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:MERGED: *** Official T.O. thread *** (1 Viewer)

if true...i'll guess jones paid out $10 mil in GUARANTEED MONEY :eek:

for the record - great signing for dallas (i suspect most will disagree though)
from espn.com
Owens, who was released by the Eagles on Tuesday, will earn a bonus of $5 million for this season and a base salary of $5 million, for total compensation of $10 million. Under his contract with the Eagles, Owens would have earned $8.52 million for 2006.
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JERRY JONES

Welcome....blah, blah, blah.... here is Drew Rosenhaus first.

DREW ROSENHAUS

There were many teams interested but the Cowboys were the most aggressive and the best fit. This is a match made in heaven for Terrell.

JERRY JONES

I understand this will open us up to scrutiny, especially on the local level, but it's something I have never shied away from. It's important to know how much I consider the tradition, visibility of this team, and that everything I do is held to a higher standard on this team. Terrell knows this as well.

A part of our job on a daily basis is to do EVERYTHING we can do to make our team compete at a higher level. I have always believed in taking advantage of opportunity. Just like I had a chance to do that 17 years ago and buy the team, those were tough times, and working with Bum Bright, I was able to get the future of this team started. I have never felt I owned the team, I am only running with the ball.

We have never had a chance to have a player of Terrell Owens' talent, competiveness and other factors in free agency. Players like that simply are not available. We talked (Stephen and Bill Parcells) and knew that he needed a team like this too. A team that understands locker room chemistry, a team that has had legends. Bill was ALWAYS behind this decision from the get-go. The bottom line is this improves our team to the level our fans deserve.

Terrell practices hard and it's important that everyone knows that. We had a great receiver by the name of Michael Irvin who used to lead the way with his work ethic. And Michael would also tell you that there have always been issues behind the scenes, but we found a spot and came together to win.

This gives us an opporunity to do things offensively that we just haven't been able to do before. And all this that I have mentioned is the logic behind this signing. It wasn't done to be in the papers, it wasn't a cavalier move, it was looked at with the perspective of the players we have, and a chance to do some big things this year. Bill makes everyone understand what a locker room is and how it has to work together. This is no free lunch, we showed TO going in that we respected him and believed in him (especially from a financial standpoint), and he believes in us. We think we can make this happen right now!

TERRELL OWENS

Thanks to god. Thanks to my family that has been on my side the entire way. Thanks to Drew even though I give him a hard time. Thanks to Jerry Jones for giving me the opportunity to play football again. Looking forward to getting to know Bill Parcells. My main focus is to win ball games and a championship, like it ALWAYS has been. I experienced some life experiences both personally and professionally last year, but they only make me stronger and wiser. I will be a better teammate and a better person with what I've learned. I couldn't be more excited to be here and my history is just that -- history!

I meant no disrespect when I stepped on the star. Just as Emmitt did when he stepped back on it, I intend to embrace that star now.

JERRY JONES Q&A

I have always thought my best gambles in free agency and the draft were when I started with quality. In this case, I start with an outstanding football player, in the game and practice! We have done our homework in many ways. We aren't looking at the perception and headlines, we appreciate the good things we've heard from people who worked closely with Terrell. I really know we are better as a team than we were a few minuts ago.

TERRELL OWENS Q&A

Like Jerry said, he has talked to people who knew me. I can't assure him that I am worth the risk, he has to do the background check, and know my heart and what kind of player I am. It starts today! I won't be disruptive to this team. You can't move forward if you keep bringing up the past.

Yes I've made mistakes. I've learned lessons through the entire Philly ordeal.

I haven't talked to Bill Parcells extensively, only a phone conversation.

JERRY JONES Q&A

We have a heads-up agreement about discipline. This is no free lunch. We made a committment to each other. This is an outstanding positive thing for both our club and for TO.

TERRELL OWENS Q&A

I just want to say, Jerry, I won't let you down!

