:MERGED: *** Official T.O. thread *** (2 Viewers)

[Routilla]

eagles fans?

 

[bostonfred]

I wonder if Cowboy fans still think he disrespecting them and their Star at midfield?

What is the over/under on when..

A. Parcells head explodes over TO?

B. When TO wants a new contract?

A) Parcells dealt with LT. I doubt it's a problem.B) Owens got paid the way the Eagles should have paid him in the first place. I doubt it's a problem.

 

[glock]

I have no real constructive message here, those expecting one should move on.

It's just that I'm tired of the media and the fans constantly fanning the flames of this jerk's ego. Do I think T.O. will improve the Cowboys... Yes. Do I care... not really. Does it radically change the landscape of fantasy football... no.

Am I sick to death of Owens and wish he'd retire already... hell YES!

Unless of course you had him stashed away on your roster...

...Oh...That's right...You wouldn't have a player like T.O. on your roster.

 

[Loomba]

I have to say that in the years that I have been on this board I don't know if I have ever seen a more fitting animation.But seriously, all I can say is thank God that Rosenhaus is finally going to get his payday. That man has done nothing but work his butt off for Owens since he signed with him. He got him out of that crappy $49 mil contract, alienated him from the fans, and helped get him what I'm betting is a much worse contract taht will be laden with incentives and low base salary. He has earned every penny of the 10% he's going to take from TO.

Long live the agents!!!

Actually, it sounds like Drew negotiated a heck of a deal for TO and a big payday for himself. Very surprising the Cowboys would give him such a sweet contract but props for his agent asking for a pile and keeping a straight face while doing it.

 

[glock]

how to respect other people in this world.

Respect as defined by TO haters:

What players who have done those things are respected by TO haters? At most it's Ray Lewis, but lying to the police to protect your friends is not a bad thing IMO.

OK, covering up for a murder is technically a felony, but it's nowhere near as bad as criticizing a teammate... Sometimes I wonder about the moral codes of sports fans.

It's not bad to me. Maybe you guys want "friends" that will spill their guts as soon as they get a chance, but not me. I don't care that it's technically a felon, it's the right thing to do in a case like that.Also, Lewis was not subpeoned to court to testify and never lied on the stand. He refused to tell the police anything under interrogation.

The right thing to do? Now that is some manly ####. What happened to "Do the crime, do the time."?? Owning up? Where your moral compass is pointing to so that it justifies protecting a known murderer, I have no idea. Simply because he runs with your posse?

You are either so or that is some mean ghetto shtick.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

I think he runs to the star after he scores his first td at home

 

[SoloMatisse]

....by scoring 12-15 TDs.....and keeping his big yap shut!

 

[Duke1948]

....by scoring 12-15 TDs.....and keeping his big yap shut!

what he said

 

[SoloMatisse]

He's in Dallas. It's official. He's got a strong armed veteran QB who can make all the passes and has a history of being fantasy money. The surrounding talent is there....not one, but a couple of RBs to keep things balanced. Another game breaker on the other side in Glenn. Very nice TE eating up seams and space in Witten. Solid line to provide time to help make the magic possible. $$$ in his pockets. An arsenal of ammunition in the form of doubters and haters.....many in the very home stands where he'll be playing. HOF status perhaps hanging in the balance, though we all know he'll end up in Canton. A possible Super Bowl title out there waiting to be won. He's had the taste. Parcells will feed him the ball. He's shown during his storied coaching history that he's able to adapt to the talent around him. He proved it with Bledsoe in NE when he evolved into "Air" Parcells. The talent and level of competition in this division is top notch. This thing is wide open between 4 teams, all of which can score, and there should be some shootouts. Dallas is a clear favorite now, imho, but they wont be walking away from anyone and every game could be a high scoring nail biter. Its all there. Great talent. Great stage. Great competition. Who's taking TO??? And not just as the first WR, but AHEAD of alot of excellent RBs? We all know he'll be the most sought after WR this season, but to what degree?? And I have to ask, is it a "sell out" if you go after him early and put your '06 championship hopes on him? What is his 1400yds and 15 TDs worth to us all? Because that's what we're looking at, barring injury. Do you pony up and take the mouth and the baggage, and all of the antics, or do you pass on TO and draft Fitzgerald or Steve Smith instead? Interesting. I've always been one to avoid the 'knucklehead' types for the sake of fielding a 'likeable' team, but I'll be the first to admit I've regretted it more than once. As much as TO is a completely unlikable PERSONALITY on alot of levels, I'm a numbers guy and he's a NUMBERS MACHINE. That white line I've drawn is about to brushed. WHO'S IN??????????

