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MFL Down! (1 Viewer)

ok, I don't think anyone major got done, but the timers definitely counted down. Thank god it was only 12 or so hours and not more than that.

 
Great job MFL! From the outage time it seems like their provider had a major issue, but it only took the night to get it all back online and league accessible! All the data is still there for my league and others that have posted, which at the end of the day, is the biggest concern. With probable staffing issues due to the long weekend, it's great they got this all back online so quickly.

Those which had timers issues just need their commissioners to undo the last pick and start over with that pick. Simple stuff, unless you have a corrupt commissioner...

Kudos again to MFL on no data loss and just an over night outage instead of the whole memorial day weekend!

 
Ok so on the basis that you vote with your feet every time there is a down period, how long until you have no place to play FF online?

 
KellysHeroes said:
12 hr downtime; that's a resume producing event for someone
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I think you grossly underestimate how little hosting providers actually care. This was a post-mortem producing event for someone, and someone gets to write an appeasement plan for customers that they'll be real worried about for a couple weeks. Unless this was caused by some employee backing a forklift into a transformer or something, that they might get fired for.

scothawk said:
Ok so on the basis that you vote with your feet every time there is a down period, how long until you have no place to play FF online?
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Already. They've all been down. God help the guy that spills a beer on the draft board at his offline draft

 
WisWolvrns said:
Great job MFL! From the outage time it seems like their provider had a major issue, but it only took the night to get it all back online and league accessible! All the data is still there for my league and others that have posted, which at the end of the day, is the biggest concern. With probable staffing issues due to the long weekend, it's great they got this all back online so quickly.

Those which had timers issues just need their commissioners to undo the last pick and start over with that pick. Simple stuff, unless you have a corrupt commissioner...

Kudos again to MFL on no data loss and just an over night outage instead of the whole memorial day weekend!
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Truth. Been using MFL since 2001 and have never had an "Armegeddon" situation that their team failed to respond to in a timely manner. Best in the business, hands down, for the price and features (and added features every year). Thank you MFL for staying above the rest of the pretenders.

 
CokeZero said:
WisWolvrns said:
Great job MFL! From the outage time it seems like their provider had a major issue, but it only took the night to get it all back online and league accessible! All the data is still there for my league and others that have posted, which at the end of the day, is the biggest concern. With probable staffing issues due to the long weekend, it's great they got this all back online so quickly.

Those which had timers issues just need their commissioners to undo the last pick and start over with that pick. Simple stuff, unless you have a corrupt commissioner...

Kudos again to MFL on no data loss and just an over night outage instead of the whole memorial day weekend!
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Truth. Been using MFL since 2001 and have never had an "Armegeddon" situation that their team failed to respond to in a timely manner. Best in the business, hands down, for the price and features (and added features every year). Thank you MFL for staying above the rest of the pretenders.
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I know who you two work for.

 
Khy said:
KellysHeroes said:
Khy said:
KellysHeroes said:
Cjw_55106 said:
Phenix said:
Should never happen in todays world of technology. This stuff is preventable in soooo many ways.
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How is MFL supposed to prevent their provider from going down?
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google doesn't go down, yahoo doesn't go down, cnn doesn't go down... MFL goes down about 4 times a yr. So yeah, they should stop using their buddies computer as a service provider and get a real one.
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Umm, sure they do. Google went down a few months back for about 30 minutes and it literally almost shut down the internet. Bandwidth usage was cut by like 70% worldwide while they were down. Also, Google is a $300 billion dollar company. Facebook goes down at least 3-4 times a year. And again, billion dollar company.I gather you don't seem to understand how servers and network providers work. Being that you said they should backup the servers and routers. Which makes literally no sense.