The Cowboys are a team that is right on the edge, just like Philly was when I joined them. They needed someone to get them over the hump, and I'll use that same approach with Dallas. This is America's Team, I feel right at home. I'm a star amongst stars now!

JERRY JONES Q&A

We're not going to get into the details of the contract. You'll find them out later. Just know I didn't want this a trial and error thing. I am sure that what TO brings to a team will be a postive thing.

TERRELL OWENS Q&A

Not to go into the details of Philly, but there are two sides of every story. The only thing I can do is move on.

To the fans, all I can say is I'm looking forward to the upcoming season, and get your popcorn ready, cause it's going to be a show!

JERRY JONES Q&A

The timing of free agency had been pushed back several times so Bill's schedule anticipated that we wouldn't have to worry about our vacation before it was all pushed back. Bill & I came to mutual agreement on this the same way we have with every decision for the team. We debated it, we looked at the pros and cons. I can't emphasize enough, we were on the same page with this. No one sold to anyone. There was also no pressure for Bill to win now with where he is in his career or contract. This is for the future as well. Bill expresses players he is interested in, we sit down and talk about it with Stephen. We discuss amongst our scouting department. If there is a tie, I break it. However, there was no tie here, no issues, we both uniformly agreed that TO should be a part of the team. Bill became convinced that Terrell has the potential to be a positive part of a team concept, and it has everything to do with his work ethic. He can lead people out the door to practice and to be competitive on the field. It was mentioned when Bill joined that we would have a hard time getting along, but hopefully during my period I have realized the sensitives and I hope I have grown and will not repeat the same mistakes I did with Jimmy Johnson. I remember when Bill Walsh was on the news after our split and said we got careless with our relationship. We don't have to walk on eggshells with ourselves and certain players, we just have to have a certain sensitiveness to our decision. You have no idea how hard Bill worked with Antonio Bryant to get it to work. In the end, dropped balls had the most to do with AB's release than anything else.

DREW ROSENAHAUS Q&A

I spent several times talking with Bill. I've known him for several years, and he is thoroughly involved with this as any coach I've ever known. I can confirm that this was Bill's decision as much as Jerry's decision.

JERRY JONES Q&A

There was no tampering. We know how well it went with Philly in our initial explorations. We wanted our backs to have more running room, we wanted defenses to respect us more, this desire all evolved into speculation about TO.

We had a consensus among our decision makers in the team that if we could make this work, we'd be a much better team.

STEPHEN JONES Q&A

Most of the negotiations were done over the phone. Not much face-to-face.

JERRY JONES Q&A

You base your expectations on a player with their last games and project that out. We've signed 4 other free agents and we have to assume that they're going to be at the level they were in the past. You always take risks. This isn't an old maid's portfolio we're dealing with here. The minute you think you have every base covered, you're surprised.

I don't view it the way Philly did as the final piece of the Super Bowl, I view it as a good step to being able to move the ball better. It helps the protection for Bledsoe, and gives him a place to get the ball quickly. There is no doubt in my mind that we have improved our ability to move the football.

TERRELL OWENS Q&A

My relationship with Drew Bledsoe is yet to begin. When it happens, production on the field will speak for itself. I'm looking forward to working with him, catching a lot of TDs, winning games and getting to the Playoffs.

The tradition of the Cowboys meant something. I'm good friends with Michael Irvin and he lended his advice. Michael being a friend was good enough for me, he didn't have to sell me on the Cowboys.

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JERRY JONES Q&A

I don't view this as a HIGH risk signing. Just a risk.

DREW ROSENHAUS Q&A

Every player is a risk. But keep in mind there were 7 teams interested in TO. The Cowboys were not the ONLY team going after TO. There were a lot of teams willing to pay Terrell high dollar. Dallas is a smart, smart organization. TO said himself h's ecstatic to be here. He was treated fairly. Dallas has put their faith in TO and he's grateful and appreciative and let me tell you, Terrell and Jerry have fallen in love already. It's a premier football organization and one of the greatest coaches ever. The future has never looked brighter.