EDIT TO ADD:

I realize there will be a host of TO topics today and in the coming days, weeks and months. I'm still ALL IN!

 

[kellumsboys]

I'll just be keeping my fingers crossed for the next 3 years.

 

[-OZ-]

How much media will be there for TO's first practice?

Parcells can handle TO, but can TO handle Parcells?

Winning games has a way of winning fans

 

[brednbuddah]

Parcells is just the thing TO needs not only in football, but in life.

when TO was coming up in SF, there was a championship attitude instilled within the organization and plenty of super bowl veterans to keep him focused and in check.

after all those guys had gone TO had become the face of the niners. once they began losing that's when thing really got ugly. Garcia was quoted as calling him a cancer.

Same thing in Philly. Reid came from a super bowl pedigree and the Eagles had made the NFC championship game 3 years running, but there wasn't that same championship instilled attitude with the Eagles and super bowl caliber players as with SF. TO was on the same level as anybody on the team.

Dallas has always been "America's team". They're history and coach possess that championship attitude, sort of like the Yankees, that a guy like TO needs to keep his head straight.

Moreover, Parcells has made a living out of making team players out of "head cases" (OJ Anderson, Lawrence Taylor, Keyshawn Johnson, Brian Cox).

I think TO will be just fine in Dallas. I wish him well. No doubt he hits the star after his first TD in Dallas.

 

[Ridgelake]

Was Parcels at the news conference announcing the signing?

Parcells was not at the press conference. He has not attended a single FA signing press conference in his 3 years in Dallas. That's Jerry's domain......

 

[-OZ-]

I have TO in a dynasty league, and doubt I trade him. I'd take him as the #1 WR in a redraft. But I doubt I'd take the first WR off the board this year unless he drops to an insane value.

I have to laugh at those who use the players on their FF teams to judge their ethics. You'd be better off not looking at the names and just looking at projections. If it helps, write a little blurb about the player's potential, projections, etc.

For TO, instead of thinking of it as drafting "TO", think of it as drafting his stats, risk of a player on a new team, and prior injury issues.

 

[BigRed]

GB another Owens thread

I'll try hard to draft him. Seriously. I figure either he helps my team do well or he doesn't produce and starts whining and take dumps on "the star" or whatever, causing many assorted headaches for a team I hate and wasting JJ's money. ie I win either way.

 

[BigRed]

SUH WEET GB ***** THE OFFICIAL ****** OWENS THREAD!!!!

Course that doesn't mean we shouldn't have a 100 other ones.

 

[BigRed]

I don't know but GB another Owens thread

 

[JayMan]

I have TO in a dynasty league, and doubt I trade him. I'd take him as the #1 WR in a redraft. But I doubt I'd take the first WR off the board this year unless he drops to an insane value.

I have to laugh at those who use the players on their FF teams to judge their ethics. You'd be better off not looking at the names and just looking at projections. If it helps, write a little blurb about the player's potential, projections, etc.

For TO, instead of thinking of it as drafting "TO", think of it as drafting his stats, risk of a player on a new team, and prior injury issues.

I don't own TO in my [DYNASTY] leagues - but wouldn't mind a bit!

When playing FF - you have to look at a player's ceiling and floor... to rank them...

