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:MERGED: *** Official T.O. thread *** (2 Viewers)

Who is the starting QB for the Cowboy's this season :confused:
You're a fantasy football player, and you (1) don't know who the Dallas QB is and (2) don't know how to find out without asking here?Don Meredith
I am assuming Bledsoe, and I am lazy. ;)
What, you didn't believe me, lazy? :P Yeah, it'll be Bledsoe.But you can't trust any answers you get here, so maybe it'll be Drew Brees.
Couch potato (and the cat) calling out someone for being lazy :P

 
Just heard another confirmation on Cold Pizza that TO signed a 3 year deal to be announced this weekend. As far as playing the Cowboys next year, I hope the Eagles double/triple cover him. I dont care how many TD's Glenn scores and I hope we win those games but I'll be happy as long as TO gets no TDs and few catches.

 
Anyone else find it hilarious that FBG is the one posting "rumors" from "sources" and PFT is refuting them?
Diesel, do you have a link where FBG is reporting a rumor? I checked the web page and didn't find anything. Clearly Joe B shared a rumor with us, but it was on a message board. Personally, I don't think you are comparing apples to apples.

 
Chiming in here as an Eagles fan...I hate to see Owens leave he is a great player. It amazes me how fast Owens became an Icon in this city and to see all of it crumble to the ground after one full season. If the rumors are true (which I believe are) Owens will make the Cowboys Offense very potent. It also will make the Eagles/Boys' rivalry that much better..unfortunately i feel the eagles are in a semi rebuilding stage where the Boy's appear to be peaking...Owens is a cancer and eventually will sting whatever team he goes to. I'm so glad we got Jabbar Gaffney

:rolleyes:

 
Who is the starting QB for the Cowboy's this season :confused:
You're a fantasy football player, and you (1) don't know who the Dallas QB is and (2) don't know how to find out without asking here?Don Meredith
I am assuming Bledsoe, and I am lazy. ;)
What, you didn't believe me, lazy? :P Yeah, it'll be Bledsoe.But you can't trust any answers you get here, so maybe it'll be Drew Brees.
Couch potato (and the cat) calling out someone for being lazy :P
:D Pretty ironic, huh?He knew I was messing with him. He's in one of my leagues.

 
Anyone else find it hilarious that FBG is the one posting "rumors" from "sources" and PFT is refuting them?
Diesel, do you have a link where FBG is reporting a rumor? I checked the web page and didn't find anything. Clearly Joe B shared a rumor with us, but it was on a message board. Personally, I don't think you are comparing apples to apples.
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Terrell Owens will be the top WR in the NFL in 2006 with Dallas. His numbers will look something like this...

95-105 catches

1350-1450 yards

16-18 touchdowns

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Way too many TD's in my opinion. 11-14 imoOT-I am bumping Julius Jones a few slots as well. Opposing D's will not be able to stack the box anymore and just play the run.
Exactly. I think the two biggest beneficiaries of the addition of TO in Dallas would be Witten and Jones, with Bledsoe a close 3rd.
Nice calls on Jones, Bledsoe and Witten :thumbup: We've bumped all three up into the top 10 positional rankings for 2006, after having all three outside the top 10 pre-Owens.

Back TO Owens, Parcells will ride his stud horse and ride him hard...he'll have Owens so busy running patterns and catching balls that TO won't have time to do much talking. We are believing Owens numbers his first year in Dallas will better his numbers from his first year in Philly. And Owens averaged a touchdown a game in Philly...
I'll say, just under his protection in Philly especially on TD's. TO was the only threat as a receiver in Philly. Dallas has more weapons, than Philly from a few years ago...imo.I still expect the Cowboys to play relatively conservative with Bill taking the odd calculated gamble. Bump Julius and thank me later.

 
T.O. will be the game breaker that Dallas needs. If he plays all 16 games I would project:

1250 and 18 t.d.

I don't agree with the thinking T.O. helps Jones, I question if Jones will even get the carries on the goal line, and T.O. will be taking some of those goal line scores.

Glenn about 1050 6 T.D.'s

They guy that moves up the charts is Bledsoe :D

 
T.O. will be the game breaker that Dallas needs. If he plays all 16 games I would project:

1250 and 18 t.d.

I don't agree with the thinking T.O. helps Jones, I question if Jones will even get the carries on the goal line, and T.O. will be taking some of those goal line scores.

Glenn about 1050 6 T.D.'s

They guy that moves up the charts is Bledsoe :D
I respect your opinion.....but this just doesn't fit Parcells MO.JJ is the beneficiary. Less guys stacking the box. WR/Witten stretching the Lb's up the field.