We're moving on. No reason to look back at the Eagles situation. Just like Terrell said, there are 2 sides to everything. All that counts is Jerry Jones, Bill Parcells and the Cowboys organization. This is going to have a very happy ending.

JERRY JONES Q&A

I did not quantify the risk. I said there is risk, but I did not want to imply this was a risky decision. I believe that Terrell's abilities, what he brings to the table, those are there. You guys talking about his experiences in San Fran and Philly, well we've had the same types of experiences with players on this team and players we've brought in, and we've won Super Bowls with them. Bill has coached a lot of players that have the profile that they don't fit in with the team and been very successful.

TERRELL OWENS Q&A

I was suspended, I've had a whole lot of time to think about things. I know who I am as a person and I can't sit here and try to defend myself against you guys. I've always been a good teammate. There are a lot of players around the league who know who I am as a person and teammmate.

I will embrace the star. (his political answer to will you stand on the star again)

PC is over as they rush to their planes.

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I see JJ and Barber III as sharing time in the backfield. Barber really developed a nose for the goalline and I don't see that changing as Parcells LOVES that ability.

I see JJ around 1200-1300 total yards and maybe 5 TDs while Barber III adds on about 600 total yards and 8-10 TDs.

I see TO as a big part of opening things up to allow the above.
Guys i cant understand what is the deal with Barber .Julius is no small Rb he can get in from short yardage .

Last year he got injured and then took a while getting back into shape ( that is the only reason Barber got the goal line touches )

But a J.J healthy doenst need anyone for short yardag the guy can do it all.
i agreeweek 16

34 carr

194 yards

2 TDs

 
If TO plays 16 games in 2006, I'm thinking like 1250 yds and 11-12 tds... basing this on what Parcells' WRs have done historically, TO's age and ability.

 
JC Joe, amazing! I would have never even thought Dallas was an option had you not posted this thread!! Kudos to yoU!!! :thumbup:

You might want to have a God complex now.... :thumbdown:

 
from that press conference, this thing is going to be a disaster. TO wouldn't budge a bit. and JJ was walking on egg shells refusing to say it was a risky decision. let's see if parcells can work his magic.
I disagree with this. I am not saying TO has changed his ways but he was publicly willing to admit his made mistakes. I see that as being a big deal. He was not admitting anything before. I also think JJ did speak to the risks very clearly he just tried to make sure that he kept a positive spin on this.
 
EDIT TO ADD: BUMP OF OLD POST

searching through old TO posts (there's a few of them...lol) i was surprised by this info. i had no idea about any of this

 
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I see JJ and Barber III as sharing time in the backfield. Barber really developed a nose for the goalline and I don't see that changing as Parcells LOVES that ability.

I see JJ around 1200-1300 total yards and maybe 5 TDs while Barber III adds on about 600 total yards and 8-10 TDs.

I see TO as a big part of opening things up to allow the above.
Guys i cant understand what is the deal with Barber .Julius is no small Rb he can get in from short yardage .

Last year he got injured and then took a while getting back into shape ( that is the only reason Barber got the goal line touches )

But a J.J healthy doenst need anyone for short yardag the guy can do it all.
i agreeweek 16

34 carr

194 yards

2 TDs
I disagree. JJ has never been a good goal-line option. My recollection is that he was 3 of 12 on GL carries in his first year. He was worse in his second year, but you guys will blame that on his injuries (which will happen again this year).
 
Bledsoe will be crying by the third game!!!!!

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And yet you post the following on your "blog"......Dallas is now an automatic Super Bowl favorite for the 2006 season. Owens improves not only the offense here, but his going up against a (at times) suspect secondary every day in practice will do nothing but help the D in Big D. All other NFL offseason

signings pale in comparison to this one. TO is the only player on the market with the capability to add 5 wins to any team he

goes to.

Bump Dallas QB Drew Bledsoe up to a #1 QB in all your Fantasy Football Leagues now. He could push 30 touchdown passes

with Owens, Terry Glenn and Jason Witten.