TO's ceiling is WR1 (100/1600/15)... but his floor put's him out of the WR1 spot - age/injuries/demeanur/coachability...

That's why I would go for Fitz as WR1 in [DYNASTY] and it's a tough choice between Holt/TO/CJ/Smith in [REDRAFT] PPR style

 

[BigRed]

Owens is quoted as saying "my upbringing made for underdeveloped social skills."

And we all know how hard he's trying.Anyway, GB another Owens thread, can't talk about him enough

 

[fatness]

Was Parcels at the news conference announcing the signing?

Parcells was not at the press conference. He has not attended a single FA signing press conference in his 3 years in Dallas. That's Jerry's domain......

Thanks, I appreciate the info.

 

[Liquid Tension]

I agree that regardless of upbringing we are responsible for our actions. etc, etc... But I also think that if this story of TO is true that it is not at all surprising he is acting the way he is. Children growing up without their father are starved for attention. It is difficult, almost impossible for any of us to imagine how we would act if we were in the same situation as he was and a superstar in the NFL. Again, assuming it is all true.

I don't appreciate show-offs and prideful antics either, but I hesitate to speak against TO too bad, because if all this is true and I don't show him a little bit of compassion I think it would be me that is the prideful one.

I have an issue with such a lack of respect for others by TO, but his upbringing clearly has impacted this flaw in personality.

 

[Liquid Tension]

I think this is perfect for TO. He has a no-nonsense coach who can be your best friend or worst enemy. He won't put up with TO's crap, and TO knows this. I'm quite sure they made it abundantly clear ahead of time, and I'm quite sure this will be worked out in his contract where any slip up will allow Dallas to cut ties with him with little or no trouble.

Overall, if TO behaves, I think he can flourish there in Dallas. They have a decent offense, and TO brings a whole new dimension to that team. Dallas has the Giants and Redskins to contend with and this will help out a lot.

I just find it all ironic and laughable though that he signed there, knowing his past history with Dallas...

One point is that Parcell's is a no nonsense guy, BUT, he looks the other way on his stars. LT was able to do what he wanted as long as performed on the field. Parcell's most definitely looked the other way with LT.

 

[Liquid Tension]

This just in reports of denials being bogus may be bogus!!

We apologise again for the fault in thesubtitles. Those responsible for sacking

the people who have just been sacked,

have been sacked.

Maybe people on a football forum got confused with the word "sacked"

Maybe they are too young to have watched Monty?

Maybe they thought it wasn't funny?

I liked it

 

[Chaos]

much of this has been brought to light before

I have always thought TO was a Jack###, but like the original poster said, he is a choirboy compared to some of the punk, criminal elements that infect the game.

I suggest we enjoy his on-field performance and hope that he seeks and receives off-field help.

 

[H.K.]

H.K. Nov 7 2005, 04:05 PM Post #99

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Remember, you heard it here first, it will be the DALLAS COWBOYS. Hear me out on this one:

1) Jerry Jones will do anything to win, and he'd love to stick it to a division rival in the process.

2) Parcells can handle Keyshawn, he'll handle T.O., too.

3) Michael Irvin's influence on T.O. will convince him that he'll be a god in Dallas and that he should take a small amount of $ to be treated like a god and make a bigger payday down the line.

Next time T.O. celebrates on the star, he'll have one on his helmet, too.

 

[H.K.]

Q: How Will T.OWENS win over dallas fans?

A: He will wear their teams uniform, score touchdowns for them and help them win games, so the fans will love him because his antics will be "entertaining". However, if Bledsoe gets hurts and nobody can get Owens the ball, the Cowboys will lose, TO won't get his catches and all hell will break loose. At this point his antics will be labeled "cancerous".

 

[BlueOnion]

I have to say that in the years that I have been on this board I don't know if I have ever seen a more fitting animation.But seriously, all I can say is thank God that Rosenhaus is finally going to get his payday. That man has done nothing but work his butt off for Owens since he signed with him. He got him out of that crappy $49 mil contract, alienated him from the fans, and helped get him what I'm betting is a much worse contract taht will be laden with incentives and low base salary. He has earned every penny of the 10% he's going to take from TO.