Play action becomes effective again...this has been lacking in Dallas.

The draw play and mis-direction plays will pay big dividends this year. Again imo.

 
This just in reports of denials being bogus may be bogus!!

:lmao:
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Dallas is also denying the rumors...

Updating an earlier report, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports the Dallas Cowboys have also denied a report that the team has reached an agreement with free agent WR Terrell Owens (Eagles). Cowboys spokesman Rich Dalrymple said the team has nothing planned.

 
T.O. will be the game breaker that Dallas needs.  If he plays all 16 games I would project:

1250 and 18 t.d.

I don't agree with the thinking T.O. helps Jones, I question if Jones will even get the carries on the goal line, and T.O. will be taking some of those goal line scores.

Glenn about 1050 6 T.D.'s

They guy that moves up the charts is Bledsoe :D
I respect your opinion.....but this just doesn't fit Parcells MO.JJ is the beneficiary. Less guys stacking the box. WR/Witten stretching the Lb's up the field.

Play action becomes effective again...this has been lacking in Dallas.

The draw play and mis-direction plays will pay big dividends this year. Again imo.
Parcells MO is and has always been play to his teams strengths. Despite the misconception by some that still lies out there indicating his clubs are strictly a running team on offense.Just look at the '98 Jets team as an example.

Keyshawn Johnson had 83 catches for 1131 yards and 10 touchdowns....Wayne Chrebet had 75 catches for 1083 yards and 8 touchdowns...Curtis Martin carried the rock 369 times for 1287 yards and 8 touchdowns...Vinny Testaverde had 421 attempts for 3256 yards 29 touchdowns and 7 interceptions in 14 games in '98. You could also refer to his Patroit teams with Curtis, Bledsoe, Glenn and Coates.

Now nobody will confuse Keyshawn and Chrebet with Owens and Glenn when it comes to gaining separation from defensive backs. Parcells will definitely play to that strength and get the ball out to those guys because they will be open. Yes it will without a doubt open up underneath for the RB Jones and Witten will draw almost exclusive single coverage on every play. But Owens and Glenn will still get theirs. They can only double one of them in man and either receiver can outrun the zone or find the holes in it.

This will be a very scary offense for the rest of the league when all is said and done with free agency (O-Line) and the draft (O-Line). Don't forget that with the Jets Parcells went 4 wide often and basically had what most would perceive as a passing offense. 29 touchdowns from Vinny in 14 games shows Parcells isn't afraid to sling the ball if he feels it's his team's strength. And Keyshawn, Chrebet and Kyle Brady are not Owens, Glenn and Witten. Even Kyle Brady had 5 touchdowns and 6 catches of 20 yards or more on that Jets team. If Parcells can get those kind of numbers out of that group, it's scary to think of the production this group will have in 2006.

I still say upgrade both the Dallas passing and running game numbers wise...good discussion :thumbup:
Totally 100% agree that Parcells plays to his strengths. The twist or difference for me is that the strength for the Dallas Owill be the run game, which at this point in not overly apparent. I realize this might be unconventional thinking and not a widely held opinion by the masses. Which is :thumbup: fine by me.

Nice summary!!

 
Dallas is also denying the rumors...

Updating an earlier report, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports the Dallas Cowboys have also denied a report that the team has reached an agreement with free agent WR Terrell Owens (Eagles). Cowboys spokesman Rich Dalrymple said the team has nothing planned.
I went to high school with Rich. Maybe I should give him a call (I'd never get through though).
 
T.O. will be the game breaker that Dallas needs. If he plays all 16 games I would project:

1250 and 18 t.d.

I don't agree with the thinking T.O. helps Jones, I question if Jones will even get the carries on the goal line, and T.O. will be taking some of those goal line scores.

Glenn about 1050 6 T.D.'s

They guy that moves up the charts is Bledsoe :D
If TO plays 16 games he is going to average more than 80 yards a game.I also think the TD numbers are slightly high, but if Bledsoe gets any type of protection they aren't out of reach given the way he can throw the deep ball.

I will say 15 games played, 88 catches, 1425 yards, 14 TD's good for WR 1-3 and certainly should be taken in that range. Guaranteed production.............unless he gets suspended of course.

 
I think that Parcells could control Owens. Hell, he was able to mostly shut up MeShawn and Mrs Terry Glenn at the same time. One thing is for certain, though: Bledsoe will be a hot commodity again in fantasy drafts. Between Garcia and McNabb, it's quite obvious to me that Owens makes the QB's that throw to him a lot better.