:rolleyes:
:own3d:
 
As a Redskins fan I despise the Cowboys. As a decent human being, I despise TO. All that being the case, I am also a JJ dynasty owner and I hope the TO signing frees him up for big ###
Big glitch here... you can not be a Redskins fan AND decent human being...just is not possible. Kind of like a smart Eagles fan.
 
I see JJ and Barber III as sharing time in the backfield. Barber really developed a nose for the goalline and I don't see that changing as Parcells LOVES that ability.

I see JJ around 1200-1300 total yards and maybe 5 TDs while Barber III adds on about 600 total yards and 8-10 TDs.

I see TO as a big part of opening things up to allow the above.
One was a long score and the other was a draw play from the 6 or 7 yd line. JJ is not a very good GL runner, Barber is.Guys i cant understand what is the deal with Barber .

Julius is no small Rb he can get in from short yardage .

Last year he got injured and then took a while getting back into shape ( that is the only reason Barber got the goal line touches )

But a J.J healthy doenst need anyone for short yardag the guy can do it all.
i agreeweek 16

34 carr

194 yards

2 TDs
 
Bledsoe will be crying by the third game!!!!!

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Bledsoe is one of the toughest QB's in the game now. He has been through a lot in his career - Parcells challenging him NE, going through losing his job to Brady, being blamed for everything in Buffalo, and coming back to play for the guy that put him through hell in NE. Playing with TO is a cakewalk for him.
 
Just you wait.

I'm a PATS season tix holder and saw Drew his whole career in NE. I loved drew but I have a sneakin suspicion that DREW and TO will be a disaster!

I might be wrong but I don't think I will be.

But if I am I'll say i was wrong and I'll be happy for DREW.

 
A poster said that Owens will be on his best behavior this year, if only to shut up his critics.  To me, I just don't see that happening.  I don't think Owens is capable of being on his "best behavior".  The guy has issues, very serious issues, IMO.
I don't believe he really has "serious issues". Everything he does is calculated. It's about fame, notoriety and money. Period. He does everything to achieve an end, be it a contract renegotiation or forcing a trade. He manipulates the media into creating a circus over his every move. He intentionally causes distractions on the team ONLY when it suits his goals. Everything is planned and staged. And this coming year he will be out to put up huge numbers, prove his detractors wrong [/B]and win. And hopefully he can stick it to the Eagles while he's at it.
That's kind of my point. Of course that is going to be his mindset. Only, that won't be Parcells'. Parcells is all about winning, his way. If he can, he will pound the ball and run 30-40 times a game. He would love to win low scoring games with solid defense and ball control offense. Having a star WR is great for Parcells, but my not be great for the WR's ambitions of putting up huge numbers.What do you think is going to happen if Dallas starts winning games but Owens's numbers aren't stellar?

I'm not saying he will have a down year at all. In fact, I think he can have a very solid year, better than he did with Philly before breaking his leg. Only problem is, I don't think that will satisfy Owens this year. IMO, he is simply a time bomb waiting to go off. It's only a matter of time, unless everything falls into place and they win and he gets his catches and TD's.

 
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Just you wait.

I'm a PATS season tix holder and saw Drew his whole career in NE. I loved drew but I have a sneakin suspicion that DREW and TO will be a disaster!

I might be wrong but I don't think I will be.

But if I am I'll say i was wrong and I'll be happy for DREW.
Drew won't take his crap - look at what he did when Keyshawn was crying about catching a ball that got him hit. Drew handled that quickly and it was done. If there's one thing that Drew wants to accomplish it's winning a Super Bowl, not as a backup, and he's not going to let TO's tantrums stop him.
 
Well I'm not a famous athlete but I can say I grew up in a highly dysfunctional family - in my case maybe no father would have been better.

What I think many fail to see is his antics are not "Look at me'....

Its more "I told you I'm not a loser"

How many whippings do you think he got so that last night on NATIONAL TELEVISION he admits that that is the thing he is still scared of the most.