Long live the agents!!!

Actually, it sounds like Drew negotiated a heck of a deal for TO and a big payday for himself. Very surprising the Cowboys would give him such a sweet contract but props for his agent asking for a pile and keeping a straight face while doing it.

I started looking at the numbers today and seems like the Cowboys are not only paying T.O. less than the Eagles did, but giving him less guaranteed money.

3-year 25 million dollar contract

5 million in upfront singing bonus

3 one year deals worth 5, 7, and 8 million a piece

Jason Wood, if you swim by, could you reiterate how much money T.O. got in 2 years with the Eagles and what the signing bonus was?

 

[BlueOnion]

Quite interesting, it appears Dallas is not going to pay T.O. as much as the Eagles did. Good news for Cowboy fans, it seems T.O. is quite motivated that the Eagles paid him so much money.

 

[JAA]

if true...i'll guess jones paid out $10 mil in GUARANTEED MONEY 

for the record - great signing for dallas (i suspect most will disagree though)

from espn.com

Owens, who was released by the Eagles on Tuesday, will earn a bonus of $5 million for this season and a base salary of $5 million, for total compensation of $10 million. Under his contract with the Eagles, Owens would have earned $8.52 0 million for 2006 because his contract was designed for him to be cut after the 2005 season no matter what

fixed

 

[The Dude]

Including 5 TD's in their 2 wins over Philly.

 

[gman8343]

he's already won them over.

 

[Tong Po]

eagles fans?

I want to vomit.Is that the kind of commentary you were looking for?

 

[Sea Bass]

Dallas fans have supported players with more character flaws than T.O. has. They will simply justify his past and say that the star on his helmet makes him a new man. T.O. doesn't have to do anything but catch T.D. passes.

 

[Traders2001]

how to respect other people in this world.

Respect as defined by TO haters:

Stabbing someone
Driving Drunk
Lieing to the police
Raming you vehicle into another vehicle
Not speaking your mind
Domestic viloence
Drug Abuse
Altercation with a traffic officer
Loaded weapons in cars

Stabbing someone
Driving Drunk
Lieing to the police
Raming you vehicle into another vehicle
Not speaking your mind
Domestic viloence
Drug Abuse
Altercation with a traffic officer
Loaded weapons in cars

Are we talking about Ray Lewis here ............

 

[cowboyz]

Quite interesting, it appears Dallas is not going to pay T.O. as much as the Eagles did. Good news for Cowboy fans, it seems T.O. is quite motivated that the Eagles paid him so much money.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2374225Under the terms of the seven-year, $49 million contract that Owens signed with Philadelphia after being traded to the Eagles in 2004, he would have earned $20.27 million for the 2006-2008 seasons. So there is the potential, should the contract with the Cowboys remain intact, for Owens to make nearly $5 million more in Dallas than he would have with the Eagles.

just think eagles fans, all it took was $5 mil more. that's like jabar gaffney money.

 

[Chaos Commish]

I don't know but GB another Owens thread

 

[Chaos Commish]

he's already won them over.

Not all of them! I spent a good deal of time last night interviewing new teams for my loyalty.

 

[BlueOnion]

Quite interesting, it appears Dallas is not going to pay T.O. as much as the Eagles did. Good news for Cowboy fans, it seems T.O. is quite motivated that the Eagles paid him so much money.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2374225Under the terms of the seven-year, $49 million contract that Owens signed with Philadelphia after being traded to the Eagles in 2004, he would have earned $20.27 million for the 2006-2008 seasons. So there is the potential, should the contract with the Cowboys remain intact, for Owens to make nearly $5 million more in Dallas than he would have with the Eagles.

just think eagles fans, all it took was $5 mil more. that's like jabar gaffney money.