 
If TO becomes a Cowboy... that poor SOB is gonna have to roll into the Linc in one of those Pope-mobiles for that first Cowboys home game. It's gonna be an ugly scene man.

 
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THAT'S RIGHT BABY!!!Eagles Super Bowls

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I was going to argue with you, but then I noticed your handle. :lmao: Why that name, JasonGarrett17 was taken?
Dude, your avatar is effing scary...
Yours is scarier. :yucky: His name is Brian Peppers.

Dare you to google him.
The dude is a sex offender, i know you are going for shock value but none the less it doesn't seem like the sort of thing you should be proud to have as an avatar..now, back to the TO saga
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If TO becomes a Cowboy... that poor SOB is gonna have to roll into the Linc in one of those Pope-mobiles for that first Cowboys home game. It's gonna be an ugly scene man.
Doubtful. Most fans are smart enough to realize that he's a better receiver than Patrick Crayton.
 
As reported by the Dallas Morning News. Official announcement/press conference expected in the next couple days.

 
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THAT'S RIGHT BABY!!!Eagles Super Bowls

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I was going to argue with you, but then I noticed your handle. :lmao: Why that name, JasonGarrett17 was taken?
Dude, your avatar is effing scary...
Yours is scarier. :yucky: His name is Brian Peppers.

Dare you to google him.
The dude is a sex offender, i know you are going for shock value but none the less it doesn't seem like the sort of thing you should be proud to have as an avatar..now, back to the TO saga
:rolleyes: Lighten up Francis.

 
Embarrassed to be a Cowboy fan right now.

This is to my Cowboy bretheren...

Do you guys honestly understand what you're so happy about right now? He's going to have a nice year next year, no doubt. It's the following year and the seasons that follow that that I'm worried about. Have you lost your minds about this guy? Have you forgotten--nevermind forgiven--so quickly? He's nothing but a cancer. Everywhere he's been. Even where he hasn't been (see Baltimore). He's a mess.

IMO, we take our lumps and grudgingly accept this ingrate onto our team. As fans, we really have no choice. But, just understand this: He will ruin us in the end. It's that simple. We have enough data points to understand this. And, unless we make/win the SB next year (which we won't), this is a terrible signing that will come back to haunt us.

Please stop embarrasing yourselves with all the high-fiving here. This is nothing to celebrate.

 
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This from a 47 year old Cowboy fan for life.

The Cowboys have made it significantly harder to cheer for them.

The jerk that desecrated the star is now wearing one.

I for one think that if this is the case, the Cowboys need to take the star off the side of the helmets. He doesn't deserve to wear one.

wattawhip

 
This from a 47 year old Cowboy fan for life.

The Cowboys have made it significantly harder to cheer for them.

The jerk that desecrated the star is now wearing one.

I for one think that if this is the case, the Cowboys need to take the star off the side of the helmets. He doesn't deserve to wear one.

wattawhip
:goodposting: Not a big fan of this signing either. He is what he is. Not really surprised, but....grrrr. Still, don't know anything but to be a Cowboys fan. Here's to hoping it's a team-friendly contract that gets the 'Boys off cheap when the REAL TO shows up.-fe