Relax, this likely wasn't preventable at all. MFL really doesn't make enough money to have a bunch of off-site redundancy. Their provider went down and is in the process of fixing it, there's not much we nor mfl can do about it.
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yes i do, which why its un-acceptable
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You do what? Understand what's going on behind the scenes at MFL? No, sorry don't believe that. If you had even the slightest clue you'd not have stated:"They should have backed up the servers and routers"

That literally doesn't make any sense in this situation. It sounds like something my father would say, sounds like you knew a couple of IT keywords and just used two of them.
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to keep my data safe I back up my wifi, monitor, and dongle.
 
bagger said:
Khy said:
KellysHeroes said:
Khy said:
KellysHeroes said:
Cjw_55106 said:
Phenix said:
Should never happen in todays world of technology. This stuff is preventable in soooo many ways.
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How is MFL supposed to prevent their provider from going down?
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google doesn't go down, yahoo doesn't go down, cnn doesn't go down... MFL goes down about 4 times a yr. So yeah, they should stop using their buddies computer as a service provider and get a real one.
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Umm, sure they do. Google went down a few months back for about 30 minutes and it literally almost shut down the internet. Bandwidth usage was cut by like 70% worldwide while they were down. Also, Google is a $300 billion dollar company. Facebook goes down at least 3-4 times a year. And again, billion dollar company.I gather you don't seem to understand how servers and network providers work. Being that you said they should backup the servers and routers. Which makes literally no sense.

Relax, this likely wasn't preventable at all. MFL really doesn't make enough money to have a bunch of off-site redundancy. Their provider went down and is in the process of fixing it, there's not much we nor mfl can do about it.
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yes i do, which why its un-acceptable
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You do what? Understand what's going on behind the scenes at MFL? No, sorry don't believe that. If you had even the slightest clue you'd not have stated:"They should have backed up the servers and routers"

That literally doesn't make any sense in this situation. It sounds like something my father would say, sounds like you knew a couple of IT keywords and just used two of them.
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to keep my data safe I back up my wifi, monitor, and dongle.
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Doesn't that hurt, when your dongle is backed up?

 
I hadn't read this thread since the morning MFL went back up, but I just had to see why it keeps being bumped and remains on page 1. Glad I did.

And Bagger, keep that dongle away from people.

 
I had to come in this thread and see why people are still bumping it even though it is no longer needed

Let me get this straight.... MFL goes down and people think a guy who is upset about a site he pays for going down is weird/crazy/childish by coming into a thread and acting like children and insulting him for being upset?

People wonder why their are so many cat fights here, you have people starting stupid arguments like this because they don't like someones handle or because all they are are trolls. There is some immaturity and childish acts going on in here and its not by the guy who started the thread but by the ones attacking him.

Funny a money grabbing site goes down and the people get upset with the person upset then go on to comment about how great MFL is while this guy gets slammed.

 
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Funny and childish is you not realizing that Kelly was making statements about technology that he clearly does not know what he was talking about. But sure implied how simple the solution for MFL should have been. This has become a pet peeve of mine in modern society - "everyone is an expert about everyone else's job/area of expertise....just ask them." Of course if you actually work in the field, you realize how stupid most of the sideline comments really are in relation to what actual happens.

As to the childish brilliance by the OP talking about something he has no clue about I could list several. The simplest is you cannot inform the subscribers to your internet site about the site being down if the website's internet provider is down, unless you expect them to text/phone call everyone with this information - MFL had no access to the internet until their carrier fixed their problem. I won't get into the backing up routers' and other absurd technology comments.

I had a dynasty rookie draft going on that got stopped. It has created some hardship due to an owner leaving on a vacation without internet access - original time frame would have completed the rookie draft prior to his leaving. I think most people around computers realize computers break down and don't ##### about it. If the shut down lasted 2-3 days, I would agree the delay would be longer than expected and deserve some criticism. But #### happens, especially with technology - suck it up a little.

 
I asked a client to take a screen grab and send it to me and they took a picture with their cell phone.

 
Hi everyone! I'm new to this site but have been playing fantasy football on espn for awhile. My question is why does everyone on this site seem to prefer MFL to other sites? Don't they charge a fee? Thanks!

 
freshhh said:
Hi everyone! I'm new to this site but have been playing fantasy football on espn for awhile. My question is why does everyone on this site seem to prefer MFL to other sites? Don't they charge a fee? Thanks!
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Most posters on this site in May are dynasty fantasy football players, and the only free service that is even remotely useful for dynasty is Flea Flicker....and most prefer to pay for MFL, in my experience.