I guess perspective is everything, this is from the same article.

Of course, as was the case in Philadelphia, Owens' earning potential will be tied to his performance on and off the field. Because of the roster bonus, and the exercise dates of each, the contract in Dallas could be as short as one season. Even at one year, however, the $10 million that Owens will bank is more than some skeptics felt he could garner after his tumultuous 2005 season.

Also worth noting I think T.O. made upwards of over 10 million his first year with the Eagles and was close to 10 million (I believe 9.x million) his second year with the Eagles.Oddly enough, T.O.'s biggest complaint was the lack of guaranteed money by the Eagles, however his contract with the Cowboys has even less.

 

[mad sweeney]

Well I'm not a famous athlete but I can say I grew up in a highly dysfunctional family - in my case maybe no father would have been better.

What I think many fail to see is his antics are not "Look at me'....

Its more "I told you I'm not a loser"

How many whippings do you think he got so that last night on NATIONAL TELEVISION he admits that that is the thing he is still scared of the most.

I'm not necessarily propping him up - he is certainly immature and often eats his foot - but he's got fire, does not tolerate losing and earned what he got. I'll take that over the gun toting thugs on the Ravens any day...

The reasons WHY he's an egotistical,, supremely selfish, backstabbing jerk do not change the fact that he IS a egotistical,, supremely selfish, backstabbing jerk.I love it when people defend TO by comparing him to all the thugs and criminals in the league. you can tell a lot about a person by who they're compared to. So I guess TO ranks just slightly above violent felons as a human being. Nice comparasin.

And just because I think TO is a whiny tool that brings everything on himself and deserves tons of scorn doesn't mean that I think Lewis or Little or Pittman or anyone else on the criminal list are cool guys and worth more to the human race than TO.

The real test of an athlete is what his teammates think of him, and TO's not welcome back to the 2 teams he's been on. Hell, he isn't even wanted in Baltimore and he never really was on the team!

 

[gman8343]

he's already won them over.

Not all of them! I spent a good deal of time last night interviewing new teams for my loyalty.

So Michael Irvin being a cokehead never effected your love for the Boys?Or Kevin Williams for being arressted on domestic abuse?

Now a loudmouthed brat who's never been in trouble with the law is driving you away?

Shame! Shame I say!

 

[Please See Mine]

Quite interesting, it appears Dallas is not going to pay T.O. as much as the Eagles did.  Good news for Cowboy fans, it seems T.O. is quite motivated that the Eagles paid him so much money.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2374225Under the terms of the seven-year, $49 million contract that Owens signed with Philadelphia after being traded to the Eagles in 2004, he would have earned $20.27 million for the 2006-2008 seasons. So there is the potential, should the contract with the Cowboys remain intact, for Owens to make nearly $5 million more in Dallas than he would have with the Eagles.

just think eagles fans, all it took was $5 mil more. that's like jabar gaffney money.

I think it was actually $2.5 million. If I remember hearing right, they still had to pay him $2.5 mill more even if he was cut.

 

[DrJ]

Who really cares if TO destroys the team in year 2? Parcells will retire by then, and the team will be destroyed anyways.

 

[BowlBound]

All T.O. has to do is show up everyday and do his job... Being a team leader would be great but I would just love it if he just did his job and got along with everyone.... Be T.O. on the field and Terrell Owens in the locker room and with the press. He's a great talent and i was happy with the signing... Go Cowboys!!

 

[cstu]

how to respect other people in this world.

Respect as defined by TO haters:

What players who have done those things are respected by TO haters? At most it's Ray Lewis, but lying to the police to protect your friends is not a bad thing IMO.

OK, covering up for a murder is technically a felony, but it's nowhere near as bad as criticizing a teammate... Sometimes I wonder about the moral codes of sports fans.

It's not bad to me. Maybe you guys want "friends" that will spill their guts as soon as they get a chance, but not me. I don't care that it's technically a felon, it's the right thing to do in a case like that.Also, Lewis was not subpeoned to court to testify and never lied on the stand. He refused to tell the police anything under interrogation.