I'm not necessarily propping him up - he is certainly immature and often eats his foot - but he's got fire, does not tolerate losing and earned what he got. I'll take that over the gun toting thugs on the Ravens any day...
:goodposting:
 
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There was a review of TO's new autobiography in this week's SI, and it had some content that made me re-evalate him...

-Did not meet his father until he was 11

-Rarely saw his mother, who worked two shifts at the Russell Athletic mill in town

-Was regularly and severely beaten by his grandmother growing up: "The only time you could relax was when she got depressed thinking about her mother [who disappeared when To's grandma was only 12] and started drinking...But if she drank too much you might get another whipping."

-The windows of his house were kept shut and the shades were drawn, with Terrell only allowed to leave the house to go to shcool or church

-Developed a crush on a girl across the street, but was told by her father that he couldn't be interested in her because she was his half-sister...Her father was HIS father also, and he had never been told that he was living across the street from his father

I think it is remarkable that he was able to get beyond this childhood trauma and abuse (physical and emotional) to become such a successful athlete...

Owens is quoted as saying "my upbringing made for underdeveloped social skills."

That is certainly understandable, and really, a lot of what people criticize Owens for can be viewed as a manifestation of social dysfunction (his inability to stop talking about certain subjects [i.e. the Garcia thing]; his showy attitude that rubs many the wrong way, etc.)...

If you look at it from another perspective, however, (and a point that Owens himself has made) Terrell has never been arrested, never beaten his wife/girlfriend, never been suspended for drug use, etc...

Compared to many other athletes, both in the NFL and in other sports, who have much more sodid pasts but don't get 1/2 the criticism that Owens does, Owens has been a choirboy...

I know I will be looking at Owens differently from here on out, and will actively root for him to succeed (except when I play him in FF, of course)...
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: Poor little TO and his rough childhood. It's no excuse for being the immature punk that he is.

 
how to respect other people in this world.
Respect as defined by TO haters:
Stabbing someone
Driving Drunk
Lieing to the police
Raming you vehicle into another vehicle
Not speaking your mind
Domestic viloence
Drug Abuse
Altercation with a traffic officer
Loaded weapons in cars :tinfoilhat:
What players who have done those things are respected by TO haters? At most it's Ray Lewis, but lying to the police to protect your friends is not a bad thing IMO.
 
As a Redskins fan I despise the Cowboys. As a decent human being, I despise TO. All that being the case, I am also a JJ dynasty owner and I hope the TO signing frees him up for big ###
Big glitch here... you can not be a Redskins fan AND decent human being...just is not possible. Kind of like a smart Eagles fan.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
 
how to respect other people in this world.
Respect as defined by TO haters:
Stabbing someone
Driving Drunk
Lieing to the police
Raming you vehicle into another vehicle
Not speaking your mind
Domestic viloence
Drug Abuse
Altercation with a traffic officer
Loaded weapons in cars :tinfoilhat:
What players who have done those things are respected by TO haters? At most it's Ray Lewis, but lying to the police to protect your friends is not a bad thing IMO.
But its far worse than anything TO has done in life.
 
TO's childhood shouldn't exempt him from accountablity .

There are a lot of hard luck childhood stories in sports .

The real problem is , excusing TO's transgression's is what get's him into trouble in the fisrt place .

 
I have no real constructive message here, those expecting one should move on.

It's just that I'm tired of the media and the fans constantly fanning the flames of this jerk's ego. Do I think T.O. will improve the Cowboys... Yes. Do I care... not really. Does it radically change the landscape of fantasy football... no.

Am I sick to death of Owens and wish he'd retire already... hell YES!

 
That 8 of the top 11 threads I'm currently looking at involve Terrell Owens makes me sick.

Can we just group all of this into one thread?

seriously..... stop.

[Good idea -- MT]

 
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I have no real constructive message here, those expecting one should move on.

It's just that I'm tired of the media and the fans constantly fanning the flames of this jerk's ego. Do I think T.O. will improve the Cowboys... Yes. Do I care... not really. Does it radically change the landscape of fantasy football... no.