 
-- Cowboys; T.O. Agree to Contract in Principle --Fri Mar 17, 2006 --from FFMastermind.com#The Dallas Morning News reports the Cowboys have reached an agreement in principle with star WR Terrell Owens, two sources said Friday night. The sources said a formal announcement regarding the free-agent receiver is expected in the next few days. The sources also said Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and HC Bill Parcells are scheduled to return to Dallas today.
More reports have T.O. headed to DallasJay Glazer / FOXSports.comPosted: 5 hours ago Even in free agency, Terrell Owens' situation continues to be somewhat of a saga.A source close to Owens told FOXSports.com that the receiver has agreed to a three-year deal with the Cowboys — a deal that likely won't be announced until the weekend in order for owner Jerry Jones to be available in Dallas to properly make the announcement.A report posted on the Dallas Morning News' Web site Friday night said sources close to the situation have confirmed a deal to bring Owens to Dallas and that a formal annoucement is likely to be made in the next few days.Thursday night, Lubbock's KLBK-13 CBS TV reported that the Cowboys have struck a deal with Owens. But when contacted by FOXSports.com about the report, agent Drew Rosenhaus vehemently denied that any such deal was finalized.Now the next 48 hours will tell who's telling the truth.Owens was finally released by the Eagles on Tuesday, and his release was timed so that the Eagles could avoid paying him a $5 million roster bonus due Wednesday. In addition to Dallas, Denver, Kansas City and Miami were said to be interested.But the Cowboys talk heated up when, soon after Owens was released, the Cowboys cut receiver Keyshawn Johnson to avoid a $1 million bonus. Johnson was scheduled to make only $1.5 million this season, but was seeking an extension and a raise.Owens is two years younger than Johnson and more dynamic, with defenses fearing him deep and across the middle. He has also been disruptive to his own teams, leaving bad feelings in San Francisco and wearing out his welcome even more quickly in Philadelphia, albeit after helping the Eagles get to the Super Bowl.The Eagles have long been wary about the Cowboys trying to land Owens, even asking the NFL to punish Jones for comments in November that they interpreted as trying to woo him. Philadelphia backed off its tampering claim a few days later, but the coming days might prove whether team officials were onto something.Owens in a Dallas uniform would be a stunning turn of events considering how reviled he was for celebrating touchdowns against the Cowboys on the team's midfield logo at Texas Stadium. But he's a marquee player in every sense, and Jones has never shied from those types.Adding to the intrigue is the presence of coach Bill Parcells. He had no problem taking in Johnson two years ago when the receiver was coming off a spat with Tampa Bay coach Jon Gruden, but that was different because they'd been together before.An Owens-Parcells pairing would be nothing if not interesting, although the same was thought about Parcells and Jones, and they're three years into their relationship without any known blowups.The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Even the Cowboys official site has the deal as "near" completion. :popcorn:
 
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Do any of the stat guys have numbers for percentage of throws in red zone and such?

Philly I recall as leading the league in those types of numbers. This led to Owen's big numbers. Will they be lessened in Dallas?

 
yeah, parcells will try to run it rather than throw it, especially with an immobile qb. MBIII at the end of the last season really showed a nose for the end zone.

parcells did go to keyshawn a lot though. not sure if TO can do that or not. i don't really think of TO as a short yardage type of guy

 
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I'll make the same one I made last year: Link

I don't think he'll play more than 10 games or so. He'll get benched or suspended for insubordination or something similar. In the games he plays, he'll play well.

10 games, 840/9
 
yeah, parcells will try to run it rather than throw it, especially with an immobile qb. MBIII at the end of the last season really showed a nose for the end zone.

parcells did go to keyshawn a lot though. not sure if TO can do that or not. i don't really think of TO as a short yardage type of guy
The reason you don't think of TO as a short yardage guy is he makes the short yards into long yardage. He's not Moss or Gates, but he's among the better "leap ball" WRs in the league.
 
yeah, parcells will try to run it rather than throw it, especially with an immobile qb. MBIII at the end of the last season really showed a nose for the end zone.

parcells did go to keyshawn a lot though. not sure if TO can do that or not. i don't really think of TO as a short yardage type of guy
The reason you don't think of TO as a short yardage guy is he makes the short yards into long yardage. He's not Moss or Gates, but he's among the better "leap ball" WRs in the league.
Agreed.Good move by the Cowboys. They replaced an unproductive mouth with a productive mouth. Good switch, IMO.

 
I know the guy's got skills, but the last two teams he was with knew he had skills and still chose to be without him that to put up with his bull####. I'd love to see the specifics of the deal.

I'm not much of a Cowboy fan, but I'm definately :popcorn: on this one.

 
I'm very happy for Drew Bledsoe if this turns out to be true. I really like Drew, and hope this is the piece he needs to get to another Superbowl.

 
I'm thinking Parcells, unless he's suddenly had a change of mentality in his old age, will put up with precious little of Owens' BS. Wouldn't it be sweet to see him bench the POS?

 
LOL @ any Dallas fan that embraces this move. LOL @ anyone who in their desperation not to suck will make a bargain with the known devil, but particularly so when that devil has already taken a metaphorical dump on you as has Owens on Dallas.

 
I remember all the talk when TO when to Philly:

"He wont have great numbers because Philly spreads the ball around so much"

I reminded everyone that having TO means you use him to the best of his abilities because he is a threat to go to the endzone any time he touches the field. He is a huge mismatch to defenses which opens up more running and other passing matchups.

TO makes teams better (on the field) wherever he goes.

 
I know the guy's got skills, but the last two teams he was with knew he had skills and still chose to be without him that to put up with his bull####. I'd love to see the specifics of the deal.

I'm not much of a Cowboy fan, but I'm definately :popcorn: on this one.
How did that work out in the win column for them?
 

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