The right thing to do? Now that is some manly ####. What happened to "Do the crime, do the time."?? Owning up? Where your moral compass is pointing to so that it justifies protecting a known murderer, I have no idea. Simply because he runs with your posse?

You are either so or that is some mean ghetto shtick.

This wasn't a case of Lewis' friends planning cold-blooded murder - an altercation happened and two people were stabbed. He did the right thing in not saying anything to incriminating his friend for something that happened under strange circumstances that weren't clear cut. He went too far in telling witnesses not to report what they saw, but I don't find any fault in refusing to incriminate your friends until you are asked to do so in a court of law. Here's a good article about the case:

By Brian Carnell

Monday, January 29, 2001

After watching cover all week long and for interminable hours on Sunday, I think the media in general, and CBS in particular, were extremely unfair to Baltimore Ravens middle linebacker Ray Lewis. While Lewis certainly deserved his share of moral censure, CBS seemed intent on building up his role in last year's post-Super Bowl murder to a point that the facts don't support. Specifically several CBS commentators said before the game that two men were tragically murdered after last year's Super Bowl, but that Lewis has never told the truth about the incident. The first claim is certainly true, but the latter claim is an outright lie.

Lewis, in fact, testified in court in early June about the events that transpired after the Super Bowl. According to Lewis, he went with friends Reginald Oakley and Joseph Sweeting to an Atlanta nightclub. While hanging around outside the nightclub, Oakley was hit in the face with a champagne bottle and as Lewis testified, "all hell broke loose." Oakley and Sweeting were eventually charged with murdering Jacinth Baker and Richard Lollar in the ensuing brawl (Baker, according to testimony at the trial, was responsible for throwing the champagne bottle at Oakley).

Lewis testified that he had seen Oakley and Sweeting each brandishing knives the day before the fight. During the fight Lewis testified that he saw Oakley vigorously kicking one of the victims while a second person held the victim down.

Furthermore, Lewis testified about an extremely incriminating conversation he had with Sweeting after the brawl. Lewis said he asked Sweeting what happened. Sweeting, while making slashing motions with a knife he was holding in his fist, said, "Everytime they hit me, I hit them."

Was Lewis actively involve in the brawl? Possibly, but certainly not to level of murder. Although the prosecution had promised that it would call witnesses to testify that they had seen Lewis throwing punches, when placed on the stand those witnesses said that in fact they had not directly seen Lewis hitting anyone. The only prosecution witness who testified to seeing Lewis actively hitting and kicking people turned out to be a convicted felon who was in jail for identity theft at the time of Lewis' trial. The most damning point of the trial for the prosecution was when a witness prosecutors had claimed would testify that Lewis punched one of the dead men in fact testified that he heard Lewis screaming numerous times for everyone involved to stop fighting.

The case against Lewis was so weak, that it's hard not to believe that the point of prosecutor's including him in the indictment was to rattle him enough to strike a deal as he eventually did, pleading guilty to obstruction of justice.

On that count, Lewis' behavior was extremely shameful. Lewis may not have murdered the two defendants, but he instructed several witnesses not to talk to police about what they had seen that night. If that had been the focus of the media scrutiny -- Lewis' abject irresponsibility in the immediate aftermath of the brawl -- that would have been fair enough, but in fact many in the media seemed intent on intimating the Lewis himself might have had a direct role in the murders, which was completely contradicted by every bit of evidence at his trial.

Finally, media commentators intimated that it was Ray Lewis' fault that to date nobody has been jailed for the two brutal murders. In fact the responsibility there rests largely with prosecutors. Even with Lewis' extremely incriminating testimony, a jury found both Oakley and Sweeting not guilty on all charges. Why?