Am I sick to death of Owens and wish he'd retire already... hell YES!
:goodposting: Couldn't agree more.
 
That 8 of the top 11 threads I'm currently looking at involve Terrell Owens makes me sick.

Can we just group all of this into one thread?

seriously..... stop.

[Good idea -- MT]
Thanks much :)
 
I never want to win so badly that I'd whore myself. 
Dinosaur. You realize you might as well be speaking Chinese right?
I do indeed. Those circling the drain into the cess pool are blind and happy. They are correct though, they are cess pool creatures and will be happy there and glad the likes of me are not around to comment on the stink. Me, I'm comfortable with them thinking I'm an anachronism at best and more likely a pathetic, out ot date and out of touch chump or a moralizer. To each their own.If I cared enough to make the point, and if the data base was still intact I'd search each Cowboy homers postings when Owens metaphorically peed around your star and marked his territory. Uniformly each and every one of you condemed him and roundly stated you would never whore yourself for him. Now you are doing so.

As a fantasy owner I'd still draft him. He will be productive, he will help Dallas, but he will not bring the superbowl. What he will do is improve the team enough to make the playoffs, get worst draft choices as a result, and then age back into mediocrity.

BTW, he will be charming and funny with the press. He will say the right things in practice. It is game pressure that will break him. In a game, when the adreniline is flowing, when something goes bad, that's when he will snap. In that regard he is like McEnroe in tennis. Neither can help themselves when the pressure is on because the are hypercompetitive. The very trait that makes Owens great is the one that causes him to blow. Get rid of that trait and you have a T.O. that doesn't care-in other words no T.O. at all.

 
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didn't see this elsewhere

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2374225

The three-year contract can be worth as much as $25 million if Owens plays through the deal and Dallas opts to pay him pricey roster bonuses in the springs of 2007 and 2008.

Owens, who was released by the Eagles on Tuesday, will earn a bonus of $5 million for this season and a base salary of $5 million, for total compensation of $10 million. Under his contract with the Eagles, Owens would have earned $8.52 million for 2006.

It should be noted that Owens lost about $4 million in 2005, between the base salary that he forfeited during his suspension and the prorated signing bonus money the Eagles withheld because they claimed he was in default on his contract.

Dallas must pay Owens a roster bonus of $3 million in March 2007 to retain him for that season, at a base salary of $5 million. There is another roster bonus of $3 million due in March 2008, and Owens has a base salary of $4 million for that year.

Under the terms of the seven-year, $49 million contract that Owens signed with Philadelphia after being traded to the Eagles in 2004, he would have earned $20.27 million for the 2006-2008 seasons. So there is the potential, should the contract with the Cowboys remain intact, for Owens to make nearly $5 million more in Dallas than he would have with the Eagles.

Compared to the contracts of other high-profile wide receivers leaguewide, Owens can earn more over a three-year period than Randy Moss of Oakland did with his recent deal, and more over two seasons than Indianapolis' Marvin Harrison did with his new contract signed two years ago.

Of course, as was the case in Philadelphia, Owens' earning potential will be tied to his performance on and off the field. Because of the roster bonus, and the exercise dates of each, the contract in Dallas could be as short as one season. Even at one year, however, the $10 million that Owens will bank is more than some skeptics felt he could garner after his tumultuous 2005 season.

And if Owens is productive, and is not a distraction, the Cowboys seem to have the wherewithal and the future salary cap space to retain him for all three seasons of the contract.
 
I wonder if Cowboy fans still think he disrespecting them and their Star at midfield?

What is the over/under on when..

A. Parcells head explodes over TO?

B. When TO wants a new contract?

 
how to respect other people in this world.
Respect as defined by TO haters: :tinfoilhat:
What players who have done those things are respected by TO haters? At most it's Ray Lewis, but lying to the police to protect your friends is not a bad thing IMO.
But its far worse than anything TO has done in life.
Not a chance. I'd much rather have a guy like Lewis around me who is willing to lay his career and life on the line to back me up than a selfish punk who only cares about himself.
 
