Agreed. This is where people need to put down the draft chart. He represents huge value there, particularly for a team that already nabbed an elite OL prospect in this draft. Nobody will care what was traded if he pans out.
Yeah. Look at it this way, if Cleveland had the #3 and the #4 picks who would have they taken? They probably got two of their top four players on their board. Dallas made out too but to me Cleveland made a great move getting exactly who they wanted. Think about what Atlanta gave up for Michael Vick. Or what the Giants gave up for Manning. Bold and smart move by the Browns.
Not sure if that was sarcasm or not. Just because other people are stupid doesn't mean you have to be too. Quite obviously, in both cases, SD made out in those trades. Just like Dallas did here.
Didn't the Browns give up considerably less then the Giants and Falcons did?
Hmmm....maybeThe Falcons traded their first round pick, the fifth selection in the draft, along with their third round pick in 2001, a second round pick in 2002 and little used Wide Receiver Tim Dwight, who did have some significant impact returning kicks, to the Chargers for the number one pick.
Manning to his chosen team, the Giants, in exchange for quarterback Philip Rivers (taken with the fourth pick by New York), a third-round pick in 2004 and the Giants' first and fifth choices in 2005.
If Cleveland gave up a top 10 pick - which seems likely - it seems fairly compareable to the Falcons trade. The Giants got raped worse but the different to me is the 2005 first was a lot less likely to be a good pick. If you look at it just from the standpoint of a move up and then +
Falcons move up and give a 3rd this year and a 2nd next year plus Tim Dwight
Giants move up and give a 3rd this year and a 1st and 5th next year
Browns move up and give up a 1st next year
and a third this year