Because the prosecutors vastly overplayed their hand. Even though the evidence against Oakley and Sweeting was compelling to most observers, the prosecutor had walked in on day one and said this was an open and shut case. Then they had to drop Ray Lewis as a defendant, most of the witnesses recanted or modified their stories substantially, and in a few cases prosecutors misrepresented exactly what some witnesses had told police.

On top of that, prosecutors never managed to locate a witness who would testify they saw Oakley and Sweeting stab the victims. The resulting lack of eye witnesses to the murder itself combined with the prosecutors's lack of credibility in the eyes of the jury resulted in the likely murders going free. Although it was a very self serving comment, in many ways Lewis wasn't too far off the mark when he said earlier in the week that prosecutors were so intent on bringing down Lewis as a celebrity that they forgot about the case in front of them.

 

[BlueOnion]

The more I look at this contract for T.O., the more I am scratching my head. The whole situation is the same situation which brought T.O. to the Eagles and appears to be almost the same exact contract.

T.O.'s primary complaint was that Eagles were not guaranteeing him a lot of money, however he turns around and accepts a contract from Dallas with only 5 million guaranteed money and a series of 1-year option years. In the big picture, this is no different than what the Eagles gave him, a series of 1-year contracts in which T.O. would get paid about 10 million a year.

I have no doubt T.O. will not be a Cowboy in 2007.

 

[fatness]

Things done by other people and brought up to deflect attention from what Terrell Owens does:

Stabbing someone
Driving Drunk
Lieing to the police
Raming you vehicle into another vehicle
Not speaking your mind
Domestic viloence
Drug Abuse
Altercation with a traffic officer
Loaded weapons in cars

 

[Chaos Commish]

he's already won them over.

Not all of them! I spent a good deal of time last night interviewing new teams for my loyalty.

So Michael Irvin being a cokehead never effected your love for the Boys?Or Kevin Williams for being arressted on domestic abuse?

Now a loudmouthed brat who's never been in trouble with the law is driving you away?

Shame! Shame I say!

I'm struggling with this. I have written well over a thousand words on the topic and I may or may not post it when I reach my own conclusion, for whatever my own conclusion is worth. The more I read here, the more I add to my own opinion. But, Irivin, and many others were our problems. They were family, not the enemy. They had problems in their personal lives off the field. None of them consciously or subconscioulsy divided locker rooms, alienated key players, deliberately annoyed coaching staffs, etc.

While almost obsessively following the draft this year, I've noticed a very positive trend in the league. Team after team after team is valuing character much higher than in the past. I wish Dallas would have joined the majority of the league and left TO for someone else. It's a personal preference borne by the transgressions of the past.

Perhaps it is shameful I stayed behind the organization so long.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

Parcells is just the thing TO needs not only in football, but in life.

when TO was coming up in SF, there was a championship attitude instilled within the organization and plenty of super bowl veterans to keep him focused and in check.

after all those guys had gone TO had become the face of the niners. once they began losing that's when thing really got ugly. Garcia was quoted as calling him a cancer.

Same thing in Philly. Reid came from a super bowl pedigree and the Eagles had made the NFC championship game 3 years running, but there wasn't that same championship instilled attitude with the Eagles and super bowl caliber players as with SF. TO was on the same level as anybody on the team.

Dallas has always been "America's team". They're history and coach possess that championship attitude, sort of like the Yankees, that a guy like TO needs to keep his head straight.

Moreover, Parcells has made a living out of making team players out of "head cases" (OJ Anderson, Lawrence Taylor, Keyshawn Johnson, Brian Cox).

I think TO will be just fine in Dallas. I wish him well. No doubt he hits the star after his first TD in Dallas.

This may be the lamest post I've read in the last year. The Cowboys have been nowhere near a Super Bowl in years. Parcells was never even part of the Cowboy glory days. The situation is probably worse than it was in Philly. So now TO will join in the spirit of "America's Team", the same one he insulted on the star not long ago??? The only thing going for TO in Dallas is that Parcells is such a master of dealing with his players.

 

[dickey moe]

By winning games.

 

[bentley]

By winning games.