Bledsoe is one of the toughest QB's in the game now. He has been through a lot in his career - Parcells challenging him NE, going through losing his job to Brady, being blamed for everything in Buffalo, and coming back to play for the guy that put him through hell in NE. Playing with TO is a cakewalk for him.

:goodposting: :football:

 
Bledsoe is one of the toughest QB's in the game now. He has been through a lot in his career - Parcells challenging him NE, going through losing his job to Brady, being blamed for everything in Buffalo, and coming back to play for the guy that put him through hell in NE. Playing with TO is a cakewalk for him.

:goodposting: :football:
Did you just give yourself a good posting in the same post?
 
how to respect other people in this world.
Respect as defined by TO haters:
Stabbing someone
Driving Drunk
Lieing to the police
Raming you vehicle into another vehicle
Not speaking your mind
Domestic viloence
Drug Abuse
Altercation with a traffic officer
Loaded weapons in cars :tinfoilhat:
What players who have done those things are respected by TO haters? At most it's Ray Lewis, but lying to the police to protect your friends is not a bad thing IMO.
OK, covering up for a murder is technically a felony, but it's nowhere near as bad as criticizing a teammate... Sometimes I wonder about the moral codes of sports fans. :rolleyes:

 
how to respect other people in this world.
Respect as defined by TO haters:
Stabbing someone
Driving Drunk
Lieing to the police
Raming you vehicle into another vehicle
Not speaking your mind
Domestic viloence
Drug Abuse
Altercation with a traffic officer
Loaded weapons in cars :tinfoilhat:
What players who have done those things are respected by TO haters? At most it's Ray Lewis, but lying to the police to protect your friends is not a bad thing IMO.
OK, covering up for a murder is technically a felony, but it's nowhere near as bad as criticizing a teammate... Sometimes I wonder about the moral codes of sports fans. :rolleyes:
Exactly...someone's got sense.
 
how to respect other people in this world.
Respect as defined by TO haters: :tinfoilhat:
What players who have done those things are respected by TO haters? At most it's Ray Lewis, but lying to the police to protect your friends is not a bad thing IMO.
OK, covering up for a murder is technically a felony, but it's nowhere near as bad as criticizing a teammate... Sometimes I wonder about the moral codes of sports fans. :rolleyes:
It's not bad to me. Maybe you guys want "friends" that will spill their guts as soon as they get a chance, but not me. I don't care that it's technically a felon, it's the right thing to do in a case like that.Also, Lewis was not subpeoned to court to testify and never lied on the stand. He refused to tell the police anything under interrogation.

 
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how to respect other people in this world.
Respect as defined by TO haters: :tinfoilhat:
What players who have done those things are respected by TO haters? At most it's Ray Lewis, but lying to the police to protect your friends is not a bad thing IMO.
OK, covering up for a murder is technically a felony, but it's nowhere near as bad as criticizing a teammate... Sometimes I wonder about the moral codes of sports fans. :rolleyes:
It's not bad to me. Maybe you guys want "friends" that will spill their guts as soon as they get a chance, but not me. I don't care that it's technically a felon, it's the right thing to do in a case like that.
So its better to let a murderer...especially if its you haha...go unpunished and ignore the grieving of a family than publically insult a teammate? I catch your drift.
 
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Cowboys | Owens' deal contains no incentives

Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:31:07 -0800

Todd Archer, of the Dallas Morning News, reports the contract signed by Dallas Cowboys WR Terrell Owens contains no incentives. "It's a straightforward deal," Owens' agent, Drew Rosenhaus, said. The Cowboys did not put any added language into the contract that would prohibit Owens from off-field activities or force a repayment of the signing bonus. Once the new collective bargaining agreement is finalized, there will be standard signing bonus language in every contract. Under the new CBA, a player can no longer be deactivated for disciplinary reasons, although a team could choose not to play him on a week-to-week basis.

Interesting...

 

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