It's the best game in town...but really, it's one of the only games in town.

 
They might blame it on their provider but why does a provider go down for over 12 hours without backups. The provider is probably not one of the big companies because they are half the cost. MFL customer service is not very good like it use to be. Their format is the same as 5 years ago. I found there address online and it was a house when I googled it. 3077 Sunnyside Street
Stoughton, Wisconsin 53589 That could be a huge problem using residential and not business providers and them not backing their data up themselves. I got the address from their website.

 
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freshhh said:
Hi everyone! I'm new to this site but have been playing fantasy football on espn for awhile. My question is why does everyone on this site seem to prefer MFL to other sites? Don't they charge a fee? Thanks!
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We used to play on other sites but they all inconvenienced us with some minimal downtime so MFL was our last hurrah.

It looks like pencil and paper is the way to go. Don't forget to back up your email in case gmail goes down though.

 
FreeBaGeL said:
freshhh said:
Hi everyone! I'm new to this site but have been playing fantasy football on espn for awhile. My question is why does everyone on this site seem to prefer MFL to other sites? Don't they charge a fee? Thanks!
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We used to play on other sites but they all inconvenienced us with some minimal downtime so MFL was our last hurrah.

It looks like pencil and paper is the way to go. Don't forget to back up your email in case gmail goes down though.
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I tried pencil and paper, broke a lead and didn't have a sharpener handy. Got the weekly results out 12 hours late and all the league mates quit, opting to find a commish who had a sharpener and 2 backup pencils. Lesson learned.

 
Come on guys....you are all better than this....or at least can be, especially towards new members. Shame on you Hammond. You are now staff and should refrain from piling on.

 
Ruffrodys05 said:
Come on guys....you are all better than this....or at least can be, especially towards new members. Shame on you Hammond. You are now staff and should refrain from piling on.
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That didn't come off as piling on a new guy to me. Seemed like he was making fun of the people complaining about MFL going down for 12 hours who have no actual clue how server infrastructures work and just like to complain and say "I thought this was 2014! This stuff shouldn't be happening". MFL could have been hosted directly from Google headquarters and still went down. As I said earlier in this thread, full off-site emergency backups cost a ton of money. I know we pay MFL and all, but not likely enough for that kind of infrastructure backbone.I'm sure they have everything backed up in multiple off site locations. But there's a difference between hard copy backups and full off-site backups with emergency dns switching and such.

 
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Khy said:
Ruffrodys05 said:
Come on guys....you are all better than this....or at least can be, especially towards new members. Shame on you Hammond. You are now staff and should refrain from piling on.
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That didn't come off as piling on a new guy to me. Seemed like he was making fun of the people complaining about MFL going down for 12 hours who have no actual clue how server infrastructures work and just like to complain and say "I thought this was 2014! This stuff shouldn't be happening". MFL could have been hosted directly from Google headquarters and still went down. As I said earlier in this thread, full off-site emergency backups cost a ton of money. I know we pay MFL and all, but not likely enough for that kind of infrastructure backbone.I'm sure they have everything backed up in multiple off site locations. But there's a difference between hard copy backups and full off-site backups with emergency dns switching and such.
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:goodposting:

 
Khy said:
Ruffrodys05 said:
Come on guys....you are all better than this....or at least can be, especially towards new members. Shame on you Hammond. You are now staff and should refrain from piling on.
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That didn't come off as piling on a new guy to me. Seemed like he was making fun of the people complaining about MFL going down for 12 hours who have no actual clue how server infrastructures work and just like to complain and say "I thought this was 2014! This stuff shouldn't be happening". MFL could have been hosted directly from Google headquarters and still went down. As I said earlier in this thread, full off-site emergency backups cost a ton of money. I know we pay MFL and all, but not likely enough for that kind of infrastructure backbone.I'm sure they have everything backed up in multiple off site locations. But there's a difference between hard copy backups and full off-site backups with emergency dns switching and such.
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Says someone who also was piling on. Ironic.

 
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